I sent pictures to a guy on GeorgiaSportBike.com of my subframe, and asked him for an estimate. His estimate, based solely on the pictures was $150-$250. That's just to bend the subframe back to normal, so I can mount stock tail plastics. I honestly don't want to spend that kind of money just to go back to stock.
Turd told me I should take a sawsall, chop it all off and make it streetfighterish/Ducati Monsterish.
That actually kind of appeals to me...
My other thought was either an R6 or CBR600F4i tail. Both are about $100 on ebay, and I'm pretty sure I could get one even cheaper from a local bike junk yard. However, doing an R6 or F4i tail requires the stock subframe, or some other straight subframe. I'm thinking I could just go to a junkyard, chop off the correct subframe and take the plastics, and figure something out. Problem is, I can't weld.
Gurus, what say you?
Look what this guy did with his SV:
(http://forum.svrider.com/tp-images/Image/oct2006-winner.jpg)
Do it.
Streetfighter, baby!
Why is that guy so f*cking huge on his SV? :laugh:
I'm actually seriously contemplating it. Things stopping me: I don't know how to fab a seat. I'm not sure how I'd mount a taillight.
But seriously.. that looks f*cking cool, IMHO. It's the cheapest too.. cuz I could sell my cracked plastics for cheap for track plastics and I've got a pristine set of '06 tail plastics that would probably fetch a pretty penny...
All it would cost is whatever fabbing a seat costs, and some sort of custom taillight.
Quote from: NiceGuysFinishLast on November 05, 2006, 06:55:41 PM
Why is that guy so f*cking huge on his SV? :laugh:
I'm actually seriously contemplating it. Things stopping me: I don't know how to fab a seat. I'm not sure how I'd mount a taillight.
But seriously.. that looks f*cking cool, IMHO. It's the cheapest too.. cuz I could sell my cracked plastics for cheap for track plastics and I've got a pristine set of '06 tail plastics that would probably fetch a pretty penny...
All it would cost is whatever fabbing a seat costs, and some sort of custom taillight.
Dude, get an SV subframe, hack off the back part, get an LED light bar to fab up as a tail light, and weld it on. Easy.
And the seat? Stock SV seat? 1st gen or 2nd gen?
Quote from: NiceGuysFinishLast on November 05, 2006, 07:01:14 PM
And the seat? Stock SV seat? 1st gen or 2nd gen?
Looks like that guy was using the stock seat from his 2nd gen SV. Whichever subframe you find, just use the stock one. Hell, any subframe with a two tier seat will work.
The frame of your gs is steel and the subframe of other bikes are aluminum. Youll have to weld tabs and then bolt it on.
Quote from: 94suzuki500 on November 05, 2006, 07:11:48 PM
The frame of your gs is steel and the subframe of other bikes are aluminum. Youll have to weld tabs and then bolt it on.
For once, I actually agree with this guy.
You'll likely have to bolt it up. Either way, F&$#N do it! It'll be uber sweet.
-T.
Quote from: 94suzuki500 on November 05, 2006, 07:11:48 PM
The frame of your gs is steel and the subframe of other bikes are aluminum. Youll have to weld tabs and then bolt it on.
Ahh.. good point... I'll have to look into pricing for that... but it should be cheaper than the $150-$250 I was quoted to put it back to stock... Plus, I can probably sell my new tail plastics for like $150 and the old plastics for like $20.. so that's a bit of money in my pocket for mods..
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/ex500/G%20flow/ex600rr_1.jpg)
Do this.
Buy a Kawasaki?
:laugh:
What kinda tail is that, Mak? And what difficulties do you foresee?
The EX and GS have almost identicle frames. That guy chopped the subframe, carved plates to match the new subframe bolt pattern and welded them to the frame. Difficulty is dependant on skill.
R6 subframe, plastics and seats.
that look really good. id like to do something with my tail/seat.
Quote from: makenzie71 on November 05, 2006, 07:38:25 PM
The EX and GS have almost identicle frames. That guy chopped the subframe, carved plates to match the new subframe bolt pattern and welded them to the frame. Difficulty is dependant on skill.
R6 subframe, plastics and seats.
I'm not very skillful..
Been toying around the idea of maken a reshape tail or a solo. Would use a old tail n seat as a base and carve it up and then shape it with fiberglass and paint it. I'm just outside augusta ,ga. If I get it together I'll let ya know, shouldn't be to hard, just need a old tail and seat. Can even be a little cracked.
Well, I've got an old cracked up tail, and the seat is in perfect shape... The only problem for me is that my whole subframe is f*cked... however, if I get this SV subframe thing going, I won't need my stock seat/plastics.. I'll let you know..
(http://i10.ebayimg.com/01/i/08/bc/15/d2_1.JPG)
Get a Ducati monster seat, trim the subframe to fit it.
Could ya make or brace your old frame with some steel tubes, like steel stock? Don't know, don't know how bad your frame is. Did you crash it?
Yeah, I wrecked. The actual frame is ok.. just the subframe is bent. I suppose I could just fab something out of steel tubing.. didn't think of that. Hrmm...
Is that something you'd be interested in helping with, for proper compensation?
If the subframe is just tweaked, just un-tweak it.
Quote from: makenzie71 on November 05, 2006, 10:35:47 PM
If the subframe is just tweaked, just un-tweak it.
thats what I'm thinking. sportbike guys just put a pipe on it and tweak it back. mines a bit bent from my crash but not enough to make a difference so I never bothered fixing it.
how bad is your subframe-post a pic. or a link to where you might have posted it before.
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=29738.msg322842#msg322842
Pics of the subframe in that post. It's pretty bad. I emailed those same pics to a guy from GSB.. he quoted $150-$250 to repair.... I have to take it to him once it's running, and let him appraise it in person..
how much of the subframe is bent? Is it more than just that rear part where the grab rail mounts? The pics suggest its just that peice.
you can also buy a gs frame (you know, from someone on ebay without title) and cut off the subframe to reweld it to your frame. If you went that route you'd have to be sure to get a 01+ model year because the earlier ones had different mounting points for the plastics. Doing this might be easier than trying to fix anything on this subframe, and cheaper/less headaches than trying to ghetto-rig a subframe from something else, especially if you dont have skills for that sort of fabrication.
Yeah, the actual subframe, as far as I can tell, isn't tweaked at all.. just the point with the grab rail... however, the point with the grab rail is also the main mounting point for the tail plastics. I'm thinking of going to a bike junkyard and trying to find a good one off a bike there.. supposedly, there's one close, Dave knows where it is.
I was just thinking of trying to go custom, and that bobber on the SV is REALLY hot. As for the fabrication skills.. I have none.. YET.. I wouldn't mind playing around and learning though.
Whatever, it's 3:44 AM.. I just watched the second hand on a clock for 40 minutes straight.. I'm not coherent enough to be contemplating this right now.
I appreciate everyone's suggestions.. keep em coming!
dude I got a friend in Bremen who'll fix it for $75 and a case of beer.
Quote from: makenzie71 on November 06, 2006, 02:13:05 AM
dude I got a friend in Bremen who'll fix it for $75 and a case of beer.
No shaZam!? I could be down for that... I'll have to have someone else buy the beer though.. damn 21+ laws..
On an unrelated note.. Mak, you must be the only person I know who sleeps less than me...
Mak doesn't sleep.
Quote from: NiceGuysFinishLast on November 05, 2006, 09:45:02 PM
Is that something you'd be interested in helping with, for proper compensation?
Man I wouldn't take a dime! I'm just 2.5 hrs away.. You should be able to straighten that out, think a bout a 3lb hammer and a 24" pipe wrench, you could just twist some of that back with the wrench. Even if it wasn't perfect, as long as the plastics mounting points are straight you should be able to hide the rest.
Quote from: NiceGuysFinishLast on November 06, 2006, 01:47:50 AM
As for the fabrication skills.. I have none.. YET.. I wouldn't mind playing around and learning though.
Famous last words?? :laugh:
Seriously, becareful is you start learning on your own. :thumb:
Quote from: pantablo on November 06, 2006, 10:33:12 AM
Quote from: makenzie71 on November 06, 2006, 02:59:53 AM
Mak doesn't sleep.
Mak dont sleep.
"Mak doesn't sleep."
"Doesn't" is the contraction of the words "does" and "not".
~~Makenzie
does not sleep.
"Mak don't sleep."
"Don't" is the contraction of the words "do" and "not".
~~Makenzie do not sleep.
This sentence would need a comma after "Makenzie" to be correct.
~~Makenzie, don't sleep.
At that point, though, it becomes a command, and not a statement.
You telling me what to do, punk?(http://www.tlplanet.com/forums/images/smilies/hein.gif)
Quote from: makenzie71 on November 06, 2006, 11:55:05 AM
Quote from: pantablo on November 06, 2006, 10:33:12 AM
Quote from: makenzie71 on November 06, 2006, 02:59:53 AM
Mak doesn't sleep.
Mak dont sleep.
"Mak doesn't sleep."
"Doesn't" is the conjunction of the words "does" and "not".
~~Makenzie does not sleep.
"Mak don't sleep."
"Don't" is the conjunction of the words "do" and "not".
~~Makenzie do not sleep.
This sentence would need a comma after "Makenzie" to be correct.
~~Makenzie, don't sleep.
At that point, though, it becomes a command, and not a statement.
You telling me what to do, punk?(http://www.tlplanet.com/forums/images/smilies/hein.gif)
And there endeth the lesson
Quote from: makenzie71 on November 06, 2006, 11:55:05 AM
Quote from: pantablo on November 06, 2006, 10:33:12 AM
Quote from: makenzie71 on November 06, 2006, 02:59:53 AM
Mak doesn't sleep.
Mak dont sleep.
"Mak doesn't sleep."
"Doesn't" is the conjunction of the words "does" and "not".
~~Makenzie does not sleep.
"Mak don't sleep."
"Don't" is the conjunction of the words "do" and "not".
~~Makenzie do not sleep.
This sentence would need a comma after "Makenzie" to be correct.
~~Makenzie, don't sleep.
At that point, though, it becomes a command, and not a statement.
You telling me what to do, punk?(http://www.tlplanet.com/forums/images/smilies/hein.gif)
PWNT!!
Haha, never thought I'd see Mak giving a grammar lesson! :laugh:
Actually, the words referred to by Mak are contractions, not conjunctions. Conjunctions are the joining of two ideas (using words or phrases, such as either/or and neither/nor); contractions are the joining of two words (do not = don't). Sorry, but Mak is fired. :icon_mrgreen:
yeah whatever (http://forums.azcardinals.com/images/smilies/blah-blah1_an.gif)(http://www.ls1.com/forums/images/smilies/slapboobies.gif)
you missed my point entirely...If you're going to talk in the 3rd person you need "attitude" with it...thus the 'don't' usage instead of the proper usage of doesn't.
yeah I can't really pull off attitude.
Yeah...much too mellow.... (http://www.pnwriders.com/forum/images/smilies/crackup.gif)
Quote from: NiceGuysFinishLast on November 05, 2006, 07:32:42 PM
Buy a Kawasaki?
:laugh:
What kinda tail is that, Mak? And what difficulties do you foresee?
That is a first gen (99-02) R6 Tail, complete with passenger seat
there's a ton of info & pics of different tails on the GS over on the US site.
that pic Alpha posted of the hacked SV is friggin HOT though!
I'm definitly gonna keep that in mind. you might actually be able to get away with the GS subframe, rather than fitting on an SV one. The SV would probably look better though, being solid. Shortening the seat & mounting a taillight would be easy.... hmmmmm
I'll probably have to wait till I get another bike. My fiance would kick my butt if I chopped off her seat.
that headlight actually looks pretty good on it too: http://www.acerbis.com/p107_headlight/3002.html
Wow...try this with the tail of your bike...
This SV uses a Ducati Monster seat/solo cowl and looks almost like a Triumph Speed Triple (my favorite bike on planet earth)...
(http://static.flickr.com/104/274139887_adbf804633.jpg)
-Turd.
Quote from: pantablo on November 06, 2006, 02:56:21 PM
you missed my point entirely...If you're going to talk in the 3rd person you need "attitude" with it...thus the 'don't' usage instead of the proper usage of doesn't.
Plus, he needs a definite article before his name to
really pull off 'tude--Thus:
"The Mak don't sleep."
Chilly
Back to the motorcyles, that street fighter SV on the first page is the SVrider.com bike of the month. Info and pic on the home page of SVrider.com