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Oil coming from here...

Started by TheDooman92, July 21, 2019, 06:45:18 PM

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TheDooman92

I see oil coming from this area as well as leaking down to the bottom of the case. Where is it originating? Usually find the oil around the line in the middle of the circle I drew. Thanks kindly guys, I'd love to hear your input.

Warmest regards,
Andy.

Watcher

Holy ginormous picture, Batman!


Oil from behind the cover is usually either the shift-shaft seal or countershaft seal, but the area looks very oily in general.

Step one is degrease everything.
"The point of a journey is not to arrive..."

-Neil Peart

TheDooman92

Sorry for the big picture! Still confused how to shrink them to size. Are the shift shaft seal or countershaft seals expensive/tedious to replace? Could I leave it or is is something that worsens quickly? Could I ride regularly and worry about an issue like this next season or is it something I want to get fixing as soon as possible? Thanks for your responses they are really valuable!

Best wishes,
Andy.

Watcher

#3
All you need to do is put the dimensions you want in the IMG tag before the link to the photo.
For example, instead of {IMG}yourphotohere{/IMG} it would be {IMG=800x600}yourphotohere{/IMG}, but use square brackets instead of curly brackets.
Or, your image hosting site (Photobucket, imageshack, etc) may have an option to do this for you when selecting the link.


I haven't replaced either seal, but I think the shift shaft can be done without splitting the case while the countershaft cannot.  Someone will be along soon with more info.

All leaks worsen with time.  Whether or not you replace it right away will be your own determination of how bad it is.  After while the time and cost of cleaning up and replacing the leaked out oil, and the risks of oil potentially on your shoes and of underoiling your engine, will outweigh the time and cost of the repair job.
Sooner is better than later, but later is better than never.
"The point of a journey is not to arrive..."

-Neil Peart

qcbaker

#4
Quote from: Watcher on July 22, 2019, 08:51:00 AM
All you need to do is put the dimensions you want in the IMG tag before the link to the photo.
For example, instead of {IMG}yourphotohere{/IMG} it would be {IMG=800x600}yourphotohere{/IMG}, but use square brackets instead of curly brackets.
Or, your image hosting site (Photobucket, imageshack, etc) may have an option to do this for you when selecting the link.

The image is not hosted elsewhere and displayed by the IMG tag, it is directly attached to the post. If they did this, the OP would have the image display twice, once at manageable size in the post body, then once again at the bottom of the post. Also, making use of the CODE tags makes stuff like this easier:

I extracted the URL of the photo and resized it:

[img width=800]http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=73055.0;attach=3607;image[/img]


Displays thusly:


Watcher

"The point of a journey is not to arrive..."

-Neil Peart

TheDooman92

Thanks for the info on attaching image guys :). As for the bike, I'm just worried that I'll be riding and a seal could go on me and oil will come spilling out as I'm riding down the hwy. I'm so new to this (motorcycle) world that I don't know what can happen. Thanks for getting back to me.

Best,
Andy.

qcbaker

Quote from: TheDooman92 on July 22, 2019, 06:23:41 PM
I'm just worried that I'll be riding and a seal could go on me and oil will come spilling out as I'm riding down the hwy.

This is pretty unlikely. Stuff like that almost never fails all at once. As Watcher said, leaks will worsen over time. It will be a gradual process. You could wait until next season to tackle the leak properly, but just remember, until you actually fix the leak, you'll need to check your oil frequently and top it off when necessary to make sure you don't underoil the engine.

Unfortunately, like Watcher, I've never replaced either of those seals myself so I'm not really sure how much effort it is to replace them, sorry. :dunno_black:

herennow

pic of my rebuild, I replaced the three seals when crankase was apart but I'm guessing they can be fished out and new ones put in if well lubricated before.

peterc

I have replaced both gear shaft and countershaft seals in place. The gear shaft seal can be removed with a small pick, while the countershaft seal needs a small hole to be drilled (be careful doing this) and a self tapping screw inserted, then use pliers to remove seal. Removing and replacing both seals were completed in less than 30 minutes.

Bluesmudge

Hard to tell from the photo, but to me it looks like its leaking from the generator rotor cover, not the sprocket cover. In that case, you would drain the oil from the bike, remove the cover, remove the gasket, replace the gasket, replace the cover, re-fill with oil.

Check all those screws on the cover for tightness first. A little tightening may fix the leak. Just be careful, those bolts are fragile.

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