I see there is what appears to be three allen wrench screws holding the silver protector things that are right behind the foot pegs. But I can't get them to turn to save my life. It is counter clockwise right? Which size allen wrench is it. I have a set but one seems a wee bit too big and the other a wee bit too small. I hope they are not stripped.
Mary
Yes, counter clock wise. And you need to use a metric allen wrench, not a standard one. The right, "size" is the one that fits :thumb:
Good luck, Bob!
Mary, Is that a heat guard? I thought it was to stop you from kicking the rear brake reservoir! And yes, counter-clockwise, and they're metric, like all the hardware on your bike.
I think that is what it is. If it were a brake reservoir would you need one on both sides? I thought I saw it called that somewhere.
I just can't get the screws to move ARGH! These times I wish I were a guy with the big muscles and all!
Mary
If you need more torque just put a pipe on the end. :D
Quote from: ke7syv on April 01, 2009, 01:21:16 AM
If you need more torque just put a pipe on the end. :D
Yup the cheater bar 8)
The gaurd on your right is to keep you from kicking the brake res. and the one on the left is to "help" keeping you from running your foot through the chain and sproket, either way I'd leave them both unless you are gonna replace them with something else.
Use some of this:
(http://www.ezgrip.net/pblasterb.jpg)
On my bikes it's a 4mm allen wrench or allen socket. If it's really stuck using and impact driver may help get them out easier. Careful not to strip out head.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impact_driver
blue lock tight is not your friend.
heat is
probably gunna have to drill out and re-tap them
if you screw up the allen head
Why are you taking them off?
Hi RG, glad you still stop by once in a while
Quote from: werase643 on April 01, 2009, 07:55:11 AM
blue lock tight is not your friend.
heat is
probably gunna have to drill out and re-tap them
if you screw up the allen head
Blue locktite isn't so bad. Red is the one that will make you cry. I got my project GS for free because someone had used red locktite on the brake rotor bolts instead of blue. The previous owner broke three bolts and stripped two more before he gave me the bike. I used a mill to remove the old bolts and helicoil the wheel...
As for removing bolts held in place with red loctite, a creme brulee torch can be used to heat up the bolt, which softens the loctite.
Quote from: Juan1 on April 01, 2009, 01:22:24 PM
As for removing bolts held in place with red loctite, a creme brulee torch can be used to heat up the bolt, which softens the loctite.
Yeah, assuming the bolt isn't too close to something you'd rather not heat up a lot... On the wheel I had, I was afraid of destroying the bearings, so I just milled the bolts out. Probably took about the same amount of time and the mill did all the work, not my arms...
if your using a regular set of allen wrenches find whatever size box endwrench that will fit the allen size your using and you can use the wrench to give you more leverage to brake them loose thats what i did when i took mine off.
Cool I'll try that in the morning. I'm wanting to do the carbon fiber look on them hoping it would be a simple little job that I could mainly do sitting down. Still under the weather and weak but wanted to do something to the bike! I have a carbon fiber sun burst yin/yang on the tank and the carbon fiber tank pad, carbon fiber gas lid cover. I really like how this stuff is coming out and just wanted to add a little too it.
Another quick :icon_question: How do you guys keep your keys from scratching up the bar? I took a piece of the CF vinyl and wraped it around to keep it scratch free. was also thinking if they made any clear that would help a lot too!
Mary
at my work the guys will weld a t handle to the offending broken bolt/etc. and the weld heat loosens it right up, then they will turn out w/ the T handle. Seen some ungodly broken bolts/taps/etc. turned right out this way.
Quote from: Toogoofy317 on April 01, 2009, 07:09:05 PM
Another quick :icon_question: How do you guys keep your keys from scratching up the bar? I took a piece of the CF vinyl and wraped it around to keep it scratch free. was also thinking if they made any clear that would help a lot too!
Mary
webBikeWorld did a review of some paint protection film which included a piece for the top triple just for the key scratch. http://www.webbikeworld.com/Reviewed-motorcycle-products/SheerMask/
As for me, I took my key off the keyring, since my jacket has a handy key pocket on the sleeve.
Each key on its own ring.
I'm Miss lose it! If I can't have 'em in one spot they walk away! I even had a little spot in my tank pack I attach them too. Nope gone for four days ended up in my GI docs office and I didn't even see him that week! I mean at home I have to put my keys on the special hook otherwise I'm searching all morning.
I need keys with GPS chips in them so I can pull out a gps unit and find them lol!
Thanks for the help!
Mary
Quote from: VSG on April 01, 2009, 05:26:25 AM
Use some of this:
(http://www.ezgrip.net/pblasterb.jpg)
+1
if it won't budge with a regular wrench, allen key, or other device, this is what you use. soak over night, then gently tap on the end of the allen key before trying to turn. rust is a nasty nasty nasty thing.
using a cheater pole will:
1 break it loose
or
2 break something
everytime :D
Then how about one of those quick-disconnect rings you can pop off for the ride and pop back on when you're done?
Can't you do the applique that you're trying to do with the heel guards still on the bike?
You might find it easier to just remove the rearset.
Dang it the one's on the right side just won't budge. I got a stronger guy to do it. I think he stripped one of the heads! They don't look rusted or anything they just don't move. I did the left one and this is how it looks
(http://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr264/Toogoofy317/P1000338.jpg)
Could someone be Really Really awesome and do an outline for me either PM it to me or put it up here so I can trace it out. I really don't want to strip out screws and such just to do this. If you do I'll make you a set and send them to you so all you have to do is stick 'em on! I have plenty of the carbon fiber material!
After I get both sides done if anyone wants some too without the dismantling I'll make you up some too. Thinking $2 wouldn't be too bad. LOL
Roadster: I had the detachable one that's the one's that ended up in a place I was 99% sure I hadn't been too! LOL. I did use the Carbon fiber stuff a couple of months ago to do just that. It blends in quite well!
Mary
Where did you get the carbon material? Is it real carbon? It looks much better than the carbon fiber vinyl I have seen.
I got this role at the motorcycle clinic here in Kissimmee for five bucks. But, you can get it at PepBoys and Autozone. It is called carbon fiber pattern adhesive film and is not vinyl. It holds up really well. So, I'll send you the stuff if you will send me a template of the right guard. PLEAAASE!
Mary
mary not looking at my bike but isnt the right just a mirror of the left? if its not ill go pull it off my bike right now for you.
Nope it is bigger and three bolts. Oh, I ran out last night praying that very same thing no dice LOL!
Mary
give me a few mins mary how do you want me to make you the template?
Ugh Josh08 did a great job of sending me a template but those dang screws! When I slot them and get it out I will try his template again! The fiber didn't form around the screws so ended up with a couple of silver spots and that ruins it!
But, I will keep my end of the deal Josh asked to give his free set of the carbon cut out to someone else. As soon as I get it off and made the offer will be forfilled. So, the first that asks free or Josh's choosing. After that what I said above.
I will get those screws trust me!
Mary
Well, got that stuff OHGOOD recommended. Nothing! Dremmeled in the notch to put in a flat head Nada! How on Earth do you get these things out short of drilling them out. I'm really pissed at these too little bitty screws!
Gonna saturate it again before I go to bed tonight and see if I'm any more lucky tomorrow!
This is right up there with full LED turn signals as far as frustration goes LOL. Maybe I should do a video write up on how to get a screw out if it does come out!
Mary
WELLL THAT WAS FUN!!!!! NOT!
I got it! Finally, two days of soaking in the stuff ohgood recommended. Would go out every few hours and soak it down. Today I took the little bit and slammed it in tight with a hammer 'till it was stuck! Then took a ratchet that fit over the bit and finally they broke loose then came out like butter.
Soooo, after much cussing, yelling, and even getting my neighbor involved I got it. On the plus side the Polaris dealer in front of my house gave me two replacement screws for free. Cool dealership too!
I now have the templates done! First person that wants it get's it for free. Anyone else maybe a buck or so for shipping/help with roll of material! You will still need to take off the plates to do it. Just so you know!
Now off to the pegs!
Mary
Hell if no one else is gonna step up I'll take them if your sending out both sides and for free since I have no job lol
Alrighty! PM me your address and I will try to get it out to you asap. I have PT and work tomorrow I should be able to get it out on Wednesday if work doesn't tire me out too bad. Now you will have to trim off some from the outside. I make it little bigger so you got some wiggle room. I will also let you do the holes for the screws those two things are really easy. All I did was take a small kitchen knife and placed it right to the edge of the metal and peeled around.
So, lemme know. you are the lucky winner thank Josh08!
Mary
OH I got my pegs on tonight Whoo Hooo they look pretty sweet !
Mary
Awesome, PM'd you!
Thanks JOSH!
BTW Mary, Thread is worthless without pics! lol
try putting the end of the allen key the the middle of a small ring spanner and use that as extended leverage to undo the screws.
np utgunslinger :thumb: just post a pic when you get yours install too :cheers:
Guys 'n Gals;
For future reference, do your self a BIG favor and get a set of metric hex drive sockets that fit your regular socket ratchet or breaker bar. The larger "T" type allens are cool too. THis lets you keep inward pressur on the hex drive so that it does not twist out. Also get a small jar of valve lapping compound. When you put enough stress on that "T" handle or socket ratchet that you are aftaid it will twist out anyway, then dip the end of the hex bit into the lapping compound and try again -- it give the tool a really firm grip in the bolt. If its really stuck, DO NOT get a 500# gorilla to twist out the head! Get your crappy old regular "L" shaped Allen tool and put it in the bolt's head and apply propane flame to the tool right up next to the bolt - then change to the good tool to apply torque.
Neat looking "carbon" material.
prs
Actually, I did use metric ones non metric ones nada! Then yeah I did the 300lb gorilla friend that didn't help either. It just took a bunch of that stuff ohgood recommended and three days of constant soaking. When I beat the metric bit in until I thought I would just beat my brains out too! I used the "t" lever and that is how it finally broke.
Okay Okay arm twisted! Here are the pics!
(http://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr264/Toogoofy317/Motorcycle/P1000356.jpg)
(http://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr264/Toogoofy317/Motorcycle/P1000355.jpg)
(http://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr264/Toogoofy317/Motorcycle/P1000354.jpg)
Now I gotta find suitable replacement screws. Gonna stop by stealership tomorrow see what they have.
Hope ya like!
Mary
What are those? Poker chips?
Nope not a poker chip! It is a Moose racing Insignia. Here is a close up pic!
(http://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr264/Toogoofy317/Motorcycle/P1000362.jpg)
I bought some Shoei decals and these came with them LOL!
Is there a way to adjust the brake peg cause with these new ones it sits a bit high now and I always seem to be on the brake!
Mary
Yeah, I think there is a way to adjust it. Take the heel guard off again and look for a nut to loosen on the threaded rod going up to the master cylinder. You want the attachment point of the brake pedal to move up on the threaded rod. Tighten it up good when you find the right position.
I have to take that thing off again. That really makes me wanna cry right now! I never knew what a PITA that was going to be. I even got the right bolts to replace from dealer and now I can't get it tight enough! guess I gotta get another gorrilla to get it tight again.
:cry:
Mary