serious issues - probably the magnets on the stator - probably the starter!?

[lin]

dear GS-experts,


on a ride from Germany to France i suddenly noticed that the enginge stopped.  in  the mid of the ride - on a french route nationale - at the speed of 50 miles.

afterward i had no change to start the engine again with the e-starter.

now my issues: on my way to paris on last sunday - with the Suzuki GS 500 i had issues
- the engine stopped suddenly and after that  the starter did not work again.

The battery works propperly - but only for the lights and the horn. Starting is not possible

I have recogniced that every time when i stop the engine -  a ugly sound is  hearable - it sounds not so good.

btw:  here the thread on the german forum for GS 500 :  http://forum.gs-500.de/showthread.php?p=603119#post603119

here the clip of the engine - you can hear the sound:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/4ue6yjj6d0lc52l/VID_20190731_110846.mp4/file
https://www.mediafire.com/file/4ue6yjj6d0lc52l/VID_20190731_110846.mp4/file
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/6bjkb7w4k4f21/
http://www.mediafire.com/file/4ue6yjj6d0lc52l/VID_20190731_110846.mp4/file


how do you think that this sound - what goes wrong here.

by the way well i would love to get into contact with some french moto experts here in Paris. 

GS-500 experts - here in the region in Paris.   I stay in Paris 8 Arrondisment


love to hear from you

regards lin

[The Buddha]

I cant play the sound or video. But starter can be taken out and tested. If it spins well, iys worth moving on to the next.
A bad starter clutch will either let the starter spin without engaging the engine or make a loud clunk when you press the starter and start, or not start. There is the very very rare case of where the starter clutch was locked, allowing the engine to start with the starter and then running the starter with the engine with its near 300 to 1 rpm ratio. Yea, starter fell apart in short order.
If you're getting a bad engine noise after the engine starts, you're looking at bad bearings either in the counterbalance or in the crank. But you're not starting - so I'm thinking its the starter. Try thatas your first option, in fact take off the left cover and take the idler gears out and now hit the start button, if starter spins, you're likely looking at a bad starter clutch.

Good luck with all of the above.

Cool.
Buddha.

[lin]

hello dear all

finally got back home. But the issues are still ongoing. I hope that i have time to look after the engine.

the motor does not start

see the images  and see the vids - especially if i turn of the engine _ there is a very very intersting sound..


hope someone of you has heared this before..


https://photos.app.goo.gl/soaVvEZvsuSYp5UV8
https://photos.app.goo.gl/fcNLYCgFtgUtFr1i9
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipNzJ_bq8AcfZtCCsAbZyWWXneccgL4C00czbm_xlIGKQqbgDIFcZstFC-wjATsuhA?key=NFlUSmctYWE1aXVoNjJNOGc5UUtzQUdNdGlOUlV3



loook forward to hear from you

greetings

[herennow]

What happens when you start, does the engine spin? Starter turns?

Is the rotor tight on the crankshaft? Sounds like it carries on spinning when the bike stops. Would also explain crank not turning when starter does.

[Bluesmudge]

You say the motor does not start but in one video the bike is running.

You need to take that cover off and investigate. You will have to drain the oil.
I think either the start clutch bolts are loose or the generator is loose. Something is spinning when it isn't supposed to.