I'm in the market for a new set of gauntlet gloves. These will be for both winter and track riding. If you can think of some stuff or have experience with some stuff, especially crash experience, let me
know. They must be all leather, and no Joe Rocket or Icon products. I don't trust the quality.
As for fit, I have fairly long and skinny fingers, but I wear a size L. My Alpinestars Octane S-Moto short cuff gloves fit me very well after a bit of break in. I also have fairly skinny wrists, 6.5" around at the widest point.
List of requirements:
- ALL LEATHER
- Rigid knuckle protection
- Dual wrist closure straps
- High quality (preferably dual/reinforced) stitching
- Little to no venting
- All black
Those are the must haves in a glove.
Nice features:
- Straight cut 1st and 2nd fingers, pre-curved palm and 3rd and 4th fingers
- 3rd and 4th finger bridge
- External seams
- Internal liner (warmth)
- Wrist padding/sliders
- Plenty of reinforcement
- Kangaroo leather
- Affordable!
I was reading a few reviews on MotorcycleGearReview.com about Alpinestars GP Plus gloves and there were more than a few people who said that the fingers burst apart in crashes. This is something I wouldn't expect from A*. Has anyone had any experience with this?
Has anyone heard of AXO gloves? What are they like? Control feel? Warmth? Fit?
Alpinestars SP-1 gloves (http://www.alpinestars.com/moto/gloves_sp1glove.html). I love them. Cheap from here (http://www.terra-powersports.com/product.aspx/sid/1/mfr/51/bmode/mfr/id/32644).
Quote from: roguegeek on September 20, 2006, 09:04:32 PM
Alpinestars SP-1 gloves (http://www.alpinestars.com/moto/gloves_sp1glove.html). I love them. Cheap from here (http://www.terra-powersports.com/product.aspx/sid/1/mfr/51/bmode/mfr/id/32644).
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Quote from: roguegeek on September 20, 2006, 09:04:32 PM
Alpinestars SP-1 gloves (http://www.alpinestars.com/moto/gloves_sp1glove.html). I love them. Cheap from here (http://www.terra-powersports.com/product.aspx/sid/1/mfr/51/bmode/mfr/id/32644).
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IIRC, you are one of the long lean dudes. They should fit you really well. The fingers tend to run a little long.
Check with Pablo, I think he's wrecked on the track in them. I remember him telling me they hold up well but the color starts to fade quickly. I've had mine about 5 months and I haven't noticed an issue with the fading. I'm sure Pantablo rides a lot more though.
Search Noob (http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=24950.0) ;)
Quote from: LPC2104 on September 21, 2006, 06:23:41 AM
Search Noob (http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=24950.0) ;)
Psh, that's just one type. I have a nice big list and was hoping to get some multiple brand info.
The SP-1s look pretty nice, I gotta admit.
yep, I crashed tested mine and they're fine. although it didnt look like my hands hit the ground much, just light scuffing. I fully trust them regardless. My SP-1's are 3-4 yrs old now and are great. Although as mentioned, they did fade quickly. I rode 9k miles in just over the first year and that was more than enough time, they faded well before that-maybe not 5 months old but not that much later.
I mean, look at them!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v505/pantablo/MM3I9310.jpg)
they're barely older than the jacket!
http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1=&L2=&L3=&L4=&item=CGC_720-4001_G
I prefer TourMaster/Cortech, but that's just me.
Quote from: scratch on September 21, 2006, 10:31:31 AM
http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1=&L2=&L3=&L4=&item=CGC_720-4001_G
I prefer TourMaster/Cortech, but that's just me.
Wow, those look interesting. Kangaroo palms / top, kevlar padding, fully perfed, etc. for less than $60. Are the fingers made of leather or kevlar though? I'm fairly certain Alpha isn't interested in gloves with textile pieces on the fingers :nono:
I love the Tourmaster Coldfront Carbons. I mean, our climates are very different in the winter, but I'm poor so I can't afford different summer gloves and these don't bother me even in the heat. I think they were like 70 bucks if I remember right.
Sr. Cummings
Quote from: scratch on September 21, 2006, 10:31:31 AM
http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1=&L2=&L3=&L4=&item=CGC_720-4001_G
I prefer TourMaster/Cortech, but that's just me.
The ones you linked were the Teknic Speedstar, which are fully perforated gloves. I'm looking for ones with little to no perforation. They seem great for summer gauntlets though.
How about the Cortech Scarab R.R.?
(http://www.tourmaster.com/images/products/h_q1_black_black.jpg)
I bought these AGVSport gloves on ebay, all leather, I have used them in track days but have not crash tested.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200002173840&category=50425
though I'm sure you're not interested...I found a joint a while back that sells fingerless gloves with 12" guantlets. They were made for falconers and have pretty heavy leather over them. I had them stained black and wear them over my standard gloves.
...I like really long gauntlets...
Quote from: makenzie71 on September 21, 2006, 09:56:25 PM
...I like really long gauntlets...
http://www.leeparksdesign.com/eshopprod_cat_530-3637_product_33201.DeerSports_Black_.htm
^damn skippy.
d4
Quote from: Wrecent_Wryder on September 22, 2006, 10:02:19 AM
That usually means I have to velcro the glove down enough so that I can't get it off again without opening the velcro up. Turns the whole thing into an operation. Just as well the bike likes to warm a bit.
thats sort of the point. you dont want them coming off...it should require removing the velcro again. thats how they'll protect your hands in the event of a crash.
and if you're having trouble with them fitting over your sleeves there's something else going on-maybe jacket too big, dunno. Mine slip over my sleeves just fine, always have.
Thicker winter gloves get some getting used to. I have just as good feel in my winters as my summers.
Wrecent - can you pull your sleeves up your arms? If so, they're too loose. They'll ride up your arms in a crash, too. I'm having mine tailored for that same reason.
I have the Cold Front Carbons too... When I first start wearing them, I feel like I'm wearing a triple-thick condom... :icon_confused:
But after a bit, you get used to them... Then when you switch back to thin gloves, it's weird. :icon_confused:
I wore my alpinestars SP-1 gloves today since it was in the low 40's this morning...I noticed that they don't grip as well as my alpinestars SP-S gloves. Just seems like they slip on my girps a lot easier, not sure if it was always like this or not, haven't worn them for a few months.
Alright, I want to hear y'alls opinions on the Cortech Coldfront Carbons. Control feel for sport riding? Warmth? Wear? Crash testing? Value?
d4
I had a hard time with the Coldfronts at first, because as Wrecent said, I couldn't feel shiza. But after I broke them in, they became very comfy. I wear them ALWAYS, and even though OR doesn't get Texas-like heat, I have worn them in 90 degrees-plus weather, as well as in the snow. I don't know if it's the gloves or poor circulation on my part, but occasionally my pinkies and ring fingers get numb in long rides.
Sr. Cummings :cheers:
Alright, I have a new question...
Should I go with the Cold Front Carbons, or get a regular race gauntet and wear liners with them?
And if you say the race gauntlets, what about waterproofing?
Waterproofing: http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/item.aspx?style=5285&department=106&Division=1
Maybe?
race gauntlets...keep them oiled. If you ride a lot in the wet or cold cary some latex gloves with you. If you need more waterproofing than that I'd suggest not trying to cross the atlantice anymore.
Alright, fuggit.
I'm going with race gauntlets, liners, and waterproofing latex over-gloves. I'll need regular gauntlets anyways for fall/spring sportriding and track days.
So now I need to decide between
Alpinestars SP-1
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/item.aspx?style=16658&department=106&Division=1
Cortech Scarab R.R.
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/item.aspx?style=18276&department=106&Division=1
Those of you with the SP-1s, I hear they run a size small. Truth?
I like the scarab better, personally. I never cared much for alpine's gloves or boots.
Quote from: AlphaFire X5 on October 21, 2006, 09:50:42 PM
Those of you with the SP-1s, I hear they run a size small. Truth?
Don't have SP-1's, but I'm sure they're made on the same tooling as my GP Plus's. Their size small fits just fine. Fingers fit tight, tight around the palm, velcro closures work fine, can't pull them off to save my life. The main measurement is from the base of the joint of the index finger over the face of the palm to the base of the joint of the pinky finger. (Widest measurement.) I'm about 3 3/8"
As to the fingers failing, I'm sure it's a possibility. The leather is not that thick, and its fairly supple. I knew this when I bought mine, and chose them partly because I wanted something with good control feel that fit tight. There are far heavier summer-weight gloves out there if protection is what matters bar everything. For street riding to 75MPH or so I'm more concerned about control feel. Haven't crash tested them.
Try www.motorcyclegearreview.com, they have some good info over there including crash reports.
Maybe this helps? :)
Quote from: AlphaFire X5 on October 21, 2006, 09:50:42 PM
Those of you with the SP-1s, I hear they run a size small. Truth?
both of those look fine. I wear size small gloves and the size small SP-1's fit well, so based on my limited personal experience I'd say they run true to size.
My Cortech carbons have always been great for me. Very comfortable, warm enough, and definately was enough protection when I was bumped off the road at 30+mph into a rocky median (2" rough rock). I can't speak on Alpinestars due to lack of experience :dunno_white: But as for Cortech, THEY ROCK! :thumb:
Maybe my hands are different size's but my SP-1's the right fits good but I have trouble with fitting the left one it seems smaller or like I said my hands are two different sizes
I posted this in another thread but meant to put it here:
http://www.triumph675.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5281
This being my second year of ownership of these gloves, I am pleased with how well they've broken in, and the fit and feel of them. While it does take a couple days to get used to them, when switching from summer gauntlets, I have found that the lining, in the palm, has compressed a little to give me the feeling that I would normally have with an unlined summer glove; that, and I'm familiar with the vibration/sensation of the motorcycle. My hands still get cold in these (but maybe it's because I have poor blood circulation), and use silk glove liners in the mornings.
So no one has any experience with the Scarabs? They seem to be a very nice glove, especially for the price, but I'm mainly concerned about how much wrist strap adjustment it has.
Also, if those A* SP-1s fit snugly in the fingers, if I wear silk liners isn't there a possibility of having the circulation cut off in my fingers simply because of the pressure on them?
MotorcycleGearReview.com is okay, but their products are all outdated. Nothing recent is up there for reviews. The SP-1s that they have are the old OLD model, nothing recent.
If you can, try on the SP-1s somewhere before committing to them. For me, even the XXL was too small (I'm somewhere between a large and XL in most brands).
Quote from: Mandres on October 22, 2006, 12:54:13 PM
If you can, try on the SP-1s somewhere before committing to them. For me, even the XXL was too small (I'm somewhere between a large and XL in most brands).
No where around here stocks them.
Also, from what I hear they are tight until you break them in, just like my other A* gloves. However, after break in they supposedly fit extremely well, just like my current A* gloves.
I'm tellin ya:
(chanting) Cortech, Cortech, Cortech! :thumb:
Quote from: dggraphics on October 22, 2006, 02:02:24 PM
I'm tellin ya:
(chanting) Cortech, Cortech, Cortech! :thumb:
Yeah yeah, but the Scarabs are totally different from the Carbons, and since I'll use the gauntlet for summer trackdays and spring/fall riding, I'll just get one pair of gloves, rather than two.
Quote from: AlphaFire X5 on October 22, 2006, 02:10:28 PM
Quote from: dggraphics on October 22, 2006, 02:02:24 PM
I'm tellin ya:
(chanting) Cortech, Cortech, Cortech! :thumb:
Yeah yeah, but the Scarabs are totally different from the Carbons, and since I'll use the gauntlet for summer trackdays and spring/fall riding, I'll just get one pair of gloves, rather than two.
Can't argue with that, sounds like you found the glove for you.
Quote from: dggraphics on October 22, 2006, 02:31:39 PM
Quote from: AlphaFire X5 on October 22, 2006, 02:10:28 PM
Quote from: dggraphics on October 22, 2006, 02:02:24 PM
I'm tellin ya:
(chanting) Cortech, Cortech, Cortech! :thumb:
Yeah yeah, but the Scarabs are totally different from the Carbons, and since I'll use the gauntlet for summer trackdays and spring/fall riding, I'll just get one pair of gloves, rather than two.
Can't argue with that, sounds like you found the glove for you.
No, as noted before, I'm debating between the Cortech Scarab R.R. and the Alpinestars SP-1. I'm still on the fence between the two.
My favorite local shop has them, I'll go try them on and compare them with my Carbons. But, I'll tell you right now that I passed them by, because of the lack of leather between the fingers.
Quote from: scratch on October 22, 2006, 05:39:47 PM
My favorite local shop has them, I'll go try them on and compare them with my Carbons. But, I'll tell you right now that I passed them by, because of the lack of leather between the fingers.
Wait... you're kidding, right? Dang nabbit. TragicImage agreed to send me his pair to test out for a bit, but I was under the impression they were all leather gloves. Apparently they are neoprene, which means they are out of the running. I guess that means the SP-1s win out.
Anyone have any experience with these gloves:
(http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/photos/OG/g15907.jpg)
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/item.aspx?style=15907&department=106&Division=1#
Alpha, I think i have a pair of sp-1s that i got at a pretty good price but have never worn. They are size large and all black. I can get you some pics tonight if you are intrested in them. Let me know if i can help out.
later
Quote from: xadventure67 on October 23, 2006, 12:27:52 PM
Alpha, I think i have a pair of sp-1s that i got at a pretty good price but have never worn. They are size large and all black. I can get you some pics tonight if you are intrested in them. Let me know if i can help out.
later
I've learned that the SP-1s fit pretty tight and can't be worn with liners. Combine that with the perforations between the finger and it looks like I won't be buying them as my all-around gauntlet glove. Bummer.
The MotoGP ones are pretty interesting, I must say. I am definitely considering them as they are the only ones that fit all my criteria.