Just got my rego renewal notice, and holy butt-F&cking Jesus! >:(
Up $100 from last year to $717, what the living f%$k!
Goddamn goverment leeching B*stards.
I seriously need to move to West Aus, if what I read is correct it would cost me less than half that to register the bike there. :cookoo:
price gouging ftl....you're not going to want to hear what reg costs me
Probably not, but this thread is intended to share the pain (or lack of if you get cheap rego).
what is "rego"?
Vehicle registration.
holy balls that's a lot. my CAR only costs like $180 US to register.
It's nearly $200 cheaper to register my car than my bike.
crikey that is steep.. still for a GS? .. in NSW its costing me $108 to RTA and about $278 to greenslip ppl .. the rego transfer cost me more at $187 but thats to be expected i guess.
Quote from: Janx101crikey that is steep.. still for a GS?
Yep. If I were to step up to a bike anything over 600cc it would only cost me $5 more.
wow, that's expensive. When I lived in Delaware it was only $10/year to register motorcycles. I think they raised it to $15 now. I think California has got to be the most expensive state for registering vehicles and it's still only like $60-70/year.
I just paid the Rego on mine in Queensland today. $450 which I thought was an outrage. Glad I don't live over the border.
Hey Pave what state you in? I'm in NSW and the greenslip price came down this year for 300-750cc bikes. Everything went up and under 300cc went up DRAMATICALLY. Stupidly so.
Are we talking about registration or insurance? I think registration here is $25 a year, insurance on the GS was about $97 for liability and the XB9 was $116. Full coverage on either would've been about $250.
My electric bill on the other hand.... used to be about $57 every month, and last month jumped up to $197. Haven't gotten this months yet. F'n dogs and their air conditioning...
The OP is from Australia.
I saw English insurance quotes on the board that truly scared me. Above a thousand pounds for a GS.
USA is "going socialist".........here is an example of things to come!
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And on top of all the compulsory third-party insurance price hikes, here in NSW (Australia) government have just dumped mobile speed cameras operated by civvies upon us! Can you believe that this is an on-the-nose State government seven months out from an election!
On a positive note, this week's demonstration outside the NSW Parliament - yipeeeee!! over a thousand bike and scooter riders turned up - does appear to have an impact on politicians' viewpoints with both sides saying that they would "look at" CTP insurance statistics/costs. Shall I hold my breath?
My insurance (with good coverage, but no health coverage) is $110USD per year. They must know how slowly I ride >:(
Initial registration in Maryland for any used motor vehicle is like sales tax, 6% of value. After that it's cheap.
TT,
Rego in Aust (Qld) includes.... Compulsory Third Party (CTP) Insurance, Traffic Improvement Fees, Registration Fee.
So in Queensland the price works out to...
Registration fee 94.05
Traffic improvement fee 47.15
CTP insurance premium 284.00
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Total fee ($) 425.20
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BTW, for a Single Seater rego it is only 240. And these prices apparently Don't change depending on Who you choose as your CTP insurer - price generated from https://www.service.transport.qld.gov.au/eQuote/eQuote.jsp
Pave's prices for comparison are...
Registration 10.00
CTPI - Item D(2) 634.95
GST on CTPI 63.50
Administration 9.00
Total 717.45
Cheaper "registration" but Massive CTP
Prices from http://www.nt.gov.au/transport/mvr/registration/index.shtml
NOTE, the CTP is Third Party Injury NOT property. For damage to property you Still need Your Normal Insurance. What we call Rego is a govt lumped thing where you pay the Ownership-Tax as shown above and then get a Label to put on your bike together with your License Plate (tag).
In WA it appears to be 2.75% of the vehicle's value and it's called a Vehicle License http://www.dpi.wa.gov.au/licensing/1382.asp
I am actually Dubious about this Registration. Dubious inasmuch as What it actually is. There is Some evidence that by Registering your vehicle you are passing Legal Title to the Govt while you keep Equitable Title. By doing so, the govt can then Legally Confiscate your vehicle if/when the case may be - as they actually have title to it. Otherwise, if they did not have legal title then any confiscation would actually be theft. So Registration passes legal title to the govt while the vehicle's user and person who paid for it, has the Illusion they own it even getting a Certificate of Title/Registration.
Much like a Property Deed always lists the Govt as an encumbrance. By the Govt being on the Deed, they then have the Right to Take your property when you do not pay your property taxes. The Illusion of Ownership.
Once I find out for sure (re registration), I'll post the necessary evidence.
Digress....
Big $ - including Big Insurance - put Massive pressure on the politicians. The pollies pass a legislation which sees an increase in Compulsory Insurance Premiums and Big Insurance makes a squillion. Big insurance profits while pollies or transport depts or anyone else, takes the blame. Clever deception.
Pave, looking at the inconsistency of prices with MCs, it might pay to call your dept trans and Ask them why such a large difference in 3rd party insurance on bikes v car.
Michael
My motorcycle registration renewal this year was $67.50. Come to think of it, that's all I pay every year.
Does registration include insurance? if so that is cheap.
I'm 25+, first year riding, took the safety course. Insurance for the year is ~800 canadian dollars + another ~20 for the license plates. Wasn't any cheaper when my wife took over the GS.
Quote from: grahamlocklinDoes registration include insurance? if so that is cheap.
As per misters posted breakdown $634.95 of it is Compulsory Third Party (personal) Insurance, without which the bike is not considered legally registered.
On top of that I still need insurance to cover Third Party Property, Theft, Loss etc, which is another $400+ dollars. So all up over $1100 to register and insure the bike.
Wow, Canada is expensive, too. I think Geico charges me <$100/year for liability.
I pay progressive $78 per year for liability.
I think registration is around $70.
WOW that is terrible. If I were you i just wouldnt pay it period. Find an old plate and ride with it. Just remember not to get caught :icon_twisted:
It's alright, because everyone in Australia is a ex-criminal anyway. :angel:
:2guns:
Time for you Aussies to get busy.
Quote from: twocool on September 03, 2010, 04:27:04 AM
USA is "going socialist".........here is an example of things to come!
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Socialist you say? (http://mysite.verizon.net/vze2wc9e/ummm.gif)
The Elite Ruling Class has certainly been slow to learn just how much of a brutal pounding most citizens will tolerate before they so much as give a whimper.
If "
they" raised my $25.00 registration fee to $450.00, I would complain but I would still pay it. Just like everyone else.
I think we proved that point when 2 dollar a gallon gas in America went up to 4 dollars a gallon in a month.
We all still drove.
To tell ya' the truth. . .
I'm pretty impressed that the Elite Ruling Class has been this slow to rape us even harder.
No matter how hard "
they" abuse us, elections continue to happen and we continue to get bent-over, regardless of party affiliation.
Kool-Aid or Tea, "
they" win and we loose.
Thank you for getting me upset over such. (http://mysite.verizon.net/vze2wc9e/smokelots.gif)
Regards,
-Ej-
Quote from: grahamlocklin on September 03, 2010, 08:26:44 AM
Does registration include insurance? if so that is cheap.
I'm 25+, first year riding, took the safety course. Insurance for the year is ~800 canadian dollars + another ~20 for the license plates. Wasn't any cheaper when my wife took over the GS.
I'm in Newfoundland and pay $260/year insurance for my GS. It isn't full coverage, just public liability. On a new bike, I'd definitely get comprehensive insurance, but I think if I totalled my bike, it wouldn't be such a huge loss because I didn't pay that much for it.
OMG!!! If the reg turned into 700 bones a year for any of my vehicles I would be riding dirty for sure. Call it what you want, but those bastards already get enough of my cash as is.
On the same subject/example.
I buy a car and keep it for 20 years. Tax paid on it once. OK.....cool
But, I buy it and keep it for a year......Sell it to Mister.....He pays tax on it.......He sells it to Black and Silver......he pays tax on it.......etc.
What a crock of pig crap!!! I think it should be a one time tax for the life of that car. That's what they would get if I kept it til it rusted out right?
You are right about the price of gas going up to 4.35 a gallon. We all still drove but I sure did trade in the 4x4 suburban on a 4 banger camry. As much as I like full sized trucks/SUVs I am not sure if I can go back to that again. I am far from a tree hugger so that wasn't it. I just don't like throwing money away on things that aren't efficient.
/rant on that one.
Back to original thought...Even if your reg was 100 less it's still too friggin much. Mine is around 50 a year. Ins is 78 a year for liability/injury/collision. I guess it's a matter of what you get used to especially if your car is several hundred too. I am sure if it were like that here you wouldn't see people keeping the "spare car" or having 6 motorcycles. Man, I am pretty worked up over here and I didn't even have to pay it. OMG!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Quote from: WorkingProject on September 03, 2010, 11:37:41 AM
It's alright, because everyone in Australia is a ex-criminal anyway. :angel:
Careful, or I might set my pet wombat on you :flipoff: :cheers:
Quote from: pave_spectre on September 03, 2010, 07:58:30 PM
Quote from: WorkingProject on September 03, 2010, 11:37:41 AM
It's alright, because everyone in Australia is a ex-criminal anyway. :angel:
Careful, or I might set my pet wombat on you :flipoff: :cheers:
Nah man get the drop bears onto him. :icon_mrgreen: :cheers:
Quote from: Shaddow on September 04, 2010, 04:56:47 PM
Quote from: pave_spectre on September 03, 2010, 07:58:30 PM
Quote from: WorkingProject on September 03, 2010, 11:37:41 AM
It's alright, because everyone in Australia is a ex-criminal anyway. :angel:
Careful, or I might set my pet wombat on you :flipoff: :cheers:
Nah man get the drop bears onto him. :icon_mrgreen: :cheers:
And then the Yowies :cheers: :thumb:
Michael
Well I can't be arsed spending forever on the phone trying to get answers out of some brainless minion, so am in the process of drafting an email, with a few questions as to thinking behind the massive cost of CTP. Hopefully that way any bullsh*t or lies they give me will be in writing.
My registration on the 07 was $82, my insurance for full coverage is $547 a year. But I'm 21, hopefully it goes down in a few years.
Here in the UK with 13year no claims ins` i pay £180 a year fully comp`.£25 a year for MOT certificate,£48 a year Road tax= £253 a year to keep it legal.The ouch part is fuel@nearly £6 a litre petrol and my usuall oil £25 for 4 litre.