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Title: Remote starting
Post by: Garethbourne on November 29, 2007, 10:24:37 AM
Fitted an alarm with remote starting and immobiliser on the GS and it works great, I can start or stop the bike from 500 yards away,no key requierd, it took me about an hour to fit (mostly removing body work) and the best part is the alarm only cost like £15 that's like $30 bucks, lol.
Title: Re: Remote starting
Post by: dgyver on November 29, 2007, 10:47:50 AM
Why a remote starter? I see no purpose except for bling. The choke has to be set correctly and the bike has to be in neutral. To each their own.
Title: Re: Remote starting
Post by: Garethbourne on November 29, 2007, 11:01:49 AM
Pure bling !!! lol, ( choke in the morning, or when its cold, but its not just starting, you can allso stop the bike if you se it being stolen, besides nothing wrong with a bit of bling, lol and it has a fully functioning alarm, in the package, and that alone as to be worth 30 bucks, right
Title: Re: Remote starting
Post by: kml.krk on November 29, 2007, 11:58:07 AM
I have an alarm too. How did you omit choke and side stand start locking system?? (you know - you have to pull the clutch in and close the side stand in order to start the bike)
You could leave the bike on a center stand or in neutral but what about the clutch??
cheers
Title: Re: Remote starting
Post by: jasonisme on November 29, 2007, 12:17:58 PM
I think the clutch/side stand starting thing is only on US models.  At least the half a dozen different UK GS500's I rode while learning didn't have that feature.
Title: Re: Remote starting
Post by: Garethbourne on November 29, 2007, 12:24:29 PM
Brought the bike as a stolen recovered, it had also been damaged, head light clocks and ignition all ripped out, so no longer need the clutch lever pulled in to start the bike, (the bike still won't start if the side stand is down and the bike is in gear) there is no ignition switch any longer and hence no key, as such, as the alarm remote now turns on the ignition and starts the bike, but sadly you still need to firstly apply the choke when first started if it is cold, so all I do is apply the choke at the end of the day, so it is all ready for starting in the morning, (not forgetting not to leave in gear) that way you get to warm up the bike with out the need of getting cold yourself, lol. (http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff176/garethbourne/SP_A0209.jpg)
Title: Re: Remote starting
Post by: Garethbourne on November 29, 2007, 12:45:54 PM
I know i am going of the subject a little but as i said i brought the bike as a stolen recovered, it had also been damaged, head light clocks and ignition all ripped out, it also had clip-on bars and one was bent, so I added renthol bars and some risers, but the risers wouldn't allow the bars to sit in them as the front forks have preload adjusters on them and had to push the forks lower in the yokes, so now the front end is about one inch higher, so I could do with some risers that lean back a little so I can pull the fork legs back up, and reduce the height, something like the risers on a 535 Virago, don't suppose anyone on here as anything like that ?
Title: Re: Remote starting
Post by: ABSOLUTNATI on November 29, 2007, 12:58:12 PM
Who makes that instrument gauge cluster? It's pretty sweet!
Title: Re: Remote starting
Post by: Garethbourne on November 29, 2007, 01:01:18 PM
A company called (TrialTech) cost me £100 that's about 200 bucks, US it works fine,
Title: Re: Remote starting
Post by: Garethbourne on November 29, 2007, 01:11:03 PM
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Title: Re: Remote starting
Post by: gmingst on November 29, 2007, 01:29:02 PM
FYI on my 06 I can start on the side or center stand, no issue.  It does need to have the clutch held under all starting.  If I am on the sidestand and put it in gear the engine cuts out.

Regards
Graham
Title: Re: Remote starting
Post by: dgyver on November 29, 2007, 01:38:04 PM
Quote from: gmingst on November 29, 2007, 01:29:02 PM
FYI on my 06 I can start on the side or center stand, no issue.  It does need to have the clutch held under all starting.  If I am on the sidestand and put it in gear the engine cuts out.

Regards
Graham

The side stand switch is normal for all US bikes, probably for other markets as well. It is not safe starting a bike in gear while on the side stand and then it lurches forward falling off the stand.
Title: Re: Remote starting
Post by: Garethbourne on November 29, 2007, 01:48:18 PM
No need to pull the clutch on my 93 GS to start it up, but you are right about the side stand and it being in gear, the bike must be in Neutral befor the motor will turn over.
The alarm is wired to a permanent live it then as one wire that connects to what would be the first position on the ignition switch, and another wire that connects to the low tension positive side of the starter relay, so once the start button is pressed twice on the remote, it puts power to the ignition and sends power the starter relay and cranks the motor, hence no key, then if you press the arm button on the remote it kills all power and arms the alarm.
Title: Re: Remote starting
Post by: sledge on November 29, 2007, 02:00:57 PM
...assuming the engine is warm and needs no choke?
Title: Re: Remote starting
Post by: Garethbourne on November 29, 2007, 02:06:07 PM
yeah, thats about the top and bottom of it, lol,
Put something simular on my Drifter, last year, but that one cast me quite a bit more money than the alarm i got for the GS.(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff176/garethbourne/SP_A0193.jpg)
Title: Re: Remote starting
Post by: CndnMax on November 29, 2007, 02:43:49 PM
Quote from: gmingst on November 29, 2007, 01:29:02 PM
It does need to have the clutch held under all starting.
edit: nvm i read that wrong  :laugh:
Title: Re: Remote starting
Post by: Garethbourne on November 29, 2007, 02:54:38 PM
Know what ya mean, my 1200 Bandit was like that, (clutch in or no start) you can bridge the switch on the cutch to stop that from happening
Title: Re: Remote starting
Post by: simon79 on November 29, 2007, 06:08:58 PM
Quote from: dgyver on November 29, 2007, 01:38:04 PM
The side stand switch is normal for all US bikes, probably for other markets as well. It is not safe starting a bike in gear while on the side stand and then it lurches forward falling off the stand.

Safety devices featured on mine, too (Italian market)
Clutch switch, sidestand switch and neutral switch, all of them up & running. :thumb:
I think it's the same for the whole EU market.
Title: Re: Remote starting
Post by: Jay_wolf on November 29, 2007, 06:17:04 PM
I have the same alarm , had troubles with the Immobilizer , The remote Ignitions kool , but i couldnt get it to turn off on the button lol
Title: Re: Remote starting
Post by: Kerry on November 29, 2007, 06:50:17 PM
Quote from: Garethbourne on November 29, 2007, 12:45:54 PMI could do with some risers that lean back a little so I can pull the fork legs back up, and reduce the height, something like the risers on a 535 Virago, don't suppose anyone on here as anything like that ?

Like these GenMar risers, perhaps?

(http://bbburma.net/MiscFotos/100_0512_GenMar_FromLeft.jpg)
Title: Re: Remote starting
Post by: ohgood on November 29, 2007, 07:07:05 PM
Remote starting, alarms, no thanks. Any thief that knows stuff just clips the leads while throwing your bike in a freshly stolen white panel van.

A few of the pictures I've seen even had padding in the van, so if an alarm was going off, it wasn't heard when the doors were shut.

I'm not knocking you for it. It's just not something I'd play with, on a carburated bike.
Title: Re: Remote starting
Post by: scottpA_GS on November 29, 2007, 07:30:35 PM
MORE PICS OF YOUR GS !!!!

Thise red bars w/ red pj look sweet... Also that doesnt look like a GS top tripple...


MORE PICS!!!  :thumb:
Title: Re: Remote starting
Post by: ABSOLUTNATI on November 29, 2007, 08:14:20 PM
The white padded vans don't stop a .45 Desrt Eagle.
Title: Re: Remote starting
Post by: Garethbourne on November 30, 2007, 01:34:38 AM
What button on the remote, are you pressing to turn the bike off, try the one that looks like an open lock
Title: Re: Remote starting
Post by: Garethbourne on November 30, 2007, 01:55:05 AM
It's a GS 500, not the latest R1 or Blade, not the sort of thing you would normally find on Mr organised crimes list of bikes to be stolen, I'm sure . lol. And I would have thought that it would more than likely be local kids or the opportunist, that would be more likely to steal it, besides the bike is worth more on paper, than I paid for it.
The alarm and starter are more like a gimmick rather than a deterrent because, lets face facts here, if some one wants the bike nothing I can do will stop them from getting it in the end, well not legally, anyway lol.
Title: Re: Remote starting
Post by: Garethbourne on November 30, 2007, 02:08:48 AM
Hi Scott, the Red bars are renthol and the top yoke is an original but the bike had clip on bars and they attach to the top yoke via a silver/grey clamp that looks a little like the top yoke and sits on top then bolted to the yoke in the same way as the risers are, if that makes any sense, lol.
I do have more pictures of the bike, but they have been taken with a cell phone and are not brilliant.


(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff176/garethbourne/SP_A0215.jpg)
Title: Re: Remote starting
Post by: Garethbourne on November 30, 2007, 02:12:46 AM
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff176/garethbourne/SP_A0208-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Remote starting
Post by: sledge on November 30, 2007, 08:14:12 AM
Thats pretty tidy that is Gar`. Looks suitable and well planned. Needs a paint job though, in addition to the front end and I can see a black frame/wheels, gold-chain and chrome sprocket, home-brewed one-off polished aluminium chain guard, rear-sets, a braced and chrome plated swinger with jack-up kit, lots of annodised fittings, stainless brake-lines, uprated front brake, polished carbs and JCB yellow or met`silver bodywork.
I spent too much time and money making mine look like its came straight-from-the-crate to start messing with it now but I have considered finding another to mildly customise along those lines.
Title: Re: Remote starting
Post by: ohgood on November 30, 2007, 08:22:29 AM
Do the bars you have installed make it any more prone to wheelies  ?

I've been thinking about a more upright setup than the stock set I have.

I'd likely go with black though, so as not to look like a stunter or draw any attention from those types.
Title: Re: Remote starting
Post by: scottpA_GS on November 30, 2007, 08:57:56 AM
Looks Killer !!!

:thumb:
Title: Re: Remote starting
Post by: kml.krk on November 30, 2007, 11:12:11 AM
Quote from: ohgood on November 29, 2007, 07:07:05 PM
Remote starting, alarms, no thanks. Any thief that knows stuff just clips the leads while throwing your bike in a freshly stolen white panel van.

A few of the pictures I've seen even had padding in the van, so if an alarm was going off, it wasn't heard when the doors were shut.

I'm not knocking you for it. It's just not something I'd play with, on a carburated bike.

I didn't "install" the remote starter future. I don't think it's usefull. And I installed alarm to scare off stupid, occasional thieves  :thumb:
Plus when you leave your bike uncovered it works wonders for people who are not intented to TOUCH and sit on your bike, but do so  :icon_twisted:  They jump off very quickly when alarm gives the WARNING sound  :icon_twisted:

cheers
KaMeL
Title: Re: Remote starting
Post by: Garethbourne on November 30, 2007, 12:49:57 PM
   (Oh Good) wheelies, on the GS, whatever next? the only way you will get the front end of the GS of the ground, would be with a paddock stand, lol, only Joking, the bars make the bike feel a lot more comfortable, as it's a far more relaxed riding position.
Managed to get hold of an Honda VF 750 F belly pan, (looked like I could mod, it) from a breakers, only cost £10, had to cut and shape a little, and paint it, but it didn't take to long, now just need to make some fixings, to fix it to the frame, I have included a picture, (belly pan not attached to bike yet) I have placed the belly pan up to the bike to see how it will look.
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff176/garethbourne/SP_A0220.jpg)
Its tilting a little forward at the minute, but it won't be once the fixings ar done