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Title: unknown engine noise
Post by: T1z3R on June 23, 2010, 04:10:02 AM
hello gs people. i spent several hours last night reading every gs500 noise thread i could find on the entire internets and am as yet none the wiser.

ive only had this engine in the bike for a few weeks but until recently it had only been run on the stand to get it set up.

i set out on it the other evening for a short test run round the block which went ok although a little lumpy (due to the carbs i feel) but when i got back to the driveway and blipped the trottle this tick/clack/click/smack type noise started. have a listen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWrl7-WKgos (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWrl7-WKgos)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06TUrMN8P08 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06TUrMN8P08)


ive taken the head back off and double checked timing, cam chain, tensioner, cams, lobes etc and nothing seems out of whack. valves are within tolerance and ive fitted a brand new genuine head gasket but the noise remained after i put it back together although seems louder and lower down in the engine than before.

my dad thinks its from the cylinder area but i think its from the upper crank but we both agree its from the left side.

before it gets a full tear down im hoping anyone can offer some suggestions as to is cause/source cos im almost bald from it.
Title: Re: unknown engine noise
Post by: Paulcet on June 23, 2010, 07:04:23 AM
Left side....  not likely but maybe do a search on "goat's" (here on GSTwin, not google!  Not that there is anything wrong with that...)
Title: Re: unknown engine noise
Post by: T1z3R on June 23, 2010, 07:13:33 AM
thanks for the reply.
im familiar with goats but does it make that sort of noise?
Title: Re: unknown engine noise
Post by: The Buddha on June 23, 2010, 07:45:45 AM
Unbalanced feel, and noise from left definetly bears checking out for goats. And yes Mine made horrible noises, but I was so far gone on mine ... but think about it, rotor and stator hitting each other will be noisy.
Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: unknown engine noise
Post by: Homer on June 23, 2010, 08:03:35 AM
If it is GOATS, talk to SlimKlim.  He's got parts you may want. 
Title: Re: unknown engine noise
Post by: Twism86 on June 23, 2010, 09:22:17 AM
Whats is this "GOATS" you all are talking about?
Title: Re: unknown engine noise
Post by: The Buddha on June 23, 2010, 10:49:40 AM
Quote from: Twism86 on June 23, 2010, 09:22:17 AM
Whats is this "GOATS" you all are talking about?

Alternator rotor and stator make contact and pretty much bash each other to pulp.
Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: unknown engine noise
Post by: Anaconda on June 23, 2010, 11:35:40 AM
yeah, sometimes i get that on my bike too, particularly if i'm slowed down to turn into a parking spot. lol sometimes it'll get embarassingly loud, but i'm familair with hearing that sound too.  whe you figure out what to do, i'd love to know as well.
Title: Re: unknown engine noise
Post by: The Buddha on June 23, 2010, 08:53:47 PM
Yours could be the cam chain ...the imbalanced feel and noise out the left end of the crank = goats. Remmeber drive chain also is on the left.
Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: unknown engine noise
Post by: Anaconda on June 23, 2010, 10:25:23 PM
@ buddha,  maybe you've seen the vid i posted up before, but maybe you can solve it if you heard it too.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl5byiFCNwk
Title: Re: unknown engine noise
Post by: cHa0s on June 24, 2010, 07:10:57 AM
sounds like the cam chain....
Title: Re: unknown engine noise
Post by: Anaconda on June 24, 2010, 04:14:39 PM
Quote from: cHa0s on June 24, 2010, 07:10:57 AM
sounds like the cam chain....

Alrright. I'll bring it to my friend and have him check it out.
Title: Re: unknown engine noise
Post by: T1z3R on June 27, 2010, 08:43:21 AM
got about 4mm vertical play in the left piston/conrod so looks like the big end went.
Title: Re: unknown engine noise
Post by: cHa0s on June 27, 2010, 11:13:12 AM
Quote from: T1z3R on June 27, 2010, 08:43:21 AM
got about 4mm vertical play in the left piston/conrod so looks like the big end went.
left cylinder? did you run the engine without oil? 4mm is mad. the rodbearing has a thickness of 2x 1.5mm.....
Title: Re: unknown engine noise
Post by: T1z3R on June 27, 2010, 02:03:59 PM
engine hasnt been run for any length of time in my possession so unsure how it was treated previous.
4mm may be a slight exageration but it feels like a lot of movement.