video attatched. need help,

[johnnys11]

Attached is a video of my 04 gs500 not starting in first gear. it was running fine last week until I had to fix my wheel and didn't ride it for a week.
I did ride it yesterday and the exhaust was popping with high throttle while riding. also when in neutral and reved above 6rpms it popped loud as well.
it is my first bike and did run good before. Maybe the tow guy tinkered with something? Need help I want to ride!

http://youtu.be/B-0hdftvIOQ

[BockinBboy]

Um, why start it in gear?  Does it do the same in neutral?

- Bboy

[johnnys11]

should have said that turns off when I put into gear from neutral, when the kickstand is up!

[BockinBboy]

Hmm, there is the clutch safety switch - check that for a solid connection.  If the handlebars were secured in transport, it may have messed with that connection... Although I'm not sure it would even 'try' to start if this were disconnected - I'd check that out anyway.

As of now with that description, it seems the two issues may be unrelated - the starting issue, and the popping issue.  Popping is caused from leanness, but I'm kind of lacking steam for reasons why it would happen suddenly unless you have replaced an air filter or did some other work recently.

- Bboy

[johnnys11]

Ok yeah it was supported from the handle bars.

[radodrill]

should have said that turns off when I put into gear from neutral, when the kickstand is up!

Side stand interlock switch might be acting up.

[johnnys11]

when the bike is on center stand it will start and run in gear but once I apply brake and the rear wheel stops spinning the bike shuts off, even with the clutch held in.

[johnnys11]

here is better video
http://youtu.be/OwkSxkSDFwU

[Blueknyt]

it honestly seems that your clutch is incorrectly adjusted. it stalls cuz its still engaged when you put it into gear. even with the clutch lever pulled. If your clutch cable adjustments are topped out, you might have to adjust the clutch actuator rod .  If i remember there is a screw and nut down on the left hand side of the engine, just below where the clutch cable goes in to the front sprocket cover, its behind a plate held on with 2 screws.  i believe you need a box end wrench and a flat tip screw driver.  Funny, my factory manual doesnt have adjustment steps/spec and cant find my hayne's at the moment.

backoff your clutch lever adjustment and lower cable end adjustment(where it enters the cover) to loose as it can get. after removing the plate, using a box end wrench and flat tip screw driver, break loose the locknut enough that you can turn the screw. You want to turn the screw clockwise (like tightening a bolt) little at a time say by 1/4-1/2 turns while holding the nut. till you see some slack being taken up in the cable. if you manage to adjust to the point that the end of the screw is almost flush with the nut, tighten the nut and lock it. then adjust the lower cable end out abit (where the cable enters the cover) enough that you only need a few twists at the clutch lever adjuster for desired amount of free play.   There may be a step by step in the haynes, but i cant verify that at the moment, so someone else chime in

[johnnys11]

I hope all I have to do is adjust it. I have never did this on a bike but it doesn't seem to hard. I will mess around with it today but I am looking for a how to video for the gs500. any have one?

[Atesz792]

I think there is one in the video tutorial thread.

[radodrill]

I see your idle adjust is set very low (1K rpm or less); try adjusting this up to 1500-2000.

Also, it sounds like your battery is weak as it doesn't crank very hard even after putting it back into neutral.

[rexpepper651]

here is the service manual.

https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=FB87BD8396FBFBF4!2939&cid=fb87bd8396fbfbf4&app=WordPdf&wdo=2

i had to adjust mine. it actually was slipping under heavy throttle and then i adjusted it too tight and had the same problem as you. i cleaned my clutch plats in kerosene. adjusted the clutch lever for 4mm of play as specified in the manual and turned the 1/4-1/2 turns in. fixed the issue.

[johnnys11]

I must have done it wrong because don't the bike wont even try and start and I get it out of neutral.

[johnnys11]

never mind to that last post I just adjusted it to tightly

[gsJack]

If you don't get the pushrod free play set right your clutch won't be right.  Get it set up right first with a 3 point clutch adjustment, real simple and straight forward right out of the shop manual:

[johnnys11]

Yeah I got the bike started, somehow my battery died. I guess leaving the key in the ignition on the off position kills the battery but anyways this is becoming a headace and I just want to ride.
I think I messed the pushrod because  I had the bike on and putting it gears and nothing was happening, like it was neutral.

[Blueknyt]

thanks jack, i cant find my haynes but that is what i was trying to discribe basicly.

[johnnys11]

ok well after all that I just had to properly adjust. not sure if I adjusted it 100 percent correctly but it seems ok.
Now I am having battery issues. the previous owner said the battery was new but its now dead.
I can jump start it and bump start and ride around but once I turn it off it will not turn back on.
I did leave the key in the ignition but in the off position, will that kill the battery?
what I think it maybe is I was bleeding the rear brake and some brake fluid may have spilled back there.
its really weird I can have the bike on and running but then once it turns off it will not start.

[rexpepper651]

if you dont already get yourself a multi-meter. if the bike can be started and road for a long period of time and yet the battery is still dead. could be the bike isnt charging the battery and well the battery could be garbage. here is a way to check if your bike is charging or not. btw if you have like a northern tool or a walmart or harbor freight. multi-meters can be picked up for under 15 dollars.


http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=38480.0