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I was working on this the last days. I copy / paste my message in a forum of Argentina. If someone can translate it, thanks! I find it hard to write in English!


Buenas gente, aca les traigo otra modificacion que habia prometido hace un tiempo. Si bien esta operativa, la idea en un futuro es cambiar su ubicacion al tacometro o tablero.
Se trata de un indicador de marchas/cambios. Ahorrense los comentarios de que es al pedo, de que se puede vivir sin el, y hasta que es de chica jaja, que coincido con todos, solo que no me puedo quedar quieto :)
Voy a poner el circuito electrico y algo asi como un paso a paso, muy basico, pero que muestra bien la idea. En componentes electronicos habre gastado algo de $5, unos $2.5 (siempre hablando de pesos argentinos, multipliquen por 6 para euro) en la cajita plastica donde lo aloje, y algun conectorcito mas. Compre todo hace tiempo pero es muy barato, yo por lo menos lo compre en las casas de electronica de la calle parana y ahi haces la diferencia comparado con la de tu barrio.

Bueno, manos a la obra.
La GS500 solo indica el Neutro, y para eso tiene, debajo de la tapa del piñon, un switch circular que manda a masa el unico cable que tiene conectado cuando tiene la posicion correcta. Lo que necesitamos seria un switch muy parecido, pero con contactos en las otras 6 posiciones de los cambios, ya hablaremos de eso...
El siguiente circuito esta modificado por mi, habia encontrado uno pero no estaba simplificado, tenia un integrado mas y era un bodrio, el de mi autoria y que yo use e invito a copiar, es el siguiente:

(http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3810/circuito.jpg)

Que pasado a impreso y con los componentes montados queraria algo asi:

(http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2440/spma0426y.jpg)

Bueno vamos a la parte artistica, elegi ubicarlo aca y mas o menos asi:

(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/706/spma0379.jpg)

Pero despues me di cuenta que si limaba un poquito aqui y otro poquito alla dejando el plastico curvo, quedaria mas pasable:

(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/4111/spma0384.jpg)

Este es el plastico que use, era de otra forma y le di la actual a base de lija y dremel. Pueden ver las marcas de donde iria ubicado el display y del contorno de la chapa gris que sostiene los relojes (los extremos vas un poquito mas atras, sobre la carcaza de los relojes directamente).

(http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6505/spma0382.jpg)

Con el display de 7 segmentos presentado encima:

(http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/3818/spma0380.jpg)

Sabia que no iba a poder hacerle un agujero cuadrado demasiado prolijo para encastrarlo, asi que fui a una casa de acrilicos donde me regalaron un pedazo de acrilico de unos 3 mm de espesor, fume, al que le di la forma de la parte que quedaria visible. Por debajo, el display ya incrustado:

(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/3596/spma0451.jpg)
(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3596/spma0451.jpg)

Montando y probando funcionamiento (sin conexion con la moto todavia):

(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/5089/spma0561z.jpg)
(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/3489/spma0552.jpg)
(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1227/spma0553.jpg)
(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/5525/spma0554.jpg)
(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/9111/spma0555.jpg)
(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/6062/spma0557.jpg)

Y ahora la parte rata del tutorial, y la mas dificil y artesanal, el switch de 7 contactos. La GS500 dispone de uno de 1 solo contacto, para el Neutro, pero tiene espacio para fabricarle los demas. O, aca tienen el repuesto que tienen que comprar para cambiarlo directamente, no se de que moto es, pero seria lo idea claro si tenes la plata. Fijense la cantidad de contactos que tiene, se van a dar cuenta de la diferencia cuando vean el de uds:

(http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/7734/switchd.jpg)

Peeero, como cuesta casi $250!!!!! Y este tutorial es bien rata, vamos a destripar al pobrecito switch original, a perforarlo hasta que llore, y vamos a mardarle tornillitos con sellador que hagan de contactos, para soldarles cables en el otro extremo!

(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3426/spma0558.jpg)
(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/3426/spma0558.jpg)

Que feo es del lado de los cables:

(http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5282/spma0562.jpg)

Pero que lindo y suave como bb quedo del lado importante:

(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3606/spma0563.jpg)

Pueden ver 3 contactos mas juntos que los demas, eso es porque el del medio es el original, del Neutro.
Ja! La alegria que tuve cuando vi que este engendro de switch funcionaba como debia!
Bueno gente, eso es todo, les dejo un videito para que terminen de ver el funcionamiento y listo. Tengo pendiente fabricarle alguna tapita de plastico, va de fibra, para que quede cerrada la parte trasera del display, ya vere como me las arreglo, le escapo a la fibra por ahora.


(¿Que alguien lo pegue como corresponde plis?)

Consulten cualquier duda, saludos!

I can't translate, but this is VERY well done!

Very cool, looks polished like it's 'supposed' to be there.

Google translate is ok sometimes...

Quote from: boxin on November 26, 2009, 09:30:07 PM
I was working on this the last days. I copy / paste my message in a forum of Argentina. If someone can translate it, thanks! I find it hard to write in English!


Good people, here I bring you another modification that had been promised for some time. While operating, the idea in the future is to change your location to tachometer or board.
This is a gear indicator / changes. Ahorrense comments that is to fart, that you can live without, and until it is jaja girl, I agree with everyone, only I can not sit still
I'll put the electric circuit and something like a step by step, very basic, but shows the idea. Electronic components will have spent some $ 5, some $ 2.5 (always referring to Argentine pesos, multiply by 6 to euro) in the plastic box where he lodged, and conectorcito any more. Buy all for a while but is very cheap, I buy it at least in the homes of electronica parana street and there you make the difference compared to your neighborhood.

Well, get to work.
The GS500 only indicates the Neutral, and for this he has, under the cover of nettles, a switch that sends mass movement the only cable that is connected when it has the correct position. What we need would be a very similar switch, but with contacts in the other 6 positions of the changes, will talk about that ...
The next circuit is modified by me, had found one but it was simplified, had a more integrated and was a snafu on my authorship and invite me to use and copy, is as follows:


(http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3810/circuito.jpg)

What happened to printed and mounted components Querari something like this:

(http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2440/spma0426y.jpg)

Well let's the art part, I chose to locate here and more or less like this:

(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/706/spma0379.jpg)

But then I realized that if I wore away a little here and a little there, leaving the curved plastic, would be more tolerable:

(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/4111/spma0384.jpg)

This is the plastic you use, it was otherwise and gave the current base of sandpaper and dremel. You can see marks where the display would go and set the contours of the gray metal that holds the clock (the ends go a little further back on the carcass of the clocks directly).

(http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6505/spma0382.jpg)

With the 7-segment display presented above:

(http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/3818/spma0380.jpg)

I knew I was not going to make a square hole too verbose for built-in, so I went to a house where acrylics gave me a piece of acrylic about 3 mm thick smoke, which gave him the shape of the part that would be visible. Below the display and embedded:

(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/3596/spma0451.jpg)
(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3596/spma0451.jpg)

Mounting and testing operation (no connection with the bike yet):

(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/5089/spma0561z.jpg)
(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/3489/spma0552.jpg)
(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1227/spma0553.jpg)
(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/5525/spma0554.jpg)
(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/9111/spma0555.jpg)
(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/6062/spma0557.jpg)

And now the tutorial rat, and the most difficult and crafts, 7 contacts the switch. The GS500 has one of only 1 contact, for the neutral, but has room for production to the other. Or, here are the parts that have to buy to change it directly, not that bike is, but it would clear idea if you got the silver. Mind you how many contacts you have, are going to realize when they see the difference of you:

(http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/7734/switchd.jpg)

Peeero, and costs almost $ 250 !!!!! And this tutorial is good rat, we will gut the poor thing original switch to drill until she cries, and we're going to Mardan sprig with sealant to make contacts, soldered wires on the other end!

(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3426/spma0558.jpg)
(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/3426/spma0558.jpg)

That ugly side of the cables:

(http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5282/spma0562.jpg)

But that cute and stay soft bb important side:

(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3606/spma0563.jpg)

3 contacts can see more together than others, that's because the middle is the original, of Neutral.
Ha! The joy I had when I saw this travesty of switch worked as it should!
Well people, that's all, I leave un videito finish to see the operation and go. I have yet to make some plastic cap, ranging from fiber to be closed to the rear of the display, and I'll see how I manage, I escaped to the fiber for now.

[youtube] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLIMQi5DrAs [/ youtube]
(What paste as befits someone plis?)

Check any doubt, greetings!
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Great job!  It looks almost like it's supposed to be there  :bowdown:

Here's the link to his video showing the operation of the gear indicator:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLIMQi5DrAs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLIMQi5DrAs)


Saludos y gracias por la descripcion. Se ve excelente. K excelente trabajo.

fantastico.
gracias.

Very nice work!  :thumb:

Well done  :cheers:

Very nice, Id love one but $250..... Ill settle for the "what gear was I in ?" attitude... If it was like $40 $50 yeah.... I'd do it in a sec

For those who did not understand the text in Spanish: the cost of the gear indicator is 3 dollars!

yeah well that would have been useful to know before I posted... lol

Hey, that's pretty cool beans!

If anyone is interested, I have a gear indicator for sale -Biketronix Tour gear Indicator( blue color) http://www.biketronix.info/uk_shop/index1.html
Brand new never installed on the bike 40$plus shipping
Manoj

Dude.. if you make some more of these.. I'm sure you can get some interest here. Depending on price of course :)

Isnt there a way to put a gear indicator on your bike already in the wiki?   If so could you just swap out the little screen that shows the number to this neat thing?  does that make sense at all or is it to early for me to be posting?

Quote from: Yev on November 29, 2009, 10:05:43 PM
Dude.. if you make some more of these.. I'm sure you can get some interest here. Depending on price of course :)

Honestly I do not want to do it again: p
But for that I did the "Do It Yourself" ... C'mon, it's easy!

Quote from: joker79507 on November 30, 2009, 04:59:46 AM
Isnt there a way to put a gear indicator on your bike already in the wiki?   If so could you just swap out the little screen that shows the number to this neat thing?  does that make sense at all or is it to early for me to be posting?

I did not know there was already a gear indicator on the wiki.
For the rest, I do not understand what you're asking: s

Quote from: boxin on November 30, 2009, 08:23:12 AM

Quote from: joker79507 on November 30, 2009, 04:59:46 AM
Isnt there a way to put a gear indicator on your bike already in the wiki?   If so could you just swap out the little screen that shows the number to this neat thing?  does that make sense at all or is it to early for me to be posting?

I did not know there was already a gear indicator on the wiki.
For the rest, I do not understand what you're asking: s

Yep there was but yours looked much much easier or maybe the other one had to much detail  :dunno_white:...yeah yeah yeah im useless lol but either way yours looks much much cleaner.   :thumb:

I just read the wiki.
Yes, that is the electrical circuit in which I was inspired. I was inspired by the idea, so I modified the circuit almost completely as you can see. Also the "BRIC" is totally different.
The electrical circuit that I propose is simpler, uses less power and occupies less space. And is mounted more "pro":)

Looks great - good stuff!  :)

Unfortunately, many of the pictures didn't show up (403 forbidden error)  :technical:

Yeah, if your still around.. host those pics again.. a friend and I are going to attempt this on my bike!  :thumb:

Here I leave a. Zip with the images and videos of the original post. I now have the challenge of placing it in my new GSXF600 Katana. http://www.amigosdeloeste.com/varios/indicador.zip