wow you know all these years of taxes and I never really realized how much was going out of my check each week. I had a friend who told me she made every two weeks and how much the taxes were on her checks. She makes more than I do. so I was like how is the govt. taken over 500$ a month out of my checks yet taken less out of her cheks and we share the same status. I should have claimed some other thing on taxes. I am trying to find the happy medium between paying taxes just enough so that I wont have to pay at the end nor recieve any back.
but I sure as hell could have a nice motorcycle for that amount a month!!!!!!!
its cool though if all works well because I am paying the highest in status I can I should have a crap load of money back this year or for 2006, also I get to claim all of my taxes back up to 3000$ in VA for being a member of the Air National Guard.
Just wait until you own real estate. Your tax refund with be HUGE. I can't wait to pay my taxes this year.
I have a fealing this year will not be fun claiming 2006, because I purchased stocks and mutual funds... I have no idea to claim or not to claim or what to do about all that. but my philosophy on that is I dont have money in my hand from those stocks infact its tied up so I do not consider it income.
I know what you mean about paying all those taxes. I've heard of people actually getting back a bigger tax refund than they actually paid in. What a bunch of losers, living off you and I. I've always had a philosophy of if you don't earn your money you don't deserve it. The stupid government actually has a tax entitlement called "Earned" Income Credit. Everyone should pay their fair share to support themselves and what services, etc. that they take advantage of. I won't even get into the wasteful spending of the government.
my coworker has 3 kids an a stay at home wife, he pays in little to nothin eachweek, an the last 2 years he has gotten back arund 7k in both. one year he bought a pool, last year he bought a bunch of high end beanie babies, :bs: thats crazy.
yea its wierd because when I was on active duty military the govt hooked me up and I didnt have to pay much in. I didnt get a huge return but I didnt have to pay a lot in plus the govt hooked me up with tons of extra living expense money which ofcourse I used for fun lol. I miss active duty I made more with the airforce than I do civilian job and I work twice as hard now have more responsibility and am 100% more dirty plus I gotta deal with civilians and you know how that goes not everyone in the civilian world is very respectfull or knows how to do their job , but in the airforce if you dont respect or know how to do your job your out of there. Im going to try and work the system soon though maybe claim a few things here and there with the use of technicalities :) I got my dad back an extra 500$ last year off a technicality just because of the way they worded somthing in the tax laws.
even though I love my country and I fight for it in the air national gaurd, I still think they waste too much money and need to make it so people pay their fair share. and I am blaming this on all parties and all wings of politics! I dont understand why the democrats keep attacking people who make more money and saying that they need to pay more because that makes me want to have a shitty job for the rest of my life if I gotta pay a crap load more just because im more successfull than bubba and his lazy ass. and what about all those people with like 200 kids and 100 babies daddy's or babies momma's , they actually make off pretty nice with all that welfare and food stamps. now im not saying everyone does because certain people actually do need it. but I do not want to pay for other peoples mistakes and thats what we do every day pay for the f%$k ups of America and the world to be honest. we continue to pay out money to other countries , LET THEM FIGURE THIER OWN CRAP OUT. now I am for the war because I think the middle east needs to be taught a lesson hell most of the world needs to be taught a lesson, but On the note of helping the people with our American dollars ... F that! blow the place up and let them figure their own crap out, and if they come over here and continue to F with us then they get more bombs and more people like me sticking a m16 to there freeken towel heads. and that goes for the freeken mexicans coming over here illeagal too! I did border patrol for 3 months in AZ on the mexican border and I had them in my sites so many times and couldnt pull the trigger because of the political bullcrap AND OH did I want to pop them off and not let them come over illeagaly..... and what do we do? we start posting spanish on everything and giving them help and money out of MY f%$king PAY CHECK!! I refuse to help anyone who cannot speek english and lives here, I refuse to even acknowledge them as people.
IM DONE WITH MY RANT and there is plenty more but for now that will do...!
Quote from: Susuki_Jah on January 12, 2007, 05:29:55 PM
I refuse to help anyone who cannot speek english and lives here, I refuse to even acknowledge them as people.
OMW?!?!?!? Is that you, dude?
if you want to learn english that is cool Im all for helping and lending a hand .. but if you refuse to and still live here ... screw that. I help people who need help and I do it every day. infact give one of my employees a ride home from work every night because the guy needs to get back on his feet again has a family and lives in the projects at the time. so im not a cold hearted dude I go out of my way to help people but only those who are sincer (sp).
well this is the usa, and teh language is english. my pov is i welcome anyone that wants to come here legally, or through asylum ( leaving a totally f%&ked up place to come here), as long as they are or end up legal. thats what makes our country as good as it is. but when i got my health insurance paperwork or instructions for whatever, the mailings were huge, im thinkin damn lots - info here. nope a short paragraph in about 15 different languages. taxes on the opther hand, are hmmm funny. its quite known that the govt wastes money. i just wish i could get a line by line list of teh budget. im bored i want to read this. if found parts of it, but i want to find the complete budget, i want to see how this money is spent. plus that makes for a more informed voter come election time.
Hey Rambo, that's what we need to do.. Kill some more people, yeah that's it! Cause they hate us and we pissed all over they're religon...cause our way is they only way! If any one gets in the one kill them too! That's sure to make this world a better place!
How about instead of pouring all that money and blood into a giant sand dune, spend it on research to fine and build a better energy source. Build the infrastructure to handle it.
Then tell all those nutballs over in the middle east to stick they're oil up theyer hind end! By by dollars... Leave them and that god foresaken land alone, and let them get back to killing each other.
Quote from: Jake D on January 12, 2007, 10:12:04 AM
Just wait until you own real estate. Your tax refund with be HUGE. I can't wait to pay my taxes this year.
just wait till you are self employed...I BUY the IRS a ducati 1098 every fiscal QUARTER.
Quote from: rob1bike on January 12, 2007, 09:43:36 PM
Hey Rambo, that's what we need to do.. Kill some more people, yeah that's it! Cause they hate us and we pissed all over they're religon...cause our way is they only way! If any one gets in the one kill them too! That's sure to make this world a better place!
How about instead of pouring all that money and blood into a giant sand dune, spend it on research to fine and build a better energy source. Build the infrastructure to handle it.
Then tell all those nutballs over in the middle east to stick they're oil up theyer hind end! By by dollars... Leave them and that god foresaken land alone, and let them get back to killing each other.
why the hell do we need research on a better energy source we already know what is a better energy source. but its the idiots of America that are scared of nuclear power. clean and efficient. Its the people voting against them in their towns. we already know just about every energy source to be tapped out there its just a matter of praticality and cost. I could care less who hates us dude. we support the entire world if we feel like dropping a bombe on someone who wants to screw with us then we have every right. Just Like I have a right to pop a few rounds in the jack ass that tries to rob me downtown again. Yes I have been robbed before I had my concealed weapons license. Next time they wont be so lucky.
and thanks for the compliment! RAMBO rocks.
this doesnt need to turn into a war hating president bashing thread. we know taxes suck and need to change. unfortunatly I think the new party change in office is only going to make it worse see as how im classified as RICH in the democrats eyes I probly will get taxed even more and the guy that is self employed well he will probly be buying the govt ferrarri's pretty soon :(.
SAY THANK YOU LIBERAL AMERICA
back to the 50's where life was good. aside from the womens and color rights.... because those changed for the better but the comradery and the living was good in the 50's and the cars rocked
let me sum up the next few post for everyone....
"peace love and harmony for all people of the earth." "why are you so mean Jah, why cant you embrace the love of other nations, other nations dont like us so you should submit and say your sorry for the mean things you say, it hurt their feelings. youre tax money needs to go to learning how to run cars off soy and toffu so we can eat vegitables why we drive our slow ass cars to work in the city where everyone rides a bike, bikes makes me happy la lala la la prancing in the fields. "
that will take care of a few post :)
_Jah,,,, you just made my night!!!!!! Now I don't care who ya are,, thats funny right there.
Yeah Rambo was a pretty cool fictional character. He was most admired for his high level of intellect!!!!
I don't really wanna turn this into some left vs right debate...point is taxes suck! I'm a small buisness owner.. Have 3 employees, you think buying a 1098 every quarter sux, how about a paying workers comp. Its a % of the income you pay out. Then get into taxes.. The only way to avoid paying taxes on income is to tie that cash into some thing for the buisness, supplies, hardgoods, a vehicle... Now your goind yeah that sounds great, I'd like to do that, buy a hummer, logo it and right it off... ? I don't wanna buy that crap, I wanna save that money, not spend it! Nope sorry that's taxable income. I'm not rich. At all. Sometimes I'm freaking wondering how I'm gunna pay my guys, but I'll buy uncle sam a new small house every year... That's a great system!!!
FLAT FEDERAL TAX! You spend it your taxed... You don't your not....no more hidding money from uncle sam, you buy a $400,000 dollar house to hide some money, nope bamm! That 25% fed tax please! You save it to give your kids in 50 years...no tax.
And those aren't even the good arguements for the flat tax...research it, I'd give you some links but my hands are tired from written checks....
you got a point there rob, plain point, if ppl want tog et rid of wasteful spending, vote all of teh wasteful spenders out of office thats all, and keep the wannabes on notice, if they waste, theyre gone
Its funny to hear ppl rant about money going to social services when:
http://nationalpriorities.org/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=182 (http://nationalpriorities.org/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=182)
Even if you agree with the war this is a bigger black hole for american tax money than anything else at the moment. They are paying like 100k a year for civilian contractors to do menial work over there.
Is it not unfair to blame your taxes or problems on illegal aliens, when a very high percentage of them are employed at jobs that Americans aren't competing for? Graveyard janitor shift at Wal-Mart, anyone? Bussing tables anyone? Picking strawberries 6am-6pm anyone?
No doubt the government has waste to trim, but I don't think poor people as a whole (or illegal aliens) are getting rich off the government.
If you are talking about the contractors in Iraq,hold up for a second, they aren't like going to the mall to work security... They are going into a WAR! Lawless insanity! My friend is a mech.engineer. He went over to do some rebuulding work... Yeah $350,000 is a nice check, 25 of his "co-workers" were killed. These aren't GI joes, he's a nerd..total tech geek. Remember the beheadings? He knew 2 of those guys..he worked with them. That's nuts
Now I'm not at all saying they don't waste the dollar, just wanted you to know that..he's still not right, he's been back for a year, they built a nice home, but he's still wacked.
Quote from: rob1bike on January 13, 2007, 02:01:43 AM
Yeah Rambo was a pretty cool fictional character. He was most admired for his high level of intellect!!!!
I don't really wanna turn this into some left vs right debate...point is taxes suck! I'm a small buisness owner.. Have 3 employees, you think buying a 1098 every quarter sux, how about a paying workers comp. Its a % of the income you pay out. Then get into taxes.. The only way to avoid paying taxes on income is to tie that cash into some thing for the buisness, supplies, hardgoods, a vehicle... Now your goind yeah that sounds great, I'd like to do that, buy a hummer, logo it and right it off... ? I don't wanna buy that crap, I wanna save that money, not spend it! Nope sorry that's taxable income. I'm not rich. At all. Sometimes I'm freaking wondering how I'm gunna pay my guys, but I'll buy uncle sam a new small house every year... That's a great system!!!
FLAT FEDERAL TAX! You spend it your taxed... You don't your not....no more hidding money from uncle sam, you buy a $400,000 dollar house to hide some money, nope bamm! That 25% fed tax please! You save it to give your kids in 50 years...no tax.
And those aren't even the good arguements for the flat tax...research it, I'd give you some links but my hands are tired from written checks....
arent you taxed more when you actually own your house instead of having a mortgage? because of some tax breaks you get having a mortgage. I actually get to write off a lot of equipment for work because I had to buy all my tools to be a fabricator/welder . I understand its hard on you guys who own business's my boss uses me as his personal theropist it seems lol so I get to hear it all from him. you know last year I was short 10$ from paying my tax return because of a simple math error on my part and they went crazy with calling me and sending me letters and making sure I paid them that 10 dollars I told the lady that I couldnt believe they made such a fuss over it, like I was some kind of criminal . I own a small photography company although it is "freelance" ;) ;) if you know what I mean. its all cash or check and that goes into my pocket although when it starts getting bigger I will probly have to take the hit. Right now it does really well off word of mouth and web exposure. and when I need to hire a helper or another photographer to help at times its all under the table as well.
one of the biggest things I have yet to understand is a tax on gifts or bonuses .... why would you get taxed on somthing givin to you ?
I made a 10k bonus for joining the airforce. first I got 5k then it gets paid out to me over my enlistment term of 6 years. so it comes time to receive my first 5k.... nope dont get 5k I get 3500$ after the taxes on a bonus! so im like ok I joined the airforce i could possibly lose my life for this country and they still want to tax the little bit of money that is rewarded to me? for what what the hell do they need it for .. I mean they gave it to me in the first place.
then if you inherit a lot of money it is taxed on top of what was already taxed out of it just because you were givin that? i dont get it. when I leave money to my kids I will give them specific instructions to never tell a soul about it nor to claim anything on taxes about it. and like I said before I dont even know how to start with my stocks and mutual funds im sure ill get screwed some way with them as well.
Lol, yeah the tax system is wacked! The irs wants every penny you owe them! Think 10 bucks is bad try 10,000 bucks they don't play.
Its funny what they tax and how there are loop holes to hide stuff. My buddie is a cpa for a horse stable that had a few derby horses. That's crazy big money in this area...polo, people with way more money then brains. He comes up with very clever ways to hide money and what not.
Quote from: nightrider on January 13, 2007, 02:37:51 AM
Its funny to hear ppl rant about money going to social services when:
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Even if you agree with the war this is a bigger black hole for american tax money than anything else at the moment. They are paying like 100k a year for civilian contractors to do menial work over there.
Is it not unfair to blame your taxes or problems on illegal aliens, when a very high percentage of them are employed at jobs that Americans aren't competing for? Graveyard janitor shift at Wal-Mart, anyone? Bussing tables anyone? Picking strawberries 6am-6pm anyone?
No doubt the government has waste to trim, but I don't think poor people as a whole (or illegal aliens) are getting rich off the government.
well poor people in general I dont think are getting rich.. I have been in the poor house for a few years in the past.. it is not fun trying to pray for gas money to get to work and trying to figure out where your dinner is coming from and all you have is a bag of chips out of the vending machine because you scrounged up everything you had to make the rent. YEA IT SUX.
Thank God I am not in that situation anymore and I do well.
but it is the people who take advantage of the system. who use their minority status to claim things they dont deserve. so on and so on.
even some of the poorest people in America live like kings compared to people in other countries. yet we still have the idea that we owe them someone. I never got a dime from the govt when I was poor and didnt expect to either. I just wish we could actually force people to work for thier money instead of just giving it to them..
here is a really good example and will probly piss a lot of you off as it did me.
my ex gf went on that zoloft or whatever the anti depression pill. then she went and claimed disibility and gets 800$ a month just because she has "anxiety" WTF i have anxiety the whole world has anxiety! but she gets paid for it. and she is freeken normal I swear its just a easy way to get money. all she did was go to the docter docter said she doesnt have to work because of it.... send it in .. gets 800$ a month for nothing... and this system works how?
+1. But I can't live on 800 a month....or don't want to try...did that 10 years ago.
Yeah it sux how people milk the system...double dipping!
I think welfare is a good idea, to a limit. Not a open ended check! After a time limit, sorry no more free cheese for you time to pick up a shovel!
I see it in the construction field, all the brick layers around here are mexican, most if not all are illegal. I've seen em haul azz from imigration. But no one wants to be a mason? Its frikn hard,back breaking work. They'd rather sit back have kids and get their check!
I did be like oh, you wanna be on the dole? Well 1st get your tubes tied or get the depo shot or whatever then well set you up, but only for x amount of time.
Quote from: rob1bike on January 13, 2007, 10:05:44 AM
+1. But I can't live on 800 a month....or don't want to try...did that 10 years ago.
Yeah it sux how people milk the system...double dipping!
I think welfare is a good idea, to a limit. Not a open ended check! After a time limit, sorry no more free cheese for you time to pick up a shovel!
I see it in the construction field, all the brick layers around here are mexican, most if not all are illegal. I've seen em haul azz from imigration. But no one wants to be a mason? Its frikn hard,back breaking work. They'd rather sit back have kids and get their check!
I did be like oh, you wanna be on the dole? Well 1st get your tubes tied or get the depo shot or whatever then well set you up, but only for x amount of time.
agreed. somtimes I come off harsh because I just get fed up with everything. being on the border patrol made me even hate illeagal immagration more. but anyways I know that taxes are still needed I guess ill just have to keep striving to make more and more and more money untill i feel im living comfortably enough lol.
I work as a fabricator welder for a steel erection company and it is hard freeken work infact im sick of it. im going back to doing photography as my full time job . kinda sick of being black and dirty all day although I have no need to go to a gym considering I work with steel all day haha. but it is a good point that no one really wants to work the contruction stuff all the time. its good for a little while but it makes you OLD REAL QUICK!
Hope the govt. doesnt rape you too bad this year
Dam! Yeah, steel work is nasty! I weld some custom tables and what not ever now and then, leaves me worn and dirty!!! I know how you feel.
Sorry the unicycle pic is not what I wanted to post there, I fixed it. (haha)
re contractors in iraq:
100k, or actually 120k is what the lady makes who sits in the computer room where base employees and soldiers go to check their email.
The vast majority of "contracters" are not ex-special forces security, but drivers, cooks, janitors, laborers, etc.
Numerous contractors, ie. staff or administrative types, who never leave the bases in Iraq or Afghanistan, are supplied with pimped-out SUVs with leather, sound system, rims, etc. There are pictures of rows of them being unused, they are never driven off of the base.
The companies are paid on a cost-plus basis. That means they are compensated for all of their costs, plus a percentage. Thus, more cost = more percentage. As a result, $80,000 semi rigs are torched by the side of the road for lack of an oil filter, or a flat tire, etc. Ordered shipment of wrong computers? Smashed with bulldozers and written up. Why do it for 100k and make 10k when you can make 100k by costing $1 million?
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Quote from: Susuki_Jah on January 13, 2007, 07:00:39 AM
one of the biggest things I have yet to understand is a tax on gifts or bonuses .... why would you get taxed on somthing givin to you ?
then if you inherit a lot of money it is taxed on top of what was already taxed out of it just because you were givin that? i dont get it. when I leave money to my kids I will give them specific instructions to never tell a soul about it nor to claim anything on taxes about it. and like I said before I dont even know how to start with my stocks and mutual funds im sure ill get screwed some way with them as well.
just wait till you get taxed on last years tax return...talk about a frikkin joke.
and you can control how much, if any, taxes are taken in case of inheritance...you just have to be smart about it. and have a lawyer set you up a trust. if you simply leave them an inheritance they'll get taxed at 50% or some rediculous amount. but there are legal ways to shield that money. better (cuz its legal) than your method of not reporting it.