http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30674&highlight=tires
thats why i only take my elise to the lotus dealer to get tires put on.
oh wait, i dont have an elise. god damnit.
I always put my own tires on.
By the way, I would NEVER NEVER EVER EVER IN A BILLION MILLION YEARS allow anyone to put my car on a lift.
Quote from: makenzie71 on November 15, 2006, 12:12:35 AM
By the way, I would NEVER NEVER EVER EVER IN A BILLION MILLION YEARS allow anyone to put my car on a lift.
Why is this?
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
GOOD!
That's what that f%$k gets for buying such a stupid car. :flipoff:
Fucker.
I hope this also happens to his H2...
Quote from: RVertigo on November 15, 2006, 01:25:48 AM
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
GOOD!
That's what that f%$k gets for buying such a stupid car. :flipoff:
f%$ker.
I hope this also happens to his H2...
Are you mad cause your poor or something? :laugh:
He must be...because the Elise is an encredible auto. I've spent many hours behind the wheel of one and they truely are all they're cracked up to be.
*right click save pictures as*
-Turd.
Quote from: annguyen1981 on November 15, 2006, 01:18:03 AM
Quote from: makenzie71 on November 15, 2006, 12:12:35 AM
By the way, I would NEVER NEVER EVER EVER IN A BILLION MILLION YEARS allow anyone to put my car on a lift.
Why is this?
Did you look a tthe pic?
they did not know what he was doin he did not read the book the guy gave him hes the dumass . i use to work at the ford dealer . if you wont let anyone put your stuff up on a lift ..... i guess you dont take it to a dealer do you ? cuz if you did and they said they where not gonna put it on a lift .. they probly lied to you and put it on there any way
Quote from: FearedGS500 on November 15, 2006, 11:59:16 AM
i use to work at the ford dealer .
No
there is some shaZam! I'd never admit to! :o
-Turd.
Quote from: FearedGS500 on November 15, 2006, 11:59:16 AM..... i guess you dont take it to a dealer do you ?
You're joking, right? I'm not about to take it to a dealer and let some no-knowledge kid approach my car with anything stiffer than a damp paper towl.
Quote from: 94suzuki500 on November 15, 2006, 08:17:23 AMAre you mad cause your poor or something? :laugh:
I'm mad 'cause people that spend ass-loads of money on a stupid f%$king gas guzzling car are stupid f%$k-sticks...
If you drive an H2 (Hummer, H3, etc), I think you're mentally retarded.
If buy any new car that gets less than 25 MPG, I think you're mentally retarded.
If you spend $60,000 or more on a car, I think you're mentally retarded.
If you're poor and can't afford any car better than your 8 MPG POS, then I understand... It sucks to be stuck getting crap gas mileage. It's a cycle, you can't afford a newer car so you spend all your money on gas, which makes you even more broke, which means you'll never afford a better car. :cry:
I don't like those types of cars (or 'busas for that matter) 'cause for several reasons. I'm secure in my sexuality, I'm interesting enough, I'm capable of getting laid, and I don't have a tiny little pecker...
Anyone that drives a :bs: car like that is missing something from their personality or their life.
[edit] Oh yeah and...
Are you mad 'cause you don't know the difference between "You're" and "Your" or something? :flipoff:
I guess you've got your facts wrong. That's a Lotus Elise, with a 1.8 inline 4 that gets 29 mpg.
They aren't nearly as expensive as you might believe, either.
I, personally, would own one at the drop of a hat and plan on looking for a yellow one after college.
-Turd.
You can get a base-line Elise for $40k...if you can get in line...and most the guy on the Elise forums claim between 25 and 35 mpg. They have the Toyota Celica engine in them.
And how is owning a performance car related to ones sexuality? You've proven that you don't get into motorsports, so why try and understand it? The Elise is a very practical car considering its level of performance. It is extremely light, has an amazing suspension design, is balanced well and has a fairly peppy motor. We're not talking about a Diablo here...
-Turd.
bah...diablos suck anyway...
Oh and I can say that a busa will be my next ride. I need a good tourer.
Quote from: makenzie71 on November 15, 2006, 01:11:42 PM
bah...diablos suck anyway...
Couldn't agree more. That's actually why I used it as an example, that car fits the description of what RVertigo was talking about...guzzles gas to perform no other function than to increase ones pee pee size.
-Turd.
Sorry guys... I didn't mean to point out that you have little peckers...
:dunno_white:
As far as my "facts" about that car... I don't have any. It's a sports car... They're all the same to me. :dunno_white: They're all pee pee-extensions...
Personally, I wouldn't even spend $20k on a car. If you add up all the cars and motos I've owned, it's less than that... My first car was $100, my second was $120, and my third was $1000... My GS was even less than that... Even if you add in my over-priced F.O.R.D. Exploder, it doesn't make the $20k mark (unless you count all the repairs on my Exploder :laugh:)
And... You assume I don't like motorsports, but you're wrong. I just think spending that kind of money on a "toy" is pointless... Just think about all the things they could have done with that money. It's the same thing as spending $5k on a TV or a computer... WHY? :dunno_white:
So... I'm happy his little car got mashed up because it's one less stupid car on the road no one got hurt. :cheers:
I feel bad for the guy up until he says, "Guess I'll have to drive the 911." Yeah, sucks for that guy but I dont want to hear his bitching.
-ash
Quote from: RVertigo on November 15, 2006, 01:31:53 PM
It's the same thing as spending $5k on a TV or a computer...
Because it's fun, and we can. It's not our fault you can't bring yourself to appreciate fine, high quality machinery.
Quote from: ashman on November 15, 2006, 04:13:20 PM
I feel bad for the guy up until he says, "Guess I'll have to drive the 911." Yeah, sucks for that guy but I dont want to hear his bitching.
-ash
So you wouldn't be bitching if smoeone dropped your car off a lift? :cookoo:
I would Buddha Loves You for a second until I realized it was going to be covered by insurance and I then walk outside to see my Porshe. That would shut me up.
-ash
i am a tech and i have never droped a car. but it's not that hard to do if you don't know what you are doing.
Insurance may not cover it. He may be screwed. It would require legal action to get his own insurance agency involved and the service shop's insurance can deny the claim for any reason (and they tend to do just that).
I'd be pissed no matter what I still had at home. That's a lot of hard work some asshat threw down the shitter.
the shop has to have insurance and it will cover it. i have seen this happen a few times
This argument reminds me of what my old roommate would say everytime we'd walk be people handing out pamphlets on global warming or Dafur or whatever else the hippies are trying to save:
"Can't you just leave me alone to be a douchebag and buy my fancy sports cars and enjoy my pretty things without having to think about this shaZam!?"
It sure gets them to leave you alone.
Quote from: cafeboy on November 15, 2006, 04:29:41 PM
the shop has to have insurance and it will cover it. i have seen this happen a few times
The shop has to have insurance but they can deny the claims.
According to the thread, the shop stepped up that day and had the insurance cutting the guy a check. Most shops have a reputation to uphold (though I'm not sure if I can say that about a GoodYear dealer...) so they will usually get good insurance incase of incidents like this. My old car got pretty messed up by a GoodYear dealer (incidentally) as the pushed it out of the bay and scraped it against a brick wall. $3,000 in damage and they had the best shop in the area repair it. I felt kinda funny pulling up to a shop full of BMW's, Audi's, Porche's in a 1992 Ford Thunderbird...
By saying "all sports cars are the same" you're proving my point. You're not into motorsports.
-Turd.
gotcha...I didn't read the thread...just first page.
The off topic argument in this thread is about the most uninformed and worthless one I have ever seen. The ignorance of people amazes me constantly. In response to the extension statement, I must be very well endowed as I own a 68 barracuda, a 91 rx-7, a 99 svt contour, a 00 gtp, an 01 gs500, and an 06 gt650r. All are driven and none are for show or ego. Granted, only one of these falls into the pure sports car bracket but the others are all in the same spirit. The total purchase price of my collection is roughly $30k (which has been done gradually over many years on a poor man's budget). Oh, and I almost forgot, I also have a 96 f250 with a 460 int it. All of these have their time and place for use and none of them are "stupid cars".
Above and beyond all else though it really sounds like RVertigo just needs a hug and a good laugh :icon_rolleyes: ... from :mad: to :laugh:
vert's just mad cuz I pissed in his wheaties and didn't tell him to after he was washing the dishes.
Quote from: RVertigo on November 15, 2006, 01:31:53 PM
Sorry guys... I didn't mean to point out that you have little peckers...
:dunno_white:
As far as my "facts" about that car... I don't have any. It's a sports car... They're all the same to me. :dunno_white: They're all pee pee-extensions...
Personally, I wouldn't even spend $20k on a car. If you add up all the cars and motos I've owned, it's less than that... My first car was $100, my second was $120, and my third was $1000... My GS was even less than that... Even if you add in my over-priced F.O.R.D. Exploder, it doesn't make the $20k mark (unless you count all the repairs on my Exploder :laugh:)
And... You assume I don't like motorsports, but you're wrong. I just think spending that kind of money on a "toy" is pointless... Just think about all the things they could have done with that money. It's the same thing as spending $5k on a TV or a computer... WHY? :dunno_white:
So... I'm happy his little car got mashed up because it's one less stupid car on the road no one got hurt. :cheers:
In the interest of community service, I will provide, free of charge, Cliff's Notes for RVertigo's statements.
As an individual I cannot understand why people who work hard could possibly want to enjoy the fruits of their labor. While I obviously derive at least some enjoyment from motorcycling, I cannot see how owning a superb auto such as a Lotus could bring similar enjoyment to someone else. Since I cannot see the correletion, I assume that said people are poorly endowed and mock them and their posessions. I also don't see the point of buying 'things,' so I will be selling all my posessions and living as a benevolent vagabond to avoid any hypocracy on my part.
I vote for aplitz to be the official gstwins cliff notes writer. :thumb:
Awesome.
Quote from: RVertigo on November 15, 2006, 12:56:55 PM
If you drive an H2 (Hummer, H3, etc), I think you're mentally retarded.
Your right about that. BUT, there are plenty of people, myself included, who buy real offroad capable SUVs and Trucks, and quite enjoy them offroad. Nothing wrong with that.
Quote from: RVertigo on November 15, 2006, 12:56:55 PM
If buy any new car that gets less than 25 MPG, I think you're mentally retarded.
The elise gets > 25mpg
Quote from: RVertigo on November 15, 2006, 12:56:55 PM
If you spend $60,000 or more on a car, I think you're mentally retarded.
The elise starts at $40K. Used ones with < 10k miles are on ebay right now for 30. That is a BARGAIN for a car as superb as that.
Quote from: RVertigo on November 15, 2006, 12:56:55 PM
Quote from: 94suzuki500 on November 15, 2006, 08:17:23 AMAre you mad cause your poor or something? :laugh:
I'm mad 'cause people that spend ass-loads of money on a stupid f%$king gas guzzling car are stupid f%$k-sticks...
If you drive an H2 (Hummer, H3, etc), I think you're mentally retarded.
If buy any new car that gets less than 25 MPG, I think you're mentally retarded.
If you spend $60,000 or more on a car, I think you're mentally retarded.
If you're poor and can't afford any car better than your 8 MPG POS, then I understand... It sucks to be stuck getting crap gas mileage. It's a cycle, you can't afford a newer car so you spend all your money on gas, which makes you even more broke, which means you'll never afford a better car. :cry:
I don't like those types of cars (or 'busas for that matter) 'cause for several reasons. I'm secure in my sexuality, I'm interesting enough, I'm capable of getting laid, and I don't have a tiny little pecker...
Anyone that drives a :bs: car like that is missing something from their personality or their life.
[edit] Oh yeah and...
Are you mad 'cause you don't know the difference between "You're" and "Your" or something? :flipoff:
So... You DON'T want to EVER upgrade your bike?
Basically, you said everything a poor person says. I'm sorry to say this, but you, my friend, are part of the 95% thinkers of the world. I'm 100% sure that if you had a chance to DOUBLE or maybe TRIPLE your income, you'd be buying a fancier car, nicer bike, maybe even buy a bigger house.
It's human nature. Nothing wrong with it.
But it's your ATTITUDE about the situation. I agree about the H2 and H3, but the original Hummvee is fantastic. I've driven a couple, and I really wanted one. But when they rolled out the H2, I kinda a perturbed. But when the H3 rolled out, I said f%$k it... I'm not buying ANYTHING from AM ever. Mainly because the company has given into the pressures of sales. They'd rather have crap vehicles that LOOK like the original, but they can't perform nearly as well as the original.
H1 - around $120K
H2 - I think around $50K-$60K
H3 - Made to compete with the Jeep Cherokee or Wrangler.... I forgot which... so that's gotta be around $30K - $35K
uh...
I forgot what my post was all about.
f%$k it...
What the hell did you want an H1 for? They shouldn't be street legal, IMO, as they are as wide as a semi...litterally. They aren't very great for off-roading (real off-roading like rock crawling) but they are durable when abused in a desert, hence the use by the army.
Unless you're driving around in a (relatively flat) desert, WTF?
Aplitz wins. :)
-Turd.
Quote from: Turd Ferguson on November 15, 2006, 08:51:01 PM
What the hell did you want an H1 for? They shouldn't be street legal, IMO, as they are as wide as a semi...litterally. They aren't very great for off-roading (real off-roading like rock crawling) but they are durable when abused in a desert, hence the use by the army.
Unless you're driving around in a (relatively flat) desert, WTF?
Aplitz wins. :)
-Turd.
i dont know, when ive been out on the trails, ive seen H1s doing QUITE well crawling over rocks.
Hell, one pulled my ass out when i got stuck, so they are ok in my book ;)
well all i know is if you want an exotic car then you need to work on one first then you will not want one any more. :laugh: i know. and whats up with the big a## wheels i mean you will hurt your self with some of them. :2guns:
Quote from: Turd Ferguson on November 15, 2006, 08:51:01 PM
What the hell did you want an H1 for? They shouldn't be street legal, IMO, as they are as wide as a semi...litterally. They aren't very great for off-roading (real off-roading like rock crawling) but they are durable when abused in a desert, hence the use by the army.
Unless you're driving around in a (relatively flat) desert, WTF?
Aplitz wins. :)
-Turd.
Actually, did you know that the H1 is not as wide as a dual-wheeled pickup truck? I was talking to some guys are my local tire shop, and they told me that they've done a couple H1's, which fit on their drive-on lift, but they have NEVER been able to do a p/u with dual wheels in the rear. I was shocked.
Quote from: jdanna on November 15, 2006, 09:53:13 PM
i dont know, when ive been out on the trails, ive seen H1s doing QUITE well crawling over rocks.
Hell, one pulled my ass out when i got stuck, so they are ok in my book ;)
jdanna is right about this. H1's are very capable off-roading vehicles. The only vehicles that can outperform an H1 (as far as I know) are the jeep wrangler types that have rock climbing tires and a huge lift kit. Otherwise, H1's are awesome.
Quote from: annguyen1981 on November 15, 2006, 11:08:17 PM
jdanna is right about this. H1's are very capable off-roading vehicles. The only vehicles that can outperform an H1 (as far as I know) are the jeep wrangler types that have rock climbing tires and a huge lift kit. Otherwise, H1's are awesome.
You can build a toyota that will beat up on an H1 pretty easily, but yea, stock, there isnt much out there to beat an H1.
A wrangler rubicon could out rockcrawl it, but thats about all.
Quote from: jdanna on November 16, 2006, 01:43:32 AM
Quote from: annguyen1981 on November 15, 2006, 11:08:17 PM
jdanna is right about this. H1's are very capable off-roading vehicles. The only vehicles that can outperform an H1 (as far as I know) are the jeep wrangler types that have rock climbing tires and a huge lift kit. Otherwise, H1's are awesome.
You can build a toyota that will beat up on an H1 pretty easily, but yea, stock, there isnt much out there to beat an H1.
A wrangler rubicon could out rockcrawl it, but thats about all.
I've got some pictures of an H1 driving out of a "ditch"...
Now when I say "ditch"... I really mean huge gaping hole. :o
I'll scan them in and post 'em when I'm not lazy.
Quote from: jdanna on November 16, 2006, 01:43:32 AM
You can build a toyota that will beat up on an H1 pretty easily...
I can build a supra that will outperform a Maranello. Thou hath mithed the pointh.
Wow... I totally offended a bunch of you. :laugh:
My post would be really long if I answered all the questions and refuted all the accusations.
So... I'll do my own Cliff's notes.
I would spend $600,000 on a house I thought would retain its value... If I could sell it in 10 years for a 30% profit, then it's all good.
I would put $50,000 into a bond or CD.
I would not spend $60,000 on a new car, 'cause that car will be worth $40k as soon as I drive it off the lot...
New Cars, new motorcycles, TVs, computers, etc are not investments, they are consumables... Like toilet paper. Once you buy them, they won't go up in value (unless you wait 40 years for them to be collectable... And even then, the chances of the value exceeding inflation is almost nil).
Now... Classic cars and bikes are totally different. I could buy a '66 WV Bug for $1000, put $3000 into it, and have a car that's worth $6000. Now, do that same thing to a Norton, BSA, Roadrunner, etc... And you can have a bike/car that's worth $20,000.
In my opinion, someone that spends "a lot" of money on a TV is stupid. My 4 year old 32" TV let's me watch my movies and shows just as well as a $4000 brand new TV. I just have to move my eyes less... (and in all reality, the picture looks better 'cause it's smaller... It's the same amount of info being sent to the screen, but the GIANT TV only magnifies the flaws... Which is why I hate my sister's $4000 TV... It's hard to watch).
The same goes for people that want to impress people with their over-priced Porche SUV or BMW M3.
Those of you that live in LA should know what I'm talking about... You see these people driving around in a $50,000 car, but they can't afford their rent. :dunno_white: What's the point of that?
I think that everyone should spend their money wisely. If you net $500,000 a year, you should invest $400,000 a year until you have enough money to live for the rest of your life in the manner to which you are accustom... After that, who really cares.... But, spending $100,000 on a car is selfish, irresponsible, and frankly stupid.
If you make $50,000 a year and you're driving a $50,000 car... You have your priorities upside down.
If you make $25,000 a year and you watch a $4,000 TV... Your priorities are upside down.
If you can only afford to make minimum payments on your credit cards, yet you always have the latest high-tech thing in your house, then you need mental help.
At any given time, you should have a minimum of 6 months liquid salary in the bank... And that money should be making you some money.
If you can afford to spend $80,000 on a car, then you can afford to put $8k a year in a savings account, CD, IRA, etc and drive a $40,000 car.
Not like anyone cares... You can all go around flaunting your tiny little peckers and rubbing each other's egos to make yourselves feel better than mommy and daddy didn't get you the bicycle you wanted when you were eight...
Heh... Not like ANYONE that rides a GS and has no other bikes can even afford a f%$king race car. :flipoff:
So... If I offended you or your tiny little pecker... Good. Go spend your money on bullshit until the day you move into a homeless shelter instead of a retirement home. Have lots of fun while you're young, 'cause your "Golden Years" are gonna suck.
Quote from: annguyen1981 on November 15, 2006, 08:08:10 PMSo... You DON'T want to EVER upgrade your bike?
Basically, you said everything a poor person says. I'm sorry to say this, but you, my friend, are part of the 95% thinkers of the world. I'm 100% sure that if you had a chance to DOUBLE or maybe TRIPLE your income, you'd be buying a fancier car, nicer bike, maybe even buy a bigger house.
It's human nature. Nothing wrong with it.
Wow... For how much you post, you sure don't read very well... I said I don't like 'busas... I never said that I didn't love Thruxtons...
And... If I doubled my income, I WOULD have a better bike, a better car, and a better house... I'd have an M50 and a GS500... I'd have a better Hyundia (rather than the mid-level one) and I'd live in a house, rather than a condo.
But, my point is... I'm spending an appropriate amount of money on each thing. At the end of each month, I have money left... My condo is my biggest bill... Mortgage, H.O. Insurance, upkeep, etc, etc... Then the next one is the car... It's 1/6 of my total house bills... My GS is paid for... My F.O.R.D. Exploder is paid for... My TV is paid for... Everything else I own is paid for............ My Credit Cards are paid off... And I put money into savings each month... Then when it's big enough, I invest.
Do you get it now?
Anyone?
Does anyone see my point yet?
No? Still lost? OK then... Refer to the closing statements of my last post in this thread.
Quote from: RVertigo on November 16, 2006, 02:20:43 PM
Wow... blah blah blah BLAH blah bla ...thread.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: I'm f%$king hilarious :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
hey i got a gs because i wanted a gs not that that's all i can aford if i wanted the hd v-rod or the busa then i would have got it but why when the gs is a good bike at a good price. just because you have it you don't have to flaunt it :cheers:
Quote from: cafeboy on November 16, 2006, 02:29:41 PM
hey i got a gs because i wanted a gs not that that's all i can afford if i wanted the hd v-rod or the busa then i would have got it but why when the gs is a good bike at a good price. just because you have it you don't have to flaunt it :cheers:
:thumb:
I got a GS, 'cause I wanted a bike... And my coworker had one for sale... It was cheap and easy...
But, once I started riding it, I realized that it's a great bike... And... It's right for me... 'cause if I had a moto that would do 140, I'd be doing 140. :dunno_white:
Quote from: RVertigo on November 16, 2006, 02:37:24 PM
I got a GS, 'cause I wanted a bike... And my coworker had one for sale... It was cheap and easy...
But, once I started riding it, I realized that it's a great bike... And... It's right for me... 'cause if I had a moto that would do 140, I'd be doing 140. :dunno_white:
oh I get it now! You don't like fine quality machines because you have a complete lack of self control! It's all a nice clear picture now!
Quote from: makenzie71 on November 16, 2006, 03:44:30 PM
Quote from: RVertigo on November 16, 2006, 02:37:24 PM
I got a GS, 'cause I wanted a bike... And my coworker had one for sale... It was cheap and easy...
But, once I started riding it, I realized that it's a great bike... And... It's right for me... 'cause if I had a moto that would do 140, I'd be doing 140. :dunno_white:
oh I get it now! You don't like fine quality machines because you have a complete lack of self control! It's all a nice clear picture now!
(http://www.photoartclub.net/gshimount/gshimount4.jpg)
just poking around buddy don't get mad
My SVS can beat up your GS. :flipoff:
Quote from: pandy on November 16, 2006, 03:57:25 PM
My SVS can beat up your GS. :flipoff:
no it can't it's always on it's side :o
i'm sorry i'm so mean. bad bad bad me i need the whip
Quote from: cafeboy on November 16, 2006, 04:00:28 PM
no it can't it's always on it's side :o i'm sorry i'm so mean. bad bad bad me i need the whip
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i134/dlchris1/whip.gif)
He had to learn how to fight lyin' down. :P :laugh:
Quote from: RVertigo on November 16, 2006, 02:09:25 PM
But, my point is... I'm spending an appropriate amount of money on each thing.
well, you're also assuming everyone that has nice/expensive things ARENT spending appropriately to their income level...thats my issue with this point of view. Yes, especially here in LaLa you see people spending above their ability, but I think its just more prevalent here because you see it in the form of big money items. I think overall our culture has this spending attitude. I mean, look at how much (little) everyone has in savings...
And not everyone is so black and white about it. some people might splurge a bit here or there but otherwise be frugal. Hey, I bought marchesini wheels because I
could, but yet I have a 10 yr old car thats paid off and no plans to sell/upgrade/etc. the car.
I'm glad you've managed to figure out the finances thing as you have-thats a great way to live. Others believe in credit.
Ironically, the more money one makes the easier it is to afford things. For example, if I made $50,000 a year and bought a $15,000 car (approximately a Scion xB for example), that represents a little less than 1/3 my yearly income. And that leaves X amount for living expenses. If I made $500,000 a year and bought a $150,000 car I am in a better fiscal situation, because my living expenses havent gone up by 10x, although I could live it up and spend 5x as much on nicer things, and still have money to
shield from the tax man, making me come out even farther ahead...
Quote from: makenzie71 on November 16, 2006, 03:44:30 PMYou don't like fine quality machines
The GS isn't a "Fine Quality" Machine?
Dude... If you hate the GS so much, why are you here? Just to talk shaZam! and stomp around saying how right you are, when you're actually wrong?
:icon_rolleyes:
Again... Like anyone that only owns a GS can afford a race car...
Everyone that was insulted by my comments is just insulted by the theory, not the practice... :flipoff:
And I stand by this comment, "Anyone that drives a :bs: car like that is missing something from their personality or their life."
Quote from: RVertigo on November 16, 2006, 05:34:26 PM
And I stand by this comment, "Anyone that drives a :bs: car like that is missing something from their personality or their life."
yeah, like trackdays...
:flipoff:
Yeah... Or paintball. :laugh: Damn I used to spend a lot on paintball...
QuoteThe GS isn't a "Fine Quality" Machine?
Dude... If you hate the GS so much, why are you here? Just to talk shaZam! and stomp around saying how right you are, when you're actually wrong?
First, I love all machines. I never once said I hated the GS, or even implied it.
Second, I'm not the one talking shaZam!...
you are the one saying that people who make more in a month than you make in a year are wanks, and anyone who drives quality machines like a Lotus Elise has small pee pee, deficit personallities, or mental inadequacies.
I'd hate to hear what you think about people who sponsor bike/car racers or the manufacturers who produce machines like the GSVR and RC211V or anyone who has a private jet...poor bastards...
Quote from: makenzie71 on November 16, 2006, 01:43:22 PM
Quote from: jdanna on November 16, 2006, 01:43:32 AM
You can build a toyota that will beat up on an H1 pretty easily...
I can build a supra that will outperform a Maranello. Thou hath mithed the pointh.
Oh no, i get the point and i totally agree.
I just love me some toyotas, supras are awsome ;)
haha me too...always been a Supra fan...had one of each generation...I miss my 1984 P-Type MKII Supra tremendously...just an awesome machine. One of my brother's buddies had an old toyota truck that was rusted all to hell...there were places you could reach all the way through the body into the cab/bed...he used it to "unstick" all the people who got there 10" lifted chevies and fords from the trails lol...
Quote from: RVertigo on November 16, 2006, 02:09:25 PM
In my opinion, someone that spends "a lot" of money on a TV is stupid. My 4 year old 32" TV let's me watch my movies and shows just as well as a $4000 brand new TV. I just have to move my eyes less... (and in all reality, the picture looks better 'cause it's smaller... It's the same amount of info being sent to the screen, but the GIANT TV only magnifies the flaws... Which is why I hate my sister's $4000 TV... It's hard to watch).
Its all about what is important to you. If you dont so much care about picture quality, fine, but i dont see a problem with spending assloads of money on a tv.
Granted - Flat screen TVs suck ass. End of story. Not even the newest, most expensive flat panel hdtv (lcd or plasma) can compare to a 10 year old sony CRT HDTV.
At work, we have a $40,000 34" HD broadcast monitor. And i can tell you from personal experience, that to the untrained eye, it is indistinguishable from reality. We had a party one time, and we pointed an HD camera at a fishtank in another room, made a bezel out of black cardboard around the monitor, and fed fishtankvision into it. Most people went the whole night with NO IDEA it wasnt a real fishtank.
Now i know nothing in consumer-land will ever compare to that, but a good quality HDTV, when set up properly and fed an HD signal, is well worth the pricetag to those of us that are picture snobs and can tell the difference.
So...cliffnotes again:
Don't spend too much. Moderate yourself.
Spend the money you can on things you enjoy. You don't live forever, and if you spend your life saving for later, you'll get to later and not have any idea on what to do with yourself or be dead.
I am a poor college student. I work 20 hrs a week, go to school full time and have no loans out. I recently bought $450 worth of bicycle wheels because I had put money aside, apart from my savings account, and I'm damn glad I did it. I now ride my bicycle to work, saving me gas money. That gas money COULD go into my savings/investment, but I've been spending it on going out. Sue me, but I like to go out and like to ride my bicycle where/when I can.
Now...my iPod...that's a different story, but not too different.
This whole calling names things just destroys any point you began to make. I agree that many people spend too much money on things is a great observaration, but to say its because they have small peckers is one of the great fallacies. What about the women who enjoy a fine car? Kinda puts a damper on the gonad theory (or does it? :o).
There are many people who can afford a nice vehicle/bike, make the payments on their house, and save for retirement. Some walk a more narrow line than others, not because they are stupid, but because not everyone believes in saving for some far off uncertainty we call 'retirement.'
Cancer, car wrecks, street violence, asteroid strike, robot attack, etc could all easily negate that great plan for the future. If you work hard, only to die early, what purpose did your sacrifice serve? Could one enjoy a MV Augusta to its fullest at 65? I don't think that divine torture rack would have quite the same allure during one's Golden Years.
What we have here is a failure to understand individual rights. I can say all day long that your 32" tv is a waste compared to my free 27", but where does it stop? A thief who stole a 25" could trump me, and some hobo with a black and white tv that he was paid to take away could beat him, and so on.
As long as people's actions do not bring detriment into your life, or the lives of others, it shouldn't really matter. Once you learn this lesson , the world becomes a more understandable place. Until then, it would be to your benefit to stop with the useless pee pee rhetoric you read in a 'psychology' book while brousing at Borders, a pop-psych book that was itself gleaned from a poor synthesis of Freud.
You are all poopyheads. That is all.
Quote from: Egaeus on November 16, 2006, 08:01:29 PM
You are all poopyheads. That is all.
DOO DOO FACE! DOO DOO FACE!
what dizzy's point is. that if you don't save something then it put others in this (http://foulmouthshirts.com/crap/political/images/Work%20harder%20millions%20on%20welfare%20depend%20on%20you.jpg)
okay, back on topic:
QuoteThis story hit the EliseTalk forums yesterday -- it all starts with an Lotus owner in Orlando, FL who took his Elise into Goodyear to drop a new set of tires on his canary yellow grip-tight speedster. And the result was -- well, let's just say we'd be laughing if we weren't crying so hard. Here's the story, straight from forum member and dented-Elise owner qball:
First of all, I did EVERYTHING I was supposed to except stick around and watch.
Dropped my Elise off to the local Goodyear shop to have new F1G3s installed. My Father-in-law is the service manager and has been for 10 years. He is out on medical leave, but he met me at the shop this morning, because he understands the uniqueness of the car.
I handed them the tire tools and opened the Owner's Manual to the jacking instructions so they would be clear. We went over all the instructions and they assured me I was in good hands.
We left...1 hour later I get a call about the "accident" and that I needed to come down...
WTF!
So this is what I found... (see pics)
It get's better... They said they read the manual, but not to the point where it spoke about the 4-point lift. After the crash, they continued reading. Yipee for me.
The damage is inclusive of the rear clam, front clam, underneath the driver's door, and a nice puncture through the bottom diffuser around the passenger seat area.
Quote from: Mk1inCali on November 16, 2006, 07:30:29 PM
So...cliffnotes again:
Don't spend too much. Moderate yourself.
Spend the money you can on things you enjoy. You don't live forever, and if you spend your life saving for later, you'll get to later and not have any idea on what to do with yourself or be dead.
I am a poor college student. I work 20 hrs a week, go to school full time and have no loans out. I recently bought $450 worth of bicycle wheels because I had put money aside, apart from my savings account, and I'm damn glad I did it. I now ride my bicycle to work, saving me gas money. That gas money COULD go into my savings/investment, but I've been spending it on going out. Sue me, but I like to go out and like to ride my bicycle where/when I can.
Now...my iPod...that's a different story, but not too different.
Thankz you Anthony. I was gonna make a whole post similar to this. Basically, live within your means.
I do agree with RVert's stand on how lots of people spend more than what they can afford, but if you can afford it, why not? As Anthony stated, you only live once. Might as well live it.
Just to say this...I know this guy who has the limited edition purple pace car corvette....OMG so frickin nice. But the guy is the nicest guy in the world. He bought it as something he wanted to just "collect" and just leaves it in is garage and he drive and only pick-up eveyrday. Granted his wife has a nice car, two daughters: one drives a limited edition monte carlo and the other drives a mustange gt and he has an enourmous house with an inground pull. One daughter is going to UGA and the other next year some private college. However if you ever met this family on the street you would suspect they were in a lower middle class family. They dont care for fancy clothes or try to show off. Just a humble family.........I have know idea where I am going now, just wanted to say THAT IS A NIIIIIIIIIICE CAR.. :laugh:
PS but I think the corvette follows what vert was saying about increasing in value :dunno_white:
Quote from: pantablo on November 16, 2006, 10:48:22 PM
okay, back on topic:
This thread had a topic? :dunno_white:
Quote from: RVertigo on November 17, 2006, 12:42:03 PM
Quote from: pantablo on November 16, 2006, 10:48:22 PM
okay, back on topic:
This thread had a topic? :dunno_white:
Denyng it now only makes things worse. I have four witnesses who saw you fleeing the scene of the murder back on page one with ink on your hands...
No, no--it was the butler in the library with a candlestick!
No, it was Srinath. I saw him. He had the ink pot and everything. :bs:
Quote from: makenzie71 on November 17, 2006, 01:14:45 PM
Quote from: RVertigo on November 17, 2006, 12:42:03 PM
Quote from: pantablo on November 16, 2006, 10:48:22 PM
okay, back on topic:
This thread had a topic? :dunno_white:
Denyng it now only makes things worse. I have four witnesses who saw you fleeing the scene of the murder back on page one with ink on your hands...
Denying what? The original topic?
'cause... I'm not denying that you have a tiny little pecker...
Quote from: RVertigo on November 17, 2006, 02:11:36 PM
'cause... I'm not denying that you have a tiny little pecker...
I'm sorry I wasn't as big as you're used to taking.
Quote from: makenzie71 on November 17, 2006, 02:17:24 PMI'm sorry I wasn't as big as you're used to taking.
It's ok dude... Genetics are a Buddha Loves You... Someone has to be small. :dunno_white:
Although, I have to give you praise for admitting one fault... Now, only if you could admit when you're wrong.
Oh well... I'll hope for you to admit you're wrong once in your life and you can hope for a normal-sized pecker.
move along, nothing to see.