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Title: MSF scores?
Post by: that_guy on February 05, 2006, 01:56:05 PM
for the folks that have take the MSF course what did you score on the road test?

I just got a perfect score.  no hits.. :thumb:
Title: Re: MSF scores?
Post by: Thor S Magic Bathtub on February 05, 2006, 02:02:21 PM
I think I got an 84. Got dinged on the figure eight and quick stop. It was the worste riding I had done for the whole class so I was kinda pissed. But like 50% of the people in my class failed so I got over it.
Congrats on your score!
Title: Re: MSF scores?
Post by: rtcpenguin on February 05, 2006, 02:13:07 PM
I dont even think we were scored out of 100.

It was something along the lines of for each thing you mess up you get 3 points, and you can't exceed 21 points. I got an 11 or something for not going fast enough into a turn.
Title: Re: MSF scores?
Post by: fettcols on February 05, 2006, 02:38:32 PM
Not the MSF but I had a perfect score on the Ohio skills test... I cheated... Went down to the course after the BMV closed and practiced the night before.
Title: Re: MSF scores?
Post by: that_guy on February 05, 2006, 02:39:58 PM
Quote from: rtcpenguin on February 05, 2006, 02:13:07 PM
I dont even think we were scored out of 100.

It was something along the lines of for each thing you mess up you get 3 points, and you can't exceed 21 points. I got an 11 or something for not going fast enough into a turn.
yes this is how we were scored as well.  there was 4 perfects in the class.  I was one of them, yay!
Title: Re: MSF scores?
Post by: Alphamazing on February 05, 2006, 02:43:39 PM
I think I was one point off from "perfect" because I got dinged for taking too long in one excercise. I don't think anyone completed it in the "reccomended" time, though.
Title: Re: MSF scores?
Post by: ninja_steve on February 05, 2006, 05:58:09 PM
dont remember that being disclosed to us.  been too many years i guess  :icon_confused:
Title: Re: MSF scores?
Post by: Chris_B on February 05, 2006, 08:16:11 PM
I also got perfect, riding dirtbikes since you were 8 helps a bit.
Title: Re: MSF scores?
Post by: LeChatNoir on February 05, 2006, 11:35:03 PM
In California at the Honda rider education center, the MSF course scored from 0-20, 0 being perfect and 21 failing. I managed to get a 0. Thus encouraged, I later bought a new 2005 GS500F and dropped it while taking it off the center stand to go for a ride the first time :cry:
Title: Re: MSF scores?
Post by: groff22 on February 06, 2006, 08:12:36 AM
Only one in my class of 15 or so to score perfect. I was like 2 seconds away from the maximum timelimit for the road test, but I was being careful...
Title: Re: MSF scores?
Post by: Jake D on February 06, 2006, 08:45:52 AM
I didn't get perfect.  Too slow in the long curve. 

Only one person in my class failed.  The instructer invited her back that following Saturday.   He was going to work with her one on one and re-administer the test for her.  That was nice.
Title: Re: MSF scores?
Post by: Admiral Crunch on February 06, 2006, 09:04:20 AM
I missed about 14 points, but I passed.  I nailed the box and the swerve perfectly, so I decided I had some points to burn and took it easy on the emergency stop, because I'd had trouble with that one in the class.  I lost 12 points by not stopping in the allowed distance, but better that than drop the bike trying to stop too fast.  I also lost 2 points on the curve test for being a tad too slow.
Title: Re: MSF scores?
Post by: aaronstj on February 06, 2006, 12:22:48 PM
I got 10 points off, five for crossing the line on the box, and five for going too slow through the curve.

I believe all teh MSF courses are graded the same way, with a maximum of 20 penalty points allowed.  Some people just like to think of it as being points out of 100 (like most tests in life), and an 80% score needed to pass.
Title: Re: MSF scores?
Post by: The Antibody on February 06, 2006, 12:31:59 PM
I had 3 points or so deducted from me, it was so long ago I can't remember why though. It was cake. The course it designed to alow everyone to pass. If you fail, you really shouldn't be on the road.

  -Anti  8)
Title: Re: MSF scores?
Post by: RVertigo on February 06, 2006, 12:57:51 PM
I don't recall my exact score, but I got dinged twice... Once for locking the rear tire on the quick stop...  And once for using only the front brake one time.

I could have screwed up a few other things and still passed I guess...   I had to redo the swerve because I went WAY too fast out of the box ('cause I was over-excited to have passed the box) and slowed down right before the cones...  When I did it the second time, I just started at a slower speed and they were happy with that...

I was the ONLY person in my class that had to redo one of the parts of the test...  I guess it's good I only screwed up bad on a part I could take over.   :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: MSF scores?
Post by: kalel3914 on February 06, 2006, 01:36:12 PM
In my class, they used the reverse scoring method (counting mistake points).  I got 2 off in the big turn because i got too confident and had to let off the throtle a bit to avoid the last cone.  I always was a bit to eager.
Title: Re: MSF scores?
Post by: Jake D on February 06, 2006, 01:49:13 PM
I guess I had a problem with that long curve for a couple of reasons.  Yeah, I went too slow, but. . .

Here is why: they did specify a speed that wanted me to go, but if I had checked the speedo they would have surely docked me points for not keeping my eyes looking where I needed to go.  Also I took a peek at the cone.  It was dark as heck that night and it had rained all day.  The "cone" was a tiny green thing about thalf the size of a coffee mug.  Yeah, I looked at it.  I couldn't see the damn thing!  I had no idea where I was going!

There is my long curve rant. 

Title: Re: MSF scores?
Post by: Destro on February 06, 2006, 02:09:34 PM
Couldn't find the last cone on my turn, missed it completely and slowed down during the turn, but they only docked me for the slow down. :thumb:  Mine was during the day but the last cone was green while the rest were orange.  :mad:
Title: Re: MSF scores?
Post by: scootr9718 on February 06, 2006, 04:05:58 PM
Yes, add me to the list of PERFECTS...In my class I was the only one to get a perfect score!! :thumb:
Title: Re: MSF scores?
Post by: okayf00l on February 06, 2006, 09:37:07 PM
They never even told us the scores  :icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: MSF scores?
Post by: aevans17 on February 06, 2006, 10:29:07 PM
So I failed the first time I took the test. It was a little rainy on the second day, and I was feeling really comfortable during the long curve practice session. We started with the left hand curve first, which has always and continues to be easier for me to do. I did that perfect every time. When then switched sides to do the right hand turn. I went into the first curve in 1st gear because I didn't quite pick up enough speed before the curve started. I was comming out of the curve and wanted to shift into second really quickly because I knew I had to pick up some speed before I goto the 2nd curve and because I was still not very good at shifting. Well apparently my mind had transposed the gear shifter to being on onside of the turn and not always on the left hand because that's how it was on the left-hand curve. So I pulled in the right lever instead of the left, locked the front tire, induced a skid which put the front and rear wheel out of alignment since I was still comming out of the curve. When I let go of the brake and the rear wheel started to roll again I almost high sided, but fortunately managed to tip the bike on the low side.

It was really cool because I was the only person to crash in the whole class. Most of the people there had been riding for years but needed to pass the class in order to ride their bikes at Fort Lewis Army Base. So I never got to practice the long curve going right, and i couldn't do the box because I hadn't managed to master the clutch yet. I failed the test because I got -10 for the box, -10 for missing the last cone on the curve, and -1 for taking 3 seconds too long in the whole curve exercise.

Take that all you perfect score people!!!

I went back a week later because I had to pass the test. In the mean time I bought the 2004 GS500F that is my avitar and got a learners permit from the DMV so that I could practice on my own. 2nd time around was fun because I rode a ninja 250 instead of the POS Kawasaki intruder that I road the 1st time. It was much closer to the GS I had been riding at home, and it felt alot more comfortable. When the test started I still sucked at the box, but didn't care because -10 is only half of 20 and I knew I could pass all the other tests. I did the quick stop in less then a bike length, and the swerve was super easy. The box I almost did, but barely touched the line twice once in each direction. I aced the long curve. Overall I got -10.

So yes I had to go back for the short bus lesson the next week, but I made it, have my endorsement, have a cool bike, and haven't had another accident since the class. I'm kind of hopping the one in the class going 7 miles an hour in a parking lot will count as my "it's not if, it's WHEN". 

Keep the shinny side up, and congratulations to all the perfect scores. I wish that my 1st MSF course was not also my first time on a motorcycle, and the first time ever operating anything with a clutch. I know that and the fact that everyone else in my class had been riding forever made me feel nervous I was embarassed and road like shaZam!. The second time was much easier because I was one of the best of the rejects that had to take the class again. Oh yeah and the second class was awesome cause it was mostly chics that all wanted to learn how to ride motorcycles.

Anyways, I just wanted to post my failure so that others would not feel bad if they did not get a perfect. I mean at least you did better then me!!!!!!!

Title: Re: MSF scores?
Post by: pantablo on February 06, 2006, 11:58:23 PM
Quote from: AlphaFire X5 on February 05, 2006, 02:43:39 PM
I think I was one point off from "perfect" because I got dinged for taking too long in one excercise. I don't think anyone completed it in the "reccomended" time, though.

same here, except I got dinged for not maximum stopping within 15ft...
Title: Re: MSF scores?
Post by: Badger on February 07, 2006, 12:57:29 PM
I got through everything without incident up to the long curve (IIRC, that's the last part of the test).  My bike kept dropping out of 2nd into neutral running up to the turn so I had to hustle to pick up enough speed, got over-agressive and leaned over too far, lost sight of the last cone and crossed the inside line.  I think they gave me 15 points or something for the debacle. 

I ended up with the lowest score of all the people who passed (there were three who failed and two that didn't complete the session).  After the test, they corralled folks into two groups and led a bunch of us inside.  We were the ones who had passed, and they sat down with us and went over the results individually...where the points came from, what probbaly went wrong, that kind of thing.  The other group (those that didn't pass) hung around outside to wait for the afternoon session and try the eval again.
Title: Re: MSF scores?
Post by: RVertigo on February 07, 2006, 05:53:35 PM
Quote from: pantablo on February 06, 2006, 11:58:23 PMsame here, except I got dinged for not maximum stopping within 15ft...
Should have locked it up like me...  :laugh: I made it at the exact max distance...  One more inch and I would have been over.