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Title: 06 steering damper
Post by: 06gs500f on July 09, 2007, 05:18:22 PM
well when i hit about 90 mph the front end starts to shake a little and i have to pull on bars till about 105mph then it is gone sometimes it is worse than others i was wandering if they make a stablizer for them i hav looked online for them but had no luck does anyone have any advice or info other than not to go that fast
Title: Re: 06 steering damper
Post by: spc on July 09, 2007, 05:19:33 PM
No damper for GS.   Problem Solution=Don't f%$king go that fast.
Title: Re: 06 steering damper
Post by: genEricStL on July 09, 2007, 05:25:38 PM
Do you have bar end sliders ? Putting some fairly heavy ones cured my problems ... though mine was at like 70ish and only when i had my hands off the bars . You got some big b*lls to have kept accelerating to find out that it does indeed go away at 105 lol ... if it'd gotten worse and you had a tank-slapper at 100mph you'd be one long-a$$ed skid mark and maybe a few bones :o
Title: Re: 06 steering damper
Post by: Jay_wolf on July 09, 2007, 05:40:44 PM
I have bar ends, and i dont get any shake..
Title: Re: 06 steering damper
Post by: genEricStL on July 09, 2007, 05:47:51 PM
That's what i meant ... i didn't have any ( the PO had crap bar-end mirrors that did nothing but shake hehe) when i had the shake
Title: Re: 06 steering damper
Post by: 06gs500f on July 09, 2007, 07:44:27 PM
yea i got bars end dont know how heavy they are they came with the bike do they sell heaveyer ones for it and is there any way to get a damper made for it or put a gixer one on
Title: Re: 06 steering damper
Post by: ben2go on July 09, 2007, 08:21:00 PM
I don't got nothin on the end of my bars.I don't get no shake,but my stem is tight.  :dunno_white:
Title: Re: 06 steering damper
Post by: Chris24 on July 09, 2007, 09:00:17 PM
Ohlins makes universal damper bars. they are a rod type damper, usually they are mounted/welded somewhere on the triple, and then onto the left side of the frame. however there are a number of ways you can mount it. i like the ohlins dampers alot, on the 97 GSXR 600 i used to have, i had one. it saved my @$$ multiple times.

just now looked on the ohlins site. they also have rotary type steering damers.

while i think dampers are great, and i see no problem with putting one on any bike, i got to ask:

why is this happening to you? does this happen to other GS riders?

rather than fixing the symptom, you need to address the problem. take a look at your tires. is there any funny wear? usually cupping on the tire can indicate suspension problems. might need to take a look at it, also check your tire pressure if you havnt. it may also be time to sevice your front forks, when was the last time? put new seals and fresh fluid. you might notice a huge improvement in handling. just some thoughts.
Title: Re: 06 steering damper
Post by: spc on July 09, 2007, 09:02:01 PM
whythefuckwouldyouputanohlinsdamperonabikeworthlessthanthefuckingdamper????????   
No the GS does not need a f%$king damper.  End of f%$king story, unless your GS is pumping out 100hp.
Title: Re: 06 steering damper
Post by: bubba zanetti on July 09, 2007, 09:09:52 PM
Quote from: spcterry on July 09, 2007, 09:02:01 PM
whythef%$kwouldyouputanohlinsdamperonabikeworthlessthanthef%$kingdamper????????   
No the GS does not need a f%$king damper.  End of f%$king story, unless your GS is pumping out 100hp.

Well it might be pumping out 100hp  :dunno_white:
Title: Re: 06 steering damper
Post by: spc on July 09, 2007, 09:13:30 PM
Yeah, if he forgot to mention the XR behind GS :flipoff:
Title: Re: 06 steering damper
Post by: Chris24 on July 09, 2007, 09:27:13 PM
hmmm. i disagree. HP's got less to do with it than proper suspension and whatnot.

i remember the first time i experianced a tankslapper. i needed a bike bad and i almost bought a KLX650.
which is a dirt/street bike. mainly made for dirt but it was street legal etc. i got it up to 60, and just past that i thought i was gonna die. glad i test drive it cause no way am i ever gonna have a daily rider that cant go over 60.
the tires and suspension just werent made for those speeds. the engine could have maybe done 75 but no way you could hold on...

the damper doesnt have to be expensive, you can probably find one off a nice crotchrocket... or at least whats left of a crotchrocket at the salvage yard. or find one off ebay, etc...
Title: Re: 06 steering damper
Post by: Chris24 on July 09, 2007, 09:29:15 PM
Quote from: spcterry on July 09, 2007, 09:13:30 PM
Yeah, if he forgot to mention the XR behind GS :flipoff:

hehe. or maybe exhaust, pods, weight reduction, timing advance, engine balance, big bore kit, jet kit...







...and a turbo... :icon_lol:









...AND NOS kit!  :laugh: :laugh:

it could happen!!!
Title: Re: 06 steering damper
Post by: spc on July 09, 2007, 09:29:46 PM
Pandy,  I found my new mach1, but this one can spell :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: 06 steering damper
Post by: spc on July 09, 2007, 09:32:10 PM
Quote from: Chris24 on July 09, 2007, 09:29:15 PM
Quote from: spcterry on July 09, 2007, 09:13:30 PM
Yeah, if he forgot to mention the XR behind GS :flipoff:

hehe. or maybe exhaust, pods, weight reduction, timing advance, engine balance, big bore kit, jet kit...







...and a turbo... :icon_lol:









...AND NOS kit!  :laugh: :laugh:

it could happen!!!
With all that you might hit 100hp but only for the 2 miles until the f%$king engine blew up.    Anyone here ever had a real tank
slapper on the GS????? 
Completely f%$king unnecessary, is what a steering damper is on the GS.
Title: Re: 06 steering damper
Post by: Jay_wolf on July 09, 2007, 09:32:20 PM
Got a Hagon in the rear , and progressives upfront in the gsx forks , Handling Wetness! :thumb:
Title: Re: 06 steering damper
Post by: 06gs500f on July 11, 2007, 11:11:17 AM
well i lowered my bars slide them closer to the tank and that has seemed to fix problem for now i just had it at 100mph and i did not get no shake
Title: Re: 06 steering damper
Post by: TragicImage on July 15, 2007, 04:02:37 PM
I've had a real tank slapper.......



but it was caused by a badly worn front tire combined with a suddenly flat rear tire.....
Title: Re: 06 steering damper
Post by: spc on July 15, 2007, 04:05:10 PM
Exactly, if you are having stability issues with the GS there is an outside cause :thumb:
Title: Re: 06 steering damper
Post by: Jay_wolf on July 15, 2007, 05:54:05 PM
Ive taken mine to the end , of the clocks ;) , and never experance shake , ive always had clipons , maybe that helps? im looking into having a damper tho ,  :thumb:
Title: Re: 06 steering damper
Post by: domas on July 15, 2007, 10:03:40 PM
Dood just stop holding onto your handlebars. Lean forward to fight wind resistance or acceleration forces. Worked magic for me.
Title: Re: 06 steering damper
Post by: hmmmnz on July 15, 2007, 11:09:10 PM
i have had a propper tank slapper on the gs.
the front wheel came off the ground over a crest at about 90mph
when i landed it i was coming into a corner and the wee gs just didnt like it and proceded to try and get me off.
only just made the corner and only just stayed on the bike.
Title: Re: 06 steering damper
Post by: bosozoku on July 16, 2007, 06:04:45 AM
Quote from: 06gs500f on July 09, 2007, 05:18:22 PM
well when i hit about 90 mph the front end starts to shake a little and i have to pull on bars till about 105mph then it is gone sometimes it is worse than others i was wandering if they make a stablizer for them i hav looked online for them but had no luck does anyone have any advice or info other than not to go that fast

Is the front wheel balanced?  Does the tire have any imperfections?  My GS doesn't speed wobble at 90 mph -- yours shouldn't, either.  Look at the root cause of the problem; don't band-aid it.

-b.
Title: Re: 06 steering damper
Post by: spc on July 16, 2007, 08:09:12 AM
+1, to bozo, find the real problem :thumb:
Title: Re: 06 steering damper
Post by: gs500f-gaz on July 16, 2007, 08:46:40 AM
had no probs with mine and i got pretty ight bar ends compaired to standard.
Title: Re: 06 steering damper
Post by: werase643 on July 16, 2007, 10:10:13 AM
tire...under inflated/overinflated
tire...worn weird
wheel brgs
steering stem brgs.....grease them any ways....
and make sure they are tight

fork oil ....level / viscocity

the steering angle is not a consideration on a GS....TL or CBR900 yes....GS no
Title: Re: 06 steering damper
Post by: 06gs500f on July 28, 2007, 07:22:05 AM
ever thing wiyh the front end is good i hg tank when riding fast and i still got the shake my friend has an 06 to and it does the same thing i dont see how the two i am on will and yalls dont can it be my weight
Title: Re: 06 steering damper
Post by: ohgood on July 28, 2007, 11:43:22 AM
Take your machine to a suzuki dealer. One you think has insurance. Pay a proper mechanic a proper amount to diagnose your problem.

No, a dampner is not the answer. Something already listed by others is wrong.

Also : "Testing" things by accelerating promptly to 100mph to 'see if it tries to throw you off' is a really bone headed thing to do. Please consult someone before you injure yourself or worse, others around you in the process.

Really man, this is outta control crazy.
Title: Re: 06 steering damper
Post by: speeddemon190 on July 28, 2007, 12:14:24 PM
yeah take it to a mechanic who knows what they are doing, i have an 05 and it doesnt shake at all at any speed. And for the DAmper question i think its only necessary on a GS if your going to stunt it. other than that theres no need for it.
Title: Re: 06 steering damper
Post by: dgyver on July 28, 2007, 07:08:58 PM
Sounds like the tire is out of balance.

Some shops do not balance tires. They are ok at normal legal speeds.
Title: Re: 06 steering damper
Post by: frankieG on July 28, 2007, 07:12:23 PM
i;m with the other who say "why go 100 mph?" because you can or you are stupid.  do you do 100 mph in your car? if yes you at least answered the question in my mind.