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Started by j0nes, July 15, 2018, 09:40:55 AM

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j0nes

Hello. I just bought GS 500 -95. I know that it doenst have much power but it goes only like a 130 km/h max speed.
It is restricted to 25kw but i checked the carburetor.
Jets are 122,5 and 125. Air filter is pipercross.

It feels like it doenst have power on fifth and sixth gear.

This shouldnt be blocked?



This hole should be blocked?

J_Walker

never seen them with holes in that spot? Special Europe edition?
-Walker

karlhoffman_76

#2
I can confirm these holes exist, at least in the Aussie edition.

EDIT: 2009 Aussie edition (K9)

karlhoffman_76


sledge

At the risk of sounding condescending you have a restricted bike. You are about 15kw down from a stock bike. Of course it's going to feel as if it lacks power  :dunno_black:

I don't know about your part of the world but derestricting them and using them without the correct licence is illegal.


j0nes

#5
Yes this is "europe edition" bike.
I havent done anything to those holes. It was like that from previous owner.

I'll try to unblock that hole wich goes upwards.

And i have a license to drive it with 34kw.

Joolstacho

Some laws were MADE to be broken. Go for it!
Beam me up Scottie....

Joolstacho

#7
 :icon_mrgreen:
Beam me up Scottie....

Meukowi

Quote from: j0nes on July 16, 2018, 02:02:52 AM
Yes this is "europe edition" bike.
I havent done anything to those holes. It was like that from previous owner.

I'll try to unblock that hole wich goes upwards.

And i have a license to drive it with 34kw.
didnt ask previous owner how its restricted?

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sledge

It will be a GS500EU, restricted in the factory and sold as a low powered version for learners in some European countries.

They can be converted to full power versions but it involves more than just work to the slides. I know what is involved but won't be telling you because I don't quite understand why you bought it knowing it was restricted and I don't condone what could be an illegal act on the basis yours will be probably registered and insured as a restricted model.

If you want a full fat version just go out and buy one  :dunno_black:

j0nes

Yes i think it is GS500E and it is restricted 2010 from 34kW to 25kW. I was just curious does this really go only like 130 km/h if it is 25 kW or is there some problem in the carburetors because it just doesnt have power on sixth gear. How fast it should go if it is that 34 kW full power. Or maybe its just because my previous bike was FZS 600 and it had a little bit more power.

J_Walker

what kind of sick joke is restricting a GS500? Mine unrestricted can't even pull away from most new cars...  :icon_rolleyes:
-Walker

Kookas

#12
Quote from: J_Walker on July 16, 2018, 07:41:50 AM
what kind of sick joke is restricting a GS500? Mine unrestricted can't even pull away from most new cars...  :icon_rolleyes:

I would say 0-60 in 5.5 seconds is still pretty competitive against low-end and mid-end cars (and this is a low-end bike). True that it won't beat anything vaguely sporty, but it at least puts up a fight. I haven't yet beaten a car that was actively trying, but of course, only drivers who know their car is fast would be interested in trying to race a bike, so it's a biased sample - they were all tuned hot-hatches ;)

That said, restricting it is pretty stupid, yeah, it's the equivalent of a modern 300 in real terms. The 0-60 and top speed are pretty much identical to a Ninja 300. Actually, the reason I bought this was exactly because I don't need to restrict it, whereas the more popular SV-650 I would have to.

mr72

If it's restricted then it might have a max speed of ~80mph (which is about 130 km/h if my math is good). IDK because on my unrestricted bike I have never had any need to go that fast. The bike is not really stable at 75mph due to wind so I really have no desire to see anything north of that.

Goof with the carbs at your own peril. If you don't know what those holes are for, I strongly suggest you don't try to change them. Carb tuning on these bikes is difficult enough when you know what you are doing and everything is intact. Intentionally screw something up before you know what effect it is going to have and you are in for a world of hurt.


sledge

Stock FZs 600 Fazer = 95hp
Stock GS500 = 51hp
Restricted GS500 = 33hp...(and inferior to the Fazer)


Can't say I am surprised to hear you say you feel there is something 'missing'  :D

So what happened to the Fazer??



j0nes

Quote from: sledge on July 16, 2018, 01:09:35 PM
Stock FZs 600 Fazer = 95hp
Stock GS500 = 51hp
Restricted GS500 = 33hp...(and inferior to the Fazer)


Can't say I am surprised to hear you say you feel there is something 'missing'  :D

So what happened to the Fazer??

I sold it because im going to buy newer and more powerful bike next summer. I just had to buy a cheap bike to ride a couple of months. And it was GS 500 :D.

Well im going to teardown the bike next weekend. Clean carburetors with ultrasonic cleaner, take cylinder head cover off because it leaks some oil and check valve clearances. Change oil filter and change another oil pan because oilplug threads are completely destroyed.

Kookas

#16
Quote from: j0nes on July 16, 2018, 08:06:04 PMchange another oil pan because oilplug threads are completely destroyed.

If I'm not mistaken that's going to involve a full engine removal from the frame; unless you're happy with that, you might want to look at just retapping what's already there.

j0nes

Quote from: Kookas on July 17, 2018, 01:41:54 PM
Quote from: j0nes on July 16, 2018, 08:06:04 PMchange another oil pan because oilplug threads are completely destroyed.

If I'm not mistaken that's going to involve a full engine removal from the frame; unless you're happy with that, you might want to look at just retapping what's already there.

Well i have to check that on the weekend when I get to the bike.But I thought it should come off easily. Just take exhaust off and open all bolts.

ShowBizWolf

You can remove (and replace) the oil pan without removing the engine from the frame. I replaced the oil pan gasket last year on my GS and was amazed that the Clymer book said to remove the engine from the frame and flip it upside down to do the job :icon_eek: :cookoo:
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sledge

I can confirm the above  :thumb:

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