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Title: DONATE YOUR SHIMS TO A NEW VALVE KIT.
Post by: gmark on May 06, 2008, 08:11:10 PM
So it looks like we lost the east coast valve kit. I went to ebay and picked up a valve tool, a caliper, and I allready have a set of feeler guages from my days of driving around the country in a 1978 VW camper. So If you will send me any shims you have around I'll send the stuff out as a new kit after I do my valves.

PM me for my address if you have shims to donate or add your name to the line for kit. :cheers:
Title: Re: DONATE YOUR SHIMS TO A NEW VALVE KIT.
Post by: lewismug on May 06, 2008, 08:15:24 PM
gmark, read my post under the East Coast valve adjustment kit thread.  If we can all decide what to do with it, then I would be willing to throw tools in the bag.  Along with your valve tool, I think we could have a great kit for the West and East coast.  lemme know.
Title: Re: DONATE YOUR SHIMS TO A NEW VALVE KIT.
Post by: gmark on May 07, 2008, 05:26:25 AM
Sounds great to me. If we can get some shims to go with the tools we are golden.
Title: Re: DONATE YOUR SHIMS TO A NEW VALVE KIT.
Post by: lewismug on May 07, 2008, 06:47:34 AM
I was thinking if there are enough shims in the current east coast kit that we could split them evenly between the two kits while making sure both kits have an even mix of thicker and thinner shims.  I'm going to try and arrange to pay UPS to pick up the kit from him and have it shipped to Tang.
Title: Re: DONATE YOUR SHIMS TO A NEW VALVE KIT.
Post by: desilva on May 07, 2008, 08:46:27 AM
Is there a kit like this going around in the UK? If not then it would be great if we could get one going.
Title: Re: DONATE YOUR SHIMS TO A NEW VALVE KIT.
Post by: ohgood on May 07, 2008, 09:24:09 AM
THIS IS CONTINUED FROM THE "where is kerry's EAST COAST kit?" thread:

Quote from: Teek on May 06, 2008, 11:55:32 PM
There was $10. in it when I sent it out to him, plus I added a new gauge set and my cool new magnet tool!  :cry:

It would cost about $12. without insurance, I insured it for $199.00. That would be about $14.50 Priority Mail.

Dang!  :icon_confused:


I'm thinking maybe forum members should be on for like a 6 month minimum before they get access to a kit anymore, it's a serious responsibility to take care of it and get it sent out in a timely manner. The shims alone were worth $100. I contributed $15. out of pocket to it too. That pisses me off.  :nono:

OK, you're onto something. How about a gstwins PAYPAL ACCOUNT that takes a deposit of say... $100 or so before the kit is shipped, AND the gstwins member has 6 months of legit posts ? IT's WORTH WAY MORE THAN THAT, but it would help weed out the folks that might sit on the kit and not care.

On a side note, we're not just replacing a missing kit. We should also take up donations to REPAY KERRY for his loss. I'm pledging $20 myself NOW.

If I'm way off base with my opinion, let me know. Like I said, we should repay the owner of the kit, get a new one in circulation, and have some kind of way of assuring the kit would be kept moving.

Besides, I'm going to need it again soon.... ;)

Title: Re: DONATE YOUR SHIMS TO A NEW VALVE KIT.
Post by: lewismug on May 07, 2008, 10:05:15 AM
The paypal account thing is a great idea, but paypal will take some of that $100.00 on both ends of the transaction.  You wind up with less $ than you began with.  Say I wanted the kit and sent $100.00 to the account.  Paypal would take a little off the top of that $ and deposit the rest in the account.  Then, when it came time to send the deposit back to me, they would take a little more off of that amount and I would end up with less than $100.00 back in my account.  I'm a responsible person and would never treat the kit or any of you with the amount of disrespect that has been shown lately, but I may not have $100.00 to throw around either.  Maybe I should have extra $$ to send off for the kit like others may have, but I don't.  Two kids, a wife, and a new house kind of cuts into other things.  And besides, I've only been on here for 2 going on 3 months.  I would have to wait another 3 months before I could even get in line for the kit......and we just can't have that! O0 It's going to take some serious thought to figure out the best route here I think.  It's hard to judge a persons character when you've never met them face to face.
Title: Re: DONATE YOUR SHIMS TO A NEW VALVE KIT.
Post by: ohgood on May 07, 2008, 01:41:16 PM
Quote from: lewismug on May 07, 2008, 10:05:15 AM
The paypal account thing is a great idea, but paypal will take some of that $100.00 on both ends of the transaction.  You wind up with less $ than you began with.  Say I wanted the kit and sent $100.00 to the account.  Paypal would take a little off the top of that $ and deposit the rest in the account.  Then, when it came time to send the deposit back to me, they would take a little more off of that amount and I would end up with less than $100.00 back in my account.  I'm a responsible person and would never treat the kit or any of you with the amount of disrespect that has been shown lately, but I may not have $100.00 to throw around either.  Maybe I should have extra $$ to send off for the kit like others may have, but I don't.  Two kids, a wife, and a new house kind of cuts into other things.  And besides, I've only been on here for 2 going on 3 months.  I would have to wait another 3 months before I could even get in line for the kit......and we just can't have that! O0 It's going to take some serious thought to figure out the best route here I think.  It's hard to judge a persons character when you've never met them face to face.

Good points ! A deposit of some sort, ($100 was just a round figure), and -some- time and posts on the forum should be enough. Ya, the paypal thing is an idea, but I don't know how much they charge per transaction. I'm always on the -paying- end of paypal, and haven't really paid attention to the receiving end to tell the truth.

It upset me when I read the comments by the last user of the kit. If I recall correctly, it cost $23 or so for me to ship it to the next person, last time I used it. That's not much.

ImportBabe (or was it Teek) said there was a $10 bill in the kit ? Did I miss something , and was I supposed to forward some cash when I was done with it ? Sorry if I did, I'll forward some cash to whoever was next after me. :)


Title: Re: DONATE YOUR SHIMS TO A NEW VALVE KIT.
Post by: gmark on May 07, 2008, 03:48:29 PM
The $10.00 was to go to a new west coast kit, but it looks like it ended up getting paintballs or some such crap. I offered to have the kid send the kit to me COD. Anyway I have most of the stuff now thanks to ebay and an old vw bus i used to own. I noticed a shim kit for $70 but I don't have the money to spend. The little tool and the caliper ran me right at $40. I was hoping that some folks would have shims but if not I'll send out my tools and old shims as a kit when I am done.
Title: Re: DONATE YOUR SHIMS TO A NEW VALVE KIT.
Post by: lewismug on May 07, 2008, 04:36:28 PM
gmark, no need to throw your almost completed kit out there just yet.  Lets wait a day or so and see what happens with the paintball guy.  Maybe he will man up and send the kit on.  The kit does go to Tang, just in case you do send it out suzukimx4898 or whatever.
Title: Re: DONATE YOUR SHIMS TO A NEW VALVE KIT.
Post by: ATLRIDER on May 07, 2008, 07:04:14 PM
Hey guys,

I'm pretty new around here but I think it's a good idea to go with the Paypal deal.  From my experience, if you have a personal account there's no charges to send money.  Not sure about receiving.  Anyway, I'd be willing to earn my right by waiting 6 months if necessary.

Title: Re: DONATE YOUR SHIMS TO A NEW VALVE KIT.
Post by: lewismug on May 07, 2008, 07:18:36 PM
Here's a list of the various fees.

https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_display-fees-outside (https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_display-fees-outside)

It looks like as long as the $$ is already in your paypal account and you send from one paypal account to another, then there is no fee to send or receive!  So, this may be a viable solution.  I'd be all for this method of making sure people stay honest.  Now, who would see over the account and be responsible for transferring funds?  I think a vote may be in order.  Good thinkin Kyle!  :thumb:
Title: Re: DONATE YOUR SHIMS TO A NEW VALVE KIT.
Post by: Eric_in_OR on May 08, 2008, 10:40:45 AM
Count me in, I've been putting off checking / adjusting my valves because I didn't want to buy all the stuff. It's certainly worth a $100 deposit, plus shipping and some sort of replacement fee. Say, I deposit $110 into the account when I'm next on the list, it gets shipped to me, I use it and ship it on to the next person (who has also placed a deposit), that person notifies the Kit Administrator, and I recieve $100 back. Someone reliable and trustworthy want to volunteer?
Title: Re: DONATE YOUR SHIMS TO A NEW VALVE KIT.
Post by: gmark on May 08, 2008, 02:52:52 PM
better yet if the kit ends up being a bunch of my tools am I exempt form the deposit?
Title: Re: DONATE YOUR SHIMS TO A NEW VALVE KIT.
Post by: lewismug on May 08, 2008, 04:37:23 PM
I say that anyone not here for at least three months and has less than 100 posts have to pay the deposit.  Or maybe set up a "board" to decide who does and doesn't have to put up a deposit.  Not necessarily moderators, but a mixture of guys from the forum.  I would like to think that if I added tools in for the kit then there would be no deposit for me, so I wouldn't feel right by you having to do the deposit thing gmark.  I really wish more people would chime in with their thoughts about where this is headed.  Maybe someone should put a post in the GD area explaining the thoughts we have been throwing around and have a poll as well for people to vote.  Whaddya think?
Title: Re: DONATE YOUR SHIMS TO A NEW VALVE KIT.
Post by: gmark on May 08, 2008, 06:53:59 PM
Sounds good to me. I like the idea of at least one kit being out there.
Title: Re: DONATE YOUR SHIMS TO A NEW VALVE KIT.
Post by: jiggersplat on June 20, 2008, 06:00:46 AM
i'll poke around and see what shims i have.

as for paypal, they take about 2-4 percent depending on the type of account and the source of the funds.  HOWEVER, you can refund a transaction with no fee, but the limit is like 30 days i think.
Title: Re: DONATE YOUR SHIMS TO A NEW VALVE KIT.
Post by: starshooter10 on July 05, 2008, 12:36:50 AM
i'll donate extra shims if i have em..

though i dont really like the deposit idea..

im not gonna snag the set but sheesh im broke as is... thus the whole kit right? we dont want to blow $XXX on tools we wont use that often =-P

im not pushing 6 months.. and i just finally reached double digit on the posts...

though i am a post whore on several other boards =-O


oh well... maybe i'll have my buddy (who may be getting a GS) put up the deposit... as he'll have me adjust HIS valves too   :flipoff:
Title: Re: DONATE YOUR SHIMS TO A NEW VALVE KIT.
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on July 05, 2008, 12:44:17 AM
well if there is to be a deposit, then i think its fair that everyone has to pay it. 
Title: Re: DONATE YOUR SHIMS TO A NEW VALVE KIT.
Post by: gmark on July 09, 2008, 08:59:40 AM
I don't think a deposit is needed. I was trying to get a new kit started when the other kits seemed to be lost. now that they are back I think we should just drop shims and such into the kits that are allready in use.
Title: Re: DONATE YOUR SHIMS TO A NEW VALVE KIT.
Post by: oracleofmist on February 19, 2009, 08:41:33 AM
I'm coming up on finally getting my new piston rings broken in and I'll be checking my valve clearances in this upcoming week so I will have plenty of shims I could donate as well. Stupid burnt valve :(
Title: Re: DONATE YOUR SHIMS TO A NEW VALVE KIT.
Post by: ohgood on April 19, 2009, 08:34:56 AM
OK, I've ordered my own valve shim tool (2 of em), but will likely need a few shims on my next check / adjustment. With the east coast kit lost again... pffffft.

So, we still need SUZUKI SHIMS as the calipers, shims (for checking) and valve spring compressor are accounted for here on this thread.

I'll donate one valve spring tool, on the condition there is some kind of a check and balance that the kit will continue to circulate. Paypal deposit, whatever. I don't care. I just want to be able to put my name on a list for the valuable (like gold apparently) valve shims.

*bump*
Title: Re: DONATE YOUR SHIMS TO A NEW VALVE KIT.
Post by: ohgood on April 23, 2009, 04:37:39 PM
OK, who has shims ? (the valve tool arrived today)

I'm ready to put two kits together, one for gstwins circulation and one for myself.

Get crackin !
Title: Re: DONATE YOUR SHIMS TO A NEW VALVE KIT.
Post by: groff22 on June 01, 2009, 01:32:05 PM
Hi Gang,

Does anyone know if there's still a valve kit kicking around?

Cheers,
J

Edit: Never mind I found the right thread... right at the top of the page :icon_rolleyes:.
Title: Re: DONATE YOUR SHIMS TO A NEW VALVE KIT.
Post by: intergalactic on June 12, 2009, 07:46:51 PM
So I need to do valves.

A- I assume there is no kit.

B- Where do I buy shims and the tool. $11 shims! Yikes!

Title: Re: DONATE YOUR SHIMS TO A NEW VALVE KIT.
Post by: Skeets on July 20, 2009, 08:42:57 AM
I don't know how old this thread is but the paypal idea will fail as anyone can reverse payments so easily a caveman could do it.
Title: Re: DONATE YOUR SHIMS TO A NEW VALVE KIT.
Post by: CentralCoaster on July 21, 2009, 03:38:33 PM
That's pretty disappointing this small forum can't ship a kit around without it getting stolen.

I'm impatient so I'm just going to do the valves now, buy the sizes I think I need and then cross my fingers.

These guys are $7 each:

http://www.crc2onlinecatalog.com/valve_shims.htm

Or you can buy in bulk, 5 of one size for $25

http://www.procycle.us/hotcams/shim_refills.htm

They also have a set with 2 of each size, but it skips every other size.  18 total for $110




I called my local Suzuki parts department and the asswipe on the phone didn't even know what a valve shim was.  He thought it was part of the shifter.  And they wanted $12.95 each, want me to show up in person and pay, and then come back 3-4 business days later to pick them up.  Uhh yeah dude.
Title: Re: DONATE YOUR SHIMS TO A NEW VALVE KIT.
Post by: cyrusyn on August 24, 2009, 01:17:33 PM
Just added 255 and 265 to Kerry's West coast package.
Thank you guys!
Title: Re: DONATE YOUR SHIMS TO A NEW VALVE KIT.
Post by: Goat_Tyrant on September 08, 2009, 05:01:37 PM
whats the possibility of getting the valve kit on the east coast? I'm in fort wayne indiana. I am in fort wayne indiana and seriously need some help.
I will gladly donate my used shims.
Let me know, Thanks.

Jeff
Title: Re: DONATE YOUR SHIMS TO A NEW VALVE KIT.
Post by: nazgulnarsil on March 30, 2010, 10:30:09 PM
I have two 2.60's, is there someone I can ship them to so they can be tossed in the kit?  I'd rather see them go to use.
Title: Re: DONATE YOUR SHIMS TO A NEW VALVE KIT.
Post by: Paulcet on March 31, 2010, 11:03:16 AM
Quote from: Goat_Tyrant on September 08, 2009, 05:01:37 PM
whats the possibility of getting the valve kit on the east coast? I'm in fort wayne indiana. I am in fort wayne indiana and seriously need some help.
I will gladly donate my used shims.
Let me know, Thanks.

Jeff

The east coast kit is dead. 

Go ahead and 'friend' Eric Ryan Wiltse on Facebook.  Put "Mafia Wars" in the message.  Then bug him about sending the kit out.  Hell, I'd pay for a UPS call tag so it wouldn't cost him anything.

You might be able to get the west coast kit (I know Elementguy was able to get it).  As for a new kit, I think it won't happen since we haven't found a good way to make it work.
Title: Re: DONATE YOUR SHIMS TO A NEW VALVE KIT.
Post by: Nakedbusa on April 24, 2010, 03:46:01 PM
Im new to the board but i can donate a bunch of shims to the kit,

vincel@mindspring.com
Title: Re: DONATE YOUR SHIMS TO A NEW VALVE KIT.
Post by: ghostgs1 on May 30, 2010, 01:37:00 PM
Hello folks,  I have a thread on the for sale section that gives the details of the GS Resources Shim Club.  It may be something you would be interested in.  Send me a message if interested.  Ray   
Title: Re: DONATE YOUR SHIMS TO A NEW VALVE KIT.
Post by: Foximus on June 09, 2010, 01:34:05 AM
I just bought back my old GS, and I'll be needing to reshim the valves.   Anyone news on a valve kit?   Whats needed to be donated, and if anyone can ship me one to florida sometime in the future?

Thanks guys.
Title: Re: DONATE YOUR SHIMS TO A NEW VALVE KIT.
Post by: cboling on June 22, 2010, 05:38:19 PM
EDIT: Copied to the East Coast Kit Thread. Mis=posted.

Hello All. A little while back, I offered up the idea to do a sort of "pay as needed" shim kit. The thought being that I would offer my kit once I was done using it and forward it on. The cost to get the kit would be some sort of nominal fee. Not a rental but basically, you are buying the entire kit for really cheap. (Including a small selection of shims.) Because I am selling my bike, I am looking to put it all together with a few shims that I have. (Maybe 1/2 dozen.) I am sure I have the same shims as most everyone but it might be that I have the size you need. So, by Friday, I will put together the kit for the east coast and the first person that offers up the starting amount to get the kit, will have it within 3 days. (USPS Flat Rate Box.) There may be a couple of items / tools that you will have to source separately but all in all, it will get you started.

I will say this. The tool that I have is not that great but might get you through the swap out. It is a softer metal than I would think is needed and the left edge is a little rounded but should do the trick.

I will post up the cost for you to get the kit and once you are finished, you should ask for the same amount. you will also need to add your shims to the kit to keep it going. If everyone is straight up and honest, it should work out fine. Otherwise, you simply paid a little to get a kit. (No stealing involved.)

Let me know any opinions. I will have it ready by Friday to send out.

Chris B.
Title: Re: DONATE YOUR SHIMS TO A NEW VALVE KIT.
Post by: Mart3y on April 12, 2011, 07:50:51 PM
This is the first time i've looked at this thread, but the kits sound like a great idea for everyone that doesnt have access to tools at home. With the amount of users from the states, it would be worthwhile to have them circulating  :)

The deposit sounds like a good way to atleast give some peace of mind that the kit will keep moving, and whats a couple dollars to get access to tools you would otherwise have to buy for a much larger amount of money?

I'm from Aus, so I won't have access to the kits, but i've got everything i need at home anyway, so that's not an issue. Just thought i'd offer my 2 cents  :thumb:
Title: Re: DONATE YOUR SHIMS TO A NEW VALVE KIT.
Post by: Mart3y on April 12, 2011, 07:55:00 PM
oh and by 'couple of dollars', i was referring to the money paypal takes
Title: Re: DONATE YOUR SHIMS TO A NEW VALVE KIT.
Post by: dsmgs500 on July 29, 2011, 08:14:45 AM
FYI

If you submit money by the "gift" Designation, paypal doesn't take a cut. Conversely, you can refund it, and it doesn't take a cut.
Title: Re: DONATE YOUR SHIMS TO A NEW VALVE KIT.
Post by: john on February 01, 2013, 11:41:59 PM
I think this can be unstickied too.