hi
im thinking about getting a busa next year and i have herd that they are very heavy making them harder to corner so how could i lighten it up and how light do u think i could make it
stock gsx 1300r 217kg
stock gs500f 180kg
stock gsx-r1000 166kg
thank you
The 'Busa is a sport tourer. It's built to do one thing very well: Go fast, preferrably in a straight line. Judging from what you posted here you wouldn't be too happy with that bike.
(Nor live too long, but that's another story.)
ghostrider managed to get his busa to handle well
and the second part dosnt really bother me
Quote from: deathlucky on August 24, 2006, 03:20:26 AM
ghostrider managed to get his busa to handle well
lols :laugh:
:icon_rolleyes: :icon_rolleyes: Welcome to the board Aussie Nick 8)
I have no idea how to get the Busa to handle better. And Ghost Rider is an amazing rider, but I wouldn't classify him as nimble.
If flickability is your priority, then I would say the GSXR-1000 is a better choice for you. Busas are basically drag bikes. They are heavy, powerful, and FAT. Good handling isn't a design priority for that model.
Have you tried trolling any Hayabusa-dedicated forums for tips?
From your previous threads I doubt you'd be able to live through the first corner ,, these things are seriously fast and scare most riders that have been riding big bikes all their life.It will handle alright in standard form but they will never handle like a gixxer because they aren't supposed to they were developed in a wind tunnel for a reason to be the fastest bike ever built and that's about it , oh and yes they are heavy but when your on one at speed it feels like your on a freight train and corners will scare you because they arrive a lot sooner than you think .
This thread has TF written all over it.
-Turd.
Quote from: Turd Ferguson on August 24, 2006, 05:22:39 AM
This thread has TF written all over it.
As in "Turd Ferguson" ? ;)
For makeing it lighter you would be better off trying a busa forum. Why not get an R1, GSXR 1K, 1000RR or Kawi's liter bike? They would handle much better than the busa and are plenty fast.
It' strange how no one has brought up in depth the "your gonna die" speech.
But if a newbie member was posting this, everyone would be all over them in a heartbeat. :dunno_white:
Quote from: annguyen1981 on August 24, 2006, 07:24:16 AM
It' strange how no one has brought up in depth the "your gonna die" speech.
But if a newbie member was posting this, everyone would be all over them in a heartbeat. :dunno_white:
Well, we pretty much have an idea about dl's educatibility in that field (he has made it plenty clear), so...
Its easy to lighten it ... several hundred pounds in fact ... You could lose the motor ... and with your local dealers "warranty work" that happens what ... 4-6 months ... yea ... :laugh: ... Sorry dont mean to laugh at your misery, but smiley is just to indicate that it was meant in jest, not as a serious statement.
Cool.
Srinath.
This guy has done/said nothing on this site to persuade me to ever give him an ounce of help. Sorry deathlucky.
I give it one day until this ends up in the Tard Farm...where it belongs.
-Turd.
Dude, you're gonna die. :cookoo:
Get a 600cc bike and when your abilities exceed the bike's abilities (which I don't think will ever happen), then ask your question again.
the busa already comes fairly light for what it is... Suzuki put a lot of effort into making it that way. I really dont think it's gonna get significantly lighter without going and buying something like magnesium wheels for BIG $$$$.
It seems like a really rash decision by a lot of people, but we all should keep in mind that people ride for different reasons and have different "dream" bikes.You may have wanted a busa for a long time. It that case- kudos for starting out on the GS and learning the ropes. There's still a lot to learn on the GS which will be much harder to learn on a bigger bike, but it's your decision.
The Busa really was made for one thing and one thing only: being the fastest in a straight line. For the extra power, you trade in a good amount of cornering ability. If you really like how the GS handles and want something more along the lines of that, look into the 600cc class, Ducati literbikes, the newer 1000cc Japanese bikes, or something in-between. I'd personally stay away from literbikes for now though.
If it were me, I'd lean more towards the 600cc class, gain a lot of experience on those, and then move up to a Ducati 9-something. There's no rush to jump right to the top.
For street riding, the busa is really only at home on the highway. Ride with some friends in the twisties & they'll smoke you (even a GS will). Ride with them on the highway and you might be faster, but it's only a matter of time before you get your license taken away because insane speeds is all the bike is really good for.
whatever you decide, just make sure it's really what you want. Any bike you purchase basically is-what-it-is. You wont be making any huge changes to it, especially weight-wise. Get the bike that best suits you and what you want to get out of riding, but keep in mind that eventually you'll want more than just raw acceleration in a straight line, and that you might feel more "comftorable" on a 600cc bike, but you'll never outgrow one. Comftorable is good. Even if moving up from just a GS, wanting a Busa but being concerned about its turning ability throws up a red flag to everyone because it could be a very rash decision. Good luck with whatever you decide! :cheers:
Buddha...all he's going to take out of that post is...
QuoteBusa go fast in straight line
-Turd.
Yeah, liter bikes and smaller will corner better, but then you can't say that you have the fastest bike in the world. But I just read an article in cycle worls and apparently the new Kawasaki zx14 is slightly faster, so for braging rights you may want to re think your decision. Either way, I'm all for getting the fastest bike possible. Either on will go from 0 to death in about 8.2 seconds. Enjoy.
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The Busa is like a muscle car, it's not meant to be light. It's meant to clobber everything else with brute horsepower.
That being said a modified GSXR can lay down more power per pound (or kg for metric folks) than a Busa.
god settal down all of you i was only thinking busa because i was sitting on 1 the other day and it felt very nice compaired to the sports bikes
l3uddha thank you for your help
Quote from: Turd Ferguson on August 25, 2006, 10:14:54 AM
Buddha...all he's going to take out of that post is...
QuoteBusa go fast in straight line
-Turd.
:laugh:
well..... I guess I have too much faith in the other members of this forum. :dunno_white:
the GSX-R 750 is something to keep in mind too. It's faster than the 600s and handles just as well. Just keep in mind that the 750 is a LOT of bike too.
I do think the BUSA is a crazy decision, but I'm just being civil about it; it's not my decision to make. Just keep your ears open to everyone's advice, think about it, and do what you feel is right. :thumb:
....and expect a lot of crap from other members. :icon_rolleyes:
Quote from: l3uddha on August 25, 2006, 02:23:11 PM
well..... I guess I have too much faith in the other members of this forum. :dunno_white:
It all depends on who we are talking about. If Pablo or Alpha told us that they were going to get a Busa...who would jump their asses about it? No one.
Search for deathlucky's posts and I doubt you'd be giving him advice on anything but what suit he should be burried in.
-Turd.
The GSXR 750 handles the same as the 600 but has more horsepower and only weighs 5 pounds more. That being said if all you want is raw power to go in a stright line, then the busa's for you. You only live once, it's your money / your life. Get what makes your happy.
The busa's marketed as a sport tourer in Europe, it's very comfy to ride. IF I was getting a busa. I'd throw some hard luggage on there and do a cross country trip.
I dont think the average rider could just jump on and make any critiscism about the handling or performance of a Hayabusa at full tilt or even notice any slight before and after mods. You would be too damn busy just hanging on to it. Those who can are either profesional test riders or GP racers.
x
Back in 05 Cycle World had an article about a 700 hp busa. Think I heard about 1000hp busa winning at bike week last year. Not sure if it was 1000hp or 800ish hp.
x
Quote from: TadMC on August 25, 2006, 03:22:20 PM
Quote from: CirclesCenter on August 25, 2006, 01:19:06 PM
The Busa is like a muscle car, it's not meant to be light. It's meant to clobber everything else with brute horsepower.
That being said a modified GSXR can lay down more power per pound (or kg for metric folks) than a Busa.
thats not nessicarily true, Stock Busa's have beaten many a modded gixxer1ks on the dynos
Ive been told this by people on this board, who work in motorcycle shops
per pound is the operative phrase.
Personally, I think DL would probably kill himself on either. I have serious reservations about the life expectancy anyone who, when complaining about instability at near-top speed, says that going slower isn't an option because he lives for the adrenaline rush.
Quote from: TadMC on August 25, 2006, 03:45:28 PM
my question is, can some actually ride an 800 hp bike
yea... there's a few psychopaths out there who are willing.
I remember reading in PB magazine the details of their "project" busa. they're trimming the excess weight and somehow getting it up to the 800+ HP range. Their goal is a busa that will do 250+ mph. you need that much HP on a bike to go that fast I guess.
there were a lot of little snags too- for example they had to put a piece of foam between the grip and front brake lever because the force of the wind at those speeds would actually apply the front brakes.
insane.
x
Quote from: l3uddha on August 26, 2006, 09:51:00 AM
Quote from: TadMC on August 25, 2006, 03:45:28 PM
my question is, can some actually ride an 800 hp bike
yea... there's a few psychopaths out there who are willing.
I remember reading in PB magazine the details of their "project" busa. they're trimming the excess weight and somehow getting it up to the 800+ HP range. Their goal is a busa that will do 250+ mph. you need that much HP on a bike to go that fast I guess.
there were a lot of little snags too- for example they had to put a piece of foam between the grip and front brake lever because the force of the wind at those speeds would actually apply the front brakes.
insane.
That sounds like a safety feature to me!
x
Yesterday on the way to church an 05 Busa pulled up to me and we were talking a little motorcycle talk at a few stoplights. THis guy looked in his early 30s and said he had been riding a long time. It was a VERY nice bike. When we were sharing the lane at the stop light, I was comparing our bikes and seeing how mine is so small compared to a Busa. He was telling me that he traded his GSXR1000 about a year ago for his Busa. He said the GSXR seemed too small for him. But to talk about handling, while I was riding behind him, It didn't seem that he had any trouble handling the corners. I actually would like one. But I won't get one, for many reasons.
Quote from: Turd Ferguson on August 25, 2006, 02:43:52 PM
Quote from: l3uddha on August 25, 2006, 02:23:11 PM
well..... I guess I have too much faith in the other members of this forum. :dunno_white:
It all depends on who we are talking about. If Pablo or Alpha told us that they were going to get a Busa...who would jump their asses about it? No one.
Search for deathlucky's posts and I doubt you'd be giving him advice on anything but what suit he should be burried in.
-Turd.
I'd Jump Alpha's ass. Only because I want one too.
Quote from: CirclesCenter on August 25, 2006, 01:19:06 PM
The Busa is like a muscle car, it's not meant to be light. It's meant to clobber everything else with brute horsepower.
That being said a modified GSXR can lay down more power per pound (or kg for metric folks) than a Busa.
Haha I quoted myself
Anyways, it's not total flat HP, it's HP divided by LBS like I said. Or Pounds per horsepower.
Quote from: TadMC on August 25, 2006, 03:45:28 PM
my question is, can some actually ride an 800 hp bike
I'd try!
Comming back from outside of Atl last night my wife and I were doing 90 mph on the interstate, posted was 70 mph. I was doing 80 but everybody was passing us and I was slowing down traffic so I sped up to the flow of traffic. And we were in the slow lane?! First time driving in that part of town. Guess they don't really pay attention to speed limits there.
When out of the blue to our left 7 busa's came flying by doing probally 120, they were wearing those armor vest, but without the armor. Oh and they were lane spliting at that speed :o.
Hawt... wait I mean... OMFG I'm a squid!!!!
Yeah maniacs.
But I have to admit I like the appeal.
Hey guys. I'm gonna buy a 'Busa!
Quote from: AlphaFire X5 on August 27, 2006, 06:51:17 AM
Hey guys. I'm gonna buy a 'Busa!
Not working at Safeway you're not. :laugh:
Quote from: Egaeus on August 27, 2006, 07:44:27 AM
Not working at Safeway you're not. :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
-Turd.
Quote from: CirclesCenter on August 27, 2006, 12:01:09 AM
Haha I quoted myself
Anyways, it's not total flat HP, it's HP divided by LBS like I said. Or Pounds per horsepower.
quoting yourself is LAME :laugh:
I wonder what the GS has for a power-to-weight ratio
Uhh...figure it out?
40 hp to 396lbm (dry).
40/396=0.1 hp/lb
-Turd.
Quote from: Turd Ferguson on August 27, 2006, 10:59:58 AM
Uhh...figure it out?
40 hp to 396lbm (dry).
40/396=0.1 hp/lb
-Turd.
That's the F model. The naked model weighs in around 376lb dry.
Quote from: AlphaFire X5 on August 27, 2006, 12:11:12 PM
Quote from: Turd Ferguson on August 27, 2006, 10:59:58 AM
Uhh...figure it out?
40 hp to 396lbm (dry).
40/396=0.1 hp/lb
-Turd.
That's the F model. The naked model weighs in around 376lb dry.
But has about 38 HP stock instead of 40....
Quote from: Egaeus on August 27, 2006, 12:12:16 PM
Quote from: AlphaFire X5 on August 27, 2006, 12:11:12 PM
Quote from: Turd Ferguson on August 27, 2006, 10:59:58 AM
Uhh...figure it out?
40 hp to 396lbm (dry).
40/396=0.1 hp/lb
-Turd.
That's the F model. The naked model weighs in around 376lb dry.
But has about 38 HP stock instead of 40....
Eh. Mine has 42 :)
Meh, so I was about 5% off. A REAL GS has about 40 hp. None of that "bone stock" crap! :laugh:
-Turd.
Superbike magazine in the UK tracked down a 260 mph busa a few months back.