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Title: which frame sliders?
Post by: lnb001 on March 06, 2008, 03:10:39 PM
So I am putting a brand new Jardine full exhaust on my '04 and the last thing I want is to drop my bike and scratch it all up.  I was considering frame sliders but after spending all this money on the exhaust I am not too sure.  I know I will have to cut holes in my fairings and all that... I am just confused as to which sliders will work for me.  I was also thinking about the case guards...will the ones at MC enterprises work and will those protect my exhaust in the event of a drop?  I am almost 99% sure I am defairing my bike so my main concern is protecting the exhaust.  What do you guys think?  Thanks.

-Lucas
Title: Re: which frame sliders?
Post by: ohgood on March 06, 2008, 03:19:06 PM
i've dropped mine on both sides a few times just for the hell of it. the V&H on mine didn't receive any scratches, which surprised me. maybe a set o guards is all it needs.  :thumb:
Title: Re: which frame sliders?
Post by: Jay_wolf on March 06, 2008, 03:46:22 PM
Checlk the wiki . they have the ugly case guards , and the good looking sliders
Title: Re: which frame sliders?
Post by: Jay_wolf on March 06, 2008, 03:50:42 PM
http://cgi.stanford.edu/~sanjayd/gs500/Upgrades/CaseGuards


http://cgi.stanford.edu/~sanjayd/gs500/Upgrades/FrameSliders

Hope this helps  :thumb:
Title: Re: which frame sliders?
Post by: philward on March 06, 2008, 03:50:54 PM
I have the MC Enterprises case guards and they look great (at least on a model with the black frame).  You would have great difficulty fitting them to a faired bike without serious fairing modification.

They look like they'd do an excellent job protecting the engine and crankcase, however I doubt they'd do anything to protect your new zorst - wrong end of the bike!
Title: Re: which frame sliders?
Post by: lnb001 on March 06, 2008, 04:24:05 PM
Can I use frame sliders made for a Gixxer?  With frame sliders do you basically get what you pay for?  Thanks.

-Lucas
Title: Re: which frame sliders?
Post by: ben2go on March 06, 2008, 05:05:28 PM
Quote from: lnb001 on March 06, 2008, 04:24:05 PM
Can I use frame sliders made for a Gixxer?  With frame sliders do you basically get what you pay for?  Thanks.

-Lucas


When you install frame sliders you have to replace the engine mount bolt with a longer one.GSXR's won't work.
Title: Re: which frame sliders?
Post by: bigbutt on March 06, 2008, 08:31:24 PM
R&G makes frame sliders for our bikes- you'll have to cut a hole in the fairing. They are easy to install

(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m171/bigbutt420/DSCN0463.jpg)
Title: Re: which frame sliders?
Post by: philward on March 06, 2008, 08:54:11 PM
Quote from: lnb001 on March 06, 2008, 03:10:39 PM
I was considering frame sliders...  my main concern is protecting the exhaust.  What do you guys think?


I think it needs to be said that if your primary concern is protecting your new exhaust from a crash, it is very unlikely that engine-mounted frame sliders or caseguards will do anything to help.  Unless you have something solid sticking out further than the exhaust at the tail it is inevitable that the exhaust is going to contact the ground.

They will, however, do a great job of protecting your engine and crankcase - damage to which is likely to eclipse any cost to your exhaust.  :thumb:
Title: Re: which frame sliders?
Post by: ben2go on March 06, 2008, 09:45:20 PM
Quote from: bigbutt on March 06, 2008, 08:31:24 PM
R&G makes frame sliders for our bikes- you'll have to cut a hole in the fairing. They are easy to install





Will you post a link to the R&G frame sliders?Thanks.





Title: Re: which frame sliders?
Post by: Jay_wolf on March 06, 2008, 10:37:38 PM
http://www.rg-racing.com/browseBike/Suzuki/GS500_FullyFaired/All_Years.aspx

A uk based company , handy for me :P . i may get a pair myself
Title: Re: which frame sliders?
Post by: ben2go on March 06, 2008, 10:40:06 PM
Thanks Jay.I have a targa chin spoiler and don't wanna cut it up to install case gaurds.
Title: Re: which frame sliders?
Post by: Mango Daddy on May 16, 2008, 06:09:06 PM
I am in Ajax, Ontario and I was just wondering where you got the R and G frame sliders? Did you get them from the UK site or were you able to get them in a bike shop or some other online store.

Title: Re: which frame sliders?
Post by: Jay_wolf on May 16, 2008, 06:43:06 PM
The companys in the uk yea , well if there is a huge demand for them i could maybe ask if they would do a dozen sets cheaper and i could post to the us , all you would pay is shipping and for the sliders , i wouldnt make any money but i would get a set for cheaper outta it  :thumb:
Title: Re: which frame sliders?
Post by: ben2go on May 16, 2008, 07:04:22 PM
Quote from: Jay_wolf on May 16, 2008, 06:43:06 PM
The companys in the uk yea , well if there is a huge demand for them i could maybe ask if they would do a dozen sets cheaper and i could post to the us , all you would pay is shipping and for the sliders , i wouldnt make any money but i would get a set for cheaper outta it  :thumb:

I checked into those.They have US dealers but none of them sell the frame sliders.I may try to buy direct.There like $100US+ shipping.
Title: Re: which frame sliders?
Post by: Jay_wolf on May 16, 2008, 07:11:49 PM
i might be able 2 get something done about that , ill email them in the morning
Title: Re: which frame sliders?
Post by: Teek on May 17, 2008, 05:41:01 PM
I might be in, I think I need to take my case guards off to fit the chin fairing.
Title: Re: which frame sliders?
Post by: ben2go on May 17, 2008, 05:44:33 PM
Quote from: Teek on May 17, 2008, 05:41:01 PM
I might be in, I think I need to take my case guards off to fit the chin fairing.

Yes you will.Or basicily cut all of the fairing away which defeats the purpose of having the fairing.
Title: Re: which frame sliders?
Post by: Yev on August 03, 2008, 08:43:24 PM
Quote from: Jay_wolf on May 16, 2008, 07:11:49 PM
i might be able 2 get something done about that , ill email them in the morning
Any updates on this?? I would like some frame sliders as well..
Title: Re: which frame sliders?
Post by: videosilva on August 03, 2008, 10:19:18 PM
Also interested in Frame slider's here.
Title: Re: which frame sliders?
Post by: ben2go on August 04, 2008, 02:51:46 PM
The link JayWolf posted is still valid.I can't find a dealer that has them state side.Ordering from the UK will be around $150.More than I can spare at this time.
Title: Re: which frame sliders?
Post by: videosilva on August 04, 2008, 04:13:23 PM
What ? $150.00 for 2 pieces of plastic ?

We use to have those on our Roller Skates when we were kids they were called stoppers back then and cost a couple of dollars each.
Title: Re: which frame sliders?
Post by: DoD#i on August 04, 2008, 05:03:27 PM
There's also the extra-long engine mounting bolts they are mounted on - and they are a bit different material - but I still basically agree that the price is kinda high for what they are.
Title: Re: which frame sliders?
Post by: b_long_1 on August 04, 2008, 11:41:23 PM
Quote from: videosilva on August 04, 2008, 04:13:23 PM
What ? $150.00 for 2 pieces of plastic ?

We use to have those on our Roller Skates when we were kids they were called stoppers back then and cost a couple of dollars each.

how about doing a mod with said stoppers and some longer bolts then adding to wiki?
Title: Re: which frame sliders?
Post by: ambisinister on August 05, 2008, 08:06:14 AM
If enough people want them ,I might be able to get material and make sliders in my shop for less money. Anybody interested?
Title: Re: which frame sliders?
Post by: Yev on August 05, 2008, 08:08:11 AM
Quote from: ambisinister on August 05, 2008, 08:06:14 AM
If enough people want them ,I might be able to get material and make sliders in my shop for less money. Anybody interested?
Count me in!
Title: Re: which frame sliders?
Post by: ambisinister on August 05, 2008, 08:13:55 AM
Tha :thumb:t's one
Title: Re: which frame sliders?
Post by: Mdow on August 05, 2008, 08:21:49 AM
Quote from: ambisinister on August 05, 2008, 08:06:14 AM
If enough people want them ,I might be able to get material and make sliders in my shop for less money. Anybody interested?

ya if they look clean
Title: Re: which frame sliders?
Post by: ambisinister on August 05, 2008, 08:26:27 AM
I can make them out of whatever material anyone wants them in. I have a machine shop so I won't be making them with a hacksaw and file
Title: Re: which frame sliders?
Post by: Yev on August 05, 2008, 08:29:30 AM
Quote from: ambisinister on August 05, 2008, 08:26:27 AM
I can make them out of whatever material anyone wants them in. I have a machine shop so I won't be making them with a hacksaw and file
hahaha.. Can you make something similar to the R&G ones?
http://www.rg-racing.com/browseBike/Suzuki/GS500_FullyFaired/All_Years/CP0158BL.aspx
Title: Re: which frame sliders?
Post by: rahlo1 on August 05, 2008, 08:38:08 AM
some of us use roller skating wheels just for the look because sliders at certain speeds dont work anyway. so the question is do you want it for just the look or for the protection which is minimal to say the least
Title: Re: which frame sliders?
Post by: ambisinister on August 05, 2008, 08:50:22 AM
I don't see why not. Can anybody give me dimensions? Heighth, diameter, hole size?
Title: Re: which frame sliders?
Post by: ambisinister on August 05, 2008, 08:51:24 AM
Why do sliders not work at certai speeds? Material not hold up?
Title: Re: which frame sliders?
Post by: rahlo1 on August 05, 2008, 09:25:38 AM
Sliders will most likely bend if they hit the ground a certain way, and to be honest, different companies make their frame sliders using different strength bolts. Some can withstand a higher force (T-rex Frame sliders) than others (Shogun) and will or will not bend. What I think is that if your frame slider does not bend than it will be your engine mount/frame that does when the force is great enough. The stronger the bolt in the sliders, the more likely you are to keep everything in tact though and possibly bend the frame, it just depends on how much force is put on the slider and how you fall.
Title: Re: which frame sliders?
Post by: ben2go on August 05, 2008, 03:06:21 PM
The main problem with sliders are the bolts.Could probably use any slider as long as the right bolts are used.