Ok - so the SVRider board pales in comparison to this one. And I cannot seem to find the answer anywhere else so I thought I'd ask here. Current model year (or 05/06), what's the difference between an SV650 and an SV650s? From what I can tell, it's only the fairing, headlight setup, and clipons on the SVS. Am I missing anything? And would you get an SVS or an SV and try to find clipons?
I also think that the SVS has a little lower gearing and I know the gas tank shape is different
If I were buying an sv, which I hope to one day, I would get the svs. I like the look of it more than the sv.
Actually, I think that the only difference is the fairing and the handlebars. The SVS is obviously a tad bit heavier. They are the same, othewise.
I had and SVS. Good bike but the forks are crappy. It is cramped for my frame, too. So if you're tall. . . look elsewhere.
Quote from: Jake D on May 17, 2007, 12:17:29 PM
Actually, I think that the only difference is the fairing and the handlebars. The SVS is obviously a tad bit heavier. They are the same, othewise.
I had and SVS. Good bike but the forks are crappy. It is cramped for my frame, too. So if you're tall. . . look elsewhere.
6 ft on the nose. Think it's tighter than the GS?
I'm 6'2", and I find the SV very roomy. :dunno_white:
I just finished a 900 mile round-trip with a 2 day break in between and not so much as a sore back or wrist after either leg of the journey.
Yes, the forks are crappy. They are the old damper-rod style forks just like the GS. Many upgrade the springs and oil. Others swap in a GSXR front end. I'm not sure how that affects the ergos, though.
Oh yes, and one more difference. I believe that the SV pegs are actually placed slightly forward of the SVS pegs. I'm not absolutely sure about this though.
I seem to recall one or two people on the SV board discussing the option of buying the SVS and removing the top fairing to trade/sell for a bucket-light to get the street-fighter look. I'm not sure how easy that headlight swap would be.
I think the best way to get that fighter look is to get the SV naked and purchase a bar from Suburban Machinery.
Personally, I like the SVS. I particularly love the look of it with the factory lower fairing. The bike gets a lot of compliments and turns a ot of heads since I put one on.
Show-off picture below...
(http://www.personal.psu.edu/rbd123/bike/SVsized.jpg)
Quote from: vtlion on May 17, 2007, 12:50:30 PM
I'm 6'2", and I find the SV very roomy. :dunno_white:
I just finished a 900 mile round-trip with a 2 day break in between and not so much as a sore back or wrist after either leg of the journey.
Yes, the forks are crappy. They are the old damper-rod style forks just like the GS. Many upgrade the springs and oil. Others swap in a GSXR front end. I'm not sure how that affects the ergos, though.
I was just about to ask if you had an S before the pix :) I think I'm leaning towards the S myself. The bars seem to feel more like the GS and the ergs feel a little better. Plus, the key isn't buried beneath the bar like on the SV.
Edit: for the record ... only reason I'm looking at the SV is because the Monster is near impossible to find and a new one is just stupid $$.
My legs were cramped as hell on the SV. And my hands went numb all the time. But it is a good bike. Just not right for me.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/jaked1166/SV2.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/jaked1166/SV.jpg)
Here is what that bike did to me:
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/jaked1166/eblow1.jpg)
This is a random photo I took:
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/jaked1166/sanfran.jpg)
Quote from: vtlion on May 17, 2007, 01:02:22 PM
Oh yes, and one more difference. I believe that the SV pegs are actually placed slightly forward of the SVS pegs. I'm not absolutely sure about this though.
I seem to recall one or two people on the SV board discussing the option of buying the SVS and removing the top fairing to trade/sell for a bucket-light to get the street-fighter look. I'm not sure how easy that headlight swap would be.
I think the best way to get that fighter look is to get the SV naked and purchase a bar from Suburban Machinery.
Personally, I like the SVS. I particularly love the look of it with the factory lower fairing. The bike gets a lot of compliments and turns a ot of heads since I put one on.
Show-off picture below...
(http://www.personal.psu.edu/rbd123/bike/SVsized.jpg)
Awesome bike. :thumb: Definitely what I want to get next, svs, either 650 or 1000 not sure which. I'd be happy with either.
<cough> . . .1000!. . . <cough>
Quote from: Jake D on May 17, 2007, 01:46:44 PM
<cough> . . .1000!. . . <cough>
:laugh: I think I'm leaning towards the 1000, not sure why.
Quote from: Jake D on May 17, 2007, 01:46:44 PM
<cough> . . .1000!. . . <cough>
That one's on my shortlist for next year sometime, alongside the Triumph675, GSXR750 and a few others (including the Kawisazi Z750 if they ever wise up and remove that butt-ugly 1/4 fairing).
Quote from: vtlion on May 17, 2007, 06:25:40 PM
Quote from: Jake D on May 17, 2007, 01:46:44 PM
<cough> . . .1000!. . . <cough>
That one's on my shortlist for next year sometime, alongside the Triumph675, GSXR750 and a few others (including the Kawisazi Z750 if they ever wise up and remove that butt-ugly 1/4 fairing).
that sounds like the same list of bikes I was considering before I got the 1000. I fell in love with the daytona, but Im a poor college student, and I couldn't pass up on the deal I got on the 1000. I love my SV.
My buddy with the SV650S is 6'3" and he loves it... I can't look at it without my back hurting...
But, what do I know... I'm buying a Mean Streak and wondering if I should get forward controls... :laugh:
Instead of putting forward controls on a mean streak, you should just get a gynocological exam chair and put the motor out of a Civic in it. Maybe save a couple bucks.
I :kiss3: my SVS. The position is sportier on the SVS than the SV, and that's exactly what I was looking for. I didn't want to be sitting straight up anymore, but I wasn't ready for a supersport...the SVS was an excellent compromise (and he takes drops almost as well as the Baby G :icon_mrgreen:)
Gratuitous bike pr0n:
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a146/pandyz/BigRed110505.jpg)
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a146/pandyz/Sliders.jpg)
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a146/pandyz/BigRed3a.jpg)
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a146/pandyz/17Milesa.jpg)
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a146/pandyz/BigRed1a.jpg)
All pics by Ceek (and taken before he'd ever been on his side :laugh:)
:laugh: when wuz i on my side? :icon_mrgreen:
Wow thats a rare pic of your bike Pandy. :o :o
That looks nice :thumb: :thumb:
I'm REALLY impressed Pandy... You made it 17 miles without dropping it? :thumb:
I see you opted for the the side mounted kick stands! :icon_twisted:
That pic reminded me that the SVS had the best gauge cluster ever! That speedo rocks.
And I went on a group ride this weekend. Some kid on a SV650S rode two up with this girlfriend and probably averaged like 90 mph for 4 hours. He was near the front of the group with the guys in full leathers. Mad props.
Quote from: bubba zanetti on May 20, 2007, 11:31:21 PM
Wow thats a rare pic of your bike Pandy. :o :o
You mean because it's upright? :laugh: :laugh:
Quote from: sanjay on May 21, 2007, 10:57:31 AM
Quote from: bubba zanetti on May 20, 2007, 11:31:21 PM
Wow thats a rare pic of your bike Pandy. :o :o
You mean because it's upright? :laugh: :laugh:
Yep :thumb:
Quote from: Ceek on May 20, 2007, 08:32:34 PM
:laugh: when wuz i on my side? :icon_mrgreen:
Well..if YOU don't 'member..... :icon_lol: :kiss3:
Quote from: RVertigo on May 21, 2007, 02:07:12 AM
I'm REALLY impressed Pandy... You made it 17 miles without dropping it? :thumb:
:flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff: :laugh:
Quote from: Kasumi on May 21, 2007, 06:34:22 AM
I see you opted for the the side mounted kick stands! :icon_twisted:
He wouldn't still be alive w/o 'em! :P :laugh:
Quote from: bubba zanetti on May 21, 2007, 01:49:36 PM
Quote from: sanjay on May 21, 2007, 10:57:31 AM
Quote from: bubba zanetti on May 20, 2007, 11:31:21 PM
Wow thats a rare pic of your bike Pandy. :o :o
You mean because it's upright? :laugh: :laugh:
Yep :thumb:
:flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff: You all SUCK! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Quote from: pandy on May 18, 2007, 01:51:15 PM
I :kiss3: my SVS. The position is sportier on the SVS than the SV, and that's exactly what I was looking for. I didn't want to be sitting straight up anymore, but I wasn't ready for a supersport...the SVS was an excellent compromise (and he takes drops almost as well as the Baby G :icon_mrgreen:)
Gratuitous bike pr0n:
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a146/pandyz/BigRed110505.jpg)
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a146/pandyz/Sliders.jpg)
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a146/pandyz/BigRed3a.jpg)
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a146/pandyz/17Milesa.jpg)
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a146/pandyz/BigRed1a.jpg)
All pics by Ceek (and taken before he'd ever been on his side :laugh:)
Alright Pandy - you've convinced me. if only they had silver and/or black this year. Hope to have some ne blue pix up in the next few weeks.
I like the SVS, i would opt to get the full fairing though. They are good bikes, man I don't know what i am going to do when i get to get another bike.......
The '07 darker red looks pretty good in person. :icon_mrgreen:
Quote from: MrDan on May 22, 2007, 12:24:56 PM
Alright Pandy - you've convinced me. if only they had silver and/or black this year. Hope to have some ne blue pix up in the next few weeks.
Oh great...now you're going to blame ME when you hate your new bike.... :flipoff: :icon_mrgreen:
RVertigo: Come to think of it, those first miles were put on by Ceek's son (he rode my new baby home for me...I decided I was too night-blind and too darned scared to ride him for the first time at night :laugh:)...otherwise, like with my Baby G, I'd likely have fallen over the first ride. :P
Actually - I think I need to attempt to arrange a test ride ... not like the Dealer will let me, seems like only the cool Ducati and BMW dealers do that haha. Worried that the seat seems rather hard.
The seat is not bad at all. You will get much worse on the supersports
gel seats are also available, i think. I've never even considered one, and I have done some iron-butt sessions of almost 1000 miles on it.
Yeah, the seat is hard, but I think most of 'em are? :dunno_white: Bike shorts...gel seat....custom-to-your-butt fitted seat? This is a small problem! :icon_mrgreen:
Quote from: vtlion on May 23, 2007, 09:56:58 AM
gel seats are also available, i think. I've never even considered one, and I have done some iron-butt sessions of almost 1000 miles on it.
I'm still trying to make it through what all the clothing stuff is. I haven't even gotten to accessories...I have sooo much to learn. :)
Lisa
Quote from: MrDan on May 17, 2007, 10:19:27 AM
Ok - so the SVRider board pales in comparison to this one. And I cannot seem to find the answer anywhere else so I thought I'd ask here. Current model year (or 05/06), what's the difference between an SV650 and an SV650s? From what I can tell, it's only the fairing, headlight setup, and clipons on the SVS. Am I missing anything? And would you get an SVS or an SV and try to find clipons?
The S models are fuel injected.
All SV's were fuel injected after 2003.
So I bought an 07 Blue SVS yesterday afternoon. I was officially bikeless for 75 minutes. Just turned 150 miles. So I have a few follow up questions :)
1. Does everyone here who have an SV have to deal with the right hand falling asleep or is it just me?
2. When pushing out of a space or stopping ... she sounds like an RC car ... also just me?
3. Anyone know if one of Srinath's flanges will work so I can put a CF pipe on for less than $500? My wife burned her foot on the exhast yesterday.
So yeah - loving the bike (other than the hand thing). Still miss the GS though.
I got used to the vibration. Now the only time the vibration bothers my hands is if I'm riding all day. I also am reminding myself constantly to keep my arms and wrists loose, because I tend toward the death grip. :icon_mrgreen:
Doubt the srinath flange will work, I'm 99.99999999% sure that the exhaust diameters are different on the GS vs. the SV
Just buy a slipon made for the SV.. it's not like the GS, there's a real aftermarket for it.
Most SV riders go with the Yoshi RS3 or the M4. They both sound great. I have also seen (but never heard) one with a Micron pipe.
Yeah, I like the looks of the Yoshi and M4 but to get a decent CF one means spending $$$$$$$$. I was looking for a cheaper way to do it. Maybe I can find a used one somewhere.
Pandy - I've been pretty conscious of the death grip. I was finding on the highway, with my hand resting on the throttle, fingers over the brake, that it was still happening. Leaning on my left arm on the tank or tucking both seem to help though. I think I just need to get used to it.
Oh - and it really sucks trying to outrun a thunderstorm when you can't go over 6k rpm haha
Quote from: MrDan on May 29, 2007, 08:06:03 AM
Oh - and it really sucks trying to outrun a thunderstorm when you can't go over 6k rpm haha
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Actually, now that you mention it, I am a tank leaner. It's just so darned comfy to lay on the tank and cruise. Perhaps that's why my wrists only bother me when I'm on loooong hauls! :icon_mrgreen:
If you take the bar ends off and shove in bits of glue sticks for a hot glue gun untill the clipon bar is full that will help a little. That is if it came with bar ends.
Quote from: natedawg120 on May 29, 2007, 12:00:25 PM
If you take the bar ends off and shove in bits of glue sticks for a hot glue gun untill the clipon bar is full that will help a little. That is if it came with bar ends.
See - leave it to the GS crew to come up with something that off the wall. I've promised myself no mods whatsoever for 600 miles, but I'll see it this would work :thumb:
It did wonders in my handlebars before I installed clipons. Now I need to get new bar ends and I will probably do the same thing again. Let me know if you do it and it helps even a ilttle in clipons.:thumb: