Throttle issue, 90+% of throttle loses power

[PantheraLeo]

Damn, MeeLee.  You're on quite a few threads bitching about your GS....which you admit is partially screwed by California emission requirements.  Why don't you sell it and either:

A) get a standard GS.
B) get you another bike.  It looks like this one just doesn't suit you, bro.

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[gsJack]

Just noticed in another thread you have a 35T rear sprocket?  That's probably your problem here, it won't pull top speed in 6th gear.  Try stock 16/39T.

[Janx101]

I have a k&n drop in filter in my bike, with restrictor ring being used, I got it cheap at a bike shop clearance sale. ..

But that's beside the point. .. I was questioning your reasoning that BECAUSE the stock filter gets 'sucked' into the airbox faster than your aftermarket one.. that makes it too restrictive! ? ...

Certainly a aftermarket filter may/will have a different and higher flowrate... but that does not automatically mean the stock is too restrictive. .. only that the flowrates are different! ...

Higher air flow. .  On its own. . Does not mean better performance in the gs500. . You may have to combine it with jets/exhaust/engine work. .. to gain a few up at best. .

You don't like the stock bars? Change them! Go for it... get yourself comfortable on the bike. ... then book yourself in for advanced rider training. .. maybe some trackback. .. rider skill will gain you more 'performance' than mods ever will on this bike.

Im gonna make a prediction, could be wrong. .  Your bike isn't the cool factor fireball you were expecting..  sometime soon there will be a bobber/cafe/scrambler/streetfighter project thread on your bike. .. that's awesome and everyone has the right to do what they want..  but it won't make the bike better, just different!

Around this board you will get less static from people if you ask how something can be done rather than complain how the bike is 'wrong' .. everyone here loves the gs500.  And mostly accepts that it is what it is..  accept the bike and mod away man!

[MeeLee]

Just noticed in another thread you have a 35T rear sprocket?  That's probably your problem here, it won't pull top speed in 6th gear.  Try stock 16/39T.

That's not the problem. I want it that way. if it wasn't for the 106 link chain, which barely fit the 16/35, i would have put in 17/35. My 5th gear is a stock's 6th gear, so i can go just as fast as with a stock gearing. 16/35 allows me to run minimum rpm 3k rpm at about 39mph indicated.

[NYNJ8]

That's not the problem. I want it that way. if it wasn't for the 106 link chain, which barely fit the 16/35, i would have put in 17/35. My 5th gear is a stock's 6th gear, so i can go just as fast as with a stock gearing. 16/35 allows me to run minimum rpm 3k rpm at about 39mph indicated.

You sir are the problem.  You modified your bikes gearing so that you can run it at 3k rpm.  Yet you say in another thread the bike is pitiful under 3k rpm.  No wonder you are not happy with your bike.  And btw when people talk about a bike's low rpm performance I don't think they are talking about that low.  Not sure I've ridden a bike that was torquey below 3k.  Unless you are talking about 1st gear on a trail bike.

[MeeLee]

That's not the problem. I want it that way. if it wasn't for the 106 link chain, which barely fit the 16/35, i would have put in 17/35. My 5th gear is a stock's 6th gear, so i can go just as fast as with a stock gearing. 16/35 allows me to run minimum rpm 3k rpm at about 39mph indicated.

You sir are the problem.  You modified your bikes gearing so that you can run it at 3k rpm.  Yet you say in another thread the bike is pitiful under 3k rpm.  No wonder you are not happy with your bike.  And btw when people talk about a bike's low rpm performance I don't think they are talking about that low.  Not sure I've ridden a bike that was torquey below 3k.  Unless you are talking about 1st gear on a trail bike.

Sigh...
It is people like you 'sir' that tire me out.
2.8k rpm lugging is not 3k rpm. The bike runs fine at 3k rpm.
And yes, the Rebel 250 is torquey at 2.5-3k RPM.
Any bopper is torquey.
Any Vtwin is torquey.
All are torquey enough to just maintain speed in final gear at those RPMs.

If you can't see that there's something fundamentally wrong with the GS, for not doing what ALL other bikes can, then I'm sorry.
No hope for you, nor anyone else who thinks that way.
In fact, the GS500 is THE ONLY bike I know, that can't keep a steady speed at 2.5k RPM final gear!

I'm not asking for massive acceleration in those rev ranges.That's why 8k RPM is there!
But it's common to rev an engine as low as possible, without lugging; in all of automotive, and motorcycle industry (specially for a bike that's labeled as a 'commuter').
It's not a racing bike.

[NYNJ8]

Any bopper is torquey.
Any Vtwin is torquey.
All are torquey enough to just maintain speed in final gear at those RPMs.

If you can't see that there's something fundamentally wrong with the GS, for not doing what ALL other bikes can, then I'm sorry.
No hope for you, nor anyone else who thinks that way.
In fact, the GS500 is THE ONLY bike I know, that can't keep a steady speed at 2.5k RPM final gear!

I'm not asking for massive acceleration in those rev ranges.That's why 8k RPM is there!
But it's common to rev an engine as low as possible, without lugging; in all of automotive, and motorcycle industry (specially for a bike that's labeled as a 'commuter').
It's not a racing bike.
[/quote]

See here's the problem.  You speak in such absolutes when its clear you have no idea wtf you are talking about.  What Vtwins have you owned?  For that matter, why don't you thrill all of us with the details of your extensive motorcycle experience?  Since you know so damn much about EVERY vtwin, EVERY bobber, and "all of automotive and motorcycle industry."

[MeeLee]

I very well may have owned more motorcycles than you brother. Lost count but should be close to 15 bikes...
if you feel inferior because I'm just saying some common sense things, don't take it out on me. A vt750 is one of the few vtwins i had. Hated the crap out of the bike, but i owned it before.
and, I'm not obliged to give you my motorcycle setup at all.. I'm not going to waste my time on someone i feel does not respect me enough.

But let me repeat it loud and clear, so some sense can be banged in your head:
I haven't had ANY motorcycle, and that includes the chinese Hyosung, that lugged, even below 2k rpm, so MO**FU**ING YES!!! The GS500 engine is really, really,  really  lousy there!
freaking YES!, I haven't even owned, seen, sat on, or raced ANY motorcycle with such a lousy low rpm lugging motorcycle, so that makes it over 50 bikes (including dirt and 2 stroke).
tell me one bike that can't maintain speed at 2.5k rpm other than the gs, and I'll be silent!

now you know... hope it doesn't shock you to death, to finally hear some sense being spoken on the forum here!

I hate it when people are all telling how good something is, when it has some serious issues!
Issues that don't cost a company like Suzuki much to fix.

[Atesz792]

Someone's seriously working their way to be the first person on my (and probably others') ignore list.
Obvious forum troll.
Yeah, two strokes not lugging under 3k, give me a break... Or tell that to my NSR250R, lol.
Some 2 smokers of that era start their gauges at 4k, and I don't blame them.

[MeeLee]

Someone's seriously working their way to be the first person on my (and probably others') ignore list.
Obvious forum troll.
Yeah, two strokes not lugging under 3k, give me a break... Or tell that to my NSR250R, lol.
Some 2 smokers of that era start their gauges at 4k, and I don't blame them.

Bwahaha!
probably because they set the tach for 4 stroke engines?
a 2 stroke engine doesn't need higher rpm than a ptwin.

[Big Rich]

Meelee, what exactly are you getting worked up about? I can't follow many of your posts.

A couple posts ago you said a GS can't maintain speed at 2.5k, and any other bike can. There have been many people telling you where the flawed logic is with this - it is your gear ratio. Any bike can maintain speed at that rpm range, it just depends what speed you're looking for. The stock gear ratio (16/39) is 2.4375. With your new sprocket setup (16/35) your ratio dropped way down to 2.1875, so you are losing a lot of "leverage" the engine is creating. For highway speed cruising (which is what I'm guessing you're looking for) you would essentially need an enclosed motorcycle for such a short gear ratio to obtain what you are after. Or maybe I'm just lost in the conversation ....

V-twins create much more torque than the GS, so it's like comparing apples to oranges. Want to share which parallel twin you are comparing the GS to? Preferably one for the same price, using technology from the same era?

[Atesz792]

Bwahaha!
probably because they set the tach for 4 stroke engines?
a 2 stroke engine doesn't need higher rpm than a ptwin.

Just... bow down, man, bow down in silence.

[codajastal]

See here's the problem.  You speak in such absolutes when its clear you have no idea wtf you are talking about.  What Vtwins have you owned?  For that matter, why don't you thrill all of us with the details of your extensive motorcycle experience?  Since you know so damn much about EVERY vtwin, EVERY bobber, and "all of automotive and motorcycle industry."

He cant tell you that because he is not who he says he is, Think people, you are all being conned buy a mask.
Where are the photos of the bike?
Where is the proof that you know what you say you know,
I dont post much here anymore but I read an awful lot
MeeLee, I am calling you out, You are a fraudster.
Before you try turning this around and ask me to prove my claims maybe you should start by showing proof of your bike for a start and go from there?
This is all I have to say about the matter

My0.02c

[floatingLomas]

I'm just gonna leave this here.

I feel like this is going to be a fruitful week for the Tard Farm.