What are some stats for a stock gs500e, any year. I just got my first bike (I love it!) I told my friend that my bike can probably beat his GTO (no I'm not gonna race him) just based on power to weight ratio. I know the gs500 isn't fast but isn't it light enough to beat his GTO? How can something so light get beat by a stock car?
I say definately from 0-60, probably in 1/4-mile as well.......just don't do it...racing cars with motorcycles is not a good habbit to get into, first of all you are almost always faster, so it's not that much fun, second if one of you looses control almost always the rider will get hurt worse....practice, then go to the race track, leave the roadracing to fools :thumb:
With Roadstergal on it, the GS 500 has the same power to weight ratio as the BMW E46.
And it should be most any car. 1-60 times I think are like right over 4.5 seconds.
But I've been known to totally pull a statistic out of me arse.
Only car that ever gave me a run for my money was a late 90's Mustang Cobra.
-ash
What year of GTO is it?
And if this is your first time ridding a motorcycle, I don't know if you could beat him...yet ;)
Quote from: Jake D on January 23, 2006, 03:22:47 PM
And it should be most any car. 1-60 times I think are like right over 4.5 seconds.
Are 1-60 times measured from a rolling start? :laugh: :laugh:
dont go claming any thing yet . these bikes ( modles that is) stock sayyy there supose to run 14.6's 1/4 i'v had mine to a 14.41 and i was getting better as the night went . but there pretty fast for there size .. but up any thing like that . i'm not so sure .. the new GT mustang runs 13.9's but i'v heard of ppl running lower times.
if you want to beat him you better start modding!
I suggest a turbo, with oversized pistions, NOS, and afew of those rocket bosters. :laugh: then you've got a chance
You have no chance unless he's got a broken GTO. You'll take him off the line, like just about any other car, but as soon as he wraps up first gear he'd reel you in. The people who brag about beating sports cars on their bikes are typically racing v6 mustangs and compacts...not ones that'll run out 160mph without fussing too much.
http://www.fast-autos.net/pontiac/04pontiacgto.html
specs say 5.3s 0-60
and 13.9 through the quarter
so you could probabely take him to 60 then shortly after he would start to pull away
It might be close race if he's knows what he's doing but the GTO would most likely win. A stock GS 0-60 is only 5.7 with a 1/4 in 14.48 http://www.angelfire.com/falcon/mikecronis/images/pg2.jpg so it would take a good launch just to keep it a good race. One thing I've noticed it that a lot of people think a GS can beat most any car but that's just not true. I love my GS but I'm not living in any dream world. When it comes to speed it's just a fast car and nothing more. But it has so many other perks like 50 mpg, really cheep insurance, and it's a bike.
wow...the GS will keep up with my Titan...now just gotta find out how to race them against each other(i wont let anyone drive my shaZam!) :flipoff:
13.9 is not fast at all really. My old honda CRX ran 13.2s with intake and exhaust only..
well whats a gs running with intake and exhaust mods?
how about something as highly modded as dgyver's GS555R? I think that could take most any car.
i dont know take a bike with exhaust on it and a K&N. cant make toooo much of a difference.
Quote from: SofieTheBear on January 23, 2006, 08:27:19 PM
One thing I've noticed it that a lot of people think a GS can beat most any car but that's just not true. I love my GS but I'm not living in any dream world.
<chuckle> yeah I get a kick out of that...It's not GS people specific. It's pretty common to hear "I put a K&N on my <whatevervehicle> and now I can beat that Corvette". My favorite is when somebody puts new Splitfires in or something like that...(usually this is a car that has 50 lbs of McDonald's wrappers, CD's, and various other crap in the trunk). Better look out now - he's running four-dollar spark plugs!
I used to have this guy talk smack to me TO NO END when he got his new V6 Camaro. Yeah buddy - I bet those twin 4" chrome exhaust tips are going to put you MANY car lengths ahead of my V8 NITROUS'D DRAG CAR... geeez...
Not knocking the original post in any way - I just happened to be listening to someone earlier tell me how fast their turbo PT Cruiser was and they laughed when I said I drove a Pinto so I had to rant :cheers:
Quote from: that_guy on January 23, 2006, 08:43:18 PM
13.9 is not fast at all really. My old honda CRX ran 13.2s with intake and exhaust only..
The 13.9 he is quoting is the 1/4 mile time, not the 0-60. :laugh:
How the hell do you get a CRX to do 13.2 in the 1/4 mile with only an intake and exhaust mod? That's in musclecar territory.
^If it was a 3800 with a 5spd and an open exhaust it's not exactly a "slow" car...lol. Ungoverned I've seen a 3800 Firebird ('94) roll off 163mph. Dyno'ed something like 228rwhp and 245lb/tq. Crazy car...just an opened up intake, a full exhaust and the obvious chip...crazy car...
It's easy to get stupid fast times with CRX's and Si's. Sure it's muscle car territory but you don't take into account that muscle cars weigh 4000lbs...a gutted CRX weighs 1750lbs.
However...no way a stock motor CRX ran a 13 pass.
Yeah, that's ridiculous, the fastest I've ever run my S2000 was 14.2, there's no way in hell you're pulling that out of an old CRX without some serious work. Check those time slips, an 18.2 second run can look like a 13.2 O0
Quote from: makenzie71 on January 24, 2006, 12:30:48 AM
^If it was a 3800 with a 5spd and an open exhaust it's not exactly a "slow" car...lol. Ungoverned I've seen a 3800 Firebird ('94) roll off 163mph. Dyno'ed something like 228rwhp and 245lb/tq. Crazy car...just an opened up intake, a full exhaust and the obvious chip...crazy car...
It's easy to get stupid fast times with CRX's and Si's. Sure it's muscle car territory but you don't take into account that muscle cars weigh 4000lbs...a gutted CRX weighs 1750lbs.
However...no way a stock motor CRX ran a 13 pass.
yeah now that I look back it had a few more addons than previously mentioned. I just hate for someone to think that 13.9 qualifies as fast.. It's not that fast.. slight comparison being All the available 600's out there on the roads running stock mid 10 1/4's
You guys will love this :http://www.albeedigital.com/supercoupe/articles/0-60times.html
If you think 13.9 isn't fast consider this:
Aston Martin VANQUISH- 12.9 (1 second slower than Bond?) :2guns:
2006 Bentley Continental Flying Spur (twin-turbo W-12)- 13.1 (Less than one second slower than Paris Hilton) :laugh:
2002 BMW M5- 13.3 (over 400 hp!!)
1986 Buick Regal Grand National- 13.9 (the quintessential 1980's dragster)
1989 Ferrari Testarossa- 14.2 (slow?)
1991 Honda CRX Si 16.5- This is your stock 1/4 time as done by a professional driver, you've cut over 2.5 seconds off your 1/4 time, if that's not huge then consider this, cut another 2 seconds off and you're ready to beat a $750,000 supercar:
2003 Saleen S7 3.3 11.8
Something to consider, just because the archaic GS isn't fast by modern motorcycle standards doesn't at all mean that it isn't a goddamn rocketship by other standards. O0
That_guy must've been on an 1/8th mile track :bs:. I had a buddy that always talked about his 76 cutlass beating my 99 Camaro. Said it ran 12s with only exhaust and open element air filter.
Then he said it was an 1/8th mile track :icon_lol:
oh oh .. you forgot the import fans !! evo is 13.1 and WRX STi is 13.0 !! ( and might i add cheaper then the ones you posted :P
I'm sure he jest. If not I have to call :bs:
Here is a time slip of my old junk Civic. The times are 1/8th, but that coverts to about 13.9 in the 1/4. Yes, that was a Cobra in the other lane. O0 It later ran 8.59 which comes about to a 13.4. Sorry no time slip on that one.
It took a fair amount of nitrous, and gutting to pull that off.
(http://sohchonda.com/ipw-web/gallery/albums/album66/lastscan.jpg%5Bimg%5D)
I had a friend time my 0-60 time once with a stopwatch by gunning the bike to 60 and tapping the brake once I hit it. I pulled about a 4.25, but I'd guess the margin of error was around .25 seconds. I did dump out the clutch at around 6,000 to start though. The only performance mods I have are a K&N filter, re-jet and a couple lbs off with aftermarket gas cap and no fender.
Quote from: rtcpenguin on January 24, 2006, 08:17:36 AM
I had a friend time my 0-60 time once with a stopwatch by gunning the bike to 60 and tapping the brake once I hit it. I pulled about a 4.25, but I'd guess the margin of error was around .25 seconds. I did dump out the clutch at around 6,000 to start though. The only performance mods I have are a K&N filter, re-jet and a couple lbs off with aftermarket gas cap and no fender.
wow. Isn't that dangerous? I mean can't your bike just peel out from underneath you or go sideways? :cookoo:
Goo too much higher than 6 grand when dumping your clutch and your front wheel will come up, likely. It's a nice squid trick but it is going to slow you down if your dragging. :thumb: I am thinking that is why he dumped the clutch at 6k, instead of higher.
(http://www.houston-imports.com/users/that_guy/crx/Picture%20002.jpg) my old POS
(http://www.houston-imports.com/users/that_guy/crx/chart%202.jpg) my finished product.
im used to imports that run 11's and on good days run low 10's. Neons, WRX's and lancers run 13's and 12's stock.
http://www.houston-imports.com/users/that_guy/crx/Fast-Turbo.avi
heres a vid of one of my friends cars. It's me filming and one of my good friends tuning the car.. this car ended up making 762 Hp by the end of the day..
Quote from: that_guy on January 23, 2006, 08:43:18 PM
13.9 is not fast at all really. My old honda CRX ran 13.2s with intake and exhaust only..
I don't think anyone is saying that you can't get a CRX to run a sub 12 second 1/4 mile, the fact of the matter is that it won't be even close to 13.2 with just an intake and an exhaust. 465 hp at the wheels is a different ballgame entirely, that's a damn fast car but on the opposite side of the coin, it's barely drivable (stripped interior, traction issues, reliability issues when you pull 400+ hp from a 1.6l engine, etc.).
Quote from: SmartDrug on January 24, 2006, 11:12:41 AM
Quote from: that_guy on January 23, 2006, 08:43:18 PM
13.9 is not fast at all really. My old honda CRX ran 13.2s with intake and exhaust only..
I don't think anyone is saying that you can't get a CRX to run a sub 12 second 1/4 mile, the fact of the matter is that it won't be even close to 13.2 with just an intake and an exhaust. 465 hp at the wheels is a different ballgame entirely, that's a damn fast car but on the opposite side of the coin, it's barely drivable (stripped interior, traction issues, reliability issues when you pull 400+ hp from a 1.6l engine, etc.).
it was a daily driven street car. now the video I posted represents what you are talking about. My CRX had full interior and was prefectly streetable. I did recant my original statement where I said "stock". I guess we could go on about this all day. I'd just love to see one of the 75+ HP gs's ive read about. Whatever they did to get that much power gain would be awesome to re-create..
Haha, fair enough. I'm really curious about that GS555R, or that one mutant with the GSXR heads that has shown up on here a few times.
was there any numbers for the GSXR frankentstein?
Quote from: SmartDrug on January 24, 2006, 11:49:57 AM
Haha, fair enough. I'm really curious about that GS555R, or that one mutant with the GSXR heads that has shown up on here a few times.
well I'm building a GS555R so maybe we'll find out. highlift cams, and all the goodies.
And from the sounds of it, it seems like dgyver is building a frankenGS with a gsxr head.
maybe we'll get some numbers in the not to distant future.
Quote from: that_guy on January 23, 2006, 08:43:18 PM
13.9 is not fast at all really. My old honda CRX ran 13.2s with intake and exhaust only..
LOL a CRX with a Type-R B18c5 motor/tranny might run mid-high 13's but definately NOT a stock CRX buddy they run in the 16's...maybe even 17's.
As for street racing goes, The GTO will take the GS no problem...They are a heavier car but those LS1 motors are very strong and the power is de-tuned.
If you add a cold air intake and full exhuast to a newer GTO they run low 13's almost a second less than stock!
Quote from: SmartDrug on January 24, 2006, 11:12:41 AM
Quote from: that_guy on January 23, 2006, 08:43:18 PM
13.9 is not fast at all really. My old honda CRX ran 13.2s with intake and exhaust only..
I don't think anyone is saying that you can't get a CRX to run a sub 12 second 1/4 mile, the fact of the matter is that it won't be even close to 13.2 with just an intake and an exhaust. 465 hp at the wheels is a different ballgame entirely, that's a damn fast car but on the opposite side of the coin, it's barely drivable (stripped interior, traction issues, reliability issues when you pull 400+ hp from a 1.6l engine, etc.).
Theres a shop in toronto called Exotic touch designs that hold the Canadian CRX all motor setup record at 11 secs in the 1/4mile...mid you its not setup for street by any means tho
Well I had 2 WRX's beat my GS my starts weren't good and it was close but I was beaten even if I had of got a good start :cry: :oops:
I destroyed a mustang on my vintage cb400f :dunno_white:
Does that count for anything? lol
kid didn't know how to drive though. it was all screeching tires and wheel spin.
Quote from: budget speed demon on January 24, 2006, 03:41:56 PM
I destroyed a mustang on my vintage cb400f :dunno_white:
Does that count for anything? lol
kid didn't know how to drive though. it was all screeching tires and wheel spin.
Depends on the stang u raced...The small block 5.0L's can run anywhere from mid-low 14's stock to low 15's depending on there year. and same goes for the 4.6L
Quote from: Lukewarm Wilson on January 24, 2006, 03:04:47 PM
Well I had 2 WRX's beat my GS my starts weren't good and it was close but I was beaten even if I had of got a good start :cry: :oops:
WRX's (not STi's) run high 14's in the 1/4 stock and thats pushing it most of them will run low 15's...And im talking about doing clutch dumps at 4K rpm and up with perfect shifting trying to get into the 14's.
Also AWD turbo cars have a wicked launch with hardly any wheelspin with good tires. I own a 91' Stealth Twin Turbo AWD and it hooks like crazy.
If you raced the WRX from a roll you should have beaten him with ease.
I took a WRX about 3 years ago on my GS from 20 to 70 I had him easy then I backed off. My highlight was on my FJ though, I took a 2005 Viper from 30 to 140 before I realized how fast I was really going and backed way the hell off. A crazy adrenaline rush though, knowing that I smoked an $80,000 car with my $2,000 bike. Yay power- to - weight ratios! :thumb:
Quote from: that_guy on January 23, 2006, 08:43:18 PM
13.9 is not fast at all really. My old honda CRX ran 13.2s with intake and exhaust only..
13.2 with intake and exh? you must have had some of those yellow stickers. maybe even blue.
edit: woops, didn't see there were 3 pages. i missed the boat big time in calling that stat into question.
lol at the cotinued posts.
this GS555R what all is it ? exaust,rejet,bore&hone ? if its bored whats the bore on it? and is it still relible as a daily driver ? ( just asking now cuz once i get it payed off i plan one having it bored and ported
This has always confused me too. Is the cost of boring and stoking and extrude honing a GS500 even worth it unless you're simply trying to keep in a certain class? I mean, if a 1998 GS will cost you $2000 for a decent specimin and you drop another $500- 1000 into suspension tweaking and getting it race prepped and then on top of that drop another $1000 to mod the engine, weren't you just better off buying a 2002 CBR F4i or similar. I look at Pantablo and can't help but thinking he has the right idea.
It's like those guys you see driving around in a 94 Neon with rims, exhaust, ground effects and a custom paint job... save your money and buy a Civic Si or SRT-4. :dunno_white:
Half the fun is in making it work. There are always "better" ways.
Plus, 600 and up racing classes are full of hot-headed young males that aren't afraid to die.
If I had a 600 then I would be modding that, at witch point people would ask, 'Why bother modding that 600, just buy a 1000' Most likely if I had a 1000 I would be modding that too, at witch point people would be asking, 'Why not just buy a Busa?' and if I had a Busa...... well you get the point.
What I'm trying to say is that I'd be modding w/e it was that I had, and for now what I have is a GS.
I'm also trying to learn everything that I can about motors so in the future I can do some crazy sh!t. Like say for instance a vintage 750 Honda with a 750 gsxr motor? I've been thinking about that one for a while now. There's something fantastic about knowing you've accomplished something, and built this tweaked out custom bike that no one else has.
Not to mention having the fastest GS on the block. :icon_mrgreen: