I sent Jardine an email yesterday inquiring about the Jardine exhaust for the GS500F and I got a reply back this moring saying this "Just give us a call. We have those in stock now ready to go."
I find that hard to believe I keep on thinking he might think I'm talking about something different. I tried calling but he was away from his office and I'm on the way to Vegas.
Can one of you guys double check this? I would like to have verified this first for you guys. I'll call again when I'm the road and order if it's real.
Here's the number to Jardine (951)739-5900 x247
I hope it's correct though, I've read on here that it was supposed to be done at the end of the month. :cheers:
holy crap, they told me the end of june. if this is true and the cbr is sold tomarrow this will be orderd monday.
and they told me at the end of may, i think they just want to putyou on a list
I called from the road yesterday and they did in fact have like 30 to sell. They had already sold 25 and he said he had 6 left. I placed my order and will be recieving it monday. :flipoff: :laugh:
He says the next wave will be in 3-4 weeks.
dude thas fu@##$ awsome :o im ordering mine right away!!!!!!!!!!!!!! from pipe city. hey what are you going to do for jetting?
So am I the first on the board to have received their Jardine exhaust for the 04's and up? :icon_mrgreen: Too bad I won't be able to install until this weeked at the earliest.
do they only have titanium for now or is that all they will have?
Quote from: afplayboy18 on June 19, 2006, 03:12:58 PM
do they only have titanium for now or is that all they will have?
Titanium? Is that what I got. :dunno_white: I don't remember his telling me it was titanium, but then again I was on the road and I just ordered it. All I asked was wether it was really meant for the 04+ and that it would fit.
Well the whole box is extremely light. I almost thought they didn't include everything. I'll weigh the can for you guys if that helps.
EDIT: I just checked and I don't see anywhere that says it's titanium. It's stanless steel.
how much does the exhaust sell for?
I paid 375 + tax and shipping. I'm sure it will be cheaper once the retailers have a chance to stock them.
any pics?
I'll take some tonight when I get home.
yea , any picture. i want thtem now!!!!!
I got some preliminary weights for you guys if you are interested in that stuff.
The can is 4.25 lbs
The mid pipe is 1.25 lbs
The last section of pipes is 4.25 lbs.
I'll weight this on my home scale and then weigh the the stock after on the same scale for comparison.
the stock is soooo f%$king heavy, i'd say at least 15 lbs or more, just the can
Damn, that's a nice chunk of savings right there if that's correct.
bro u defenetly got to post pics, clips and the jets u use to rejet.
Quote from: leo on June 17, 2006, 12:12:04 PM
I called from the road yesterday and they did in fact have like 30 to sell. They had already sold 25 and he said he had 6 left. I placed my order and will be recieving it monday. :flipoff: :laugh:
He says the next wave will be in 3-4 weeks.
30 - 25 = 6 ???? :bs: :laugh: j/k. One thing is for sure it will look a lot better than the stock exhaust!!!!!
I just said 30, he didn't say that.. He did say he had 6 to sell and that he sold about 25. I just didn't say "about" earlier and I just rounded the numbers. I was just trying to get the general idea out and I wasn't as concerned with hardcore specifics. Plus I was in a rush. :icon_rolleyes:
Sorry for the crappy pics. The garage is pitch black and I only used a 640x480 resolution.
(http://www.omslaw.net/gs500/jardin/1.JPG)
(http://www.omslaw.net/gs500/jardin/2.JPG)
(http://www.omslaw.net/gs500/jardin/3.JPG)
(http://www.omslaw.net/gs500/jardin/4.JPG)
(http://www.omslaw.net/gs500/jardin/5.JPG)
yo it looks nice cant wait to hear it
that's beautiful!
Looks Awsome! :thumb:
Just to confirm the other weights of the stock system, can you weigh that for us too pleeeeeaaaassse :icon_mrgreen:
Quote from: leo on June 19, 2006, 03:20:46 PM
Quote from: afplayboy18 on June 19, 2006, 03:12:58 PM
do they only have titanium for now or is that all they will have?
Titanium? Is that what I got. :dunno_white: I don't remember his telling me it was titanium, but then again I was on the road and I just ordered it. All I asked was wether it was really meant for the 04+ and that it would fit.
Well the whole box is extremely light. I almost thought they didn't include everything. I'll weigh the can for you guys if that helps.
EDIT: I just checked and I don't see anywhere that says it's titanium. It's stanless steel.
oh ok...only reason i ask is cuz on their website: http://jardine.rideshop.com/catalog/default.php?cPath=3_25_31 when i look at suzuki i only see the RT-1 and they only have the gs500f listed under "RT-1 Titanium"
im guessing you didnt get the RT-1...i dont know...???
After I get it installed I'll try my best to get a sound clip and if possible maybe a sound clip of the stock sound and then of the Jardine in place. I'll try to get the best quality I can, I think my cousin has a camera I can use.
Also I'll get the weight of the stock system.
Cheers mate! :thumb:
also can't wait to hear you DIY. If this is an easy to install product which I assume it is, you might be the first of many to make the switch.
And you can have that warm fuzzy feel of being the leader of the GS Jardine pack :bowdown:
Quote from: afplayboy18 on June 19, 2006, 09:53:02 PM
Quote from: leo on June 19, 2006, 03:20:46 PM
Quote from: afplayboy18 on June 19, 2006, 03:12:58 PM
do they only have titanium for now or is that all they will have?
Titanium? Is that what I got. :dunno_white: I don't remember his telling me it was titanium, but then again I was on the road and I just ordered it. All I asked was wether it was really meant for the 04+ and that it would fit.
Well the whole box is extremely light. I almost thought they didn't include everything. I'll weigh the can for you guys if that helps.
EDIT: I just checked and I don't see anywhere that says it's titanium. It's stanless steel.
oh ok...only reason i ask is cuz on their website: http://jardine.rideshop.com/catalog/default.php?cPath=3_25_31 when i look at suzuki i only see the RT-1 and they only have the gs500f listed under "RT-1 Titanium"
im guessing you didnt get the RT-1...i dont know...???
I see where you are getting at, maybe we are just reading it wrong but it looks like that. Or they just haven't updated their site properly.
Here's what my packing slip says. Part number 18-4615-123-02
Description:
2:1 Exhuast - S/S, Alum, Race, Suzuki GS500F 04-06
So I'm guessing the can is aluminum and the rest of the pipes are stainless steel.
And for those that need it, like me :), they put in instructions for swapping this out.
Quote from: galahs on June 19, 2006, 09:59:27 PM
Cheers mate! :thumb:
also can't wait to hear you DIY. If this is an easy to install product which I assume it is, you might be the first of many to make the switch.
And you can have that warm fuzzy feel of being the leader of the GS Jardine pack :bowdown:
:cheers: :) I'm sure this is probably the easiest mod to do on the bike. That's assuming everything fits properly which I hope it does. I'll come back singing their praises.
its a stainles stell can and titenium pipes i called the company
Woo hooooo!
Titanium Pipes as well. I'm in love! :thumb:
Can't you install it now? I can't wait till the weekend :cry:
Quote from: nick_villan on June 19, 2006, 10:05:35 PM
its a stainles stell can and titenium pipes i called the company
Really? Damn shows how much I know. I even held the pipes in my hand :laugh:
Have you put it on yet :icon_mrgreen:
yours sincerley
Impatient :icon_mrgreen:
Quote from: galahs on June 19, 2006, 09:59:27 PM
also can't wait to hear you DIY. If this is an easy to install product which I assume it is, you might be the first of many to make the switch.
Don't forget that a rejet should go along with a aftermarket pipe, or you run the risk of running pretty lean
yea is on yet :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: i want to see it on
Not yet guys. :laugh: I'm waiting for the lunchbox to arrive, should be here today or tomorrow as well as the jets I ordered. I hope to get it all installed on Saturday. Hopefully the video will be that day or Sunday.
You guys think you are impatient, imagine me everyday going into the garage and seeing it on the floor. I can have it on in a few minutes, but nooo stupid me doesn't want to run lean on the way to work.
Hmm, how bad would it be to just throw on the exhaust, no jetting and stock filter. Of course I would drive it easy as if I'm breaking it in. :dunno_white: Or am I being bad thinking that? :icon_twisted:
It's already Wed. just wait and do it right the first time only 3 days more togo.
Yeah that's the smart thing to do.
no way do it now.
Quote from: bargovic on June 21, 2006, 03:26:03 PM
no way do it now.
Seriously I agree with Bar
(insert lil' kids voices) do it! do it! do it!
Haha yeah j/p i guess you might as well wait. Can't wait to see it when you're done though. :thumb:
Oh and do they sell the headers and mid pipe by itself? Or do you just have to pay for the whole kit?
I don't know, but I bought the whole kit.
It's here on EBAY. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-03-06-Suzuki-GS500-Jardine-RT-1-full-exhaust-system_W0QQitemZ4653546816QQihZ002QQcategoryZ35596QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
damn its on ebay, how can you loose
Quote from: leo on June 21, 2006, 02:35:23 PM
Hmm, how bad would it be to just throw on the exhaust, no jetting and stock filter. Of course I would drive it easy as if I'm breaking it in. :dunno_white: Or am I being bad thinking that? :icon_twisted:
I asked that when I put on my Vance and Hines full system.. everyone said that I would run lean.. DONT DO IT with our rejet... Well.. :) I did it.. I ran it for 3 days like that.. pulled the plugs and they actually look a bit rich.. I still ordered a DynoJet kit I just havent got it yet :thumb: But so far w/o the kit.. my V&H has made my bottom end suck and I notice no difference other than it sould like a street and trail bike now :( Im not quite diggin the loud pipe
Quote from: scottpA_GS on June 21, 2006, 06:21:31 PM
Quote from: leo on June 21, 2006, 02:35:23 PM
Hmm, how bad would it be to just throw on the exhaust, no jetting and stock filter. Of course I would drive it easy as if I'm breaking it in. :dunno_white: Or am I being bad thinking that? :icon_twisted:
I asked that when I put on my Vance and Hines full system.. everyone said that I would run lean.. DONT DO IT with our rejet... Well.. :) I did it.. I ran it for 3 days like that.. pulled the plugs and they actually look a bit rich.. I still ordered a DynoJet kit I just havent got it yet :thumb: But so far w/o the kit.. my V&H has made my bottom end suck and I notice no difference other than it sould like a street and trail bike now :( Im not quite diggin the loud pipe
That sucks that you are not enjoying it. Do they have silencer for it? That might help a bit.
do it now or the gs gets it
I have a Jardine system on my track GS. ('91) It is the only full system I have put on a GS (Supertrapp, Yosh, V&H) that allows access to the oil filter and oil drain plug. All the other systems require you to drop the exhaust to change the oil and filter.
I assume that the new system for the late model bikes retains this feature, at least I hope so.
BTW the Jardine is the quietist of the four that I have run.
Yeah I also wonder, if you can change the oil without dropping the pipes? :dunno_white:
Quote from: scottpA_GS on June 21, 2006, 06:21:31 PM
Quote from: leo on June 21, 2006, 02:35:23 PM
Hmm, how bad would it be to just throw on the exhaust, no jetting and stock filter. Of course I would drive it easy as if I'm breaking it in. :dunno_white: Or am I being bad thinking that? :icon_twisted:
I asked that when I put on my Vance and Hines full system.. everyone said that I would run lean.. DONT DO IT with our rejet... Well.. :) I did it.. I ran it for 3 days like that.. pulled the plugs and they actually look a bit rich.. I still ordered a DynoJet kit I just havent got it yet :thumb: But so far w/o the kit.. my V&H has made my bottom end suck and I notice no difference other than it sould like a street and trail bike now :( Im not quite diggin the loud pipe
I agree with the street/trail bike part. I pulled the end cap insert out of my Laser and I thought it sounded good at first, but after further review it sounded like a off road bike. I just don't think a parallel twin sounds good loud unless you are racing it. I put the end cap back in and it is about 5db louder than stock wich I think is perfect. For real I think the biggest advantage to a pipe is looks. I mean 5 hp jetted and piped. :dunno_white: Not much to write home about, but the looks kick ass. :thumb: Oh yeah, I can change the oil on mine with out touching the exhaust.
5 hp of 35 is 15%. A 15% gain of hp on my last car would have given me 45 hp. Not bad. :) At least that's what I'm telling myself.
Quote from: leo on June 21, 2006, 08:00:11 PM
5 hp of 35 is 15%. A 15% gain of hp on my last car would have given me 45 hp. Not bad. :) At least that's what I'm telling myself.
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Its all about percentages there's no point in hoping to get 15-20hp (example) from a bolt on part for a machine that makes 35hp a 15% raise in performance is a pretty good step up for the GS any more and you may as well save your money and by a more powerful bike :thumb: :cheers:
why? i can out ride everone i know on my 500 so why get a larger bike, i would rather have a 60hp gs (work of course) the right set up the gs can out do some 750s if you knwo how to ride, which is what it comes down to.
wait so does that ebay thing mean that starcycle has the exhaust already?
Quote from: nick_villan on June 21, 2006, 10:28:39 PM
wait so does that ebay thing mean that starcycle has the exhaust already?
I'm guessing so. I don't think they can sell them if they didn't have them in stock.
i cant wait, i orderd my filter and jet kit already
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yea but a 5hp game on a bike is a pretty big step. you will fill it i'm pretty sure .
Quote from: FearedGS500 on June 22, 2006, 08:56:50 AM
yea but a 5hp game on a bike is a pretty big step. you will fill it i'm pretty sure .
I guess to be honset when I first did mine I could notice a bit more mid to upper rpm snap in the seat of my pants meter. Now after a good week of having finally jetted right the novelty has wore off and it still feels like an underpowered 500. I mean I still love a lot of things about the bike, just wish it had more power. My point on the pipe is it is as much an appearance mod as it is a performance mod because when you take 5% of a little, you still don't have a lot. ;)
so, uh... why isn't this put together and on the bike yet?
Because I suck at mechanic work. All I had to do was remove 4 little bolts that connect the headers to the head. SNAP!! I broke one so I've spent all day long trying to figure out how to get it out.
There's a little piece sticking out so I tried vice grips, then I dremeled a slot and tried a screwdriver and tomorrow I'm going to try a screw extracter. I've never used one so hopefully I don't screw it up more. If I can't tomorrow then I'm not sure what my next course of action will be. A bridge or cliff for my bike sounds like a good alternative.
for every one, soak it in plenty of wd-40 or other penatrating oil. overnight and all day this will help them come out with out breaking. i would like to sugest if you pull them out, throw them away, and replae with Stainless steel. wont rust and will not get stuck. just FYI
leo, worst case senario. you will have to drill it out, and then retap it with a larger threaded bolt. thisng that will help it get out
EZ out, (reversed drill bit) you just keep drilling and it will grab and pull it out. but you have to be very carefull to make sure you drill the bolt out, and not drill another hole in it.
Quote from: rangerbrown on June 24, 2006, 06:21:29 PM
for every one, soak it in plenty of wd-40 or other penatrating oil. overnight and all day this will help them come out with out breaking. i would like to sugest if you pull them out, throw them away, and replae with Stainless steel. wont rust and will not get stuck. just FYI
Make sure you use a high quality stainless steel bolt (304 grade).
Cheaper ones are prone to heat cycling fatigue and may break.
good call, forgot the grade
I sent an email to the bloke on ebay with the Jardine exhaust system and he said only from 04-06 for this exhaust although the ad said 03-06 what difference is there in the exhaust system for the later models I thought they were all the same i know the fared ones have an oil cooler do they have a bigger oil pan as well and do we think that it will bolt onto the unfaired versions? :thumb: :cheers:
no it should work, i dont know why they dont say 89-2006 because it will fit
Quote from: galahs on June 24, 2006, 07:19:19 PM
Quote from: rangerbrown on June 24, 2006, 06:21:29 PM
for every one, soak it in plenty of wd-40 or other penatrating oil. overnight and all day this will help them come out with out breaking. i would like to sugest if you pull them out, throw them away, and replae with Stainless steel. wont rust and will not get stuck. just FYI
Make sure you use a high quality stainless steel bolt (304 grade).
Cheaper ones are prone to heat cycling fatigue and may break.
Stainless screws are much softer than a grade 8 capscrew.
then why are SS the standard replacement on exhaust
Because they are more easily available.
any pictures or sounds yet as I hoping to get one of these myself :thumb: :cheers:
Nope not yet. It will be a while. My bolt extracter broke off inside the header bolt. :laugh: My drill bits don't want to drill into it. So I have to get a better drill bit and hopefully that will drill into the extractor that's inside the bolt.
Quote from: rangerbrown on June 25, 2006, 08:31:52 PM
then why are SS the standard replacement on exhaust
Because they don't rust. But they aren't as strong.
How did the install go?
Just got mine in the mail last night and it looks amazing and by the looks will sound it too, cant wait for it to be on, hopefully install this weekend and dyno through the week riding by the following weekend good thing is I just found a tuner who just dynoed about 5 GS's in the past 2 months so he should know what he is doing :thumb: :cheers:
Quote from: leo on June 19, 2006, 10:10:02 PM
Quote from: nick_villan on June 19, 2006, 10:05:35 PM
its a stainles stell can and titenium pipes i called the company
Really? Damn shows how much I know. I even held the pipes in my hand :laugh:
Have to admit it looks like stainless to me but one way or the other I'm happy :thumb: :cheers:
What happened to the install pics?
Quote from: leo on June 26, 2006, 05:53:37 PM
Nope not yet. It will be a while. My bolt extracter broke off inside the header bolt. :laugh: My drill bits don't want to drill into it. So I have to get a better drill bit and hopefully that will drill into the extractor that's inside the bolt.
I know this is a little old, but figured I'd throw in my 0.02 about header bolts. First, the mild steel bolts get really hard and brittle from heat cycling. This makes them prone to snapping (I had a Ford Probe where a couple header studs actually snapped off from only the engine vibration they were so hard) and really really difficult to drill. I alway replace my bolts (any bolt really, not just header bolts) with 304 stainless bolts. They are plenty strong, and aren't used from the factory only because they are expensive, but they won't seeze or rust or give you any of the other problems mild steel bolts will give you. The one problem you may have with stainless header bolts is they may be more prone to backing out, so you have to stay on top of them and maybe safety wire them.
Next, to drill out a snapped header bolt, you will need a good hard drill bit, plenty of oil, and drill very slowly because that bolt is soooo freaking hard by this point. It will take a while to drill into it, but if you don't take your time, you'll just keep dulling bits.
Quote from: LimaXray on July 07, 2006, 08:53:48 AM
Quote from: leo on June 26, 2006, 05:53:37 PM
Nope not yet. It will be a while. My bolt extracter broke off inside the header bolt. :laugh: My drill bits don't want to drill into it. So I have to get a better drill bit and hopefully that will drill into the extractor that's inside the bolt.
I know this is a little old, but figured I'd throw in my 0.02 about header bolts. First, the mild steel bolts get really hard and brittle from heat cycling. This makes them prone to snapping (I had a Ford Probe where a couple header studs actually snapped off from only the engine vibration they were so hard) and really really difficult to drill. I alway replace my bolts (any bolt really, not just header bolts) with 304 stainless bolts. They are plenty strong, and aren't used from the factory only because they are expensive, but they won't seeze or rust or give you any of the other problems mild steel bolts will give you. The one problem you may have with stainless header bolts is they may be more prone to backing out, so you have to stay on top of them and maybe safety wire them.
Next, to drill out a snapped header bolt, you will need a good hard drill bit, plenty of oil, and drill very slowly because that bolt is soooo freaking hard by this point. It will take a while to drill into it, but if you don't take your time, you'll just keep dulling bits.
I'm still stuck with this. I'm tired of working on it. I'm going to have somebody weld on a stud and just use a nut to hold on the exhaust. Ghetto? Ask me if I care right now.
hell as long as it works, who cares