After gaining experience wrenching and riding your Suz GS500 - what do you want as your next bike!?
I've been eyeing up some bobbed Yamaha XS 650s on ebay.
No question im leaving Carburetion!
I got my eyes on a newer Kawasaki ZX-6RR with undertail exhaust.
But I gotta get the gs payed for and get a car first :icon_confused:
- Being 6'4" with a 36" inseam and bad knees, when I go post-GS500 I am leaning toward a Suzuki DL-650 (Wee-Strom). Much bigger digs than what I have now. Great engine. Great price. The SUV of the Suzuki line.
- In number two position is the Yamaha FZ-6. I consider it the GS500's bigger brother -- similar ergonomics but larger engine. Unfortunately there is not much improvement on the legroom.
- Rounding out my top three choices (and if money was no object) is the Honda VFR-800. Almost bought a pre-owned 2004 last year but my finances were not up to the purchase price. Would love a RED one with saddle bags. Space-age instrument cluster and great sport-touring reputation.
In this day and age there are no bad bikes. Consider what you want to use a motorcycle for, how much you want to pay, save up and keep your eyes open for the right bike to come along.
sv650, seca II (fj600), v-strom 650, klr650, cb750, vx800, katana 600...
-ash
sv650 for sure.
DR-Z400SM
Oh wait...
SV650. Affordable, logical next step, and from what I can tell, plenty powerful and nimble too. Why not? :kiss3:
Just got another zrx1200, its my second. I love those things... Plenty fast, and you can add a lot of hp with some easy mods. Its kinda piggy in the corners.
I'm on the look out for a sv650 or maybe a 1000, but I've got sell something first. :)
P3
Triumph 675...i love that bike...its so narrow..i hate portly bikes, the sound is amazing, and the price is right... wheres my drooling emoticon?
Honda cb-350. Or else maybe Honda c70.
Quote from: ashman on March 03, 2007, 07:43:50 PM
sv650, seca II (fj600), v-strom 650, klr650, cb750, vx800, katana 600...
-ash
The SV 650 seems very popular. I came from the Kawa. Rider's Forum site and seems everyone there likes to upgrade from the Ninja 250 to the SV 650. I personally have the Katana 600 that I got a good deal on from Ebay. (2003 for $3000 1400miles)
bikes I have had or still have....
ysr50
rs50
ar80
xr80
xr100
rs125
rg-v250
tz250
rz-350
dr350
gs500
srx-6
tt600
f2
f3
srad600 awsome but a bit wide
sv650
87 gsxr750
zx-7
rf900
r-1
fj1100
fj1200
reality... good cheap reliable comfy and can hold it's own on the street and cheap, valve adj at 16-20k.....another F-3 for longer trips and riding the local twisties
and why not keep a GS as the all purpose rider. no real need to get a bigger bike...they just eat tires faster
FZR 600RD
then an SV1000/RC51 got to have v-twins now nothing else will due :flipoff:
Datona 675.
When I eventually have my mid-life crisis & get a literbike, it'll be a twin. Probably a Ducati.
Tracking the GS & never selling it though.
I dont think I could bring myself to sell ANY bike.
I myself am looking to get a '06 or '07 GSXR600 in about 2 years
f%$k yea man Honestly I want anything that can stunn easily
Quote from: robbie on March 04, 2007, 12:29:50 PM
f%$k yea man Honestly I want anything that can stunn easily
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I'm seriously considering a SV650 soon. I'd like a supersport but theres no way I'm good enough to use one right. I don't think I've learned all I can from my GS, but I don't feel particularly safe on the GS. Between the suspension, the bars, the brakes, and the tires I just don't trust my GS to stay upright in the twisties. This is partly my own fault, but to upgrade all of those parts would be pricey and wouldn't convince me that the bike would keep running fine. I want a new bike that I know the full history of, and I want to stick some better rubber on it and take it to a track to properly learn.
Alternatively I'd like to sneak an Aprilia RS50 into the US and play with that.
Quote from: anthonyd5189 on March 04, 2007, 12:26:51 PM
As much as i love the Daytona 675....you have a 70% chance of wrecking it...they are the highest crashed bike out there. So if you get one be safe.
I dont want to argue about the stupidity of that statement here:
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=33603.0
This:
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d58/RD350b/IMG_1517.jpg?t=1170121457)
re Triumph 675... what a beauty. Has to take the award for most elegant swingarm.
FacePants, is that an SV650 on steroids?
Quote from: RedShift on March 04, 2007, 03:40:22 PM
FacePants, is that an SV650 on steroids?
Yeah. Check it out:
http://forum.svrider.com/index.php?page=13 (http://forum.svrider.com/index.php?page=13)
Well i cant really say post GS because i don't own one hehe. Just my ZXR400.
But my next bike. Id love a BMW R1200 GS :icon_mrgreen:
I have the upmost respect for the bike and it will do anything i want, from touring to commuting and being practical.
I'm thinking a SV 650s or a bandit 650, or possibly but doubtfull the bigger brothers of those the SV1000s or the Bandit 1200. I agree about sport bikes there fun but daily use isn't that comfortable. But I won't make any decisions until after I sell the gs.
Either a Honda 919 (cb900f for those outside the US) or else a VFR800. I'd like either in matte black, but I'm not too picky. Leaning more towards the VFR lately.
Probably a GSX-R 600 to keep up with my husbands CBR 600 :laugh:
Kawi Z750S or a VFR800
i like the Kawasaki Ninja 650R or the ZZR600. both can be found second-hand for less than $5k.
i also like the SV650. i want something with at least a half fairing. i don't think i need anything more than a 650cc bike unless i get a cruiser more than 400 lbs.
put a second-hand Triumph Thruxton or Buell XB9R on the list too.
SV 650S is hot! It's fast quick out of turns looks great
i wana another twin cylinder bike. my current interests are the VTR1000 superhawk, GT650r, and maybe the DRZ400sm if i can find a good price
cbr954rr.....Oh wait already have it :thumb:
Speed triple ( white )
or
Yamaha FJR
Kinda leaning to the Triple :icon_mrgreen:
I already have my second bike: SV650S baby! He was an excellent next step. I don't have the time my commuter GS needed for wrenching to keep him babied along (or any real desire to wrench much :flipoff:), so I bought the SVS, and he's been a gem. He's a bit more powerful, but not so powerful that I've gotten into trouble. He's not quite as forgiving of n00b errors as the Baby G, but he's still plenty forgiving (much more than a supersport would be). Once I had him lowered, I even stopped (mostly) dropping him. :icon_lol: If it weren't for his square commuter tires, he'd probably flick a little easier in the twisties. :laugh:
My next next bike will likely be a Gixxer 600 or 750 (probably in another couple of years). The 750 is almost low enough for me to flat-foot it now... but those fairings still scare me too much with my propensity for....er...parkin' 'im horizontally (see my avatar, courtesy of the brilliant artist, aaronstj :kiss3:)... :icon_mrgreen:
Absolutely in love with the ergos of the CBR600RR. Made me forget I wanted a GSX-R 750.
Problem is, I'd like to start doing some touring in a year or so. And I only get one bike for track and touring.
Screw it, I'm getting a Hayabusa.
Quote from: jen_ on March 05, 2007, 02:48:36 PM
Absolutely in love with the ergos of the CBR600RR. Made me forget I wanted a GSX-R 750.
Problem is, I'd like to start doing some touring in a year or so. And I only get one bike for track and touring.
Screw it, I'm getting a Hayabusa.
VFR800
I've just hit 7,000 miles on my '05 this weekend, and I'm starting to give serious thought to "trading up" before I need tires and the 8,000 mile service. So...
The next bike will most likely be a V-Strom, because a seriously long trip around the US of A is on my list-o-things-to-do.
But having been around A LOT of motorcycles in the past 2 years, there are SO many bikes I would LIKE to have. I definitely lust for a V-Max!
And this part is just preaching to the choir: Choosing the GS as my first (and second) bike was a really smart move! Excellent all-around bike to learn on!
Quote from: Caffeine on March 05, 2007, 05:29:42 PM
And this part is just preaching to the choir: Choosing the GS as my first (and second) bike was a really smart move! Excellent all-around bike to learn on!
After my first 8000 motorbike miles, no complaints here either. The GS is a rockstar.
i like the VMax too in some strange sort of way. and the used prices make them VERY affordable.
after 24k on the gs and riding a vfr800 (very nice bike imo), 636 , 600rr, , cbr 600 f3, and a 1000rr
i have to say i am happy with what the gs brings to the table, plus it payed off.
but when it dies, i guess i will get a honda ST (i think its called)
(http://www.badazztoyz.com/products/streetbikes/phoenix125/phnx-black.jpg)
That plus my built up XS400 engine. Yoshimura cams, 1.75 valves, large port, .2mm headgasket, 11:1 pistons, forged rods and lots of fuel. I'll be looking at a 250lb bike with 54rwhp. After it's complete I'll sell that bike and buy another...probably to stab it with an SV650 engine.
The next new bike I buy will be a Hayabusa or a Harley Davidson 1200 Sportster. At that point it'll be between whether I need a sport tourer or a comfy no-maintance cruiser.
Ducati monster, probally a 900. the dual spark 1000 would be awesome but expensive. the Liquid cooled ones are faster but too expensive to maintain. Or a FZR1000 it's fast and fairly cheap.
I don't think I'd get anything more than the M600...light, comfy, nimble, quick, pretty. The bigger ones get too "busy" for me. Go bigger and I would settle for anything less than an R.
Vulcan 750 for me.
What I am thinking is about getting either a 750 or 1000................
Currently on my list
Z750
SV 650/1000
bandit1200
ZR7
if I have enough money I would like to get a monster MS4
I've seen ALOT of mentions of sv650 and vstrom. Both appeal to me, the sv being cheaper, but the vstrom much more comfortable (over 6ft here).
Were I to find a nice concours or vstrom I'd likely try it for a few thousand miiles.
Quote from: Caffeine on March 05, 2007, 05:29:42 PM
The next bike will most likely be a V-Strom, because a seriously long trip around the US of A is on my list-o-things-to-do.
:dunno_white: Might want a little more bike for that, A good goldwing would be the ticket for a long trip around the USA. Just saying from personal experience and long trips.
this looks like a brilliant touring bike for x-country/long trips. i like the design; far more interesting to look at than a Goldwing (bleh!).
(http://www.yamaha-motor.com/assets/content/images/600/06fjr1300ae_silver_4_4abced57.jpg)
How the hell did I forget the FJ ? WOW! I pulled next to a brand new 07 with bags and all one saturday morning. This bike is sexy.
Thanks for reminding me!
Quote from: baco99 on March 06, 2007, 10:44:18 AM
this looks like a brilliant touring bike for x-country/long trips. i like the design; far more interesting to look at than a Goldwing (bleh!).
(http://www.yamaha-motor.com/assets/content/images/600/06fjr1300ae_silver_4_4abced57.jpg)
My dad has the same bike a late 06 FJR1300. He replaced his BMW k1200 with it. Fantastic bike, it sounds gorgeous and is wikid fast. Im dieing for a go. Looks super comfy and tonnes of room for a pillion (only position ive ridden on it) Its kitted out with colour coded paniers and heated grips, electric screen and i think its a 52L givi top box (the large two helmet one) Great bike.
It's also hard to argue with 140hp and 100lbs/tq. Plus it's reletively light for a tourer...just over 500lbs.
If they weren't shaft driven I'd dig them.
not really thinking of another bike, i have an HD 883L too, plus all the other bikes we have. i guess i'd have to say an R6, always loved them just concerned if i could even touch the ground. i'm only 5'4", I don't have any problems riding my dads HD Road King either.
Hard question - I don't think I'd ever get rid my GS, but I would like to add to the stable.
If I had to choose:
KTM Duke - for getting my license taken away
Yamaha FZ-6 - For twisty strafing. I don't like the FZ-1...pretty ugly.
Triumph Sprint ST - For the cruise with my wife.
MV Agusta - To do my poser duties.
But if I were to get ONE bike tomorrow, it would be the FZ-6. Sexy lines, I-4 power, and no Suzuki rust! :laugh:
LOL. i also think the FZ6 looks better then the FZ1. something with the front 1/2 fairing fits the bike better.
Triumph Sprint ST is a nice piece of kit too. If I were to go Brit, tho, I'd have to go Thruxton.
This thread is providing some curious information.
- At least 25 recommendations are for a small displacement boost -- to 600/650. Prevailing mood seems to be that more than 650cc's is a waste.
- There's a definite affection for the SV650 and/or its V-twin engine. Counted 11 mentions for that rascal.
- Noticed four people that liked the V-Strom (650 or 1000). Counted three (myself included) that mentioned the attraction was due to being vertically gifted.
- The FZ6, VFR800, SV1000, GSX-R600, and of late the FJR1300 were mentioned by at least three people.
- There is a great diversity of two-wheelers -- over 35 different bikes are mentioned to date.
Cool.
I'm 35, started riding when I was 12,5hp minibikes... I've had/have many bikes, seems like most big bikes ie 1000cc, never get opened up very often by most riders. You'd either die or go to jail. I've got a zrx1200 that after 2nd gear and in traffic she never get opened up too much, on the hwy its ticket city. 600,650,750 is plenty bike for most riders. A cbr600 is more bike than most riders know what to do with.
Just my .02
size of the engine isn't a reflection of how much bike we can use. Often, it is a reflection of how much power we will use.
No, on the street my TL never gets opened up. However, it's nice to cruise around town in third and fourth gear without it bogging down.
Sure, a GSXR 600 is plenty enough cruising around town and commuting, but it gets irritating having to ride around town at 19,000rpm in second because third bogs.
Well... My next bike will be either a Busa or a CBR1000. The Honda CBR1000 is more comfortable to me, but the history/performance of the Busa ir really attractive. :icon_confused: At any rate its gonna be at least 1 year, maybe 2 before I can make it happen.
in my opinion, and from what i've read in reviews, you don't need bigger displacement if you have a good balance between weight, torque and gearing. a Duc Monster 620 can probably cruise just as admirable as its bigger siblings for everyday use.
Quote from: baco99 on March 06, 2007, 08:22:36 PM
in my opinion, and from what i've read in reviews, you don't need bigger displacement if you have a good balance between weight, torque and gearing. a Duc Monster 620 can probably cruise just as admirable as its bigger siblings for everyday use.
Do you believe everything the experts tell you, form an opinion of your own based on experience. The 600's are all really great bikes if you wanna ride around with the motor wound all day...I'd take any of em as a track whore, that's about it though. Why does everyone think Suzuki is so great go check out some other dealerships, want a twin try a Buell :thumb: Great ride for a next step up. Nimble, agile, yet stable and forgiving Yeah the FJR1300 is nice, but, it eats roadtecs almost as fast as my 954 eats pilot powers.
And an MV Augusta for posing?????? Christ no ride that bike.
Your never gonna get the tourque out of a 600 that I get. 68ft/lbs torque and 138hp at the rear wheel stock. Your gonna be doing good to get 38ft/lbs out of a 600 and it'll be higher in the rpm range, And until you buy a 2007 model your 600's dont weigh any less than my 954 does.
My intent is not to slam anyone, just to get people to think.
Quote from: makenzie71 on March 06, 2007, 06:31:59 PM
size of the engine isn't a reflection of how much bike we can use. Often, it is a reflection of how much power we will use.
Not to mention ergonomics...
Throw a leg over an R-6, and then get on an R-1.
Or the DL-650 V-Strom vs. the 1000...BIG differences.
It'd be nice if the FZ-1 looked half as good as the FZ-6, but Yamaha screwed the poodle on that one.
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i'm willing to form my own opinions, but being new to the sport and also bieng in the dead of winter, i trust what the experts write is more accurate than my own assessments.
i see your point on having the extra power, but at the same time, my second CAR was 130 HP at the crank and still made it to 110MPH on the highway (Ford Contour 4 cylinder). just from a numbers standpoint, i'm not sure anything more than 70-80 HP is really necessary on a vehicle weighing 1/8 as much...
Quote from: baco99 on March 07, 2007, 05:20:39 AM
just from a numbers standpoint, i'm not sure anything more than 70-80 HP is really necessary on a vehicle weighing 1/8 as much...
Never said it was necessary, but the way a big bike makes power compared to a small tightly wound engine is completely different. Don't want gobs of HP go with a Buell they make ton's of totrque and are a great riding platform without the huge high rpm HP numbers.
Anyone seen Wild Hogs? Did you think it was funny? Most reviews trashed it arent you glad you ignored the experts now?
I had a 12k budget when I bought the 954 could have bought anything I wanted basically.
my budget is more like $4k (if that!) and only once i sell both convertibles...
Quote from: baco99 on March 07, 2007, 09:08:01 AM
my budget is more like $4k (if that!) and only once i sell both convertibles...
Keep your eye's and ears open and don't be in a hurry to buy and you can come across some good deals. Locally a couple of guys have newer F4i's for sale in that range that would be a good deal. Another rider here has put his 2yr old Buell XB9SX lightning city sport up for sale. He's asking 6K which is a good deal knowing how the bike has been taken care of.
good to know!
OK, I'm thread resurrecting! LOL
These are what are tops on my list when I trade up the GS500e (Actually with most of these, it's kind of a tradover and a little up)
1) Monster 695 (or 620 if I get a good deal on a used one)
2) SV650 (Depends on the day what order these are in... LOL)
3) Honda 599
Outside shot: Buell XB12scg (Only if I find a killer deal used)
The GS500e is plenty of bike for what I do, so I'll never see myself really getting something with more than 80 or so HP at the MOST (Granted, the Buell is an exception, but low on HP for the size of the engine). I don't mind high revs on the highway, I want a light, short, very flicakable bike with decent power, that looks cool (AND is NAKED!). I have no need of riding at 100 MPH all day on the highway, I'm typically at 75 MPH when cruising. I would keep the GS (and very well may) but at some point I'll just want something newer is all.
:cookoo: :cookoo: You're saying that the 73hp the 695 monster puts out is just a little up?? :cookoo: :cookoo: As long as that's just a little up why not go all out for the S4RS It's just a 130 hp engine in a 390lb bike!!!!
I don't know exacts on the other bikes on your list but I've heard that all of them produce significantly more power than the GS ( I just know the monster specs because that is seriously the sexiest bike ever!!, I'd kill for an S4RS, just too damn expensive and too much of a pain in the ass to maintain :cry:)
But good job reviving the post!!! :thumb: :thumb:
Just made the switch from my GS500 to a Yamaha FZ6. I love that the riding position feels very similar, so its comfortable for long rides. Obviously its got a good deal more power and I am not going to miss the carburators. The GS sure was a good little bike though, and very easy to work on. Aside from a bit of trouble with the carbs clogging after non-use (my fault), I had zero problems with the thing. Good times.
what about a Honda 919???
Quote from: spcterry on April 02, 2007, 09:07:09 AM
:cookoo: :cookoo: You're saying that the 73hp the 695 monster puts out is just a little up?? :cookoo: :cookoo: As long as that's just a little up why not go all out for the S4RS It's just a 130 hp engine in a 390lb bike!!!!
I don't know exacts on the other bikes on your list but I've heard that all of them produce significantly more power than the GS ( I just know the monster specs because that is seriously the sexiest bike ever!!, I'd kill for an S4RS, just too damn expensive and too much of a pain in the ass to maintain :cry:)
But good job reviving the post!!! :thumb: :thumb:
From what I understand 73 HP is debatable for the stock setup 695 (and Ducati's measurement is at the crank for recent measurements instead of the rear wheel) it actually only has a couple of horsies more than the 620(actually a tuned 620 beat the 695 in the 1/4 mile in a recent article I read). It's geared REALLY tall with a 15t front sprocket and 42 rear sprocket (as opposed to 15t and 48t for the 620), plus it meets new Euro emmissions... so they feel pretty similar or so I'm told right out of the crate. I test drove a 695 at the local dealer(and fell in LOVE) and though it was up in power on my GS, it was not at all that big of a jump. You can get a new ECU and different pipes as a kit, as well as open the airbox for some bigger numbers but still only gain another 8 HP or so. Most people I'm told change the front sprocket to a 14t (cheaper than changing the rear) to make it friendlier on takeoff and give it more zing around town.
I haven't really seen anything about 695 performance but I've seen a lot about the old 620. I've seen those things just rocket! How does the monster ride in comparison to the GS??? I really want one, and if the reenlistment money is right I'm getting one. Been considering an 800 i.e. , seems there are a lot of performance mods out there for that engine. I saw one on EBay a while ago for 6k that was completely retuned with termi exhaust and a dyno certificate reading 112hp. :icon_razz: :icon_razz:
Quote from: spcterry on April 02, 2007, 09:29:54 AM
I haven't really seen anything about 695 performance but I've seen a lot about the old 620. I've seen those things just rocket! How does the monster ride in comparison to the GS??? I really want one, and if the reenlistment money is right I'm getting one. Been considering an 800 i.e. , seems there are a lot of performance mods out there for that engine. I saw one on EBay a while ago for 6k that was completely retuned with termi exhaust and a dyno certificate reading 112hp. :icon_razz: :icon_razz:
I really, REALLY dug the 695, was hard to tell from a short ride, but I was grinning from ear to ear. Clutch pull was CAKE, though the grab zone was a lot different... More aggressive riding position... It felt pretty powerful (as much power as I'd ever need) though not nearly unmanageable, sturdier suspension than my GS (but mines 9 yrs old), and as willing to flick nicely the little bit I could, though the turning radius for slow stuff was not as good (at least initially based on the turning radius with the bars). I was able to feather the clutch and rear brake and lean a bit to get it better at lot speed, but it was different to say the least, especially with that tall gearing. I have heard nothing but great things about the monsters 800 and up, the 695 is considered their entry level bike now so you don't get the Single sided swingarm, or adjustable suspension. All in all I loved the 695, it sounded incredible and looks amazing, plus it actually fit my short inseam a lot better than I thought it would.
Personally, I don't feel the need for anything other than the GS500 that I have.... Maybe add a hack to stable, and/or a dual-sport. I imagine that I will run my GS until it dies. :thumb:
i just love the way they sound
I start drooling when I see/ hear a monster even the 620 and 695 have a deep roar that you can distiguish from across a crowded parking lot. :thumb: :thumb:
The 800 had like 85 hp stock, which is more than enough for me :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: And they are pretty available as people move to an S4R or S4RS....
i liken the sound to the distant, better-dressed, better-looking, banging-a-better-girlfriend sibling to a Harley V-twin...
LOL!!! great description!!!! It does have a lot of that deep roar that a V-twin has.... It's just a whole hell of a lot sexier!!!! And Lighter, Sleeker, and depending on the model even cheaper than a HD!!! Come to think of it i don't think I have or will ever see an ugly chick on the back of a Ducati and trust me there are plenty of em on the back of HD's. :icon_confused:
sv 650 or sv 1000
Quote from: spcterry on April 02, 2007, 12:40:10 PM
LOL!!! great description!!!! It does have a lot of that deep roar that a V-twin has.... It's just a whole hell of a lot sexier!!!! And Lighter, Sleeker, and depending on the model even cheaper than a HD!!! Come to think of it i don't think I have or will ever see an ugly chick on the back of a Ducati and trust me there are plenty of em on the back of HD's. :icon_confused:
lol.
Yea Ducati's are pretty lean athletic and classy, like my women :o
The perfect description for both women and bikes. Hopefully your women don't cost as much as the bike :laugh: :laugh: But generally they are both pretty expensive to maintain!!! That's why i look for the ones with loaded parents who can spoil themselves :thumb: :thumb:
Quote from: thirdman on April 02, 2007, 10:12:14 AM
Personally, I don't feel the need for anything other than the GS500 that I have.... Maybe add a hack to stable, and/or a dual-sport. I imagine that I will run my GS until it dies. :thumb:
Yup, just came back fom a ride... I do really have fun on this GS. If I can afford to keep it when I get another bike, I most surely will. Only reason I'm considering an already is because I want something newer, and I'm a naked man. I'm trying to get my wife into riding, so I'm hoping she'll want it as well.
>> Only reason I'm considering an already is because I want something newer, and I'm a naked man.
we are all naked men, johnny, that is something that you learn as you get older.
KAWASAKI ZRX-1200
Yeah baby!
Just sold my GS and got a new Shadow VLX and I love it. :thumb:
2006 Gixxer 1000 in the garage.
Quote from: rraiderr on April 03, 2007, 10:08:15 PM
2006 Gixxer 1000 in the garage.
From the GS500?
That's a pretty big jump. Don't die.
Quote from: AlphaFire X5 on April 03, 2007, 10:20:39 PM
Quote from: rraiderr on April 03, 2007, 10:08:15 PM
2006 Gixxer 1000 in the garage.
From the GS500?
That's a pretty big jump. Don't die.
Yes that would be certain death.
No the GS500 is my track day bike. I have been riding and racing for 20+ years.
Quote from: rraiderr on April 03, 2007, 11:27:39 PM
Yes that would be certain death.
No the GS500 is my track day bike. I have been riding and racing for 20+ years.
Word. I only ask because I have seen it done before. Just one of those things I simply shake my head at normally.
Quote from: nightrider on April 03, 2007, 04:58:10 PM
>> Only reason I'm considering an already is because I want something newer, and I'm a naked man.
we are all naked men, johnny, that is something that you learn as you get older.
Haha, true enough. I won't upgrade before the season's over anyway. I just figured next year the bike will be 10 years old, and I may want to commute on something a wee bit newer! I wish I owned this bike when it was right out of the showroom, it's in good shape now, but man would I have loved to have broken it in.
Quote from: rraiderr on April 03, 2007, 11:27:39 PM
Quote from: AlphaFire X5 on April 03, 2007, 10:20:39 PM
Quote from: rraiderr on April 03, 2007, 10:08:15 PM
2006 Gixxer 1000 in the garage.
From the GS500?
That's a pretty big jump. Don't die.
Yes that would be certain death.
No the GS500 is my track day bike. I have been riding and racing for 20+ years.
Don't die? Nice message, Alpha. ASSumptions aren't always correct, obviously.
Quote from: pandy on April 04, 2007, 08:31:17 AM
Don't die? Nice message, Alpha. ASSumptions aren't always correct, obviously.
40HP to 180HP. That is more than four times the power difference. I think my warning was pretty fair, especially considering the context of the thread. The whole point of this thread was to see what sort of bikes people were going to after their GS500s. Therefore, logically, I could deduce that if someone said "2006 GSX-R1000" that, in the context of the thread, that was the bike they moved to after their GS500.
It's pretty simple, really.
The assumption that the Gixxer was a next bike sounds as though it was correct. The ASSumption that he'd die was not. Yup, very simple. :icon_rolleyes:
Quote from: pandy on April 04, 2007, 08:44:21 AM
The assumption that the Gixxer was a next bike sounds as though it was correct. The ASSumption that he'd die was not. Yup, very simple. :icon_rolleyes:
How is jumping from 40HP to 180HP any different than hopping on an R6 as your first bike? The power increase is about the same (more, actually).
From 0HP bike to 120HP bike = 120HP net difference.
From 40HP bike to 180HP bike = 140HP net difference.
Though, to be fair, I think the '06 1000 puts down about 160HP at the wheel, so the net difference would be about the same. This is, of course, assuming you find a 120RWHP R6. This also does not take into account the torque difference.
i think the point being made is you don't go from an Kia Rio with 100 HP at the wheels (on a good day), to a Dodge Viper R/T with 500+ HP on a bad day and drive it the same way. you need to be careful or find your ass around a phone pole.
I think that would be a very good day for a RIO :laugh:
While my bike was getting a service it took a walk up the road to have a squiz at all the dealers & while looking at the new zx6 k7 thay said go for a ride mate, i said my backs not the best & other sports bikes i've been on just makes it play up, but i'll give it sit, & it felt good in the seat. So i took it for a ride :o 1/2 hour later back at the dealers he said how was it, :thumb: bloody good bike & i can stand up straight i was not stiff in my back at all.
After 2 years, and 14k on my GS500, I brought it to the track. There were four of us - all track virgins. It was a blast, and I got hooked. The second time to the track, I was scraping my pegs. I had already done fork and shock mods so I though about getting rearsets. While looking around, I found an SV650S done up in a way I liked (case guards, emulators, Ohlins, Woodcraft) for $3k. I bought it and didn't look back for a year and 13k miles. I kept the GS thinking I would commute on it, but going back to its suspension, engine and brakes wasn't fun. It wasn't until I had a great track day on the SV with new tires that I thought I should try to save the tires for the track and just use the GS. It took some readjusting but I'm back on Gus for my commutes. Did a group ride in the hills last weekend and pushing Gus took another set of adjustment. After two hours, I began to remember how to ride the GS in the hills and that too became fun.
I've added a dirtbike and a BSA project to my stable. I plan to cross the country next year so I'm looking at the new generation of FZ1. Depending on where you're coming from, it's either a standard, tourer, sport tourer or even a sportbike. Whatever you call it, it fits the bill. I'll prolly have to sell Gus. We're going on four years together and he's been a tank, but I don't want him to sit idle for another year while I romance the FZ1. Besides, the days are getting longer and there are lots of people that need a Gus. Riding around on him recently has reminded me of how great a first bike, actually, just bike, the GS500 is. If things were just a little different for me, I could be plenty happy cruising around on him.
Quote from: neonyello on April 04, 2007, 09:43:49 PM
I plan to cross the country next year so I'm looking at the new generation of FZ1.
Get the first gen if you plan on doing that. Larger tank, more comfortable seat, higher bars, and more wind protection. Carbs should not be an issue.
Welll after 1.5 years of owning the GS500 we are now done with it.
My wife has now graduated to a brand new F4i a very excellent next step for a newbie in the sportbike world. It's typical honda fit and finish smooth operation and of course the prettier blue color all added up to her getting the new bike as her birthday present. I was very impressed with it's forgiving nature and comfortable seating in comparison to the beast, our bikes are named beauty and the beast btw. Have fun and keep em wheels down :thumb:
(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n261/bettingpython/IMAGE_081.jpg)
Quote from: rraiderr on April 03, 2007, 10:08:15 PM
2006 Gixxer 1000 in the garage.
Haha good for you
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=26907.0
Here is mine -After 11 months and 12500 miles
Best decision I ever made, right after the GS500- very easy transition but I was very careful
(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i176/nutella_photo/IMG_1576.jpg)
Looks like a freaking Transformer. Bikes like that look hella unwieldy to me ... course im sure its comfy and all and easy to ride. Nice. :thumb:
My next bike?
Well, for one I want to keep my GS... But, I'd like to add to my collection. :icon_mrgreen: I REALLY want this '04 Marauder 1600 (http://www.rentonmotorcycles.com/new_vehicle_detail.asp?sid=6592959E-02X4K9K2007J4I17I19JPMQ2397R0&veh=8858&pov=364490)... That friggen thing is soooo comfortable... It would smoke the GS up any straight line hill... Especially high elevation. :laugh:
I'd get the sissy seat-back for the wife... Bags... Oh yeah, I'm getting old. :laugh:
Quote from: RVertigo on April 09, 2007, 02:20:26 PMOh yeah, I'm getting old. :laugh:
+1 but I love my new VLX :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Small update: After a month & 800 miles on the VFR800 VTEC I picked up new, I rode the GS last night. Now maybe the humidity and leaving it parked for a while didn't do it favors (clutch cable in particular feels like it needs lube), the GS just feels weird now. Carries it's weight lower, not a lot of power unless reved a lot more, bike feels really small. Then again I'm 6'5 so the GS never felt real big but it seems to have shrunk.
I'm officially a Honda fanboy, by the way, after the VFR.
At times on an open straight the GS really lags. Gears seem to be good for only about 30 feet of acceleration each. Then I think about mods, but I'm too lazy and cheap.
Then at other times it hauls ass. Its weird, I thought I'd get tired of it but Im at 9000 mi and the GS is still coo'.
Quote from: pres589 on April 10, 2007, 12:40:35 PM
... I'm officially a Honda fanboy, by the way, after the VFR.
I can understand how things like this happen. My motto:
"If you can't ride the one you love, love the one you ride." :thumb:
Quote from: RedShift on April 10, 2007, 03:40:00 PM
I can understand how things like this happen. My motto:
"If you can't ride the one you love, love the one you ride." :thumb:
Sounds like it could be applicable in marriage too...
Err.....