hey i was just curios, how do jeans hold up in a accident (maily skiding accros the floor)? well they burn ino your skin? i was just curios cause yesturday i slid maibe 6 feet coming off the highway and have some nice burns.
It sound like you already know the answer to your question.
They don't. They rip shread and tear, jeans don't melt thay are mad of denim. Synthetic fibers melt.
Jeans will hold up well enough for up to ~50mph depending on how you land, roll, etc. Highway speeds shred jeans in like, 3 seconds. Normal commuting speeds and they will save you quite a bit of pain.
alpinestars makes a pair of pants called "street cargo pants" that have knee protectors in them and are a pretty relaxed fit, but have good bits in the waist for a secure fit. They retail $120 a pair, rule of thumb with alpinestars stuff seems to be to order one size above what you normally wear. I like them, easy to get on and off and offer quite good protection. :cheers:
I went down in jeans and a jean jacket, last year. I rolled as I was sliding so that no one spot was on the grond for to long. My knee went through, becuase I tried to ride it out but I was to low on bad tires.
Lesson learned, now I ride with a leather jacket and at least jeans every time. I'm looking for knee pucks now.
dude i hear ya, from know own im always wearing full gear. i got lucky the only parts of me that got heart is my knee and my arms. Are those icon jeans with portection any good by any chance?
http://www.chaparral-racing.com/Chaparral/product_family.asp?family%5Fid=8487&gift=False&0=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D2011%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tree%3D%2CIcon&1=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D2013%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tree%3D0%2CIcon%20Pants&mscssid=000FDA45B2C39254B0CAD369AFBE7A8F
those seem like good jeans, ill probably end up ordering a pair
http://www.chaparral-racing.com/Chaparral/product_family.asp?family%5Fid=6137&gift=False&0=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D402%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tree%3D%2CStreet%20Pants&1=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D96%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tree%3D0%2CJoe%20Rocket%20Pants&mscssid=87F4B45A47BB46C8BFD2CB98547A1FD3
Jeans. Hmm, those things made of cotton, and not even this thick: ||
I've done some non-scientific testing with jeans, parachute pants, leather from a catchers mit, and an OLD pair of boots.
The items were subjected to 25 or so pounds of preasure (guestimate) against a grinding wheel (8") at around 3,000 rpm.
Here's what I found:
Jeans are gone less than a 1/2 a second after contact.
Parachute pants melt and adhere to whatever applies preasure.
Leather may 'hop' or grind slowly, but 1/8" of it is gone in 5-6 seconds.
There are better studies online, but I wanted to see AND SMELL the results without actually crashing.
I'll be buying a leather jacket after this. My tourmaster is comfy and all, but I don't think it has the very best protection.
You're fooling yourself if you think jeans (reinforced, whatever) will save your hide.
:thumb:
3000RPM on a 8" (diameter, I assume) wheel translates to 71.4mph. As noted, jeans don't hold up well in high speed crashes. However, you also must consider that you aren't necessarily sliding all the time, and are tumbling at one point or another. However, in normal commuting speeds will hold up surprisingly well, especially if you buy quality denim.
I've ripped through jeans falling on a concrete basketball court. They were even good jeans (Levi, back when they were made in the US). Anybody who trusts them to protect their skin in a crash is an idiot. That includes you, Brian. :flipoff: :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen:
In the spirit of mythbusting a claim that a local rider could drag knee on the street in jeans the duarability of 3 pairs of denim jeans were put to the test. A 90 degree right hand turn was made by a rider at 35mph wearing jeans over his leathers with no hard pucks under the jeans. He touched knee for less than 1 second each time. The least amount od damage was a quarter sized hole in the knee to a hole almost 1.5" in diameter.
If you don't believe it try it yourself with some friends.
I have a pair of biking jeans, reinforced in the knees and arse, pretty damn thick everywhere else.
If you can get into them (I found them stupidly tight) Draggin jeans are awesome, kevlar reinforced jobs- www.dragginjeans.com - watch the videos on there where they test them out by sliding on them while being towed.
In my crash I slid the whole time. I didn't roll one little bit. Jeans didn't really do anything to protect me. I can tell they didn't because there wasn't any areas on the jeans that had been in contact with the road that didn't disappear totally. So if it got down on the ground, it was ground into my skin. Literally.
In addition to full armoured kit I have a pair of these in black, they are a quality piece of kit.
http://www.hoodjeans.co.uk/html/k7jean.html
Also I will confess to riding in "ordinary" denims from time to time.
I will admit to riding to work on Jeans day and knocking around town in jeans, I draw the line at slacks. I fully undersatand the possibility that I may go on a scar tissue weight loss program. Anything over a going to have coney's and get an ice cream cone ride see's me running home to change pants. This tends to keep me out of lots of spur of the moment hooliganism.
I'm with BP :o :o I'll run to the store real quick in jeans, or sometimes to work. But anything past that I gotta have armor :thumb: :thumb:
You're telling me :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Hey basic common sense when it comes to ensuring your own personal safety knows no political party :thumb:
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I will admit to riding to work on Jeans day and knocking around town in jeans, I draw the line at slacks.
I will wear slacks to work with a pair of Carbolex overpants. Better than nothing, but I don't think they protect as well as purpose-built riding pants. I have considered keeping slacks at the office and changing there, but I don't usually allow that much time. My commute is only about seven minutes, and mostly rural.
Quote from: spcterry on July 06, 2007, 09:52:30 AM
It sound like you already know the answer to your question.
:laugh:
I believe this Calls for a No shaZam! Sherlock.
I also ride differently if I know I'm underprotected. I won't corner anywhere near my limit in jeans or slacks.
Still, it's the accidents we DON'T see coming that get us...
Quote from: nick_villan on July 06, 2007, 09:49:59 AM
hey i was just curios, how do jeans hold up in a accident (maily skiding accros the floor)? well they burn ino your skin? i was just curios cause yesturday i slid maibe 6 feet coming off the highway and have some nice burns.
WTF are you doing sliding across highway & I thought yo only rode in shorts & sneakers
Yeah, if you're only out riding for fun, or sport riding in general, get some real pants. Around town stuff is jean friendly, but not fun twisty riding.
Kneedragging+jeans= OUCH!!!!!!!
Quote from: spcterry on July 06, 2007, 05:47:22 PM
Kneedragging+jeans= OUCH!!!!!!!
rangerbrown can attest to that one.
I did once accidentally when I took the 'fun' way to work :oops: :oops:
how do they hold up? not well suually. unless theyre designed specifically for riding. something like draggin jeans. :thumb:
QuoteHey basic common sense when it comes to ensuring your own personal safety knows no political party
Groan really did you have to say it :dunno_white:
I have a couple of really sweet off ramps between the local friday night hang out and home. In a moment of stupidy not paying attention to the fact that I was riding in jeans I decided to run one at a "brisk pace" beautiful 25mph banked ramp that is always clean as a whistle. I was less than the blink of an eye away from touching down with my right knee when I had the presence of mind to tuck it in.
QuoteKneedragging+jeans= OUCH!!!!!!!
rangerbrown can attest to that one.
Glad I haven't had the pleasure.
I got tired of Spliting out my Jeans at Work.Due to Having to Maintain a Pool with a Salt System my Clothes don't take Long to Wear out.The Pool usually runs 5-10 PPM Chlorine which is way too high.The first thing to Go on my Jeans is the Knees and usually the Ass isn't too far behind. :laugh: :laugh:
Instead of Ordering or Buying a $35 dollar Pair of Levis the last time I ordered a $45 pair of these.
http://www.duluthtrading.com/store/andmore_home/andmore_firehose/86125.aspx?feature=Product_19 (http://www.duluthtrading.com/store/andmore_home/andmore_firehose/86125.aspx?feature=Product_19)
They are some Tough SOB's it took several Washings to get them Loosened up enough to wear.They Are Hot for Summer Wear but I'm sure if you go Down in a Pair you won't have much Road Rash. :thumb:Brown isn't my Favorite Color but I guess they'll do. :icon_confused:
:o :o :o Those look like some tough SOB's!!!!
oww i was coming back from class and had put my jeans in my backpack since i got soacked in the way their... i know not smart. :cry:
I went down going 10 mph w/ jeans on and rolled some. They did provide some protection but they easily wore through to my flesh. If your a recreational rider then get some decent protection. If your a commuter then you either have to change or just live with it. If you go down chances are jeans/ slacks whichever won't do squat.
I commute to class and work and sometime have to business casual. I just risk it, if its bad enough it won't make much of a difference. I don't ever wear shorts but honestly, if I went down in jeans I might as well be wearing shorts.
-Ash
Nick: Have you ever touched something hot then just stared at it vacantly until you couldn't resist the urge to touch it again.
Quote from: spcterry on July 06, 2007, 11:46:04 PM
Nick: Have you ever touched something hot then just stared at it vacantly until you couldn't resist the urge to touch it again.
no y?
uh huh, sure. Just wondering.
Nick: Have you ever touched a man in such a way that was deemed socially unacceptable but deep down you really liked it?
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
That was so my next question!!!