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Started by Krav, October 09, 2014, 01:13:42 AM

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Krav

Hi!

When i was picking up some stuff for my motorbike, a dude with a 2003 Gs500 told me that Gs500 has 2 types of engines. an old and a new one.
is this true? if so, whats the difference?

peace!
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The Buddha

Quote from: Krav on October 09, 2014, 01:13:42 AM
Hi!

When i was picking up some stuff for my motorbike, a dude with a 2003 Gs500 told me that Gs500 has 2 types of engines. an old and a new one.
is this true? if so, whats the difference?

peace!

Old = 89-00. New = 01 and later. The biggest difference is the oil cooler. Maybe 04 and later. 01-02 didn't have oil cooler did it guys ? 01-02 is odd ball, has many one off's, carbs and other stuff. Good thing is ... they all swap over with minor mods.
Cool.
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The_Paragon

Id say theres more like 1 type of engine.. with probably about 3 major variations.. (US market)

89-00, The Original, painted black
01-03, Addition of the Pair system + different carbs + silver paint.
04+, Addition of the oil Cooler
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gsJack

Black engine was thru 96, silver from 97 on.  I had a 97 with silver engine.  Another 96-97 change was a new front caliper design which remains 97 thru 09.

01-02 got 3 circuit carbs w/o Pair, new rear body work, and steeper 25* rake replaced 25.5* on 89-00 models.  Parts fiches are same for 89-96 and same for 97-00.

Biggest change was on 04-09 fully faired F models which retained new rear body work from 01-02 but got the 3 circuit carbs with Pair, throttle position sensor, single pick-up signal generator replaced the dual ones on 89-02, electric tach replaced the mechanical driven ones on 89-02 models, and 04-09 F models got the oil cooler.

No 03 models were sold in US and only 04-09 F models were sold here after that.   No new GS here after 09 model.

The oil cooler, single coil signal generator, and electronic tach are significant when changing engines between 89-02 models and 04-09 models. 
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Krav

"The wise man speaks because he has something to say, the fool because he has to say something" - Aristotle

"The leg of a baby is stronger than the balls of Muhammad Ali" - Imi Lichtenfeld

The_Paragon

Quote from: gsJack on October 09, 2014, 03:30:54 PM
Black engine was thru 96, silver from 97 on.  I had a 97 with silver engine. 
The oil cooler, single coil signal generator, and electronic tach are significant when changing engines between 89-02 models and 04-09 models.

^I was wrong

Quote from: gsJack on October 09, 2014, 03:30:54 PM
No 03 models were sold in US and only 04-09 F models were sold here after that.   No new GS here after 09 model. 

^Did not know that either!
NEVER EVER EVER use an aftermarket valve shim!!
'81 Honda CB 650
'86 Yamaha FZ600
'09 Yamaha FZ6
'09 Yamaha FZ6R (Owned by my Better Half)
'06 Zuki GS500f- Sold

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