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Title: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: kml.krk on September 19, 2009, 07:02:31 PM
Guys I found cheap R6 shock but I am not sure if this is this fits GS500.
Can you tell me if it does??

All I know about it is this: "REAR SHOCK OFF A 2007/06 YAMAHA R6 (SHORT EX)-WILL ALSO FIT THE 08-09"

what does short-ex mean??

here's pic
(http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb128/kmlkrk/r6shock.png)

thanks a lot
Title: Re: I need quick answer to a R6 shock fitment question
Post by: Bluehaze on September 19, 2009, 07:16:48 PM
Well you got the right YEAR.  however i am not sure what short EX mean.   It deffinitly looks like mine.
Title: Re: I need quick answer to a R6 shock fitment question
Post by: annguyen1981 on September 19, 2009, 07:42:04 PM
That means it's the SHORT EXHAUST.

AKA 3rd generation R6 bikes
AKA R6r


Be careful!!!!   There are TWO versions of the R6 in those years.  I've got an '07 R6s which is the second generation.  I THINK what I've read about the R6 shock on here is about the 3rd gen.
Title: Re: I need quick answer to a R6 shock fitment question
Post by: cboling on September 19, 2009, 07:50:27 PM
If the one you are buying looks like that, it should fit. Reason being that there is a bolt clevis at the top of the shock which is removable. (I believe that is the 3rd gen type.) The more I ride with mine, the more I really believe it is a good fit. Just feels really good for a fat guy.  :D
Title: Re: I need quick answer to a R6 shock fitment question
Post by: kml.krk on September 19, 2009, 08:53:41 PM
thanks guys. I purchased the shock! I hope it will fit my GS well.
Can't wait to put it in!
Title: Re: *ANSWERED* I need quick answer to a R6 shock fitment question
Post by: Bluehaze on September 19, 2009, 09:34:00 PM
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=49468.0

check this out for yamaha parts you might want to buy.
info on the last few message of thread.
Title: Re: *ANSWERED* I need quick answer to a R6 shock fitment question
Post by: kml.krk on September 30, 2009, 04:31:14 PM
so I got my shock today.
....and it's... yellow... I don't care about the color, but I need your expertise on whether it is the same thing as the red one?
I heard the stories that yellow is softer than red or something...

I compared the pictures of the red one with mine and visually they look the same, but if you know otherwise please don't hesitate to let me know.

thanks very much
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: The Buddha on September 30, 2009, 04:47:36 PM
The twin eyelet version - generation of the R6 before the one this shock came from came with a red spring shock. That spring is garbage. The standard mod is to put the yellow spring form the next version in that. Its well ... a smaller mass of garbage.

Unless I open a R6 shock sometime I am going to call them all as marginal.

That is lovely ... cos I have 3 of the bloody things and all I managed to do was adjust the red one (twin eyelet) by hand ... oh yea, in positions 1-3 the collar will turn by hand. The 1-2 positions its loose ... it will rattle if you shake it.

Sorry, one type of yellow is an upgrade for one type of red, that's all I can say.

Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: kml.krk on September 30, 2009, 05:34:00 PM
call me retarded but I did not understand much of what you said Sr...th.
I know you speak ironically often and I am unable to distinguish irony from fact from joke this time.  :dunno_white:

in simple words please:
1. is it going to fit?
2. is it better shock than stock?

thanks
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: Bluehaze on September 30, 2009, 05:38:35 PM
I am not sure either what he just said.

However an R6 06 shock is no where near garbage if that is what i think he is saying.  Stock does not compare to this at all. I have the red.

2. I think he is saying the yellow is supposed to be an upgrade to the red.. in which case pop that baby on and call it a day. You wont regret it in any way.
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: cboling on September 30, 2009, 07:48:13 PM
Yep. I was the first guinea pig to try this and mine was Silver of all colors. ???? Anyway, fitting that shock is easy. I had my wheel off and all the rear brake assembly. At first I thought the brake torque bar ? was allowing the swingarm to drop further but it was more probably the fact that I had the wheel off. That seemed to let me install the shock easier than others have experienced. I don't know that the spring diameters are much different so not sure about tensile strength of the spring.

However, if you want to simply try it, remove the stock one, install the R6 shock. Ride it. There is a minor point where the swing arm touches the last coil but on mine, I have not ground that down just yet and I don't think it will make any problems. Just ride it. I believe you will tell a difference immediately but in all honesty, I didn't have a chance to ride with a stock shock.

Since I have installed .95kg Sonic front springs and added this, my bike rides very well.
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: seamax on October 01, 2009, 07:40:53 AM
So what is the height difference in the rear or sitting position between the R6 and stcok shock?
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: The Buddha on October 01, 2009, 08:06:34 AM
The spring on the R6 shock that has twin eyelet - maybe 06-07 not sure the year ... the spring was red, and the collar can be turned by hand in 1-2-3. I was going to use it im my GR which has the twin eyelet shock ... but looks like I prolly will end up with a limp GR ... Maybe yellow spring will help and it came with a yellow spring. No idea, I am still making a tool to press em open.
Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: cboling on October 01, 2009, 10:03:22 AM
Quote from: seamax on October 01, 2009, 07:40:53 AM
So what is the height difference in the rear or sitting position between the R6 and stcok shock?

None that I can tell.
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: Bluehaze on October 01, 2009, 11:50:38 AM
no change to seat hight at all.
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: The Buddha on October 01, 2009, 12:00:11 PM
It is a longer shock isn't it. I'll measure em tonight.
Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: kml.krk on October 02, 2009, 08:37:52 AM
guys, thanks for replies. I did not have any time to play with the shock (Advanced C++ programming exam...)
but I looked some more at it and it looks like I got 2008 version. It explains why it's yellow.
I don't have any actual pics yet, but below is exactly the same one.
What do you think?

(http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb128/kmlkrk/used-2008-yamaha-r6-rear-shock-m-1.jpg)

(http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb128/kmlkrk/used-2008-yamaha-r6-rear-shock-m-2.jpg)

(http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb128/kmlkrk/used-2008-yamaha-r6-rear-shock-m-3.jpg)

(http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb128/kmlkrk/used-2008-yamaha-r6-rear-shock-m-4.jpg)
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: cboling on October 02, 2009, 08:50:06 AM
Very Nice! it looks like the reservoir has more clearance the 06-07 ones. I say it should work. To be sure, remoev the top stud as you won't need that. Measure the holes from center to center with a metric ruler. If it's around 290mm, you should be fine. The spring looks about the same maybe slightly thicker? That really looks completely satisfying!
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: mitch.lax on October 14, 2009, 12:26:16 AM
For those who are interested:

The red R6 shock (07) fits without grinding the swingarm but you do need some muscle to get it in. The bolt holes don't like up exactly, but you can move it and manipulate and swear a bunch and it fits.
It doesn't fit if you're trying to use shorter dogbones to raise the rear. You'd need to grind the swingarm for that.
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: The Buddha on October 14, 2009, 06:35:17 AM
Quote from: kml.krk on October 02, 2009, 08:37:52 AM
guys, thanks for replies. I did not have any time to play with the shock (Advanced C++ programming exam...)
but I looked some more at it and it looks like I got 2008 version. It explains why it's yellow.
I don't have any actual pics yet, but below is exactly the same one.
What do you think?

(http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb128/kmlkrk/used-2008-yamaha-r6-rear-shock-m-1.jpg)

(http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb128/kmlkrk/used-2008-yamaha-r6-rear-shock-m-2.jpg)

(http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb128/kmlkrk/used-2008-yamaha-r6-rear-shock-m-3.jpg)

(http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb128/kmlkrk/used-2008-yamaha-r6-rear-shock-m-4.jpg)

The preload collar, see if you can adjust it in the 1-2-3 positions by hand. No spanner tool, no vice, just grip it and turn it.
Cos on mine I could.
BTW the other important thing people want, is an extra 1-2 inch ride height, I'd almost say a shock the same ride height as the flaccid old one you're getitng out is near about useless.
Having said that, I still intend to try mine retrofitted with extra preload, 1/4 inch spacer dropped under the retaining ring, in my GR. If it works, I'd be so thrilled. BTW its got good fluid adjustability range. Again my shock is twin eyelet, not 1 eyelet and 1 clevise.
Cool.
buddha.
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: kml.krk on October 14, 2009, 05:06:57 PM
I will check if i can spin it by hand soon. So far I have not been able to get my head out of books.
Tough semester...
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: DoD#i on October 16, 2009, 06:05:18 AM
I'm thinking to buy bluehaze's R6 shock, but begin to doubt if it will with with the stock airbox (which I don't want to swap out, sorry K&N fans). Does it or doesn't it? Anybody got installed pics?
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: The Buddha on October 16, 2009, 07:59:54 AM
I am no K&N fan either of late. But I suspect it will be a very very tight squeeze but just about manage.
Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: kml.krk on October 16, 2009, 06:11:58 PM
maybe you could heat up the airbox and reshape it a little, just enough to make little more room for the shock??

just thinking out loud
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: Bluehaze on October 16, 2009, 08:14:56 PM
jesus.. why does everyone listen to buddha regarding this shock.. he hasnt even put it on his bike.. this thing is fine and will fit witout needing to remove the air box.  its a great suspension.. he may have recieved a bad shock for all we know.. out of the few people that has posted about and actually INSTALLED IT..  they are all positive.
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: The Buddha on October 16, 2009, 09:36:26 PM
I keep saying its a double eyelet shock. The one that fits a GS is a eyelet and clevise shock.
Read the post guys. Really prolly every word. I am great and contradicting myself, no I'm not.

Anyway airbox torching - as you were ...

Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: dread_au on October 17, 2009, 04:11:40 AM
Done 3000kms with my r6 shock and it  hasnt imploded or exploded.  I am using the stock airbox. Have a look at my install post for more info.
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: mitch.lax on October 17, 2009, 09:25:12 PM
The R6 shock seems fine. I've got a K&N lunchbox and not the air box. The shock dosen't fit with shorter dogbones though.
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: tt_four on March 09, 2010, 06:28:36 AM
I know this is an old topic, but I've been trying to look up some info for replacing my rear shock with an R6 shock. Seems way more complicated that I expected. Seems to be some confusion as to which one you can use.

Anyway, my question... will it work with longer dog bones to lower the rear? Everyone keeps saying you can't use shorter ones to raise the rear. I don't have any plans to change the height yet, but once I get myself another bike, this one's going to go back to being ridden by Heather, and I'd like to lower it with the dogbones I already have. Will I be able to leave the R6 shock on it if I lower it?
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: seamax on March 09, 2010, 09:06:15 AM
I'm going to take a stab at this and say YES longer dogbones will fit the R6 shock because....

I currently have a red R6 with shorter dogbones. I had to grind a little bit of the inside of the swingarm to not hit the lower coil on the R6 shock to accomodate the shorter dogbones otherwise it's a direct bolt.

With longer dogbones for a lower ride you probably will never hit that lower coil.

I had the GSXR shock before and could not fit shorter dogbones in there because the gsxr shock was longer than the stock shock. The R6 shock is almost equal in length as the stocker.
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: tt_four on March 09, 2010, 02:13:52 PM
Thanks, I'm gonna keep an eye out for the red one. Did anyone ever figure out if the yellow coil shock will fit, or just stick with the red one?
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: kml.krk on March 09, 2010, 05:30:01 PM
Quote from: tt_four on March 09, 2010, 02:13:52 PM
Thanks, I'm gonna keep an eye out for the red one. Did anyone ever figure out if the yellow coil shock will fit, or just stick with the red one?
I will soon find out - I have R6 shock with yellow coil but didn't have a chance to install it yet.
If someone could give me dimensions of the red coil I could measure mine and then we will know if it's the same thing or not (I hope it is)
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: tt_four on March 09, 2010, 08:37:50 PM
I've read that the holes are supposed to be 290mm center to center, but that's about all I've seen as far as measurements.
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: kml.krk on March 10, 2010, 11:08:35 AM
what about the coil itself? How 'wide' can it be? (the distance from left to the right side of a coil) sorry - I can find proper word for what I mean ;)
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: tt_four on March 10, 2010, 12:18:56 PM
diameter
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: BaltimoreGS on March 10, 2010, 02:14:41 PM
I don't have a measuring caliper handy but eyeballing it with a ruler I would say it is 70mm.

-Jessie
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: kml.krk on March 10, 2010, 08:53:32 PM
Quote from: tt_four on March 10, 2010, 12:18:56 PM
diameter
I thought about diameter but then I realized that it may suggest the thickness of the coil  :dunno_white:
anyways, I am going to measure the coil as I just got back home.
Give me a minute...
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: kml.krk on March 10, 2010, 09:16:00 PM
76mm.
does it mean it won't fit??
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: BaltimoreGS on March 11, 2010, 06:45:00 AM
I'll be at the work shop this weekend where I have real measuring tools so I can get a precise measurement (if I remember to take the shock with me) but eyeballing it looked less than 76mm to me.  Doesn't mean it won't work though, may just require you to grind the swing arm more.

-Jessie
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: tt_four on March 11, 2010, 07:05:00 AM
That's just an additional 3mm on each side. A couple seconds with a grinder, or a couple minutes with a file and you should be fine.
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: kml.krk on March 11, 2010, 07:07:01 PM
great. thanks for clarification!
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: Afzzr12 on March 11, 2010, 09:02:46 PM

The preload collar, see if you can adjust it in the 1-2-3 positions by hand. No spanner tool, no vice, just grip it and turn it.
Cos on mine I could.
BTW the other important thing people want, is an extra 1-2 inch ride height, I'd almost say a shock the same ride height as the flaccid old one you're getitng out is near about useless.Having said that, I still intend to try mine retrofitted with extra preload, 1/4 inch spacer dropped under the retaining ring, in my GR. If it works, I'd be so thrilled. BTW its got good fluid adjustability range. Again my shock is twin eyelet, not 1 eyelet and 1 clevise.
Cool.
buddha.
[/quote]

In reference to the "bold, italic, underlined words above"

I am trying to figure out why you think the R6 six shock at the same ride height is not any better than the floppy stock shock????  Is this what you meant or were you trying to say the R6 shock at stock ride height is better than the stock shock with 1-2 added ride height.  If only someone taught you proper communication skills your great wealth of knowledge would be useful!  HAHAHAHHAHA!  You can be so much help, but I need a Buddha decoder ring sometimes.
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: tt_four on March 12, 2010, 06:05:42 AM
haha, it's true
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: BaltimoreGS on March 14, 2010, 06:40:09 PM
Quote from: kml.krk on March 10, 2010, 09:16:00 PM
76mm.
does it mean it won't fit??

Well my eyeballs suck.  Checked it with a real measuring tool this weekend and got 76mm on the red shock coils.

-Jessie
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: kml.krk on March 14, 2010, 07:14:55 PM
^^^^^^
awesome
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: fraze11 on November 27, 2011, 05:08:20 PM
I know this thread is a little old but if there are any of you out there that have the red, yellow or silver R6 rear shock would you be able to tell me if there is a functional difference or is it *just* the color of the spring?  Im ready to get one and I know I need the clevice style but short of that when I look around on ebay I see yellow, silver and red ones...they *appear* to be identical aside from the spring color (and on the 08 and newer ones the resivoir is smaller) but short of that they look exactly the same...so I dont know if different colors meant different spring rates, or it was  done to match paint schemes on the bike, or what Yamaha was doing?  But I was hoping if any of you guys who are actually USING any of these various colors to chime in if you could :)  It will expedite my purchase.  Much appreciated!

Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: kml.krk on November 28, 2011, 04:05:05 PM
I have no idea what the color does. I am the OP of this thread and my shock is yellow which actually matches my bike nicely :)
It may be what you said - color matching to a bike or different spring rate.
Anyways, whichever you get it will still be better than a stock shock which bounces like an old couch :) So hesitate no more and if you have a good deal just get one.

good luck
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: nicoyastyln on October 22, 2013, 10:38:38 AM
I know this is an old post but before I bought this R6 SHOCK I wanted to confirm if I have the right one that would fit on my '08 GS500F without removing any parts above the shock and the rear wheel.
(http://www.imghst.org/viewimage.php?iid=626)
2007 Yamaha YZF R6 OEM Rear Shock
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: JAS6377 on October 22, 2013, 10:54:20 AM
I can't see the pic on my phone. However, as long as it is an R6R and not an R6S shock (it has to have the clevis like in the OP), it should fit. I don't think color matters. Mine is silver, and it fit with no mods.
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: nicoyastyln on October 22, 2013, 10:55:59 AM
sorry

(http://www.imghst.org/uploads/ysh0gzp93k3t.JPG)
Title: Re: R6 shock [Yellow VS Red]
Post by: JAS6377 on October 22, 2013, 11:06:45 AM
It's all good. I'll start replying to your thread now, so we can let this one rest in piece lol.