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Title: My Turbo CRX
Post by: CRXDrew on April 24, 2006, 08:55:55 PM
Here she is. Bought her when I was 16, my first car. 4 years later and lots of loving she is what she is. I'll mention some specs then let the pics speak for themself.

89 Honda CRX Si
----Exterior
-home paint job
-15" Rota slips
-205/50/15 Falken Azenis
-H&R sport springs
-KYB GR2 struts
-22mm Suspension Techniques rear sway
-all new front arms/bushings/tie ends/ball joints
-2.25 OBX exhaust  :cookoo: (its a bit small for turbo setup i know... thats what the cut out is for)

----engine
A6 block
Z6 head
Y8 mls head gasket
TDO5H 14b turbo
2.25 charge pipes
1st gen DSM BOV
2.5" downpipe
2.5" cutout
test pipe
modified Mitsu Starion intercooler
TurboEdit for fuel management
Field Controller for vtec activation
450cc DSM injectors
all SS oil feed/return lines
custom catch can/ crankcase breather
lifetime warranty axels  :icon_razz: (gotta love breaking these)

Umm... there is a bunch of other lil things.. maybe.

PICTURES!!
(http://img165.exs.cx/img165/8854/img04644yo.jpg)
(http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/1970/myrex0147ie.jpg)
(http://img107.exs.cx/img107/9933/myrex0160hs.jpg)
(http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/882/img01000mg.jpg)
(http://img139.echo.cx/img139/3418/img00120cu.jpg)
(http://img83.echo.cx/img83/6361/img01101ot.jpg)
(http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5070/img12881ro.jpg)
(http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/7508/img13096rn.jpg)
(http://img176.exs.cx/img176/751/img06608og.jpg)
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f29/d16rice/8.jpg)

Yep... this is my baby. Bought it knowing nothing... now I consider myself extremely knowledgeable. I think owning a GS will be quite a bit easier.
Title: Re: My Turbo CRX
Post by: My Name Is Dave on April 24, 2006, 11:10:58 PM
You painted that at home? Where do you live, the Sikkens factory?
Title: Re: My Turbo CRX
Post by: pantablo on April 24, 2006, 11:43:34 PM
VERY nice. Love the wheels (just bought a set myself). did you paint the wheels from white to bronze? I ask because they come both white or bronze (as well as others, I'm sure you know).

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v505/pantablo/0025.jpg)
all stock otherwise.
Title: Re: My Turbo CRX
Post by: LimaXray on April 25, 2006, 07:00:33 AM
Hey man thats very nice.  It looks like you did a good job.  I know exactly what mean going from knowing nothing to knowing a whole shaZam! load by tackling a project like this.  So, you wanna come paint my car? :laugh: :laugh:

Sorry, I gotta ask all the good turbo geek questions:
What CR are you running?
What peak boost do you run on pump/race/home brew gas?
Where and what's your power band like / have you dyno'd it?
What's your AFR like on the top end?
Am I right to guess Turboedit lets you modify the stock fuel tables? LUCKY!
Is that an aluminum or cast block? (sorry I know nothing about Hondas)
I'm guessing that's an aluminum head

But thats really cool, turbo cars are shaZam!!  :thumb:
Title: Re: My Turbo CRX
Post by: Jake D on April 25, 2006, 07:08:50 AM
I like it.  And you resisted the temptation to make it tacky.  No vinyl graphics, no GT wing, no manufacturer stickers, etc. 
Have you done anything to the interior?  Some red and black Bride seats would look good.
Also, no body kit!  Very nice.  Just clean JDM style.

Good work. 

Title: Re: My Turbo CRX
Post by: 3imo on April 25, 2006, 07:14:59 AM
Great work  :thumb:

I am a DIY fanatic.  was that a one step paint job?  I plan on spraying my pick up after I get the engine back in.

two step paint is gonna cost me an arm and a leg.

I always wanted a CRX. looks like you've done right by her.
Title: Re: My Turbo CRX
Post by: weaselnoze on April 25, 2006, 07:29:19 AM
very clean  :thumb: are you on jdmcivic.com?
Title: Re: My Turbo CRX
Post by: CRXDrew on April 25, 2006, 12:53:41 PM
I'll try to knock out all the questions in one post.

Quote from: My Name Is Dave on April 24, 2006, 11:10:58 PM
You painted that at home? Where do you live, the Sikkens factory?

Nope  :icon_mrgreen:. I just painted in my garage. Entirely preped. No pics of when I painted my car but here is my garage when I painted my friend's LS:
(http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/3257/img00746hx.jpg)

Quote from: pantablo on April 24, 2006, 11:43:34 PM
did you paint the wheels from white to bronze?

Yep painted from white to Bronze. Duplicolor wheel paint is amazing btw. Some of the highest quality rattle can paint I've ever used.

Quote from: Jake D on April 25, 2006, 07:08:50 AM
Have you done anything to the interior?

I pride myself with having an EXTREMELY clean OEM interior. Aside from a boost guage and oil pressure guage that replaced my center vents, a nice shift knob, shift boot, decent radio, speakers, and small tasteful sub, the interior is stock. I had ripped seats when i bought the car but they have since been repaired/ pieced together from various CRX's that I have encountered. For example... my drivers seat: oem top, oem passenger bottom foam from another car, oem driver bottom cover from another different car. No flashy seats for me. People can hardly believe I own stock seats.

Quote from: LimaXray on April 25, 2006, 07:00:33 AM
Hey man thats very nice.  It looks like you did a good job.  I know exactly what mean going from knowing nothing to knowing a whole shaZam! load by tackling a project like this.  So, you wanna come paint my car? :laugh: :laugh:

Sorry, I gotta ask all the good turbo geek questions:
What CR are you running?
What peak boost do you run on pump/race/home brew gas?
Where and what's your power band like / have you dyno'd it?
What's your AFR like on the top end?
Am I right to guess Turboedit lets you modify the stock fuel tables? LUCKY!
Is that an aluminum or cast block? (sorry I know nothing about Hondas)
I'm guessing that's an aluminum head

But thats really cool, turbo cars are shaZam!!  :thumb:


9.9 to 1 CR
10lbs peack boost on pump gas
Powerband is nice off boost due to compression but screams after 4k. 4k I get full boost and right around 4.5k I get vtec.
Under load and full boost my AFR is around 12ish... been a while since I had the Wideband in the car.
Turboedit allows me to modify fuel tables, timing, launch control, boostcut, injector size, vtec activation (i still have to update my setup to use this), and I also have the option to do realtime data logging.
Honda blocks for the most part (accept an older prelude i think) are all aluminum blocks with steel sleeves.
You are correct with it being an aluminum head.

Quote from: 3imo on April 25, 2006, 07:14:59 AM
Great work  :thumb:

I am a DIY fanatic.  was that a one step paint job?  I plan on spraying my pick up after I get the engine back in.

two step paint is gonna cost me an arm and a leg.

I always wanted a CRX. looks like you've done right by her.

Definitely a single stage black. People are always talking about how awesome multistage paint jobs are but the fact remains that even some of the most respected hot rod builders use single stage (for black atleast) Black for some reason comes out beautifully with a single stage. Its just very important to wetsand and polish out any imperfections.

Quote from: weaselnoze on April 25, 2006, 07:29:19 AM
very clean  :thumb: are you on jdmcivic.com?

Never been to jdmcivic.com. I primarily hangout on honda-tech.com, homemadeturbo.com, d-series.org, turbod16.com, ef-honda.com and a few others that I visit infrequently.

:cheers:
Title: Re: My Turbo CRX
Post by: 3imo on April 25, 2006, 01:08:26 PM
even thought to filter the fans.  cool setup. you can bring down the garage door and sit it on the fans. good Idea.

I painted my first car at 17. it was single stage spray job, black on an RX7. 

My hat goes off to you on the CRX..man.  :bowdown:  that spray job is awesome.
Title: Re: My Turbo CRX
Post by: buzz on April 25, 2006, 01:37:35 PM
Most definantly.

Do you ever frequent sohchonda.com? The site is semi down at the moment, but I looks as though you would fit in well.

I see you used the hf manifold. I used the same, but with a rhb5 , t-bird, turbine in a rhb5, probe, exuast housing.

Title: Re: My Turbo CRX
Post by: CRXDrew on April 25, 2006, 01:40:40 PM
Quote from: buzz on April 25, 2006, 01:37:35 PM
Most definantly.

Do you ever frequent sohchonda.com? The site is semi down at the moment, but I looks as though you would fit in well.

I see you used the hf manifold. I used the same, but with a rhb5 , t-bird, turbine in a rhb5, probe, exuast housing.



I believe sohchonda.com was one of the sites that formed after the orginal "dseries.com/org" was taken apart. I recall a time when there was peace in the dseries universe then ppl were fighting over control of the site. Now there are many derived sites. I have been there before but I don't frequent it. Ported HF mani is the way to go.
Title: Re: My Turbo CRX
Post by: CRXDrew on April 25, 2006, 01:57:33 PM
Quote from: 3imo on April 25, 2006, 01:08:26 PM
even thought to filter the fans.  cool setup. you can bring down the garage door and sit it on the fans. good Idea.

I painted my first car at 17. it was single stage spray job, black on an RX7. 

My hat goes off to you on the CRX..man.  :bowdown:  that spray job is awesome.

Fans are key, and a charcoal mask. Lots of breaks were needed to make sure I didn't fry my brain.  :o Here is that intedgra finished. Name all the shaved stuff you see ;).

hmm... i'll edit later when imageshack is back up... I tried to host my pics but they appear to be down
Title: Re: My Turbo CRX
Post by: 12thmonkey on April 25, 2006, 02:05:08 PM
Wow.  :o

That's a good looking CRX, man. Very well done. And i'm with JakeD, thanks for not going overboard. And like just about everyone else, i'm crazy impressed with the garage paint job. Had you painted anything else before you tackled the civic?

When i turned 15, i bought a 1970 VW Beetle for $300. i spent the next year and a half (didn't make in time for my 16th birthday) customizing/restoring it. i did pretty much everything myself...but i never got the balls to try and spray it myself. i wanted to...but i wussed out. It's always great to see stuff people did themselves turn out so good.  :thumb:

Thankfully, a friend of the family was a certified Mercedes Benz painter and gave me the hook up.  ;)
Title: Re: My Turbo CRX
Post by: RVertigo on April 25, 2006, 02:16:10 PM
Wow... That's a really nice home job...

And...  Thanks for painting the white wheels.   :thumb:
Title: Re: My Turbo CRX
Post by: buzz on April 25, 2006, 03:34:40 PM
Yeah I was one of the origanal from the hybrid site that was there for the origanal dseries site. I tried hard to keep it in one peice, but I found that it wasn't possible. A few of use gathered the more 'technically inclined' and created the semiclosed site that is sohchonda.

We had to keep it a semi closed site to keep the post whoreing down. It got pretty bad with every kid and ricer, squid, buying a honda then pimping it out and demanding respect. That way our site wouldn't split up.  I have lost four Honda sites I have been a member of in the past 10 years.

You seem to pretty talented so I would like to formally invite you to visit. PM me as Buzz.

To the mods of this site:

I am sorry for going so off topic, but there is a lack of real technically inclined people in the Honda tuning world. When you see somebody it is nice to talk.

Please take care of this great site. It has taught me more about my motorcycle and motorcycling in general than I could ever learn from local riders. People are fickle and can break down a great site. A group of people with a common goal is a power force. Keep this one strong.
Title: Re: My Turbo CRX
Post by: 94suzuki500 on April 25, 2006, 03:40:56 PM
nice car, my friend has a 91 honda civic si, not that the si, black and he painted it in his garage.  his garage looked just like that when he painted it, seriously though he had the shelves and evertyhing in it.  nice car, very clean.  i didnt see anyone ask but whats it run in the quarter mile?
Title: Re: My Turbo CRX
Post by: CRXDrew on April 25, 2006, 05:16:43 PM
Quote from: 94suzuki500 on April 25, 2006, 03:40:56 PM
i didnt see anyone ask but whats it run in the quarter mile?

this is gonna sounds retarded but my modified Starion Intercooler broke the only time I've been to the track. I have the end tank pipes JBwelded to the main end tanks. They ended up crackin at somepoint and cracking completely my 2nd run. I ran a 14.5 with no boost for the last couple hundred feet.  :icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: My Turbo CRX
Post by: CRXDrew on April 26, 2006, 11:07:13 PM
Here is a pic of my friend's integra that I painted.  8)

(http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/8839/dsc01098fixed5wc.jpg)

Anyone.. pablo in particular:

point out all the shaving/smoothing on the car? Note: its a 94 LS
Title: Re: My Turbo CRX
Post by: CasiUSA on April 27, 2006, 01:19:28 PM
Quote from: CRXDrew on April 26, 2006, 11:07:13 PM
Here is a pic of my friend's integra that I painted.  8)

(http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/8839/dsc01098fixed5wc.jpg)

Anyone.. pablo in particular:

point out all the shaving/smoothing on the car? Note: its a 94 LS

From what I can tell:
Emblems shaved
Front License plate mounts removed and smoothed
Updated 99-01 Front bumper/headlight assembly
Type R Lower lip (?)
And side mouldings removed
Very nice clean Job :thumb:

Was I close? :dunno_white:
Had a 99 GS-R 4 Door myself.  ;)
Title: Re: My Turbo CRX
Post by: CasiUSA on April 27, 2006, 01:22:44 PM
(http://freepgs.com/casicua/110706933VPrXxN_ph.jpg)

That's the last picture of the 'Teg with my GS before some F*cker stole and wrecked the car.  :mad:
Title: Re: My Turbo CRX
Post by: 12thmonkey on April 27, 2006, 01:24:29 PM
Quote from: CRXDrew on April 26, 2006, 11:07:13 PM
Here is a pic of my friend's integra that I painted.  8)

(http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/8839/dsc01098fixed5wc.jpg)

Nice. i am still impressed. You definitely have skills.  :thumb:
Title: Re: My Turbo CRX
Post by: CRXDrew on April 27, 2006, 04:32:44 PM
Quote from: CasiCUA on April 27, 2006, 01:19:28 PM

From what I can tell:
Emblems shaved
Front License plate mounts removed and smoothed
Updated 99-01 Front bumper/headlight assembly
Type R Lower lip (?)
And side mouldings removed
Very nice clean Job :thumb:

Was I close? :dunno_white:
Had a 99 GS-R 4 Door myself.  ;)


Well done... you missed the side mirrors though. ;) 98 spec or Type R of all years.  :cheers:
Title: Re: My Turbo CRX
Post by: pantablo on April 27, 2006, 05:27:06 PM
CasiCUA beat me to it. I would have missed the Type R stuff though-not up to date on that stuff. the mirrors look identical to mine though (97) and my wife's (98).

very nice work.
Title: Re: My Turbo CRX
Post by: CRXDrew on April 27, 2006, 05:48:51 PM
Quote from: pantablo on April 27, 2006, 05:27:06 PM
the mirrors look identical to mine though (97) and my wife's (98).

Hmmm.... I dunno.. thats what I was told.. I didn't really care to confirm.. I was just painting em.

Maybe the other smooth face ones are just on LS's? I know the R got those in all years for a fact.
Title: Re: My Turbo CRX
Post by: pantablo on April 27, 2006, 06:42:00 PM
also in addition to the A emblem being shaved the embossed INTEGRA on the front was filled. nice.
Title: Re: My Turbo CRX
Post by: CRXDrew on April 27, 2006, 10:00:42 PM
Quote from: pantablo on April 27, 2006, 06:42:00 PM
also in addition to the A emblem being shaved the embossed INTEGRA on the front was filled. nice.

Its there... on the driver side. (I really wanted to shave it though... I kinda think its ugly and takes away from the smoothness and flowing lines of the car)
Title: Re: My Turbo CRX
Post by: pantablo on April 27, 2006, 10:31:20 PM
hmm, cant make it out in the pics...I agree. better left off for a cleaner look...
Title: Re: My Turbo CRX
Post by: Unnamed on April 28, 2006, 06:38:06 AM
I would have loved to take a decent car and have fun with it but budet problems got in the way. Then, about a month ago, I realized I could do the same thing on a bike for about a tenth of the cost. So thats the direction I'm headed  :)

Very nice car though, I like the paint.
Title: Re: My Turbo CRX
Post by: CRXDrew on March 03, 2007, 11:29:56 PM
So I had removed the turbo setup from my car last summer and saved some cash. I also autox'ed the hell out of it in NA form Anyway... After a few months NA I realized that it was time to start from scratch and get some boost again.

89 CRX si
A6/Z6 mini-me
Holset H1C
Bullseyepower SS turbine housing
made my own log manifold
all McMasterCarr oil lines
.055 oil restrictor
45 degree steel bung welded to pan
half radiator
31x9x3 ebay IC
3" DP
3" exhaust
2 dynomax race mufflers
   -car sounds deep, a lil loud. gonna put a 3in turbo muffler when it warms up and i have time
2.5" cold side pipes
2.25" hot side pipes
XSpower external wastegate
ebay RFL
MBC
all radiator hose or silicone couplers
all t bolted
OBD0 w/ TurboEdit
460cc RX7 injectors
Ostrich
slipping pepboys clutch (Ordered a 6puck ceramic, heavy duty pressure plate today actually :))
rollin on winter tires

Currently on 7psi because tune isn't quite finished and the clutch wouldn't hold it anyway  :P

pics
(http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/4412/fmicxj7.jpg)
(http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/2893/dsc04175wy6.jpg)
(http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/8692/dsc04176we4.jpg)
(http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/1612/dsc04177er6.jpg)
(http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/3907/fmic2lb9.jpg)

I easily made 10psi before 4k.... BEP housing + Holset = big ass turbo with no lag  ;)
Title: Re: My Turbo CRX
Post by: ixolas on March 04, 2007, 12:59:39 AM
Those are some nice looking cars.  What are your 1/4 mi times?  and rough hp at normal settings?  I've got almost all the parts for my turbo upgrade sitting in my closet but instead of finishing it i bought my gs.   :dunno_white:  it can wait a little longer. 

I'm going with the basics to get it going.  Here is what i have so far:
a stock ka block and head,
t3/t4  50 trim,
ssautochrome top mount manifold (only temporary until I get a better one welded)
duel dsm side mount intercoolers, 
tial 40mm wastegate,
generic bov (but thinking of using a modified dsm),
500 cc injectors,
walbro high flow fuel pump,
300zx high flow fuel filter,
300zx 80mm maf sensor.  I think thats all i have so far.
Still missing a few key components to get it put on and running though.
Here it is:
(http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/781000-781999/781081_78_full.jpg)
(http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/781000-781999/781081_75_full.jpg)
(http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/781000-781999/781081_77_full.jpg)
(http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/781000-781999/781081_76_full.jpg)
Title: Re: My Turbo CRX
Post by: ledfingers on March 04, 2007, 02:24:42 AM
i'm not much for fwd, but i was doing the same thing with my first car when it got totaled. I had a 72 BMW 2002, e21 5spd, bilstein HDs, H&R's, built strut tower braces, gutted the carpet and center console, e21 recaro buckets, i had a set of 22/19 adjustable track bars, a pair of Hella driving lights mounted up front, and i had just tore down an e30 I motor to rebuild and install when i got rearended, insurance totaled the car, i bought it back and sold it for what i had in it. I've been kicking myself ever since for not just fixing it and building a screaming track car. I hadn't started ordering parts for the imotor so i could have very easily built a good turbo motor, but alas, people suck.
Title: Re: My Turbo CRX
Post by: CRXDrew on March 04, 2007, 04:04:25 AM
Nice 240. Reminds me of my friend's. He is making 300/300ish tq on his stock KA.... looks for pictures...

Don't have any 1/4 times... not really a big straight line fan so I don't get out to that kinda track often if ever. I should easily be in the low 13's provided I get traction. Roasting 4th gear on the highway leads me to believe with slicks my car would be decent at the strip.

Summer Autox w/ buddy's 240
(http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/6498/n2601344307560934045tt3.jpg)
Me pulling 3rd place in my class.
(http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/3411/yfts4.jpg)
Title: Re: My Turbo CRX
Post by: CRXDrew on March 04, 2007, 04:12:09 AM
Quote from: ixolas on March 04, 2007, 12:59:39 AM
ssautochrome top mount manifold (only temporary until I get a better one welded)

DO NOT USE THAT MANIFOLD. I can tell you from first hand experience (on another friend's 240 that I made the downpipe for).... that manifold will position the turbo VERY POORLY. It will place it extremely close to your master cylinder and make the downpipe sit extremely close to the MC as well. It is just not worth it... you will have to get a new mani anyway... and then waste money on a dp that you will later realize needs to be redone with the mani.

Actually.... lucky for you I have a picture of this retarded fitment... GT32 w/ an SSautocrap mani.
(http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/2072/hdpi5.jpg)


Custom is truly the way to go. I made my log manifold for less than 100 in materials.
Title: Re: My Turbo CRX
Post by: cuda_06 on March 04, 2007, 08:19:57 AM
 :thumb:  and another   :thumb: for the autocross.
Title: Re: My Turbo CRX
Post by: ixolas on March 04, 2007, 11:22:20 AM
Quote from: CRXDrew on March 04, 2007, 04:12:09 AM
DO NOT USE THAT MANIFOLD. I can tell you from first hand experience (on another friend's 240 that I made the downpipe for).... that manifold will position the turbo VERY POORLY. It will place it extremely close to your master cylinder and make the downpipe sit extremely close to the MC as well. It is just not worth it... you will have to get a new mani anyway...

I know... its a crappy manifold but it was given to me after a friend used it as a temp mani until I made him his.  I just say I have it so in my mind it seems like its almost ready to be put on when actually I have allot more time to invest into it.

Oh ya I forgot to mention, but i'm sure yous guys can tell, I have a little suspension work done also.  Just lowering springs, full poly bushings, strut bars, and 300zx brakes up front.  Coilovers are on the list of things needed also.