There's always someone there to comment on how many people they know who have died in a motorcycle accident, or how dangerous it is, and how crazy I am. What do you say to these people?? I know what I would like to say!
Learn to enjoy it -
You have an exciting life, they don't. They envy you whether they admit it or not.
Tell them how dangerous it is for people to talk crap to motorcycle riders. Inform them of how many people you have seen injured by running their mouth into your fist :)
Haha.. no .. :icon_twisted:
People said I was crazy when I bought my bike...and when I went skydiving and when I drove to Canada for a cheeseburger. And a good chunk of the odd ball things that I do :icon_razz: But you know what? I ask them what they like to do and how they enjoy their life. I ask them, are you making the best out of every moment? Are you going to have something to talk about and remember back to when you are old? That usually makes them think :thumb:
They're the same people who take no responsibility for themselves or their actions on the road. They buy the biggest vehicle they can get their hands on with all the "safety features" they can afford. Then they go screaming down the road with no regard for anyone else with the assumption they'll be OK. Don't even get me started on cell phones and those utterly stupid little "navigation" displays which are so easily turned into a TV.
That's been my experience anyhow.
Yes, it's dangerous. There are plenty of things in life which can maime or kill you. The question is, are you willing to take responsibility for yourself?
YES prople are stupid. I remember when OZZY and ALICE COOPER represented satan and the evil bikers on their MURDERCYCLES were going to kill and rape everyone.
i get that from almost everyone when i tell them i want a bike.
Example: i asked a guy at work what he knew about bikes and if he had one...his answer was "f%$k that, i had a friend kill himself on one, i could never get one after that"
thats an answer that i have heard a lot
Quote from: SuZuki10 on January 22, 2006, 07:48:35 AM
There's always someone there to comment on how many people they know who have died in a motorcycle accident, or how dangerous it is, and how crazy I am. What do you say to these people?? I know what I would like to say!
Amanda: I find that those who make comments like that are used to limiting themselves in life. I think my response would be to look a little nervous and say, " Wow, you know THAT many people who've died on motorcycles? Just how many dangerous, crazy people DO you know?" Then I'd give them one of my most innocent smiles. :icon_mrgreen:
Tell them "More people are killed daily in cars than motorcycles."
When they reply 'Yes, but there are more cars on the street than motorcycles.'
Say "It doesn't make any difference, those people are still dead."
Quote from: gsmetal on January 22, 2006, 01:20:56 PM
Tell them "More people are killed daily in cars than motorcycles."
When they reply 'Yes, but there are more cars on the street than motorcycles.'
Say "It doesn't make any difference, those people are still dead."
NICE! :laugh:
when my father, mother and I went and bought bikes it was kind of a spur of the moment thing...more reasons kind of occured on to why we had to get them right then but whatever....peopel thought we werenuts when we showed up on them they were all liek oh my god where you get those....those thinbgs are dangerous.... you knwo you woudl be safer in a car..... yeah i mifght be safer ina car btu i enjoy the bike...its my life so F@%$ OFF
Did a little bit of poking around the internet and found this on car accidents:
Car Accident Statistics
On an average, there are more than 6 million car accidents on the roads of the US, annually.
More than 3 million people get injured due to car accidents, with more than 2 million of these injuries being permanent.
There are in excess of 40,000 deaths due to car accidents every year. Although this is a very high number by itself, some heart can be taken in the fact that statistics show that car accident fatalities have been witnessing a downward trend in recent years.
The majority of car accident victims are the drivers, then the passengers of the car, followed by pedestrians, and lastly cyclists.
Every 12 minutes, one person dies because of a car accident. Every 14 seconds, a car accident results in an injured victim.
For those in the age group of 1 to 30 years, the leading cause of death is due to being involved in a car accident. People, who are between 15 to 24 years, and those who are above 75 years of age, are the people who are most severely affected by car accidents.
According to the car accident statistics released by the United States Department of Transportation's (USDOT's) National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), there were almost 43,000 deaths in 2002 because of car accidents. The car accident fatalities for the year 2003 stand at 42,643.
In 2002, there were around 6,316,000 car accidents in the US, with these causing about 2.9 million injuries. In 2003, the total number of car accidents was 6,328,000 and the resulting injuries stood at almost 3 million.
More than 25% of all car drivers were involved in car accidents in a five year period.
In more than half of all car accident fatalities, the deceased were found not to be wearing their seat belts at the time of the crash. Even with seat belts being mandatory, a vast majority of people choose to disregard this safety precaution and end up losing their lives because of it.
Many car accidents are caused by people talking to other passengers while driving, and others due to drivers playing with the radio while driving. A large percentage is because of eating or drinking while driving, and 25% of car accidents are caused due to talking on the mobile phone while at the wheel of the car. These car accident statistics are sad enough on their own, the saddest part being that they could have easily been avoided had drivers been paying more attention to driving and less to other activities.
My girlfriend tells me I'm crazy because I ride. She tells me I'm really crazy for liking track days. I just smile and remind her that she likes me for it. :)
Quote from: Phaedrus on January 22, 2006, 09:06:50 AM
People said I was crazy when I bought my bike...and when I went skydiving and when I drove to Canada for a cheeseburger. And a good chunk of the odd ball things that I do :icon_razz: But you know what? I ask them what they like to do and how they enjoy their life. I ask them, are you making the best out of every moment? Are you going to have something to talk about and remember back to when you are old? That usually makes them think :thumb:
Similar. Actually only had the conversation once...a friend of mine said I was nuts and would probably die any minute becuase of some of the things I do. I reminded him that he also never has any stories to tell...
I've gotten the lecture from about 5 of my friends since I got my bike last year. And I never realized it, but Pandy's right. They are the one's who don't "live". They work, go home, work, go home, etc...
There's only been one friend who gave me a "be careful". He's my boss, and he's known me for 4 years now. He knows all the dumb sh*t I've done, and he's the only one who has said that because of who I am. Of course I'm much more careful on my bike. I like doing dangerous things, but I like living to do them.
I do not personally know anyone who has died from a motorcycle crash. I do personally know 5 people that have been killed from automoblie crashes. I bet no one really thinks twice about jumping in their car.
If I die while riding a motorcycle, I will die one happy person.
Quote from: dgyver on January 22, 2006, 08:34:38 PM
I do not personally know anyone who has died from a motorcycle crash. I do personally know 5 people that have been killed from automoblie crashes. I bet no one really thinks twice about jumping in their car.
If I die while riding a motorcycle, I will die one happy person.
Hear Hear!!!
I don't know anyone who died on a bike OR in a car. I guess that proves how much I DON'T have a life.
i put it like this . most motorcycle accidents are cars hitting bikes .. so whos the carzy one ? the car drive if you ask me . these ppl that die cuz they where doing a wheelie at 100 miles an hour .. or deside hey lets see if i can ride this wheelie around in circles on this 18 wheeler . (i have heard of guys doing this .. can you say pshyco? ) but they do what they love .. when they go down and out for good they knew what they where putting them selfs at . just like the guys that join the army . and there moms and dads go crazy there son had to die for there country and there like " this is not right its not right i'm gonna go to bushes ranch and protest" one word . they choose what they did and they stuck with it and rode it out . they did what they where gonna do and you cant change it now .
Quote from: annguyen1981 on January 22, 2006, 08:39:30 PM
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I don't know anyone who died on a bike OR in a car. I guess that proves how much I DON'T have a life.
Be glad for that. Not much fun when a g/f's brother was killed a car crash, it was a closed casket funeral.
That sucks dgyver. I've only had one close friend die (suicide). Which makes me think about all the "stuff" that's gonna happen sooner or later. Life is full of sadness, and unfortunately, there's nothing that can change that.
my brother died riding a motorcycle so when people tell me their dangerous i let them know my past and that i fully understand the danger involved. That usually makes then stfu.. also why i will never ride a GSXR..
my gf already has full instructions about what to do if I die riding:
Take the useful organs and donate them (liver, kidney, corneas, etc. i don't drink/smoke, so they work great), then burn me (at $1000 cremation fee, is the cheapest way to go), because I don't want to rot in the ground, and then take my ashes and use them to grow a plant/tree or something nice. collect insurance money and enjoy :icon_mrgreen:
Long time ago (I was 14 I think) I saw an old guy getting killed while is was riding a very small motorcycle. the car who ran him over was... a police car. the old man had no helmet/jacket/nothing, so he pretty much died on impact. I was some 8 meters away... close enough to dodge debris.
Amanda: I quote the movie Braveheart to them:
"Every man dies, but how many truly live?"
Quote from: SuZuki10 on January 22, 2006, 07:48:35 AMThere's always someone there to comment on how many people they know who have died in a motorcycle accident, or how dangerous it is, and how crazy I am. What do you say to these people?? I know what I would like to say!
If they tell me about someone they know that died, I say the same thing I always say when someone tells me someone or something has dies... "Man... That sucks." :dunno_white:
If they tell me that motorcycling is dangerous, I tell them about some of the nastiest crash videos I've seen... I get as detailed as I possibly can... "Dude, you could hear the crack... and his foot was just barely hanging on by this little string of skin... and he was holding his leg yelling 'It huuuuurts, it huuuurrrrrrrts!!'" That usually shuts them up 'cause they don't want to hear about another crash. :thumb:
If they tell me I'm crazy for riding, I tell them that I always wear my gear... If they don't understand what I mean, I simply look at them like they're stupid. :thumb:
Quote from: scottpA_GS on January 22, 2006, 08:51:00 AM
Tell them how dangerous it is for people to talk crap to motorcycle riders. Inform them of how many people you have seen injured by running their mouth into your fist :)
Haha.. no .. :icon_twisted:
Lol. I like it!
Something that cage driver's don't understand is that we as motorcycle riders (at least most of us here) are more in tune with what the hell is going on around us on the road and what the consequences are of not paying attention. It drives me crazy when my wife's drivin on the highway, yackin at me, tailgaiting the car in front and not paying attention to what the hell's going on. She gets mad at me too when I'm driving the car and didn't hear what she said because I was trying to merge onto the highway and not get killed by a transport truck. OK .. enough about that.
Almost all the stories I've heard about how dangerous bikes are involves some guy who's about 18, may not even have a licence and crashed into somethin going about mach 2. :cookoo: :cookoo: :cookoo: This past summer there were a few people around here that died this way. Oh yeah it's the bikes that are dangerous!!!
Unfortuneatly I don't have a great comeback for these kind of comments. I usually say something like "crossing the street's dangerous too". Sometimes I compare it to bicycling because I used to do alot of that. I've had more close calls when riding the bicycle than the motorcycle (knock on wood). Because there is such a big speed differential between bicycles and cars, you are basically a sitting duck on the road while riding a bicycle.
Damn, just what I said ... a quick search revealed this from webikeworld:
Report Conclusions: Findings from the FARS (Fatality Analysis Reporting System) data illustrate possible reasons for motorcyclist fatalities in single vehicle motorcycle crashes:
Helmet use among fatally injured motorcyclists below 50 percent
More motorcyclist fatalities are occurring on rural roads
High blood alcohol levels are a major problem among motorcycle operators
Half of the fatalities are related to negotiating a curve prior to the crash
Over 80 percent of the fatalities occur off roadway
Undivided roadways account for a majority of the fatalities
Almost two thirds of the fatalities were associated with speeding as an operator contributing factor in the crash
Almost 60 percent of motorcyclist fatalities occur at night
Collision with a fixed object is a significant factor in over half of the fatalities
Braking and steering maneuvers possibly contribute for almost 25 percent of the fatalities
More riders age 40 and over are getting killed
Almost one third of the fatally injured operators did not have a proper license
Quote from: 500rider on January 23, 2006, 09:16:22 PM
Damn, just what I said ... a quick search revealed this from webikeworld:
Report Conclusions: Findings from the FARS (Fatality Analysis Reporting System) data illustrate possible reasons for motorcyclist fatalities in single vehicle motorcycle crashes:
Helmet use among fatally injured motorcyclists below 50 percent
More motorcyclist fatalities are occurring on rural roads
High blood alcohol levels are a major problem among motorcycle operators
Half of the fatalities are related to negotiating a curve prior to the crash
Over 80 percent of the fatalities occur off roadway
Undivided roadways account for a majority of the fatalities
Almost two thirds of the fatalities were associated with speeding as an operator contributing factor in the crash
Almost 60 percent of motorcyclist fatalities occur at night
Collision with a fixed object is a significant factor in over half of the fatalities
Braking and steering maneuvers possibly contribute for almost 25 percent of the fatalities
More riders age 40 and over are getting killed
Almost one third of the fatally injured operators did not have a proper license
Great Find!!! :thumb:
Quote from: FearedGS500 on January 22, 2006, 08:45:45 PM
i put it like this . most motorcycle accidents are cars hitting bikes .. so whos the carzy one ? the car drive if you ask me . these ppl that die cuz they where doing a wheelie at 100 miles an hour .. or deside hey lets see if i can ride this wheelie around in circles on this 18 wheeler . (i have heard of guys doing this .. can you say pshyco? ) but they do what they love .. when they go down and out for good they knew what they where putting them selfs at . just like the guys that join the army . and there moms and dads go crazy there son had to die for there country and there like " this is not right its not right i'm gonna go to bushes ranch and protest" one word . they choose what they did and they stuck with it and rode it out . they did what they where gonna do and you cant change it now .
That is easily the best thing I've heard about this topic.
Most people just right off these guys that do 100 mph wheelies as morons, witch they may be, but people tend to not look deeper into it. It's exactly as you said
"they do what they love .. when they go down and out for good they knew what they where putting them selfs at"
And the comparison to kids going to war is spot on.
Although there are those who would say that those kids have been manipulated by modern society and media into feeling a need to fight for a meaningless cause and defend themselves against a threat that is only threatening because of past actions that their country has taken. But I won't get into that. Especially because I don't agree with all the that "brain washing" "conspiracy" B.S. I think its just like you say; "they choose what they did and they stuck with it and rode it out . they did what they where gonna do and you cant change it now"
well i think to each their own. i'll tell u that i've had the most fun in my life while on a motorcycle, but is it putting myself at more risk? of course. some people are happy not taking risks. its their decision, but they shouldnt rag on people who need a lil extra :icon_mrgreen:
I agree with weaselnoze. To each his own, however I do feel a lot of riders are tricking themselves into some security about driving a bike.
Driving a motorcycle is taking more of a risk than driving a car, you're doing the same thing (on the same roads) with far less protection. Squids doing wheelies at 100mph are not the only ones who die on bikes . And I know people will respond w/ "we can out accel, handle or brake anything out there" this arguement is kinda out of date (esp due to cars braking now a days.)
Other claims about the lack of others attention in cars concerning cell phones or loud music or whatnot I can't see being that convincing either. Okay maybe they aren't paying attention but we are on the same roads as them are we not? They have a steel cage and many protection devices to help them survive their mistake, a helmet w/ leathers doesn't compare.
I got my GS this year as my 1st bike, and against the wishes of everyone I know (except 1 friend who has an SV) and it is common to hear stories about other bike crashes and deaths, I lost a friend due to a bike crash this year as well, and he was in his lane, in the right when a car came out of no where. Police said if he were in a car he would have survived.
We all ride here for whatever reason we choose and accept the responsibilites and risk involved with it, however personally I don't think people should take it lightly and always find excuses for why someone got into the wreck and how it couldn't/wouldn't happen to you. Hopefully it never does but I don't think people should kid themselves for a second that it can't happen or you can avoid 100% of crashes.
Just my thoughts.
another point on that note is that people die all the time with helmets and leathers on just the same as squids. They help but don't ever insure no, or even lessened injuries..
Quote from: FearedGS500 on January 22, 2006, 08:45:45 PM
i put it like this . most motorcycle accidents are cars hitting bikes .. so whos the carzy one ? the car drive if you ask me . these ppl that die cuz they where doing a wheelie at 100 miles an hour .. or deside hey lets see if i can ride this wheelie around in circles on this 18 wheeler . (i have heard of guys doing this .. can you say pshyco? ) but they do what they love .. when they go down and out for good they knew what they where putting them selfs at . just like the guys that join the army . and there moms and dads go crazy there son had to die for there country and there like " this is not right its not right i'm gonna go to bushes ranch and protest" one word . they choose what they did and they stuck with it and rode it out . they did what they where gonna do and you cant change it now .
Man you couldn't have said it better. It's not like people are allowed to ride a motorcycle on the street when they're 10 and don't fully understand the risks, yet. When you're 18+ you start thinking about what you're doing I don't care who you are. You might still do things that seem dumb to others and maybe even yourself, but at least it's a calculated risk and you're more carefeul about it.
Quote from: DMac on January 24, 2006, 01:33:11 AM
To each his own, however I do feel a lot of riders are tricking themselves into some security about driving a bike.
I think people need to understand that motorcycling in itself is not inherently dangerous, but it is unforgiving of inattentiveness or carelessness. It is far more important to be aware of your surroundings on a motorcycle than it is in a car simply because the consequences are far more severe. Getting sideswiped by a car when you're in a car is annoying and expensive, but if you're on a motorcycle it can be fatal. It is important to understand how traffic flows, recognize people who don't, and use that knowledge to predict what other people are going to do. It is important to be aggressive and assertive (but not reckless), and to be able to use the motorcycle's size and maneuverability to your advantage. It's important to always have a plan, and to recognize developing dangerous situations long before they become real danger.
Whenever anyone confronts me about the danger of riding a motorcycle, I point this stuff out. I also tell them that I strive to be as safe as I possibly can be, that I don't take unnecessary risks, and that the benefits justify the risks. I also point out that I'm a pilot, and that I put the same focus on motorcycle safety, practice, and awareness as when I'm in an airplane.
Then I ask them if they ever use their cell phone while driving...
Well said, Badger.
I have seen a few posts in this thread that I disagree with. I think that motorcycling *is* dangerous in this country (USA), and I think that the many friends & relatives who mention this to riders are correct. That being said, it should be noted that motorcycling is dangerous because of the other cars on the road, directly stemming from the poor driver training and driving habits/attitude of the people who live in this country.
I think that most people will agree that the other cars on the roads/highways pose a much more clear and present danger than any gap in my riding skill or hazard on the road.
Its just like Chris Rock said (albeit paraphrased)... "when i get on the road[go to the ATM], I ain't looking for dangers[the media], i'm looking for CAGERS!!![expletive deleted]"
I agree with you on this. So many people are quick to tell me how dangerous motorycles are etc. Well that is kind of obvious dont you think? I dont need to be told be every person with an opinion. Then there are the people who ask me about my bike and who are really into it. I think the good comments outweight the stupid ones. I really like it when someone strikes up a conversation about my bike and asks me legit questions about and and doesnt jump at the opportunity to tell me how dangerous riding is. I think we all know the consequences and have thought about them long and hard. Its not like we dont know the dangers of bikes.
Today I was riding and I pulled up to a dude on a bandit 1200. He asked me what year my bike was and said it was pretty sweet. He said he was going to upgrade to a hayabusa :icon_razz:
I have no problem with people who wanna talk about bikes I actually like it. I do however have a problem with people who think they need to give me their opinion on how dangerous bikes are. Do they actually think we havent heard it before and that we dont know about the dangers? I think some people are just jealous that they dont have a bike!
I think I'm going to start replying with:
"Really?" :o "I've never heard that before... Maybe I should walk home."
Oh god how many times have i Been haggled about how im going to drop it and hurt myself blah blah blah ill myself yadda yadda!!! at least 20 people have said that in less than 4 months
Tobe honest i dont really care if i hurt myself so be it...Thats just the way things go sometimes but i ALWAYS wear full protection and common sense! thats key
Quote from: that_guy on January 22, 2006, 09:04:37 PM
my brother died riding a motorcycle so when people tell me their dangerous i let them know my past and that i fully understand the danger involved. That usually makes then stfu.. also why i will never ride a GSXR..
Have you ridden a GSXR before? Ive ridden a 600 and a 1000 both almost brand new...Ill tell ya i felt damn uncomfortable on them b/c they arent mine but i love the 600 so much!!! I just wish i could afford the insurance...But I loved every second of it. the bike feels a lot lighter than the GS and feels a little more comfortable to me...Sure there damn fast but thats what I love O0
I also think heavy cruisers are a lot more dangerous than sport bikes b/c of there weight and not-so good cornering. Altho they do feel more stable, i just dont feel comfortable sitting with my legs spread open :thumb: ...and having a 650+lbs bike fall on your leg is not a fun experience! just my $.02
Quote from: monopoly on January 24, 2006, 06:39:18 PM
I also think heavy cruisers are a lot more dangerous than sport bikes b/c of there weight and not-so good cornering. Altho they do feel more stable, i just dont feel comfortable sitting with my legs spread open :thumb: ...and having a 650+lbs bike fall on your leg is not a fun experience! just my $.02
The guy who works on the Honda "come ride with us" event says that they have more problems with cruisers crashing than sprotbikes. I think it's because the guys who are looking at the cruisers used to ride a bike 20 years ago and are now getting on a bike for the first time since. They don't want a sportbike cause they heard they're so dangerous. And they look uncomfortable too.
Quote from: that_guy on January 22, 2006, 09:04:37 PM
my brother died riding a motorcycle so when people tell me their dangerous i let them know my past and that i fully understand the danger involved. That usually makes then stfu.. also why i will never ride a GSXR..
I'm sorry about your brother. I've got 4 and I don't know what I'd do without 'em.
Things I hear from people all the time:
"You're going to get killed riding that motorcycle."
"Those cigarettes are going to kill you."
"You're a pilot? You're going to crash into a mountain and die!"
"That bacon-cheeseburger-with-extra-mayo is going to stop your heart on a dime."
"If you keep drinking like that, you're going to kill your liver."
"Your wife is going to kill you!" :icon_rolleyes:
(the list goes on...use your imagination, I do a lot of stupid things)
The way I look at it, they can't all be right. Whenever someone gives me a hard time about any of them, I say something like, "Naw...the smoking will probably get me first." The funny thing is: I'm pretty sure that one of these days my wife really is going to smother me in my sleep. :icon_confused: Chances are, I will have deserved it. :laugh:
Quote from: Slowe30 on January 24, 2006, 09:40:06 PM
Quote from: that_guy on January 22, 2006, 09:04:37 PM
my brother died riding a motorcycle so when people tell me their dangerous i let them know my past and that i fully understand the danger involved. That usually makes then stfu.. also why i will never ride a GSXR..
I'm sorry about your brother. I've got 4 and I don't know what I'd do without 'em.
I got none. it gets lonely from time to time, but it's alright :kiss3: so don't worry
Quote from: monopoly on January 24, 2006, 06:39:18 PMI also think heavy cruisers are a lot more dangerous than sport bikes b/c of there weight and not-so good cornering. Altho they do feel more stable, i just dont feel comfortable sitting with my legs spread open :thumb: ...and having a 650+lbs bike fall on your leg is not a fun experience! just my $.02
I've ridden my sister's cruiser a few times... I agree that cruisers don't corner as easily as the GS, but my sister's BF can outride me on that thing... He was scraping pegs around corners and was losing me...
I have to agree with monopoly, that it's more the rider than the bike (but the bike helps)...
Quote from: Badger on January 25, 2006, 12:16:03 PMThe way I look at it, they can't all be right. Whenever someone gives me a hard time about any of them, I say something like, "Naw...the smoking will probably get me first." The funny thing is: I'm pretty sure that one of these days my wife really is going to smother me in my sleep. :icon_confused: Chances are, I will have deserved it. :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh: Friggen tell me about it... I think my wife would poison me... Since I NEVER cook. :oops: And I'd deserve it too... :cry:
The smoking reply is easy for me... People say, "You know, smoking is bad for you." and I say, "So is telling smokers not to smoke." :thumb:
Quote from: RVertigo on January 25, 2006, 12:42:26 PM
Quote from: monopoly on January 24, 2006, 06:39:18 PMI also think heavy cruisers are a lot more dangerous than sport bikes b/c of there weight and not-so good cornering. Altho they do feel more stable, i just dont feel comfortable sitting with my legs spread open :thumb: ...and having a 650+lbs bike fall on your leg is not a fun experience! just my $.02
I've ridden my sister's cruiser a few times... I agree that cruisers don't corner as easily as the GS, but my sister's BF can outride me on that thing... He was scraping pegs around corners and was losing me...
I have to agree with monopoly, that it's more the rider than the bike (but the bike helps)...
Quote from: Badger on January 25, 2006, 12:16:03 PMThe way I look at it, they can't all be right. Whenever someone gives me a hard time about any of them, I say something like, "Naw...the smoking will probably get me first." The funny thing is: I'm pretty sure that one of these days my wife really is going to smother me in my sleep. :icon_confused: Chances are, I will have deserved it. :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh: Friggen tell me about it... I think my wife would poison me... Since I NEVER cook. :oops: And I'd deserve it too... :cry:
The smoking reply is easy for me... People say, "You know, smoking is bad for you." and I say, "So is telling smokers not to smoke." :thumb:
Indeed the rider is the one who causes the accidents most of the time but you got to remember all bikes are setup differently and what type of setup you like best.
The GSXR's have sensitive throttle's compared to the GS'es. You only have to turn it a tad bit when starting off, meanwhile my GS i have to turn it a bit more in order to make the bike go.
All my dirtbikes i've owned were setup almost identical to a supersport bikes throttle style of being very touchy...But hey thats just the way i like it..the less i have to flick my wrist the better! ;)