Really frustrated here.
Just got my 90 GS what, 2-3 weeks ago.
First, I dealt with a tire eating chain. That's now fixed and I have 2 brand new Pirelli Sport Demons.
Rear brake is straight now. Huzzah.
When I got the bike, it smelled like a gas station when running and still does.
I haven't smelled many vehicles that rich before.
I guess the upside is that it starts in .02 seconds everytime with or without choke applied no matter what temp the engine is.
In walks the next problem.
Besides the overpowering smell of gas, the bike seemed to run ok.
A little rough in the lower RPM range but smooth-ish after 5K with slight stumbling if you try to keep a steady speed.
TODAY however, a FUN thing.
The bike won't idle and even backfired on me TWICE.
Good thing it starts REALLY fast as I had to do it about 30 times on the ride home.
Tried the petcock in every position, same thing.
(Am full on gas. Filled up this mornin.)
Over 5K RPM, smooth-ish again but rougher than before.
1.5 - 5K though it stumbles and coughs and hiccups.
Come to a stop and the RPMs drop right out.
Eventually, I fiddled with the choke enough to have it idle at ~3K RPM and limped it home.
Needless to say, I'm not thrilled.
My first thought is that it's so damn rich that it's drowning.
My second thought is to sell the damn thing. :dunno_white:
Could explain why it smooths out at 5K under acceleration. (Oh yeah, forgot to mention if you try to keep it steady ANYWHERE, it tries to sputter but runs.)
I'm open to suggestions.
Please mind that I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer but I can follow instructions fairly well.
Where are you located?I'll take it,if you're close. :icon_mrgreen:
Dont think he ment , Give Give lol :dunno_white:
Yeah.
I have to fix this thing.
It's cost me waay too much.
If I were to sell it, I'd lose horribly.
I was hoping someone maybe had an "easy" suggestion like a carb adjustment or something that I could do that's not too involved.
Ah well, I can always take it to a shop and let them have at it and be deeper in still.
Clean the carbs :thumb:
Yup, clean em out. Also, did srinath tell ya what size mains you're running and if you have any washers under the needle. Pulling a washer from under the needle can help lean you out a little till you can get new smaller jets.
Quote from: spcterry on July 24, 2007, 03:06:15 PM
Yup, clean em out. Also, did srinath tell ya what size mains you're running and if you have any washers under the needle. Pulling a washer from under the needle can help lean you out a little till you can get new smaller jets.
He may have told me and I forgot but I don't remember.
Looks like I get to take it to the shop.
I really have no space to work on carbs.
*sigh*
Just another thing to do.
The front springs are SHOT.
I know how they normally feel and these bottom out if you downshift.
They are REALLY shot.
The back isn't much better.
I really wish I still had my Clymer manual still from when I owned my first GS.
That one never needed anything though.
It was an 89 and it ran all day with no problems.
I guess I was hopeful I'd get another like it. :dunno_white:
Ehhh, just pull the tank off. Then pop your slide caps off and pull the needles out. Take out the washer and put it all back. Don't even have to take the carbs off.
Quote from: spcterry on July 24, 2007, 03:18:42 PM
Ehhh, just pull the tank off. Then pop your slide caps off and pull the needles out. Take out the washer and put it all back. Don't even have to take the carbs off.
May give that a try.
Just pulled the plugs.
HOLY CRAPSHIT!
I have NEVER seen plugs that black in my ENTIRE life. :o
I'm used to working on Turbo cars and such.
I'm used to running a little rich here and there.
These things look like someone rubbed them on charcoal briquettes!
mine was running really rich before ,like it was jetted for the kn and exhaust , so
with a lunchbox and exhaust and slight tweaking ,im spot on :thumb:
You have a stuck or sticking float ...
OK this is what you do ...
Sit by it right under the left foot peg area - preferably outside ... but in your house is fine if you drain the float bowls.
Then with handle spinner type ratchet and the allen wrenches that fit a 3/8th ratchet get the 2 bolts that hold in the float bowl off.
Do 1 float bowl at a time. See if the float will move up and down freely, then put it in prime and see where it closes and where it begins to flow. Also when closed see if it has a still flowing condition.
Repeat for other (right) carb.
Now also find out why ???
See if you get undue sediment or weird looking stuff in the bowls or in the gas you drain.
That means gas quality is bad where you fill, BTW you running regular or premium. Regular is what it ran fine on, and premium tanks at gas stations dont get that much action and therefore a ton of crap gets into the few people that use it.
Getting worse = something is stuck and getting worse. Be gentle and dont force stuff in or out. Those carbs were clean though so I doubt you got anything crazy.
You can send it to me ... but this will be faster. I'll check on it free - you can pack in nicely with the wheels and I'll check and send back immediately. However, How about you give it a whirl first. You'd figure it out as fast anyway.
Cool.
Srinath.
The left plug is blacker than the right ???
If so, there may be another diagnosis.
Take off the vacuum line from frame petcock, plug the open end with a golf T, and the frame petcock with a rubber cap. Try it in prime.
If its the same problem is stuck floats.
Cool.
Srinath.
Quote from: seshadri_srinath on July 24, 2007, 05:29:11 PM
premium tanks at gas stations dont get that much action and therefore a ton of crap gets into the few people that use it.
I've never heard this before , but i feel kinda dumb for not thinking of it hehe ... nice observation . I've been putting super unleaded in my bike the last 5-6 times and 3 or 4 of those times i've had problems the closer i got to empty . The bike starts to get a sputter , so i just fill it back up and add more Seafoam lol . I even looked for sediment in the tank but never saw any . I didn't think about old gas ... good tip :thumb:
Yea, the more $$$ gas is, the less people will use premium.
Also the damn truck I have runs a 1000 times better with premium. I know that first hand. The only stations I fill at are what I call the 5 cent or 6 or 7 cent stations.
The spread between regular and premium is 10-14 cents, making people likely to get premium there. Even so, after 30K miles the huge ass fuel filter in it is filled with crap ... my wife's mitsubishi running on regular, 90K, her filter was still clean.
Anyway, no clue that that is what is going on, but just thought I'd see if its the reason.
Cool.
Srinath.
Quote from: seshadri_srinath on July 24, 2007, 05:55:24 PM
The left plug is blacker than the right ???
If so, there may be another diagnosis.
Take off the vacuum line from frame petcock, plug the open end with a golf T, and the frame petcock with a rubber cap. Try it in prime.
If its the same problem is stuck floats.
Cool.
Srinath.
No, both plugs look like charcoal. They were CAKED black. I replaced the plugs.
Of course still won't idle and runs like crap.
I may look at the carbs or just wait for mechanic visit.
Quote from: seshadri_srinath on July 24, 2007, 05:29:11 PM
You have a stuck or sticking float ...
OK this is what you do ...
Sit by it right under the left foot peg area - preferably outside ... but in your house is fine if you drain the float bowls.
Then with handle spinner type ratchet and the allen wrenches that fit a 3/8th ratchet get the 2 bolts that hold in the float bowl off.
Do 1 float bowl at a time. See if the float will move up and down freely, then put it in prime and see where it closes and where it begins to flow. Also when closed see if it has a still flowing condition.
Repeat for other (right) carb.
Now also find out why ???
See if you get undue sediment or weird looking stuff in the bowls or in the gas you drain.
That means gas quality is bad where you fill, BTW you running regular or premium. Regular is what it ran fine on, and premium tanks at gas stations dont get that much action and therefore a ton of crap gets into the few people that use it.
Getting worse = something is stuck and getting worse. Be gentle and dont force stuff in or out. Those carbs were clean though so I doubt you got anything crazy.
You can send it to me ... but this will be faster. I'll check on it free - you can pack in nicely with the wheels and I'll check and send back immediately. However, How about you give it a whirl first. You'd figure it out as fast anyway.
Cool.
Srinath.
She got premium once and usually gets regular.
Also, I get my gas from the QT close to me and they do CRAZY business so I'm sure it's not unused gas.
I'll take a looksie.
Time to pull the carbs and pop em in the dip tank for a night.
I know, I hate doing it too.
OK let me Ask One Question.Are you Running Resistor Plugs? If so Ditch them and Buy Regular NGK,Autolite,AC Delco or Denso plugs.Just from My Experience Stay Away from Champions.I won't even use them in my Lawnmower.If your Plugs are Black they are more than Likely Fouled.
#2 Your Bike Has Resistor Caps.The Little Resistors on the Inside can and Will Build up too much Resistance over time.You can Unscrew the Slotted Thing a ma Jobbie out of the end of the Cap and Replace the Resistor with a Section of Brass from the Model Shop OR if you have some House Hold Electrical Wire you can Cut a Piece to fit inside of the Cap Pretty Easily.
With Resistor Caps AND Resistor Plugs you will have too much resistance and won't get a Complete Burn.With the Above Modifications to the Caps you'll be able to run Resistor Plugs.
#3 Unscrew the Plug Cap off of your Lead Wire.Cut the End Off around 1/4" and rethread the Cap back onto the wire.Make Sure it's Threaded on Nice and Tight.Do the same for the Coil End of the Wires.
#4 Unplug and Replug the Wires Connected to the Coils.If the Connections are a Little Corroded Clean them.Make sure you Plug them back up.
Here is a Picture of what you'll find in the Plug Cap.The White thing is the Resistor.
(http://mars.walagata.com/w/jughead/plug_cap.jpg)
The reason I say All of this is Because I bought a Perfectly good 89 GS500 with Lesss than 15,000 miles.The Counter Balancer when Bad and Spun the Bearing.The Also Thought that the Motor Was Blown since it was Fouling out Plugs and Blowing Black Smoke.It wasn't from Oil but from what looked to be the Carbs running Rich.I tore into the Carbs and they were Almost As Clean as the day they Left the Factory.The Owner Started Having Problems After He Installed Resistor Plugs. :thumb:
Quote from: Jay_wolf on July 24, 2007, 02:27:52 PM
Dont think he ment , Give Give lol :dunno_white:
yep.I was just kidding.He lives below me in GA,I think.
I think I live maybe 5 or 10 min's from you. If you want bring the bike over, I never worked on a pre 04 but it can't be that different. Also I know these are good but they may be better than what you have. I have factory springs with spacers sitting here if you want them to replace yours. They came out of a 05.
Let me know
Dave
Quote from: blue05twin on July 25, 2007, 05:09:25 AM
I think I live maybe 5 or 10 min's from you. If you want bring the bike over, I never worked on a pre 04 but it can't be that different. Also I know these are good but they may be better than what you have. I have factory springs with spacers sitting here if you want them to replace yours. They came out of a 05.
Let me know
Dave
Dave, that would be AWESOME!
I know so little and I have no book and I have no space.
I live in Norcross at 85 & Jimmy Carter.
I'm a little low on funds right now but could buy you dinner or something. (Stupid 2 week pay periods)
I'll gladly accept any help.
Rode the bike to work this morning out of sheer determination and the hope that maybe if comething was "stuck" it would unstuck. ;) (Can't blame me for trying the whole optimism thing.)
Anyway, same as usual except now I also get lovely little puffs of black smoke.
The thing was pig rich when I got it and it is apparently just getting worse.
Still the same, won't idle unless you play with the choke and then blip the throttle about 10-15 times and then you get an idle anywhere from 2000-3200.
Lots and lots of surging.
Of course, the only thing I had done was replace the plugs with what was in it before. Champion RA6HC.
As interesting an idea of the resistors being bad is, I really think it's just jetted WAAAY off.
Finally got to work and was parking.
Idle was at about 1800 after fiddling a ton and I put the kickstand out and leaned her over.
Idle rose to about 4000.
Pull the bike up center, back down to 1800.
On kickstand again, 3500.
Is that normal?
I swear I've NEVER seen a bike do that and I KNOW my other GS didn't.
This thing needs help.
I also noticed that the bolt in the exhaust hanger is backing itself out.
Look down, no nut on it.
BRILLIANT!
Just one more thing to get.
Oh yeah, before I forget.
The bike also didn't have the little metal spring clip that holds the bulb in the reflector.
Anyone have a spare or do you think I could get one from a "stealership?"
Yeah, I got a winner.
I had a 92 GSX600F that did the same thing with the idle on the stand. I figured out that it was snagged in the mess under the tank, and once freed and re-routed, the idle fluctuations stopped. that bike got so bad I couldn't start it on the side stand without idling up to about 7K. Id say check when your cable is run through for the culprit of that problem.
Quote from: ssinema on July 25, 2007, 06:26:57 AM
I had a 92 GSX600F that did the same thing with the idle on the stand. I figured out that it was snagged in the mess under the tank, and once freed and re-routed, the idle fluctuations stopped. that bike got so bad I couldn't start it on the side stand without idling up to about 7K. Id say check when your cable is run through for the culprit of that problem.
I'll look into that too.
Hopefully, I have some local help and maybe we can get the poor thing running right.
Thanks for the tip.
:laugh: I'm not the best but I will try to help I'll pm you my addy.
Quote from: blue05twin on July 25, 2007, 06:47:15 AM
:laugh: I'm not the best but I will try to help I'll pm you my addy.
I appreciate it.
Side stand vs center stand is probably somehting with float level and fuel flow.
The steering turning left (happens when on side stand) vs steering straight = cable hanging up, typically choke cable.
I asked you to check choke bar on the carb a few days ago. I think choke is getting held open, and the steering plays a part in that.
The exhaust hangar bolt, must have lost its nut. Certain bikes somehow loosen some bolts, no idea why. I have a 96 that my friend owns that loosens the tach cable. Even when tightened with pliers, it will loosen it. My old 89 used to shake the tail and lose tail light bulbs so bad. It also used to lose the exhaust nut thinking of it. I got it that way actually. Get a nylock nut. Maybe get like 3/8th dia fine thread, nylock.
Carbs are either float - still has my $$$ and in fact, getting worse definetly is float IMHO, and stuck need not neccesarily get unstuck with use, or choke.
BTW, check float level with U tube method. If floats are stuck, it will show there.
Oh ... the spark plugs in it were new. if you have the old ones, why dont you swap them back in and try. I have had some serious bad luck with NGK's, but you put the 809 champions back in, anyway, try swapping the ones I had back in.
Cool.
Srinath.
Quote from: seshadri_srinath on July 25, 2007, 11:42:56 AM
Side stand vs center stand is probably somehting with float level and fuel flow.
The steering turning left (happens when on side stand) vs steering straight = cable hanging up, typically choke cable.
I asked you to check choke bar on the carb a few days ago. I think choke is getting held open, and the steering plays a part in that.
The exhaust hangar bolt, must have lost its nut. Certain bikes somehow loosen some bolts, no idea why. I have a 96 that my friend owns that loosens the tach cable. Even when tightened with pliers, it will loosen it. My old 89 used to shake the tail and lose tail light bulbs so bad. It also used to lose the exhaust nut thinking of it. I got it that way actually. Get a nylock nut. Maybe get like 3/8th dia fine thread, nylock.
Carbs are either float - still has my $$$ and in fact, getting worse definetly is float IMHO, and stuck need not neccesarily get unstuck with use, or choke.
BTW, check float level with U tube method. If floats are stuck, it will show there.
Oh ... the spark plugs in it were new. if you have the old ones, why dont you swap them back in and try. I have had some serious bad luck with NGK's, but you put the 809 champions back in, anyway, try swapping the ones I had back in.
Cool.
Srinath.
I can't put the plugs that were in it back in.
They are so fouled I don't see how they were firing in the first place.
I mean they were SO CAKED UP that there was barely gap left.
They are SOLID BLACK.
That's how rich the damn engine is running.
I put new RA6HC (the same ones that you had in the bike) in last night. I bet if I pull them, they're already fouled to hell too.
In the short run I had when you delivered it, I thought it was running rich but thought it was just me and not having ridden a bike in a while.
Hindsight is always 20-20 they say.
It smelled like a gas station when it ran then and smells like a gas station when it runs now.
Hopefully gonna get it taken care of tonight or soon.
On the center stand, with the choke pushed all the way, it doesn't close fully.
I didn't check it with the steering turned.
I'm not that mechanically inclined and never worked on motorcycles.
That's why I was looking for a bike that didn't need to be tinkered with.
On the center stand, with the choke pushed all the way, it doesn't close fully.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Problem. My bet - the cable is kinked or the cable end at the carb is out of its seat.
The bike did not smell like gas - your house would hahve smelt and I'd never have left it like that. I know from experience loading on the back of a truck and running it 250 miles, it can cause things to come loose.
Carbon fouled plugs can be cleaned, and in fact that works better on plugs. I still suggest you clean and refit the old plugs (pretty new anyway not old).
Trust me, you have a iffy plug and you tear the bike open trying to fix it and its still bad, and you find out its the plugs - you are going to feel stupid.
True story. Me and Ginovega did this exact same thing ~3 years ago and it took us 1 week to figure it out. Then on day 7 he mentioned that all he did was swap plugs after I left his house and I think, well maybe I should try a different plug, and I put 809 champions and the bloody thing ran like it was a race horse.
The quality of plugs and additives in fuels have somehow conspired to turn the act of swapping spark plugs into russian roulette.
Old plugs back in after a tooth brush clean. That will tell you. BTW bad plugs can make your ignition trigger mechanism short out and die. My virago 535 did that. Pretty much the damn yamaha's all get new plugs every 3 months of use.
NGK's turned to sheite IMHO, who knows Champions are next ??? BTW, they are all made in the same damn factory in Mooresville NC.
Cool.
Srinath.
Three cheers for DAVE! (blue05twin)
We got the bike running and idling.
The floats were not stuck.
When he dropped the bowls, there was a LOT of rust particle in there so we (he actually as he did like everything) figured it was a clogged jet.
Sprayed carb cleaner in there.
Dumped a little seafoam in the tank and after a little swearing, the bike fired up.
Amazingly enough, it even idled well.
Probably still a bit rich but at least it's smooth and running.
The tank has some good rust in the bottom so I'm told to get "415" and gonna treat it in a week or so.
Thanks again Dave for staying up late and helping a desperate guy try to work out of a bad situation. :thumb:
Here's a link to it.
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=8364.0
POR-15 sorry my por must have sounded like a 4 :laugh:
Anytime and let me know when you want to do the front springs thats a lot faster and easier
OK stop ... that tank did not have rust ...
You may have gotten it from the gas you filled.
How about you send me that tank if needed, I'll POR it free if needed, or I'll send you a quart can of it free. However I am betting it was transient rust, not resident rust.
Put a fuel filter first. Well slosh it like crazy and dump the fuel ... then get fresh new gas, and fit a filter.
Anyway, how did rust make it and smell like gas ???
I can see how it clogged jets and messed up the running. Acting rich and smelling like gas ... nope.
And, congrads to both of you.
Cool.
Srinath.
Quote from: blue05twin on July 25, 2007, 10:57:03 PM
Here's a link to it.
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=8364.0
POR-15 sorry my por must have sounded like a 4 :laugh:
Anytime and let me know when you want to do the front springs thats a lot faster and easier
I have crappy hearing. You probably said it right and my head translated it to "4." :laugh:
Quote from: seshadri_srinath on July 26, 2007, 12:21:06 AM
OK stop ... that tank did not have rust ...
You may have gotten it from the gas you filled.
How about you send me that tank if needed, I'll POR it free if needed, or I'll send you a quart can of it free. However I am betting it was transient rust, not resident rust.
Put a fuel filter first. Well slosh it like crazy and dump the fuel ... then get fresh new gas, and fit a filter.
Anyway, how did rust make it and smell like gas ???
I can see how it clogged jets and messed up the running. Acting rich and smelling like gas ... nope.
And, congrads to both of you.
Cool.
Srinath.
No clue but you can ask Dave how fouled the plugs were that I pulled.
That rust isn't "transient" either. Upon closer inspection, it's all over the bottom of the tank.
I'm gonna "por" it and put a fuel filter on it.
Then I'm probably going to sell it.
OK here is my thought on this.
Fouled plugs and smelling of gas and poor gas mileage etc are indicative of a super rich condition, as is black smoke and what not.
Clogged pilots will not cause that. They will cause lean condition.
Rust in tank will clog pilots, but will make it lean not rich.
So, ride it and post back here what its doing. Somehow I dont think its fully solved yet.
I can treat your Tank with POR 15 if you want. I can also send you a can ... I dont have the cleaner and the acid, but I would use a little muriatic acid to do both cleaning and etching.
Anyway, the important thing ... tank has to be dry dry dry before you toss the POR-15 in it. And you will need gastank liner, not the usual POR-15.
I have another idea ... come over to my house with the tank and carbs. I'll treat the tank and look over the carbs - 3 hours and you can get back on the road. For good measure, bring the petcocks too. I got some serious crap to coat the tank, block off plates for the top, block off's for the petcock, and all the needed chemicals and what not and no ... you cannot do any of this indoors, POR-15 is loaded with lead. You definetly dont want that crap anywhere near you when its not dry and hard and cured. Also bring lots of rags and like plastic etc ... you dont want mishaps in your car, you'll be rotating the tank all the way back home, every 10-15 mins.
Cool.
Srinath.
Stopped by an auto parts place and got some stuff to eat the rust out the tank.
When I dumped the tank, I had enough crap to build a sand castle.
It was horrible.
Gonna treat the tank tonight and hope it does the trick.
(Got something that will remove the rust but nothing to coat the tank.)
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go build a sand....errr....sediment/rust castle.
Hey Dave, I think I'll take you up on those springs.
I'm determined to get this bike actually running right and keeping it a bit.
I'm on a mission now.
Damn ... I had it for over 500 miles, and several people including average here rode it. When average rode it ... it idled at 1500 when cold and 2500 when hot. That was it. After that I re set the floats and re did the idle. Bowls were clean and those carbs were dirty outside and squeaky clean inside always whenever I opened it.
2 things may have happened - it was caked up with old gas turning into varnish and locking the crap in there, in the crap pockets and came loose with my trucking it and your subsequent riding. Or it came out of a gas station. With loose crap, it actually affects its running very immediately.
Now, you still rich and still smelling like gas ???
Cool.
Srinath.
is this the red GS that Diaz rode around for 20 odd min a couple of weeks ago?
Yes that's the one.
Cool.
Srinath.
I dunno man but it was seriously an awful lot of stuff came out and that was BEFORE I put this stuff in there to eat the rust out.
You know how big the cap is for Seafoam? It would have filled that cap at LEAST 3/4 with just the sediment that came out when I emptied the tank.
Not exaggerating, not making stuff up.
There's still crud all over the inside of the tank so I may have to give it a second treatment.
Whatever it takes, I'm gonna make this thing run.
Just wish I would have known this stuff before hand.
You say it wasn't like that but I'm telling you and blue05twin saw it firsthand too.
This thing was in some serious dire straights.
I'm just hopin to get it all straightened out and enjoy a motorcycle.
3/4 of the spray can cap ??? that's nothing, I have seen 3-4 times that whole cap come out if a crap pocket is messed up and clogged with crap. That must be from the gas station, its too less for it to be crap pocket ... I think. You know, I had another guy do almost the exact same thing last year to a vulcan 750 I sold him. 1-2 tanks of premium and the bike just clogged up and died, carb cleaning did precious little, finally the third time I still see brown gas in the carbs and tons of stuff that looks like water ... I empty the tank and put fresh gas and its great.
Premium is a killer, I dread putting it in my truck and I never fill where I dont see that 6-7 cent difference.
Stuff to eat rust from autoparts store ... what is in it ... and how you neutralise it and get it out ???
BTW, you will need to empty the crap pockets really thorougly of that stuff. The GS tank is the hardest to do anything on due to those crap pockets.
I also had 2 other guys ride it ... no 3 others apart fron diaz, and I rode it ~400 miles before and 100 miles after the last job I did - remember the alternator pics ... after that I did a 100 miles literally the day before I trucked it over.
Cool.
Srinath.
Maybe you didn't understand.
That's just what was LOOSE and came out.
The stuff in the tank is eating away at all the crap that's coroded in there now.
Again, I don't believe for ONE second that it's the gas station. I fill at QT and they are filling tanks probably everyday due to the business they do.
Also, only one tank of premium in the bike.
I run premium in all my cars. I had an SRT-4 and it HAD to have premium and always fill at the same spot.
My CSX, Shadow TII pushing 24psi Boost, Daytona Iroc Turbo, Nissan Truck, Mazda 3, ALL premium. Never one problem. (The Shadow was PARTICULARLY picky too. It had to be clean gas or it wouldn't run. I wouldn't run worth CRAP from Shell gas. It liked BP and QT.)
So, no, it's not the gas station.
At this point, I don't really care how many people rode it.
I'm telling you how it is.
I'm not trying to be rude but the bike was not "road worthy" considering all that's had to be done to it.
I appreciate all the tips and help. I'm not here to "sour" anyone's name.
I just want to get the bike that I bought running.
Maybe the "pockets" had crap in it like you said but I don't see how they could have loosened and then corroded the bottom of the tank like it was.
All I want to focus on now is to actually get it running so I can ride it.
I'll chock this up to a learning experience as in a way, it's teaching me about motorcycles which I never worked on.
My other GS never saw a shop and I told you about that Katana I had. (Cycle Stop was good to me)
I may as well learn some stuff as it will help me down the line.
Besides, out of everything, it got me to meet blue05twin and he's a really good guy so now I have a riding partner. :cheers:
Maybe it went through the Bermuda triangle. LOL! ;)
No sweat, I appreciate your input.
We'll get it running on this end and then I'll post a bajillion pictures of where I've gone.
OK well ... make sure it doesn't eat clear through the wall. The tank is thick wall, but it aint indestructible.
The tank didn't feel too heavy when I had it drained and I was handling it ... I cant imagine it having crap in the crap pockets. Remember ... I would have sliced it open in a second if it had needed it much like I have on over a dozen tanks including some I bought from people here. I had that blue swapper, I'd have cut it open and fixed it on my terms, put the blue on it and still had it running.
Anyway, good luck, hope you get to enjoying it.
Cool.
Srinath.