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Title: drinks and cigars
Post by: jserio on April 25, 2008, 08:54:50 PM
okay, my father is a cigar afficianado. i've picked it up sparingly. i enjoy a nice cigar on occassion. i also like to have a good drink on occassion as well. (someting other than beer.) now, i've been told that you can mix the two and quite well at that. the trick is finding the right combination. now, i've not got tons of money so i can't really afford to just go to the liqour store and buy a pint of every whiskey, scotch, bourbon and brandy they've got and try em with my cigars. the cigars i order are from Thompson Cigar Company. My father swears by Thompson's. i don't spend a lot, i generally use their "house brand." (the cheaper ones, but still a good smoke.) my father sadly doesn't enjoy any liqour so he can't help me figure this out. anyone else enjoy a nice smoke and drink and can help me out?
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on April 25, 2008, 09:30:20 PM
go into canada ( youre not far from it) pick up a few cubans  :icon_twisted:, nothing like a decent bourbon on the rocks, a front porch, after a good rode, doing this and firing up a nice stogie  :bowdown: :bowdown:
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: jserio on April 25, 2008, 09:32:31 PM
i've been told that bourbon makes a nice on the rocks drink. my f%$king problem is which brand? i mean, damn. they got shelves, and more shelves.  :laugh:
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on April 25, 2008, 09:33:35 PM
jim beam?
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: jserio on April 25, 2008, 09:36:17 PM
i saw an ad for Johnny Walker on television earler. black label i think.  :dunno_white:
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: darb85 on April 25, 2008, 10:27:13 PM
Torano Brand!  Stay away from Thompsons.  they arent as good as you think.

www.clubstogie.com.  Let the learning commence! :D
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: jserio on April 25, 2008, 10:32:48 PM
i like the Thompsons allright. i've not tried any others but i may. at this point i'm in search of a good drink to go with it.  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: darb85 on April 25, 2008, 11:28:28 PM
check out that forum above.  many threads on the subject.  everything from Coke to Coffee to Port to Wine, Scotch,
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: Jay_wolf on April 26, 2008, 04:59:25 AM
Jonny walker Red Label  :thumb:
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: bettingpython on April 26, 2008, 05:18:56 AM
Thompson has a candella wrapper cigar the iguana, excellent value for an inexpensive cigar. I was smoking the Iguana Mama's in the Candella very smooth little cigar it's a 5" x42.

Alright damn I was gonna get you a link for them and it looks like they moved the iguana's to outlet. No more iguana's. I recently quit smoking, I haven't had to buy cigars in over a year with all the cigars I had on hand . Any way those were my daily smokers when I was buying them they were around 85cents a stick when I bought em.

Damn their prices have gone up like everything elses the emprasario corona's with the conneticut wrapper on the bottom of this page.
http://www.thompsoncigar.com/default.aspx?page=product&sender=shopbybrand&uid=1064
Used to be a really damn good deal on a daily smoke, used to get 3 bundles for $30 a few years ago at that price it was great for a daily smoke.

If your looking for fine cigars you should look elsewhere, the prices on thompsons premiums really arent all that good, I can go to a local shop and not pay much more and hand pick what I want. Well I could I don't know what prices are like anymore.
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: bettingpython on April 26, 2008, 05:26:11 AM
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on April 25, 2008, 09:33:35 PM
jim beam?

Ackkkkkk

Wellers 107 the special reserve stuff not muchmore price wise but better flavor for rocks.

You like scotch, You don't have to get really expensive to enjoy single malt's but it'll cost you more thab johnny walker.

I enjoy Glenlivet or Glenfiddich, I used to drink Oban but had a hard time finding it for a long time, I have 1/2 a bottle of 14yr old Oban in the cabinet that I bought 15years ago.
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on April 26, 2008, 12:13:39 PM
Quote from: bettingpython on April 26, 2008, 05:26:11 AM
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on April 25, 2008, 09:33:35 PM
jim beam?

Ackkkkkk

Wellers 107 the special reserve stuff not muchmore price wise but better flavor for rocks.

You like scotch, You don't have to get really expensive to enjoy single malt's but it'll cost you more thab johnny walker.

I enjoy Glenlivet or Glenfiddich, I used to drink Oban but had a hard time finding it for a long time, I have 1/2 a bottle of 14yr old Oban in the cabinet that I bought 15years ago.
oh i absolutely LOVE the glenfiddich and teh glenlivet, but were talking somewhat of a budget price. trying to suggest the best bang for the buck here. but eventually its like this. drink enough, and taste will not matter  :icon_twisted: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: bettingpython on April 26, 2008, 12:17:02 PM
glenlivet and glenfiddich are budget single malts. You oughta see the expensive blends like usqabach or 21 royal salute.
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on April 26, 2008, 11:05:57 PM
Quote from: bettingpython on April 26, 2008, 12:17:02 PM
glenlivet and glenfiddich are budget single malts. You oughta see the expensive blends like usqabach or 21 royal salute.
oh i know, got some in my liquor cellar. given to me as a gift
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: bettingpython on April 27, 2008, 06:24:17 AM
Guess I better get my ass out to your neck of the woods and help you drink it before you die you damn lib.
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: vulcanphlanx20mm on April 27, 2008, 08:34:23 PM
i get cohibas when i can whether there the ones you get in the states or get from overseas i think the short ones are the best not to long not to short. with a small glass of single malt fiddiche scotch its kinda pricey but i feel its worth it. and the scotch usually comes in a cardboard tube and the bottles green and triangular in shape.
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on April 28, 2008, 04:14:42 AM
Quote from: bettingpython on April 27, 2008, 06:24:17 AM
Guess I better get my ass out to your neck of the woods and help you drink it before you die you damn lib.
saved for fmily get togetehrs, ( or to celebrate mccains win  :laugh: :nono: :flipoff:  :laugh:)
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: The Buddha on April 28, 2008, 09:48:02 AM
Royal Salute 21 (or is it 12 - been so looooooong I forgot ) is freaking awesome ... Its freaking impossible to get in the US ... or atleast I have given up trying.
I also like blue label Johhy walker's. but at that $$ its no bloody way worth the $$, black label is faaaaaar better in terms of value.
Now I dont smoke, so your cigar question is over my head.
Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: bettingpython on April 28, 2008, 10:24:52 AM
Buddah several places here have it, It's 21 btw and it's just a matter of price.
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: The Buddha on April 28, 2008, 12:33:14 PM
Yea 120 bucks for the small bottle and yea its 21 ... right.
BTW I like crown royal for the budget priced whisky ... however its not real scotch anything ... canadian whisky (which is like 87 octane) and flavors (which is like caramel syrup) ... bleeh ... but tastes OK.
Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on April 28, 2008, 11:36:32 PM
right now, im drinking canadin club, ( making cheap whiskey sours) not much else to do. out of vicodin lol
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: vulcanphlanx20mm on April 29, 2008, 03:08:28 PM
hmm i know its kinda off topic but possibly layered shots are pretty good. i used to be a bartender and i learned some pretty neat tricks there. if your interested let me know
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: jserio on April 29, 2008, 08:32:06 PM
well guys, i learned something saturday night. don't skimp on a drink just for the price. the wife and i had lots of stuff to do saturday so by the time we got back into town, it was allready 1030pm and every place that sold liquor was closed. then i thought, hey, walmart sells liquor. i normally buy my beer there so i though i'd check em out on other drinks. found a 750ml bottle of "old dan tucker" for like 7 bucks. holy shaZam! was that a mistake. i've only had 2 shots out of the bottle and i'm seriously thinking of just pouring it down the drain. yuck. lesson learned: wait, and spend the necessary money for a good drink.  :thumb:
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on April 29, 2008, 08:40:55 PM
well after 5 or six shots, it feels liek idk, youre drunk, so finish it, and dnot buy it again  :thumb:
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: bucks1605 on April 29, 2008, 08:49:50 PM
Quote from: jserio on April 29, 2008, 08:32:06 PM
well guys, i learned something saturday night. don't skimp on a drink just for the price. the wife and i had lots of stuff to do saturday so by the time we got back into town, it was allready 1030pm and every place that sold liquor was closed. then i thought, hey, walmart sells liquor. i normally buy my beer there so i though i'd check em out on other drinks. found a 750ml bottle of "old dan tucker" for like 7 bucks. holy shaZam! was that a mistake. i've only had 2 shots out of the bottle and i'm seriously thinking of just pouring it down the drain. yuck. lesson learned: wait, and spend the necessary money for a good drink.  :thumb:

Maybe not a good choice for an adult with refined tastes, but perfect for a poor college student!  :laugh:
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on April 29, 2008, 10:23:15 PM
Quote from: bucks1605 on April 29, 2008, 08:49:50 PM
Quote from: jserio on April 29, 2008, 08:32:06 PM
well guys, i learned something saturday night. don't skimp on a drink just for the price. the wife and i had lots of stuff to do saturday so by the time we got back into town, it was allready 1030pm and every place that sold liquor was closed. then i thought, hey, walmart sells liquor. i normally buy my beer there so i though i'd check em out on other drinks. found a 750ml bottle of "old dan tucker" for like 7 bucks. holy shaZam! was that a mistake. i've only had 2 shots out of the bottle and i'm seriously thinking of just pouring it down the drain. yuck. lesson learned: wait, and spend the necessary money for a good drink.  :thumb:

Maybe not a good choice for an adult with refined tastes, but perfect for a poor college student! with  a fake id  :laugh:
:thumb:
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: frankieG on April 29, 2008, 10:25:31 PM
ha reminds me of the great white wine.  had a picture of a shark on the front and sold for about 3 bucks
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on April 30, 2008, 12:04:09 AM
Hmmmmmm brings up vague memories
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: surf.seppo on April 30, 2008, 06:39:06 PM
Out here in Rhode Island, we have Haxton's liquor. House brand sells 1.75 L handles for about $11. Mate, I get sick just looking at the bottle.

As for cigars and the better stuff: I've found rum blends in well. If you can find it, Angastora's (yeah, the company that makes bitters) makes 1919 and 1824, both excellent whiskey-like rums. Also good are El Dorado from Guyana and Mount ghey Extra Old from Barbados. The latter is readily available stateside. For whiskey lovers, might I recommend the Speyside Aberlour Abbundah (or something like that). It's a good cask-strength (read: 60% alcohol by weight) scotch.

For cigars, I like cuban Romeo et Julietta, although DR also makes them under the same brand (and prolly just as good). Royal Barbados makes ones that are (allegedly) legal stateside, rolled in Barbados and made from Cuban filler. They are great too. Right now, I'm smoking Auroras.

:cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: bucks1605 on April 30, 2008, 06:43:43 PM
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on April 29, 2008, 10:23:15 PM
Quote from: bucks1605 on April 29, 2008, 08:49:50 PM
Quote from: jserio on April 29, 2008, 08:32:06 PM
well guys, i learned something saturday night. don't skimp on a drink just for the price. the wife and i had lots of stuff to do saturday so by the time we got back into town, it was allready 1030pm and every place that sold liquor was closed. then i thought, hey, walmart sells liquor. i normally buy my beer there so i though i'd check em out on other drinks. found a 750ml bottle of "old dan tucker" for like 7 bucks. holy shaZam! was that a mistake. i've only had 2 shots out of the bottle and i'm seriously thinking of just pouring it down the drain. yuck. lesson learned: wait, and spend the necessary money for a good drink.  :thumb:

Maybe not a good choice for an adult with refined tastes, but perfect for a poor college student! with  a fake id  :laugh:
:thumb:

I've got connections...  :laugh:
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: jserio on May 01, 2008, 10:32:10 PM
buck, if ya want it, it's yours buddy. i can't mail alchohol however. but we are a mere 2hrs or so apart.  :thumb:  :laugh:
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: lilbill on May 03, 2008, 03:14:59 PM
I really like Arturo Fuente's Exquisitos cigars.  They're just the right size for me, they have a great taste and best of all they run about $2 each or $75 for 50.  The maduros of these go great with a stout(I know beer) or a tequila on the rocks.
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: spc on May 03, 2008, 03:57:55 PM
Quote from: surf.seppo on April 30, 2008, 06:39:06 PM
Royal Barbados makes ones that are (allegedly) legal stateside, rolled in Barbados and made from Cuban filler. They are great too. Right now, I'm smoking Auroras.


If the filler is grown in Cuba, they are not legal for import or trade in the US.  If the filler is grown outside of Cuba but from Cuban seeds however, they are legal.
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: spc on May 03, 2008, 07:08:43 PM
I tried an AVO XO earlier tonight at the cigar shop owners suggestion...........just excellent and only $9.  I went back, picked another up and grabbed two CAO's, a Maduro and a Gold.
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on May 03, 2008, 10:43:38 PM
Quote from: spcterry on May 03, 2008, 03:57:55 PM
Quote from: surf.seppo on April 30, 2008, 06:39:06 PM
Royal Barbados makes ones that are (allegedly) legal stateside, rolled in Barbados and made from Cuban filler. They are great too. Right now, I'm smoking Auroras.


If the filler is grown in Cuba, they are not legal for import or trade in the US.  If the filler is grown outside of Cuba but from Cuban seeds however, they are legal.
ehhh terry not many here care ;)
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: spc on May 03, 2008, 10:57:23 PM
They are 'legal' in the US because the Treasury can't technically prove that cuban-grown tobacco is used.  Take from that fact what you will, it is your life, I'll stray away from treading on thin ice as I have a bit more to lose than some when it comes to pissing off GVT agencies.
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on May 03, 2008, 11:50:58 PM
 :dunno_white: :thumb:
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: spc on May 06, 2008, 09:58:56 PM
Just finished the CAO Maduro with a nice chilled glass of Turi Vodka.   Damn Fine, just Damn Fine
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on May 06, 2008, 10:02:56 PM
a fine smoke, inded, but tbh id rather have a cuban. and ive never seen anyone get fined or whatnot for a couple of cigars more, yes, but thats just stupidity
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: jserio on May 06, 2008, 10:06:18 PM
last time i bought cigars i got a deal from thompsons. i got like 40 or so lil smokes. little choppers i think they call em. anyways. i got 40 of them, a hat and a zippo for like $35 or $40 bucks. not a terrible smoke. but i'm sure i can find better.  :thumb: i've not had many types/brands of cigars but i prefir the smaller gauges.  :dunno_white:
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on May 06, 2008, 10:09:44 PM
aye. nothing beats a GOOD smoke, a good drink, and a front porch swing :thumb:
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: jserio on May 06, 2008, 10:15:12 PM
don't have a porch swing....but i do loung in my cowboys folding chair thingy....got a cup holder n everything.... :laugh:
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on May 06, 2008, 10:22:36 PM
well a comfy chair will suffice., speaking of which, pending tomorrows test, my happy a$$ is getting drunk
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: spc on May 06, 2008, 10:27:31 PM
I think I'm going to go back to the store tomorrow and grab a few AVO XO's.  That was a very fine smoke, smooth medium flavor.  I sit out on my balcony and listen to the waves crash in and the frogs in the pond croaking.
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on May 06, 2008, 10:36:50 PM
just get a humidor. ( i built one 8x10ft) ( its mostly empty, until i get some cubanos to start the collection off)
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: mjn12 on May 07, 2008, 01:47:10 PM
As for liquor - Glenlivet 15 year french oak reserve. It was my first bottle of single malt and its may favorite.  I'm really trying to find a bottle of dalmore cigar malt.  Its apparently discontinued but some online sellers have if if you can have liquor shipped to you (not so in most states) or if you can find a dusty bottle sitting on a shelf somewhere.

Cigars - I'm not a huge aficionado here.  I enjoy just about everything. I've had a few cubans when I was in mexico (you have to look long and hard for a reputable seller down there).  If I'm just grabbing something to smoke on a night of heavy drinking I usually go for drew estates either acids or naturals.  They're not exactly flavored in the way cheap/awful swishers or black and milds are - I think they use some kind of herbal nonsense or something but they have distinctive tastes and are generally sweet on the lips. Definately an interesting deviation from normal smokes.
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on May 07, 2008, 09:59:05 PM
heh im right in teh middle, im 10 hours drive frm windosr ontario, so i can always drive and get em, i always get one cheaper one to declare , and hide the rest. hasnt failed me yet, ( and this is post 9/11)  O0 :thumb:
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: spc on May 19, 2008, 07:40:31 PM
OK, time for a nice Sam Adams Hefe and an AVO XO Intermezzo (seriously, one of the best smokes you can buy without dropping crazy cash or committing a crime)
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: spc on May 23, 2008, 09:39:36 PM
Oh My Dear God:
Joya de Nicaragua- Antona
The guy warned me it was a strong bastard.  I had to sit down about 1/3 the way through and at 2/3's I was laying down staring blankly at the sky.  I can't believe these things are legal.
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: spc on May 23, 2008, 09:43:44 PM
here's a review from cigar.com

"to enjoy this cigar ther are certan rules to follow...1 eat a full meal 2 sit down, dont get up if you dont have to 3 do not operate heavy equipment for 3-4 hours 4 THE MOST IMPORTANT... dont hot stick it go slow."
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on May 23, 2008, 10:43:11 PM
yes!!! lol some damned kniving friends of mine gave me one to smoke WITHOUT telling me of the "effects" me likey tho. i still like cubans tho. if i have to ill drive to canada and get some more. OR make it an excuse to take a long ride roughly 650 miles each way :thumb:
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: frankieG on May 25, 2008, 04:07:07 PM
is this a cigar you guys are talking about?  i am curious about if it is and the effects. i did not think tobacco could do that
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: Chokstick on May 25, 2008, 04:25:23 PM
I personally like Romeo y Julieta cigar (cuban).  Best way to get cuban is obviously from cuba (if you can get there).  Then find a friendly local and buy them black market.  You'll save over 50% and they are made with the same leaf as the legal stuff.  They are cheaper either because buddy swiped them from the factory or they were rejects (too tightly wound).  A note of warning: if you pursue this route, its helps to know a little about cigars so that you don't get riped off and end up smoking banana leaves 

As for drink...well, I've found the best pairing is a nice cognac.  But you've got to shell out some bucks for a good one.  I also enjoy a nice single malt scotch.  Glenlivich.  MacCallan 10yr is a more affordable single malt.
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: spc on May 25, 2008, 06:15:00 PM
Frankie, yes it is a cigar and pretty readily available. It is entirely a Nicaraguan product and has cherry tree bark along with a few other ingredients. I highly reccomend one as long as your not going anywhere for a while.
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on May 25, 2008, 06:18:31 PM
indeed  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: id hate to see the nicotine levels and whatnot in that beast :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: frankieG on May 25, 2008, 06:34:44 PM
yipes
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on May 25, 2008, 06:42:14 PM
go get you one, smoke it, drink something, then post something. you shall see   :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: spc on May 25, 2008, 07:53:06 PM
I didn't follow rule number 4 and I ended up laying down on my porch for about an hour watching the stars because I couldn't sit up.
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: frankieG on May 26, 2008, 11:15:05 AM
ok what is the name of it again
Title: Re: drinks and cigars
Post by: laserred97gt on June 02, 2008, 11:13:29 PM
I have three humi's stocked pretty well.

I like CAO's, Indian Tabac, Victor Sinclair, Fonseca's, Cohibas, RyJ, Don Lino's, and Fuente's mostly.

AS for mixing with spirits, I like Crown, Guiness, Makers Mark, and definitely the Glenlivet.  My tastes for liquor have not gotten much more expensive than that.

The Padron 1926 Serie is an EXCELLENT smoke (Cigar Aficianado's cigar of the year 08), and I highly recommend it.  Not extremely strong, but has tastes I have yet to experience in ANY other cigar.   8)