I know I'm preaching to the converted, but this was posted on another bike forum I frequent.
http://www.speedfreakinc.com/content/articles/riding/roadrashqueen.html
damn whoa :o suckage factor 1500% ouch :cry:
I always laugh at this. The wind pulled her visor open and that caused her to be picked up off the bike... yeah right. Sounds like a job for MythBusters.
And after all this she goes and buys an R6 as her first street bike. And blings herself with pink Icon gear.
She has a MySpace too... let me find it...
EDIT: Here we go.
http://www.myspace.com/brit2morrow
What a piece of work...
Quote from: AlphaFire X5 on October 05, 2006, 06:32:44 AM
I always laugh at this. The wind pulled her visor open and that caused her to be picked up off the bike... yeah right. Sounds like a job for MythBusters.
And after all this she goes and buys an R6 as her first street bike. And blings herself with pink Icon gear.
She has a MySpace too... let me find it...
EDIT: Here we go.
http://www.myspace.com/brit2morrow
What a piece of work...
geez you ARE the biggest @$$hole I've met alpha. Do you EVER smile at ANYTHING?
:icon_mrgreen:
on another note this story is truly touching. It still blows my mind when I see people tearing down the street with no gear on.
After reading this story I took a quick trip in my cage and I saw two bikers blow by my car. One was a a young cute girl much like this article. No helmet, no gear, on a big 750, riding with one hand no less. It got me thinking
What's so cool about one hand? WTF is wrong with people? Then I started thinking crazy, convincing myself that wearing gear on a 2 wheeled vehicle should be Federally mandated. Do you know how many lives it would be saved if wearing a helmet and full gear were required by law? Hunderds, maybe thousands.
Hey I can dream can't I? :dunno_white:
I guess some people need to learn the hard way? like this girl.
Yea, I was very suprised when she got a 600ss to learn to ride on. Maybe she didn't know any better. The article is really touching and well-written, I really felt bad for her regardless of her poor judgement.
-M
I agree with Alpha. How are you going to get picked up off the bike by the head? Not possile. She was just being stupid, as usual, and fell off the back of a moving vehicle. "I could have grabbed his shirt, but I did't want him to go down too." WTF Hope she never rolls down the windows of her car on the highway, cause she'll probably get sucked right out the window. Who does she think she's fooling? Sounds like a wheelie gone bad to me. She just fell off a wheelie, and I don't feel "touched" by a chic who fell off a wheelie and got burnt up.
:laugh: oh alpha you're such an ass, keep up the good work :laugh:
You see it's Darwinism... as tussey said, there's something wrong with these people; they don't wear their gear and ride around like jack asses, so natural selection removes them from the gene pool. Do you really think the government should mess with nature?
"Here's the jist of it: I was a passenger on my friend Shaun's GXSR 750, we were going extremely fast on highway 550, that means about 120mph. I had my hands resting on the gas tank, like usual, I was NOT holding onto Shaun like I should have been. My helmet visor flipped open, pullling my head up and back instantly, which made me sit straight up and lean back on the passenger seat, as I had no grip on anything tangible. Sitting up at 120mph hit me so hard and fast that it ripped me off the back of the bike. "
Okay, so 120mph and she was sitting behind this guy. When you're a passenger on a bike there is typically a pocket of still air behind the rider due to the air flowing up, over, and around the rider. She was sitting behind him, so should have been in that still pocket of air.
Having your helmet visor flipped open at speed, well, unless it's open more than 3/4ths of the way, it is not going to open up, and even that last 1/4 isn't enough to cause that drastic of a change. Helmets are aerodynamically designed for a reason. Also, if she was in the still pocket of air there wouldn't be significant air flow to cause the helmet visor to open up.
Helmet visors aren't really all that strong, either, so saying that it pulled her head up and back instantly is a little far fetched I believe. When placed under any serious load (like trying to lift a 110lb girl) the visor would simply snap off. That's assuming of course that there was enough aerodynamic lift from the visor to even pull her head back. I don't believe there is, as I believe the visors are shaped in such a way that at full open they cut through the air for the most part, only catching a little of it to bobble your head around.
Quote from: tussey on October 05, 2006, 07:29:29 AM
Then I started thinking crazy, convincing myself that wearing gear on a 2 wheeled vehicle should be Federally mandated. Do you know how many lives it would be saved if wearing a helmet and full gear were required by law? Hunderds, maybe thousands.
Just to play Devil's Advocate ... but anyone have an idea how many this would actually be? I'm curious.
That being said, I always ride with my gear and only put my hand on the tank when my wrist starts to hurt.
Why do y'all think that the R6 was her first bike? She gives lots of indications that she had ridden before NOT as a passenger... and comments on being "reminded of the basics" when she was prepping to return to riding.
Yeah, ok, she is a bit of a fooffy girl, but that doesn't have anything to do with anything.
guess you missed it she said she was on highway 550 not doing 550 on the highway ... you dont know how fast she was going at no point did she ever say .. but they must have been flying .. it did not say the helment pulled her off it said that the visor had fliped up (the helmet was already to big ) have you ever had your visor up doing 80 ? the wind chaches it right itpulls on it pretty hard . now take that and do 120+ i bet they where doing over 120 . dont guess get your facts right. dont assume .. all that dose is make a "ass out of me and you"
second ... yea there might have been somethings that might have been done that should not have ....but she was a passenger .. if that guy was smart he would not have done it .. we all know not everyone is smart.... but if your a passenger .. alot of times you dont have a say in what gose on . have you tryed to talk to someone at 120 miles ? or 100 ... not to easy now easy it ?
Those pictures always make me cringe. It doesn't matter how it happened; it happened. She sounds a lot smarter after having suffered that pain, and I wouldn't wish that kind of pain on anyone. Kudos to her for sharing her story and trying to get others to gear up (and it doesn't matter if she's an attention whore, either, because her message is more important than her motives here).
I don't wish that kind of pain on anyone. However, I think she's a fuckin' tard. I'm with Alpha on this one. I gave a friend a ride the other night, cuz she was stranded. I made her wear my helmet/gloves/jacket, and hold on TIGHT, or it wasn't happening. Yes, I know that riding without a helmet is illegal in GA, but I'd rather mess myself up than mess up someone riding on my bike (Especialy a girl).
If there isn't gear x 2, then there should be no passenger, IMHO. You could have waited with her until a ride arrived?
Calling someone else a f%$king tard for riding without gear and then riding without gear yourself? I don't see any difference here other than that you were luckier than she.
It seems I remember this chick saying she was the passenger in THIS vid:
http://www.cyclevids.com/showvideo.php?id=452
^really makes me sick.
Quote from: pandy on October 05, 2006, 10:54:31 AM
If there isn't gear x 2, then there should be no passenger, IMHO. You could have waited with her until a ride arrived?
Calling someone else a f%$king tard for riding without gear and then riding without gear yourself? I don't see any difference here other than that you were luckier than she.
If we could have waited till there was a ride, I wouldn't have had to give her one. Her ride's car broke down. Her roommate was too drunk to drive. I chose the lesser of two evils. Drunk guy in a car, or sober guy with no gear. Like I said... that's acceptable risk to me, I ride on a daily basis. I'd rather hurt myself, than her. I'm saying her boyfriend/friend/whatever never should have let her on the back of his bike without properly protecting her. I can accept the risk to myself, not to my passenger. My life is my own to risk. Hers is not mine to gamble with. If we went down, and she was in full gear, and didn't get hurt.. I wouldn't mind being hurt. If we went down, and I was in full gear, and she wasn't, and she got hurt... I'd never be able to live with myself. Just my $.02
Quote from: NiceGuysFinishLast on October 05, 2006, 11:39:52 AM
If we could have waited till there was a ride, I wouldn't have had to give her one. Her ride's car broke down. Her roommate was too drunk to drive. I chose the lesser of two evils. Drunk guy in a car, or sober guy with no gear.
So...what you're saying here is......that she has only two friends: a drunk and you? ??? ;)
Quote from: NiceGuysFinishLast on October 05, 2006, 11:39:52 AM
If we went down, and I was in full gear, and she wasn't, and she got hurt... I'd never be able to live with myself. Just my $.02
Ok. I understand what you're trying to say here, and I admire your gallantry, but I'd rather not have to come keek your @$$ because you hurt yourself horribly due to not wearing gear. :P :kiss3:
Quote from: makenzie71 on October 05, 2006, 11:23:15 AM
It seems I remember this chick saying she was the passenger in THIS vid:
http://www.cyclevids.com/showvideo.php?id=452
^really makes me sick.
I wondered that too having seen the vid.
But the girl in in the video looks like she has a helmet with graphics on it :dunno_white:
If that is her on the video, she's definitely a dumbass :nono: for riding like that, and a double dumbass :nono: :nono: for going riding with a guy that wears f--in shorts and a t-shirt.
you people... are one giant group of poop squawkers.
What i don't understand is how an event like that hasn't sobred her up. If you look at her myspace she seems to use the fact she has all this publicity for wearing gear to fuel her ego. Half of her page is full of advert links to people who have done a story on her - and pictures which make her look like a model - like she is all about me - in love with herself. Then you read down the page and its all about my near death experience! and loads of shaZam! that she seems to do about getting attention - i think she loves the attention and isnt a good role model. Events like that should sober you up - throwing some gear on and saying always wear your gear look at at me is not the right image to be given when half way down the page you say you love going really fast and shaZam! like that.
Shes just an attention seeker.
Quote from: pandy on October 05, 2006, 01:46:58 PM
Quote from: NiceGuysFinishLast on October 05, 2006, 11:39:52 AM
If we could have waited till there was a ride, I wouldn't have had to give her one. Her ride's car broke down. Her roommate was too drunk to drive. I chose the lesser of two evils. Drunk guy in a car, or sober guy with no gear.
So...what you're saying here is......that she has only two friends: a drunk and you? ??? ;)
Quote from: NiceGuysFinishLast on October 05, 2006, 11:39:52 AM
If we went down, and I was in full gear, and she wasn't, and she got hurt... I'd never be able to live with myself. Just my $.02
Ok. I understand what you're trying to say here, and I admire your gallantry, but I'd rather not have to come keek your @$$ because you hurt yourself horribly due to not wearing gear. :P :kiss3:
It was 10 o'clock at night. Our options were: The store manager (creepy old dude with whom she didn't feel comfortable in a car), Her ex-boyfriend (his car broke down), her roommate (he was drunk, cuz he'd just gotten off of work)... Beyond that, yea, I was more or less her only choice.
And believe me, if I went down, you wouldn't have to keek my ass.. I'd do it myself. We went the backroads, never over 30mph, and it was maybe 2 miles, tops. I took every precaution possible. Beyond that, it's just the risk inherent in living.
Yeah, I understand cabs are pretty scarce in college towns. :P
Besides, we're all going to die anyway, so might as well live it up without gear! :icon_rolleyes: :laugh:
Quote from: Kasumi on October 05, 2006, 02:12:50 PM
Shes just an attention seeker.
Yeah, she is an attention whore, but her pics are a great way for *others* to learn how bad it can be, even if she isn't the perfect roadrash role model. ;)
Quote from: pandy on October 05, 2006, 02:49:31 PM
Yeah, I understand cabs are pretty scarce in college towns. :P
My college town got their first (and to date only) cab 2 years after I graduated. But I'm not in Atlanta :)
Quote from: MrDan on October 05, 2006, 02:57:32 PM
My college town got their first (and to date only) cab 2 years after I graduated. But I'm not in Atlanta :)
Well...duh....you went to college in 1904, right? ;) :icon_mrgreen:
Quote from: pandy on October 05, 2006, 02:49:31 PM
Yeah, I understand cabs are pretty scarce in college towns. :P
Besides, we're all going to die anyway, so might as well live it up without gear! :icon_rolleyes: :laugh:
I was in Kennesaw. I did not think of a cab though. Although, I doubt she would have willingly paid for one. Oh well... what's done is done.. and I'm not dead.. yay!
...yeah this thread's topic has only slightly skewed.
Quote from: MrDan on October 05, 2006, 08:37:27 AM
Quote from: tussey on October 05, 2006, 07:29:29 AM
Then I started thinking crazy, convincing myself that wearing gear on a 2 wheeled vehicle should be Federally mandated. Do you know how many lives it would be saved if wearing a helmet and full gear were required by law? Hunderds, maybe thousands.
Just to play Devil's Advocate ... but anyone have an idea how many this would actually be? I'm curious.
That being said, I always ride with my gear and only put my hand on the tank when my wrist starts to hurt.
Yea I thought about it, this is how it would work. Sorta like SNELL who certifies helmets. A committee would be formed to certify gear then a patch would be placed on all gear that passes the inspection. Then if you get pulled over and you don't have certfified gear on then you're given a ticket. Much like not wearing your seatbelt.
BUT....it would never happen. Plus all those fat harlery riders would form an army and storm congress. But hey it would save a lot of lives. :dunno_white:
Quote from: pandy on October 05, 2006, 03:02:30 PM
Quote from: MrDan on October 05, 2006, 02:57:32 PM
My college town got their first (and to date only) cab 2 years after I graduated. But I'm not in Atlanta :)
Well...duh....you went to college in 1904, right? ;) :icon_mrgreen:
Yup I graduated in 1904 .. give or take 95 years :cheers:
Quote from: makenzie71 on October 05, 2006, 03:24:03 PM
...yeah this thread's topic has only slightly skewed.
Well thats unusual for this forum :icon_rolleyes:
The main reason I posted about this was just a reminder that gear is good whether she's an attention whore or what ever is really irrelivant. The fact is don't wear your gear & come off your in for a painful recovery.
As for riders that don't wear the right gear, I guess it's their decision not to & they're the one who'll have to live with the consequences if/when they have an off. Trying to get these riders to wear gear is like trying to teach a pig sing, all your going to do is waste your time & annoy the pig.
That's not true. I was convinced to wear gear by my peers. When I started riding I wore nothing protective.
I think, though, that most people go about trying to "convert" others the wrong way...advertising how dangerous it is to not wear the protective stuff, and telling them how stupid they are for it, is posative publicity, unfortunately.
I don't know how to propperly convince others, though. The deciding moment in my life was being told to think about Kalee as, for some reason, I hadn't. She would ride pillion with me, just as naked in the eyes of the asphault. Having been a luger for a while, I became very familiar with what asphault does to flesh on numerous occasions...I've had the skin peeled from my left arm on two occasions, and have badly burned my back and left hip on others. I'm a man and I dealt with it...in fact I was proud of my "battle scars"...but Kalee is different. In my eyes she's frail and weak and should be protected from such harm...I couldn't live with myself if, at my expense, she ever endured a fraction of the pain I have. I couldn't very well make her wear gear if I didn't wear it myself. From then on I've donned a helmet and jacket and gloves and boots, at least, ever since.
(I don't wear shorts...shorts are for chicks)
Quote from: NiceGuysFinishLast on October 05, 2006, 03:11:09 PM
Quote from: pandy on October 05, 2006, 02:49:31 PM
Yeah, I understand cabs are pretty scarce in college towns. :P
Besides, we're all going to die anyway, so might as well live it up without gear! :icon_rolleyes: :laugh:
I was in Kennesaw. I did not think of a cab though. Although, I doubt she would have willingly paid for one. Oh well... what's done is done.. and I'm not dead.. yay!
Becareful in Kennesaw lived there for over 2 years Cobb co. cops are the worst in Ga.
I feel the same way Mak and NGFL do. Thats probally the reason why my wife got all of her gear before I got mine :laugh:. If I get hurt riding because I wasn't wearing gear then it's my faut, no sense in complaining about it it would totally be my fault. I would not be able to look myself in the mirror if I let my wife ride without gear and she got hurt.
I wear my gear for two very important reasons, my wife and my son. My son's only 2 1/2 years old but he has never seen me get on my bike without my gear on. I do know that people die from riding motorcycles, or can get seriously injured, and that in some cases gear will not help. But if I can do or wear something that will decrease my chances of being hurt or dead then I'm going to do / wear it.
Enjoy life you only have one, but don't be so careful that life slips by you and at the end you wonder if you really lived or not.
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BUT....it would never happen. Plus all those fat harlery riders would form an army and storm congress. But hey it would save a lot of lives. :dunno_white:
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and the fat squids as well
from her myspace i read this im thinkin ehhh
"The motorcycle is my shepherd; I shall not want. It maketh me burnout on black pavements; It leadeth me beside busy freeways; It restoreth my soul; It leads me in the path of quickness for its names sake. Though I walk through the valley of rice, I shall fear no turbo, for Torque art with me; Thy clutch and thy throttle they comfort me. Thou preparest a Track for me in the presense of mine enemies; Thou hast anointed my engine with oil; My bike overpowers. Surely traction and victory shall follow me, All the days of my life, And I shall dwell in the house of the CC's, Forever. Amen"
Quote from: MrDan on October 05, 2006, 08:37:27 AM
Quote from: tussey on October 05, 2006, 07:29:29 AM
Then I started thinking crazy, convincing myself that wearing gear on a 2 wheeled vehicle should be Federally mandated. Do you know how many lives it would be saved if wearing a helmet and full gear were required by law? Hunderds, maybe thousands.
Just to play Devil's Advocate ... but anyone have an idea how many this would actually be? I'm curious.
That being said, I always ride with my gear and only put my hand on the tank when my wrist starts to hurt.
It's so funny that this came up in this topic. Im meeting with my doctoral advisor next week to discuss the possibility of doing some research into the impacts of wearing gear (not just helmets) but full gear. He does alot of economic impact of injury stuff in his research, so I"m thinking about creating a survery of riders here on this forum and on some other forums to get some pilot data on the prevalence of who wears gear and also types of accidents people have had.
theadjack over.
Jake
it really pisses me off when people purpously bastardize the only thing I sa to God before I ride:
The Lord is my Shepherd, I shall not want. He maketh me to lie down in green pastures. He leadeth me beside the still waters. He restoreth my soul. He leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for His name' sake.
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: For thou art with me;
Thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me. Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies;
Thou annointest my head with oil; My cup runneth over.
Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life, and I will dwell in the House of the Lord forever.
~~it's a rather powerful thing to recite prior to a ride. Even more powerful to believe.
Quote from: makenzie71 on October 05, 2006, 11:55:36 PM
it really pisses me off when people purpously bastardize the only thing I sa to God before I ride:
The Lord is my Shepherd, I shall not want. He maketh me to lie down in green pastures. He leadeth me beside the still waters. He restoreth my soul. He leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for His name' sake.
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: For thou art with me;
Thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me. Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies;
Thou annointest my head with oil; My cup runneth over.
Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life, and I will dwell in the House of the Lord forever.
~~it's a rather powerful thing to recite prior to a ride. Even more powerful to believe.
amen to that mak T.Y. :bowdown:
Quote from: makenzie71 on October 05, 2006, 11:55:36 PM
it really pisses me off when people purpously bastardize the only thing I sa to God before I ride:
.snip.
I am not very religious, and usually it pisses me of when christianity (or any religion, for that matter) is worn on ones sleeve, but I fully concur.
Religious feelings of others are not to be trampled on. Period.
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