Being able to walk into a taco stand with a 9mm strapped to your side and nobody gives it a second thought.
...the bonus is bums steer clear of you along with da meth addicts and punks. :laugh: :thumb:
..another bonus is you get service fast and friendly :thumb:
You can do that in NV too...
You know what else it cool about Rural NV? Speeding tickets aren't moving violations! :thumb:
so...you're basically saying you can get shot up at taco stand if you aren't lucky?
An armed society is a polite society...
Oh crap... NM... I take it back... I don't want another thread about guns! :2guns: :nono:
RUN!!! :o
hahahaha...good thing rg is not here to read this :laugh: :laugh:
and a big :nono: to john :laugh:
That is soooo cool :2guns:
Out here you mention guns & ppl think youre a phsycotic maniac :cookoo:
It's a legal open carry state. As long as I don't go into alcohol serving establishments, schools, post offices or Federal buildings I can legally carry.
With all the shaZam! that goes on only 2 miles away from here (and all through So. Phoenix) there's no friggin way I wouldn't carry. I'm not going to go down like a lemming.
I wish Cali were an open-carry state. I think the crime rate would go WAY down if the scumbag thugs thought they might get SHOT! :mad:
you mean you were (are) the one packing?
were the tacos tasty anyway?
I'm not really into guns, but I sure wouldn't mind carrying a paintball gun for those suckers that cut me off, that don't use their turn signals, or are just plain obnoxious. Ah yes, that would be ideal. :2guns:
I carry whenever I leave the house and have since I was 21 yrs. old. I have mixed feeling about open carry. One point of view is that the exposed gun will deter others from illegal actions rendering the carrier safer. The other way to look at it is if they know that you are carrying and want your gun they can blindside you....I like the element of suprise with concealed carry. :thumb: I think the choice should be up to the one carrying though.
So who's going to get all pissy and leave this time?
BTW, I can do that in Texas, too, John...my typical carry is a .45, though. I like it's punch a lot better than my 9's and I figure it'll be so rare that I'll have to shoot something that I'd like to leave a lasting impression. That and I have a dual capacity clip for it...
Just for the kicks of making another semi-gun related post, Pheadrus reminded me of a very nifty system I wish we could establish here. It's called "The Idiot System". How it works is that everyone is given one of those little plastic kiddy guns and a dozen suction-cup darts with some kind of adhesive tips. Any time you see someone doing something stupid on the road, you shoot their bumper. When a cop sees a car go by with like 8 darts stuck to the back, it's an automatic idiot-ticket.
As soon as I can find a way to prevent idiots from taking advantage of the system I'll start a "movement"....
Quote from: makenzie71 on March 15, 2006, 03:53:57 PM
Just for the kicks of making another semi-gun related post, Pheadrus reminded me of a very nifty system I wish we could establish here. It's called "The Idiot System". How it works is that everyone is given one of those little plastic kiddy guns and a dozen suction-cup darts with some kind of adhesive tips. Any time you see someone doing something stupid on the road, you shoot their bumper. When a cop sees a car go by with like 8 darts stuck to the back, it's an automatic idiot-ticket.
Well some of the ...err Mexicans' cars would look like a porcupine within days out here :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
...remember, I live 2 miles away from the toughest part of the city. Even people living in ghettos in other parts of the city are scared of so. Phoenix. I/2 are ilegals and the other half meth addicts. Can't drive worth a shaZam!, can't speak engrish, but CAN make tasty rolled tacos :thumb:
I wonder how long before a moderator moves this to the TF :laugh:
Only reason I EVER went to the south side of houston...bad ass mexican and asian food...
I am deeply offended by this thread (cuz *I* want tasty rolled tacos!) :mad:
Yeah... No fair talking about good food so far from lunch and dinner!!! :mad:
**grumble** :cry:
Quote from: makenzie71 on March 15, 2006, 03:50:38 PM
So who's going to get all pissy and leave this time?
Well, seeing as how you're talking about legally carrying gun, and not sellling them semi-legally (at best), I think you're ok.
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Quote from: Wrecent_Wryder on March 15, 2006, 05:50:26 PM
Well, I for one am not afraid to say that I'm deeply, deeply offended by the entire subject matter. What is civilization coming to?
You can carry anything you want, and you pick a 9 mm???
Here, a kid with a .22-short single-shot is justification for calling out the SWAT teams and helicopters- but even with government-guaranteed-disarmed victims, the criminals don't generally go that lightly armed.
But, it's a free country- and in a free country, I suppose you can leave your quarters inadequately armed if you want to. I just pity any innocent women or children that might depend on you for protection, not knowing... hopefully someone nearby will have something with more stopping power. ;)
Well put! My regular carry piece is a .45 but due to size limitations I carry a KelTec .32 at work.
I eat 6 yummy beef tacos yesterday... man were they juicy and tasty :icon_mrgreen:
The only thing I don't like about being able to legally carry guns is that there are those people, who have terrible rage problems. The kind of people who explode and become violent when they get into a fender bender or someone makes fun of them. This kind of person carrying a gun is maybe not such a good idea. Having witnessed the direct affect of a shooting recently, (black on black shooting out front of my work just as I was about to walk out) I can tell you that it looks like it would really suck to get shot, and especially if it's just because you called the wrong person fat.
...remember, I live 2 miles away from the toughest part of the city. Even people living in ghettos in other parts of the city are scared of so. Phoenix. I/2 are ilegals and the other half meth addicts. Can't drive worth a shaZam!, can't speak engrish, but CAN make tasty rolled tacos :thumb:
I wonder how long before a moderator moves this to the TF :laugh:
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I also live in Phoenix. South Phoenix is ruff so I dont blame you for carrying. They are trying to make it better with all the new construction but it will always be the getto.
Quote from: bsj177 on March 15, 2006, 08:55:37 PM
I also live in Phoenix. South Phoenix is ruff so I dont blame you for carrying. They are trying to make it better with all the new construction but it will always be the getto.
Another Phoenician :thumb: And can back me up about the area :thumb: I'm in Laveen off 31st Ave, the nastyness starts at 19th. No matter where I go, CircleK, taco stand, wherever I see all kinds of dirt bags. I'm in a nice development, but once outside that it's gross -reminds me of Tijuana.
Where in Phoenix are you?
So. Phoenix will always be a human cesspool. I don't care how much money they dump into it.
In 14 months and 2 weeks we can sell the house and not pay capital gains. We are moving to Chandler.
I live in Maricopa, moved out here 4 years ago. I used to live in Ahwatukee and that was close enough to South Phx. Chandler is a nice place, I'd move there if housing wasnt so expensive.
You can barely even carry around toy guns here...
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I always thought it was funny that a nation with a zero-tolerence ban on firearms was home to the gun-crime capitol of the western hemisphere... :2guns: :2guns:
Quote from: budget speed demon on March 15, 2006, 08:43:24 PM
I can tell you that it looks like it would really suck to get shot, and especially if it's just because you called the wrong person fat.
I would imagine it would suck to get shot for any reason, be it road rage, prejudice, or downright stupidity. :icon_rolleyes:
Quote from: bsj177 on March 15, 2006, 09:12:36 PM
I live in Maricopa, moved out here 4 years ago. I used to live in Ahwatukee and that was close enough to South Phx. Chandler is a nice place, I'd move there if housing wasnt so expensive.
Oh yea. Right on. Maricopa is growing like the rest of the valley. The wife has a girl at her work who just bought a new house out there. At least there's quiet roads to do some speed testing. I have to do it through the Indian reservation on 51st Ave/Beltline going the back way into Ahwatukee :laugh: (you know the 10 mile stretch of nothing before hitting Queen Creek road) Best speed so far: 152mph :icon_mrgreen:
Chandler is nice. Expensive, but a nice home can be had for 300k. I bet Maricopa prices are up to almost 250 now.
1st version was better, mrs purple.
Quote from: makenzie71 on March 15, 2006, 09:34:58 PM
1st version was better, mrs purple.
Actually, it's Ms. :thumb:
Quote from: john on March 15, 2006, 09:34:10 PM
Chandler is nice. Expensive, but a nice home can be had for 300k. I bet Maricopa prices are up to almost 250 now.
Houses on the east side in San Jose *start* at about 600k. :flipoff: 300k would be a major bargain(ie. you won't find it here!)! :cookoo:
Quote from: budget speed demon on March 15, 2006, 08:43:24 PM
The only thing I don't like about being able to legally carry guns is that there are those people, who have terrible rage problems. The kind of people who explode and become violent when they get into a fender bender or someone makes fun of them. This kind of person carrying a gun is maybe not such a good idea. Having witnessed the direct affect of a shooting recently, (black on black shooting out front of my work just as I was about to walk out) I can tell you that it looks like it would really suck to get shot, and especially if it's just because you called the wrong person fat.
depends where you get shot. I think i would rather get shot than stabbed several times... if i had to select one for some reason, that's what i would pick.
An insane amount of medical resources is wasted on all of these goofs getting shot in toronto, i'd love to see the medical bill of one of these 'gangstas' who needs a full trauma team and days and days of critical care becuase someone sold him low grade crack. I bet its in the hundreds of thousands of dollars after the first month.
Taco's suck
Oh yea. Right on. Maricopa is growing like the rest of the valley. The wife has a girl at her work who just bought a new house out there. At least there's quiet roads to do some speed testing. I have to do it through the Indian reservation on 51st Ave/Beltline going the back way into Ahwatukee :laugh: (you know the 10 mile stretch of nothing before hitting Queen Creek road) Best speed so far: 152mph :icon_mrgreen:
Chandler is nice. Expensive, but a nice home can be had for 300k. I bet Maricopa prices are up to almost 250 now.
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Yeah it's getting expensive out here two. Just sold my 1300 SF house for 205K. Building a new one, 1950 SF for about 225K. Still a lot of house for the money! I am familiar with the beltline. I have a friend who lives on Baseline and 51st Ave and take the beltline to get over there. His house and car got broken into within a year of moving in...again the whole too close to South Phx thing.
Quote from: ajgs500 on March 15, 2006, 09:43:27 PM
Taco's suck
uh oh...trouble has arrived...TF soon.... :o
:flipoff: ;) :icon_mrgreen:
Quote from: bsj177 on March 15, 2006, 09:47:03 PM
Yeah it's getting expensive out here two. Just sold my 1300 SF house for 205K. Building a new one, 1950 SF for about 225K. Still a lot
I love the newspaper articles that compare housing costs and describe what one can purchase for the same amount in different states. A tiny, starter, one-bedroom bungalow in some la-ti-da area of California will cost as much or more than a five-bedroom mansion elsewhere in the nation.
However, every time that I think that I *really* need to move to a more-affordable area, I'm suckered in by Cali's weather and year-round riding... :mad: :dunno_white: :laugh:
Pandy dont make me drive my Porsche out there and line your bumper with plastic darts.
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Quote from: ajgs500 on March 15, 2006, 09:51:45 PM
Pandy dont make me drive my Porsche out there and line your bumper with plastic darts.
Who says any more plastic darts will fit? :icon_lol: :flipoff: :icon_mrgreen:
P.S. Porsche!?...you lie, woman! :bs: :icon_razz: :cookoo: :laugh:
Quote from: pandy on March 15, 2006, 09:58:08 PM
Quote from: ajgs500 on March 15, 2006, 09:51:45 PM
Pandy dont make me drive my Porsche out there and line your bumper with plastic darts.
Who says any more plastic darts will fit? :icon_lol: :flipoff: :icon_mrgreen:
P.S. Porsche!?...you lie, woman! :bs: :icon_razz: :cookoo: :laugh:
Yup but if was gonna drive all the way out there I might as well steal one!!!!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
And there are other places on your car to apply plastic darts.
Quote from: makenzie71 on March 15, 2006, 09:15:54 PM
I always thought it was funny that a nation with a zero-tolerence ban on firearms was home to the gun-crime capitol of the western hemisphere... :2guns: :2guns:
Toronto isn't the gun-crime capitol of the western hemisphere is it?
I know there is a crap load of shootings going on around these street lately though. Makes me wanna move out the country, pick up a couple of dirt bikes, jet ski's and snowmobiles and live out my life happy. :icon_mrgreen:
That toy gun ban is the stupidest thing ever. First of all, who's going to enforce it? What officer is gonna give a ticket to a 3 year old kid? Giving it their parents is stupid. Then what about those 12year old kids who go to the $1 store and buy realistic cap guns? Gonna give them a ticket? Ok ok, that aside. The ban then goes on to say that it's only effective for people under 18. So the kinds who are harmless can't have toy guns because they could be mistaken for real guns, but teenagers can have replica/toy guns so they can use them to rob convenient stores? What a F***ing waist of time creating this ban/bill/whatever it is. If you're going to do a ban, ban them entirely from the city, so NO ONE can have them.
Everything is awesome about Arizona....lived there for 26 years. Now I wish I had stayed.
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Quote from: john on March 15, 2006, 02:56:51 PM
It's a legal open carry state. As long as I don't go into alcohol serving establishments, schools, post offices or Federal buildings I can legally carry.
With all the shaZam! that goes on only 2 miles away from here (and all through So. Phoenix) there's no friggin way I wouldn't carry. I'm not going to go down like a lemming.
. as long as az res. ( i was one) had glock 21, as long as visible and as long as you can legally own said weapon. you can. lol, i did on my way to work every day, saved a lot of time. went through ghetto instead of around it :2guns:
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haha we used to play that back before anyone really knew what paintball guns were. Good times...
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could some one explain how the open carry law works please 8)
Quote from: budget speed demon on March 15, 2006, 10:53:23 PM
If you're going to do a ban, ban them entirely from the city, so NO ONE can have them.
Except the bad guys!
In Missouri you can carry concealed weapons (with the usual restrictions, courts, post offices, police stations, schools, etc).
So anyone can be packing heat and you wouldn't know. Hence the "concealed" part of the statute. It is just wild.
Quote from: Jake D on March 16, 2006, 08:37:10 AM
So anyone can be packing heat and you wouldn't know. Hence the "concealed" part of the statute. It is just wild.
Does anyone know of any studies or statistics out there comparing non-carrying states, concealed-carrying states, and non-concealed-carrying states? Would be very interesting to know whether or not there's a difference in the crime rates (as well as whether there's a difference in the severity of the crimes that do occur)...
I was wondering that Pandy. Missouri passed the conceal and carry statute about a year ago. It passed by a LANDSLIDE! Welcome to the Bible Belt, where we care about three things: guns, morals, and God. There wasn't even any debate about it. And nobody cares to see statistics, either, because no studies have been done. At least none have been released. We still had like 130 murders in Kansas City, Missouri last year. But mostly in neighborhoods were you carry a gun illegally. It is pretty much business as usual.
Ok apparently in Virgin, Utah it is illegal NOT to own a gun......
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Quote from: bubba zanetti on March 16, 2006, 01:48:24 AM
could some one explain how the open carry law works please 8)
Date updated: Sep 26, 2005 @ 4:04 pm
Arizona is an open carry state. Handguns should be holstered when not actually in use to avoid issues related to brandishing or questions regarding the concealed nature of the firearm. The law states that as long as a portion of the holster is visible, the weapon is not concealed. It is recommended that at least 2-3 inches of the holster be visible. Fanny packs designed to carry a handgun do not qualify as a holster; only permit holders may carry a weapon in a fanny pack (State v. Moerman).
An unholstered handgun carried by a non-permitee which is only partially visible is considered concealed, hence the recommendation to keep carried handguns holstered. Weapons carried in a vehicle that are not in a holster or case must be clearly visible and obvious, unless the weapon is in the trunk, glove box or a storage compartment of the vehicle (see comment under Car/Gun law summary). Weapons may be transported/carried loaded or unloaded. Open carry is generally discouraged on tribal lands (see discussion under "Places off-limits while carrying"). Other locations may be posted "no weapons" or be covered under State or Federal law (see above).
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so whats the point of being able to carry a gun or not? or what's the point of banning weapons or not? I really don't understand how government can be so slow to understand this one...
after all, is not like criminals would care if there's a law that prohibits guns.
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on March 16, 2006, 11:02:42 AM
Quote from: bubba zanetti on March 16, 2006, 01:48:24 AM
could some one explain how the open carry law works please 8)
Date updated: Sep 26, 2005 @ 4:04 pm
Arizona is an open carry state. Handguns should be holstered when not actually in use to avoid issues related to brandishing or questions regarding the concealed nature of the firearm. The law states that as long as a portion of the holster is visible, the weapon is not concealed. It is recommended that at least 2-3 inches of the holster be visible. Fanny packs designed to carry a handgun do not qualify as a holster; only permit holders may carry a weapon in a fanny pack (State v. Moerman).
An unholstered handgun carried by a non-permitee which is only partially visible is considered concealed, hence the recommendation to keep carried handguns holstered. Weapons carried in a vehicle that are not in a holster or case must be clearly visible and obvious, unless the weapon is in the trunk, glove box or a storage compartment of the vehicle (see comment under Car/Gun law summary). Weapons may be transported/carried loaded or unloaded. Open carry is generally discouraged on tribal lands (see discussion under "Places off-limits while carrying"). Other locations may be posted "no weapons" or be covered under State or Federal law (see above).
Thanks for that. It amazes me how relaxed you guys are with your gun laws over there. :2guns:
I hope all this re-enforces the U.S.A.'s John Wayne image because it is totally true.
Down here its only the bad guys that carry :cookoo:
It goes back over 200 years here. The British didn't allow us Yanks to carry weopons. So after we ran them out of here, we made sure that we had the right to bear arms for all of eternity.
Why, I myself have owned a semi-automatic rifle since I was a pup, just knee high to a grasshopper. And I'm a democrat!
They took all our semi-auto rifles off us & pistols are limited to .38/9mm, unless you shoot black powder. :thumb: But calibre size doesnt matter cause you're only allowed to have a pistol for target shooting :cry:
No self defence down here :icon_twisted: