just curious if I am the only person here who does, who doesnt live on a track.
I ride a litre bike but not a I4.
I dont own one, but im looking at a Z1000 or speed triple :icon_mrgreen:
Quote from: Twisted on March 21, 2011, 01:57:31 AM
I ride a litre bike but not a I4.
Same here, it's 1000cc but it's not doing 180mph any time soon.
Mine is almost a 2L, but it's a cruiser. Fastest I've had it (so far) was in the 125-130 range, speedometer indicated for what that is worth.
Well I got liter bikes, and I-4's, but not too new, considered a big sport bike when I got it. An 89 GSXR 1100.
I also have cruisers with 4 cyl liter motors, and sporty twins wiht near 1l displacement.
Cool.
Buddha.
Was this thread supposed to go somewhere, or was it just a survey?? haha
BMW K1300GT. 1290cc I4. 630lbs wet. Top speed limited to 160. Power wheelies in first.
And yes, I have taken it to the track.
(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii63/ctbarbour/Z2%20K1300GT/NM1U9794.jpg)
For what it's worth, 600cc bikes tend to work better on the track than literbikes. If I *was* going to buy a sportbike for the street, I would certainly go looking for a 1000cc I4 over a 600cc I4. With that said, IMO, there are much better bikes out there for street use.
Quote from: tt_four on March 21, 2011, 11:09:39 AM
Was this thread supposed to go somewhere, or was it just a survey?? haha
Compiling a list of garages that are worth hitting... :icon_twisted:
:-X
Later.
The crest in that track looks like amazing fun. My all time favorite thing to do on a bike is find sharp hills like that where you can just give it a little gas as you go over and feel the front end just float the entire way down the hill. From your lean angle I'm assuming you can't hit it with enough speed to really enjoy it because you've gotta slow as soon as you get over it, but that just gave me one more thing to look forward to with the warm weather.
That picture was taken in November, from a track day at Thunder Hill Raceway in Willows, CA.
You can't see it in the picture, but the background is actually the slope down a long hill. The top of the hill is Turn 9, which ends just before the hill crest. On a 600, you can easily pop up the front wheel. Turn 5 is similar - some of the fastest riders will lift the wheel over the crest, though you have to have the perfect line in order to pull it off safely.
Button-willow Raceway down in souther CA actually has a hill on the track called "wheelie hill."
So, plenty of fun to be had if you enjoy lofting that front wheel. :D
Thats not a hill...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkMfI8UII2c
This is a hill!
(http://www.motorcyclenews.com/upload/620/images/WebCadwellPicDaleFordham.jpg)
(http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm17/jammers38/reacadwell.jpg)
Unfortunately it can go wrong...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9DhGIuLIQo&feature=related
Quote from: aygee on March 21, 2011, 04:56:14 PM
Thats not a hill...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkMfI8UII2c
This is a hill!
I was just about to say, my next venture will be finding a hill that will let me get both wheels off the ground. I'll save that for a supermoto though.
Honda 919 - close enough to a liter. Goes plenty fast enough :icon_mrgreen: :thumb: but won't be seeing any track days.
Michael
They can also go bad then good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtjQ4SK4GXk&feature=related
Quote from: ragecage23 on March 22, 2011, 09:30:41 AM
They can also go bad then good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtjQ4SK4GXk&feature=related
Now is the world did he save that!
Quote from: tt_four on March 21, 2011, 08:47:25 PMI was just about to say, my next venture will be finding a hill that will let me get both wheels off the ground. I'll save that for a supermoto though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_Xkywi5XGM
Did some small jumps in SF on my old GSX-R 600.
I did some small jumps in San Lorenzo off some speed bumps haha
Quote from: ragecage23 on March 22, 2011, 12:21:53 PM
I did some small jumps in San Lorenzo off some speed bumps haha
I always jump over speed humps, I forgot about those. I love those things. You have to control yourself in shopping centers buy there's a neighborhood by my parents house that has 5 of them on a quiet back road. You can just hit them all at 40mph.
yup, it was my first time doing it. There's a guy on that street that I like to piss off becauuuuuse, well here's the story. I'm on my way to school (this was a couple years ago) on my little Ninja 250. I'm going 30 down this street with the speed bumps. Well this guy thought I was going to fast and he puts his hand out, so I look behind me to see who he is signaling to. Just then as I pass him he hits me in the arm. So now I looooove to make loud noises by his house and fly down his street any chance I get.
Anyway, that time was my first time hitting some speed bumps and "catching some air" it was fun, and I'm going to keep doing it down his street haha
I didn't think a 600cc and 1000cc felt all that different in the range I ride in...I would LOVE to have a BMW S1000RR though.
Quote from: tykho on March 23, 2011, 05:54:07 PM
I didn't think a 600cc and 1000cc felt all that different in the range I ride in...I would LOVE to have a BMW S1000RR though.
The only one I really have any interest in is the 04 zx10r. The fact that they had to tone the engine down after that model because people kept killing themselves, kind of appeals to me haha. The last comparison I read between the 04 10r and what I think was a 2010 10r said the 04 still had a faster engine. I really like the idea of being able to go 115mph in 1st gear. I honestly don't even know if I've gone that fast on my current bike yet.
Quote from: tt_four on March 24, 2011, 05:27:16 AM
Quote from: tykho on March 23, 2011, 05:54:07 PM
I didn't think a 600cc and 1000cc felt all that different in the range I ride in...I would LOVE to have a BMW S1000RR though.
The only one I really have any interest in is the 04 zx10r. The fact that they had to tone the engine down after that model because people kept killing themselves, kind of appeals to me haha. The last comparison I read between the 04 10r and what I think was a 2010 10r said the 04 still had a faster engine. I really like the idea of being able to go 115mph in 1st gear. I honestly don't even know if I've gone that fast on my current bike yet.
And that makes me want one now
I rode the new Yamaha V-Max about a year and a half ago. Unbelievably fun bike, if you can stand a fuel range of just over 100 miles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GV_uwEAKn0
1700cc, ~200HP, V4.
Quote from: burning1 on March 24, 2011, 10:03:53 AM
I rode the new Yamaha V-Max about a year and a half ago. Unbelievably fun bike, if you can stand a fuel range of just over 100 miles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GV_uwEAKn0
1700cc, ~200HP, V4.
I cannot stand its looks or its weight or its height. The old max was just delish IMHO.
The new one looks like a lizard.
Cool.
Buddha.
Honda ST1300, Suzuki Bandit 1200-S.
No GS500, yet, but am shopping one tomorrow morning. I'll let you know.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s163/banditguy/happysoul.jpg)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s163/banditguy/hon13.jpg)
The big bikes are a hoot to ride, but I'm also wanting to add something smaller and a lot lighter to
play with on the local roads. I also have a KLR650 and like it a lot, but there are times it makes me feel like I'm riding a bar stool!
Quote from: Last1Out on March 24, 2011, 02:10:48 PM
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s163/banditguy/happysoul.jpg)
Nice Bandit...2005, last year before the change of faring...
What kind of fuel range to you get out of the average tank?
Just askin'...
Later.
I'm usually at about 170 miles when the Bandit goes on reserve. Not bad. The St is a different story, with 7.7 gallons on board my butt always calls for a break before the bike does.
I agree on the fairing, looks way better before they changed it. That's actually pretty good on fuel economy, Bandits have ~5 gallon tank right? I get to like, 145ish miles before I hit reserve, lol.
Quote from: Last1Out on March 24, 2011, 03:40:55 PM
I'm usually at about 170 miles when the Bandit goes on reserve. Not bad. The St is a different story, with 7.7 gallons on board my butt always calls for a break before the bike does.
That's not too bad...I usually stop ever hour or so, could just fill up every second stop... :thumb:
Quote from: tykho on March 24, 2011, 04:01:24 PM
I agree on the fairing, looks way better before they changed it. That's actually pretty good on fuel economy, Bandits have ~5 gallon tank right? I get to like, 145ish miles before I hit reserve, lol.
Yup...20L (5.3gal) tank...seems like new bikes have 16-17L tanks...don't go as far...I don't know why that is such a hang up for me...I guess I'm spoiled with the GS...
Later.
Quote from: madjak30 on March 24, 2011, 08:06:37 PM
Yup...20L (5.3gal) tank...seems like new bikes have 16-17L tanks...don't go as far...I don't know why that is such a hang up for me...I guess I'm spoiled with the GS...
Later.
I've had some bikes that did better than others, but I've always just filled up my tank every 100 miles so I don't even think of it anymore.
Quote from: tt_four on March 24, 2011, 08:17:38 PM
I've had some bikes that did better than others, but I've always just filled up my tank every 100 miles so I don't even think of it anymore.
Yeah, I don't know why it seems to be an issue with me...other than I'm used to not hitting reserve until 300kms(190miles)...but really I stop atleast once in the middle of that to give the bunns a break, take pictures, take a leak...??...really for touring as long as you can go 200kms (125miles) between fills, you should be fine...it's pretty rare that you have to travel any farther than that to get to the next gas station...
I'm planning on heading into the mountains this summer for a few rides, and I am hoping a couple of them can be overnighters...might just try the GS on a mountain day trip to see how it does...otherwise...
Later.
Quote from: tt_four on March 21, 2011, 08:47:25 PM
Quote from: aygee on March 21, 2011, 04:56:14 PM
Thats not a hill...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkMfI8UII2c
This is a hill!
I was just about to say, my next venture will be finding a hill that will let me get both wheels off the ground. I'll save that for a supermoto though.
there is one on a back road which in a car if you hit it at 40 tops you are flying. and mostly straight too so no uncontrolled flight. i flew on my gs's, my harley, and several cars lol
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on March 24, 2011, 11:21:19 PM
Quote from: tt_four on March 21, 2011, 08:47:25 PM
Quote from: aygee on March 21, 2011, 04:56:14 PM
Thats not a hill...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkMfI8UII2c
This is a hill!
I was just about to say, my next venture will be finding a hill that will let me get both wheels off the ground. I'll save that for a supermoto though.
there is one on a back road which in a car if you hit it at 40 tops you are flying. and mostly straight too so no uncontrolled flight. i flew on my gs's, my harley, and several cars lol
So that's what happened to your Crown Vic... :icon_twisted:
My buddy had an AMC Eagle that he made fly once...but that was off the side of the road...not intentional, but he hit the tree about eight feet up...the car never flew again... :icon_mrgreen:
His Dad bought my car off me (had two at that point), a 1982 Lada Signet that ran on propane...we called it the Russian Bomb...total piece of crap, but it ran and was tough as nails...
Later.
Tank size is an issue for me too.
Guy at works tells me he'd like to come on some of my weekend rides - but - we need to find fuel every 150km (93 miles) cause that's about as far as he can go WTF?
I've got ride routes that are 200km to 220km (125 miles) before fuel stops. One that is 180km (112 miles) and so on. He cannot come on my rides cause he can't get far enough on a tank.
THAT is why tank size is an issue to me. The smaller the tank the less Roaming Ability I have and the fewer rides are available to be taken.
Michael
THREAD REVIVAL!
Sorry but I just have to share!
Despite my license limitations and good judgement, I rode one of these tonight...
(http://forum.motorcycle-usa.com/attach.aspx/7042/2006_R1_50th_3.jpg)
All I can say is holy crapsticks Batman! :icon_lol:
My GS was the fastest bike I had ever been on previously so going from 45hp to 160hp was a spiritual experience for me!
I'm afraid that when I get my full license in April 2012... the GS will have to move out of my garage
I've got my Uncle's '87 GSX-R 1100 in storage, but it hasn't ran in the better part of five years and I can never find the time to tear it down and get it running again. Maybe some day...
Quote from: mister on March 25, 2011, 01:56:45 PM
Tank size is an issue for me too.
Guy at works tells me he'd like to come on some of my weekend rides - but - we need to find fuel every 150km (93 miles) cause that's about as far as he can go WTF?
I've got ride routes that are 200km to 220km (125 miles) before fuel stops. One that is 180km (112 miles) and so on. He cannot come on my rides cause he can't get far enough on a tank.
THAT is why tank size is an issue to me. The smaller the tank the less Roaming Ability I have and the fewer rides are available to be taken.
Michael
Found out I get 230k's till the fuel light comes lights up on my Ducati. And that is riding pretty spirited.
Was the R1 you rode one of the new cross plane ones Unsane?
Nopes it was the 2006 model - i think crossplane came in around 2009.
Even so - it was way faster than I had imagined.
Quote from: Unsane on May 18, 2011, 05:44:09 AM
THREAD REVIVAL!
Sorry but I just have to share!
Despite my license limitations and good judgement, I rode one of these tonight...
(http://forum.motorcycle-usa.com/attach.aspx/7042/2006_R1_50th_3.jpg)
All I can say is holy crapsticks Batman! :icon_lol:
My GS was the fastest bike I had ever been on previously so going from 45hp to 160hp was a spiritual experience for me!
I'm afraid that when I get my full license in April 2012... the GS will have to move out of my garage
Heh I did the same thing. One day a friend who used to have 2 '08 CBR1000RR's let me ride one for the day. Needless to say that was the fastest thing I have ever been in besides an airplane, I still only had my GS500F. I hardly even got to half throttle and was totally losing it!!! I picked up a Triumph Daytona 675 recently and it is plenty fast, in fact to fast for the street really. I'd like a liter but I kinda find it hard to justify. But I'll take a K9 GSXR 1000 sure, or a 750 :D
R1s are purrrty.
I think leading up to my GS500F replacement, you guys are gonna see a lot of posts from me about litrebikes...
Had the pleasure of riding one of these on the M4 Motorway this afternoon - gave it a big hit in 3rd and 4th
(http://www.suzukicycles.org/photos/TL/TL1000R/1998_TL1000R_yel_l-rs_520.jpg)
Ohmygod the torque of this bike is phenomenal!
Nice looking bike...but I think the riding position is too tight for me...
but nice bike!!
Later.
I have a 250, a 500, and a 750. The next step in that logical progression would be 1000, but I don't need that much bike. I don't want people telling me what I should ride so I don't tell others what they should ride, but liter+bikes are overkill as far as I'm concerned, especially those of the sport bike bent. 600cc's is all a sane person would want in a sport street bike, but that's just my opinion because I understand how dangerous the roads are. Sure, our bikes are dangerous in and of themselves, regardless of engine power, but the road is even more dangerous, so it's smart to keep your speed down, which eliminates the need for a bike that will do 160.
Quote from: bill14224 on June 19, 2011, 10:26:39 AM
I have a 250, a 500, and a 750. The next step in that logical progression would be 1000, but I don't need that much bike. I don't want people telling me what I should ride so I don't tell others what they should ride, but liter+bikes are overkill as far as I'm concerned, especially those of the sport bike bent. 600cc's is all a sane person would want in a sport street bike, but that's just my opinion because I understand how dangerous the roads are. Sure, our bikes are dangerous in and of themselves, regardless of engine power, but the road is even more dangerous, so it's smart to keep your speed down, which eliminates the need for a bike that will do 160.
Don't like being told what to ride, but then tell us all collectively what we should ride - if we were sane. Implication, ride something bigger and you're insane. But it's alright. You're not telling us what to ride, just opinion.
That old timer on the FJR 1300 touring the country with his missus on the back and luggage filled to the brim is an absolute nutter. Fancy wanting such a large bike. A 600cc should do him fine. And that 260 pound bloke over there with the big gut, even though his gut won't allow him on any other bike bar a cruiser, he should go get himself a 650 VStar so he can enjoy his cross country jaunt. He won't have any troubles passing cars if he needs to. Sounds like You need to petition the bike makers to only make 600cc motorbikes so we can all be saved - and forced into sanity.
Next time you say you don't like people telling you what to ride, shut up after that point cause whether you call it Opinion or not you are then telling people what to ride - being hypocritical. And putting in small hints about anything other than what You say means the person is Insane or not Smart. So by your standards, riding a Honda 919 makes me a Dumb Insane person. Hmmm.
Understand, people have a varying array of Needs when it comes to the motorcycle they ride. Straight-line Speed is just One Small Factor among many - comfort, seating capacity, range, looks, torque, seat-to-tank clearance, seat height, wind deflection, handling, luggage capacity, etc.
Michael
Quote from: mister on June 19, 2011, 12:02:55 PM
Quote from: bill14224 on June 19, 2011, 10:26:39 AM
I have a 250, a 500, and a 750. The next step in that logical progression would be 1000, but I don't need that much bike. I don't want people telling me what I should ride so I don't tell others what they should ride, but liter+bikes are overkill as far as I'm concerned, especially those of the sport bike bent. 600cc's is all a sane person would want in a sport street bike, but that's just my opinion because I understand how dangerous the roads are. Sure, our bikes are dangerous in and of themselves, regardless of engine power, but the road is even more dangerous, so it's smart to keep your speed down, which eliminates the need for a bike that will do 160.
Don't like being told what to ride, but then tell us all collectively what we should ride - if we were sane. Implication, ride something bigger and you're insane. But it's alright. You're not telling us what to ride, just opinion.
That old timer on the FJR 1300 touring the country with his missus on the back and luggage filled to the brim is an absolute nutter. Fancy wanting such a large bike. A 600cc should do him fine. And that 260 pound bloke over there with the big gut, even though his gut won't allow him on any other bike bar a cruiser, he should go get himself a 650 VStar so he can enjoy his cross country jaunt. He won't have any troubles passing cars if he needs to. Sounds like You need to petition the bike makers to only make 600cc motorbikes so we can all be saved - and forced into sanity.
Next time you say you don't like people telling you what to ride, shut up after that point cause whether you call it Opinion or not you are then telling people what to ride - being hypocritical. And putting in small hints about anything other than what You say means the person is Insane or not Smart. So by your standards, riding a Honda 919 makes me a Dumb Insane person. Hmmm.
Understand, people have a varying array of Needs when it comes to the motorcycle they ride. Straight-line Speed is just One Small Factor among many - comfort, seating capacity, range, looks, torque, seat-to-tank clearance, seat height, wind deflection, handling, luggage capacity, etc.
Michael
I think someone got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning...he's right, they are overkill and not needed...but if everyone beleived that, Ferrari wouldn't sell a single vehicle...same goes with Porsche, Lamborghini...even the "sensible" brands sell overkill vehicles...Corvette, Camaro, Mustang, Challenger, M3, S4, R8...etc...his thinking isn't wrong, it's just not for everyone...and yes, how he said it did come across a little hypocritical, but I don't think it was meant that way...
No sense in getting our panties in a bunch... :thumb:
Later.
Well, on the flip-side of all this hilarious sarcasm, hypocrisy and point making, I can quite happily admit that I am not entirely sane and I definitely do need this much power... possibly more.
Every day I continually reminded how dangerous the road can, how dangerous motorcycle riding can be and after belting around on an R1 and the TLR, I understand that they are animals that need to be treated with respect - a lot more respect than the humble GS anyway!
Further to this, at 6"5 & 120kg, many of the sports bikes are more comfortable for me (seat height, handlebar reach, etc) and the power-to-weight loss is not so noticeable when you have 180hp on tap.
If a litre-bike is excessive to you then I respect your POV and thats cool with me! Thats one less potential buyer I have to compete with when I get my full license!
Quote from: madjak30 on June 19, 2011, 10:05:44 PM
Quote from: mister on June 19, 2011, 12:02:55 PM
Quote from: bill14224 on June 19, 2011, 10:26:39 AM
I have a 250, a 500, and a 750. The next step in that logical progression would be 1000, but I don't need that much bike. I don't want people telling me what I should ride so I don't tell others what they should ride, but liter+bikes are overkill as far as I'm concerned, especially those of the sport bike bent. 600cc's is all a sane person would want in a sport street bike, but that's just my opinion because I understand how dangerous the roads are. Sure, our bikes are dangerous in and of themselves, regardless of engine power, but the road is even more dangerous, so it's smart to keep your speed down, which eliminates the need for a bike that will do 160.
Don't like being told what to ride, but then tell us all collectively what we should ride - if we were sane. Implication, ride something bigger and you're insane. But it's alright. You're not telling us what to ride, just opinion.
That old timer on the FJR 1300 touring the country with his missus on the back and luggage filled to the brim is an absolute nutter. Fancy wanting such a large bike. A 600cc should do him fine. And that 260 pound bloke over there with the big gut, even though his gut won't allow him on any other bike bar a cruiser, he should go get himself a 650 VStar so he can enjoy his cross country jaunt. He won't have any troubles passing cars if he needs to. Sounds like You need to petition the bike makers to only make 600cc motorbikes so we can all be saved - and forced into sanity.
Next time you say you don't like people telling you what to ride, shut up after that point cause whether you call it Opinion or not you are then telling people what to ride - being hypocritical. And putting in small hints about anything other than what You say means the person is Insane or not Smart. So by your standards, riding a Honda 919 makes me a Dumb Insane person. Hmmm.
Understand, people have a varying array of Needs when it comes to the motorcycle they ride. Straight-line Speed is just One Small Factor among many - comfort, seating capacity, range, looks, torque, seat-to-tank clearance, seat height, wind deflection, handling, luggage capacity, etc.
Michael
I think someone got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning...he's right, they are overkill and not needed...but if everyone beleived that, Ferrari wouldn't sell a single vehicle...same goes with Porsche, Lamborghini...even the "sensible" brands sell overkill vehicles...Corvette, Camaro, Mustang, Challenger, M3, S4, R8...etc...his thinking isn't wrong, it's just not for everyone...and yes, how he said it did come across a little hypocritical, but I don't think it was meant that way...
No sense in getting our panties in a bunch... :thumb:
Later.
Funny, I had an sarcasm tag there when I posted but it's now gone. Oh well. :dunno_black:
I can fully accept that a liter bike is not for everyone. I can fully accept some people think anything over 600cc is overkill. And if someone says such, then fine. However, I am finely attuned to manipulative word usage - it stands out to me like a sore thumb. And when I see it I call it out. Expose it. I similarly spot hypocrisy a mile off. And I'll call it out. There's no wrong side of the bed or knicker knotting going on. Merely calling out such manipulative language and hypocrisy is all. :cheers:
Michael
I've been tootling around on a CBR1100XX recently, it's a bit of a mind bender compared to the GS.....it's no sports bike, but it is insanely quick once it lifts it's skirts and starts to hustle.
Wasn't the CBR1100XX the fastest production bike prior to the introduction of the Hayabusa?
Quote from: tykho on June 20, 2011, 09:35:08 AM
Wasn't the CBR1100XX the fastest production bike prior to the introduction of the Hayabusa?
By about 1 mph for a year or so -Most of the decade before that belonged to the ZX11.
Was in the lead for a bit longer than that....... Suzuki named the Hayabusa after a falcon that preys on Blackbirds...
Blackbird came out in 96/97 Hayabusa in 99 (end of 98).
So... a bit longer = a year (which = "or so"...to me anyway ).
Ride what you like - know your limits - be happy.
Quote from: Jared on June 20, 2011, 01:27:38 PM
Ride what you like - know your limits - be happy.
Gotta agree with that.....wasn't trying to get into a pissing contest about which was the fastest bike either...there are faster and more powerful bikes out there. The bird is an interesting thing to ride because of the way that power is delivered, it's not brutal like other liter class bikes that I've ridden....it is an absolute kitty cat cat at low rpm, almost to the point of being disappointing. The motor is turbine smooth, there is almost no vibration feedback through the seat or bars to let you know whether you are doing 2000 or 10000 rpm. Ran it upon the dyno over the weekend...145rwhp - if it wasn't for the banshee howl from the exhaust and dyno brake you wouldn't have known that the engine was working at all.
The long wheel base makes it immensely stable, it feels cumbersome in the twists at first but once you learn to trust the chassis it is surprisingly agile. The linked brakes mean that it squats, rather than dives under braking which is yet another quirk to get used to.
Quote from: mister on June 20, 2011, 02:15:31 AM
Quote from: madjak30 on June 19, 2011, 10:05:44 PM
Quote from: mister on June 19, 2011, 12:02:55 PM
Quote from: bill14224 on June 19, 2011, 10:26:39 AM
I have a 250, a 500, and a 750. The next step in that logical progression would be 1000, but I don't need that much bike. I don't want people telling me what I should ride so I don't tell others what they should ride, but liter+bikes are overkill as far as I'm concerned, especially those of the sport bike bent. 600cc's is all a sane person would want in a sport street bike, but that's just my opinion because I understand how dangerous the roads are. Sure, our bikes are dangerous in and of themselves, regardless of engine power, but the road is even more dangerous, so it's smart to keep your speed down, which eliminates the need for a bike that will do 160.
Don't like being told what to ride, but then tell us all collectively what we should ride - if we were sane. Implication, ride something bigger and you're insane. But it's alright. You're not telling us what to ride, just opinion.
That old timer on the FJR 1300 touring the country with his missus on the back and luggage filled to the brim is an absolute nutter. Fancy wanting such a large bike. A 600cc should do him fine. And that 260 pound bloke over there with the big gut, even though his gut won't allow him on any other bike bar a cruiser, he should go get himself a 650 VStar so he can enjoy his cross country jaunt. He won't have any troubles passing cars if he needs to. Sounds like You need to petition the bike makers to only make 600cc motorbikes so we can all be saved - and forced into sanity.
Next time you say you don't like people telling you what to ride, shut up after that point cause whether you call it Opinion or not you are then telling people what to ride - being hypocritical. And putting in small hints about anything other than what You say means the person is Insane or not Smart. So by your standards, riding a Honda 919 makes me a Dumb Insane person. Hmmm.
Understand, people have a varying array of Needs when it comes to the motorcycle they ride. Straight-line Speed is just One Small Factor among many - comfort, seating capacity, range, looks, torque, seat-to-tank clearance, seat height, wind deflection, handling, luggage capacity, etc.
Michael
I think someone got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning...he's right, they are overkill and not needed...but if everyone beleived that, Ferrari wouldn't sell a single vehicle...same goes with Porsche, Lamborghini...even the "sensible" brands sell overkill vehicles...Corvette, Camaro, Mustang, Challenger, M3, S4, R8...etc...his thinking isn't wrong, it's just not for everyone...and yes, how he said it did come across a little hypocritical, but I don't think it was meant that way...
No sense in getting our panties in a bunch... :thumb:
Later.
Funny, I had an sarcasm tag there when I posted but it's now gone. Oh well. :dunno_black:
I can fully accept that a liter bike is not for everyone. I can fully accept some people think anything over 600cc is overkill. And if someone says such, then fine. However, I am finely attuned to manipulative word usage - it stands out to me like a sore thumb. And when I see it I call it out. Expose it. I similarly spot hypocrisy a mile off. And I'll call it out. There's no wrong side of the bed or knicker knotting going on. Merely calling out such manipulative language and hypocrisy is all. :cheers:
Michael
Didn't mean to convey that meaning. Ride what you want, but the facts show that the more hp you ride the more you don't make it home, young or old, because people who want to go fast gravitate toward more powerful bikes and speed kills. Sure, some are mature, experienced, and can resist temptation, but they are in the minority and those aren't those I was trying to address. I wouldn't expect someone in that group to think I was addressing them and wouldn't expect a reply. I wouldn't expect someone from the BMW K-1200 crowd cruising at 65 to think I was talking about them. If you can always resist the temptation to "wring it out a little" whatever bike you ride, you're a better man than me.
If not, I am addressing you, because your skill will fail at sooner than I'd like and you will get injured or killed. I knew several great guys who are no longer with us because they thought they could wring it out and make it home and they were wrong. Should I think you're better? Maybe, but probably not. Most people want more bike than they think they want/need, because of marketing, and that's what I'm talking about. Most are younger. We are set in our ways, it's the rest I'm trying to talk to. The lust for big bikes overshadows the goodness of middle size bikes. It's been that way since I swung a leg over these things long ago and it bothers me to no end. I admit that. And no, a 600cc is not right for two-up touring. Never meant to convey that either. I have a 750 triple for that and that thing will carry your fat ass no matter how big you are at any reasonable speed, as long as your idea of reasonable speed is under 110.
And I live in a place where people are constantly trying to push me into bigger bikes. Keep that in mind. I didn't mention that here, sorry. If it seems like I'm pushing back, that's why. And I thought I conveyed that I would never advocate any legislation limiting what people can ride. If you think I'm being a bully on this, take a look at what your local government has cooked-up. There are always dozens of anti-motorcycling bills on the docket. I'm trying to fight against it!
But you know what? After re-reading what I wrote three times I don't take any of it back. You should pay closer attention. If you still take offense, you are probably the high-risk rider I'm talking about.
Quote from: Jared on June 20, 2011, 11:31:27 AM
Quote from: tykho on June 20, 2011, 09:35:08 AM
Wasn't the CBR1100XX the fastest production bike prior to the introduction of the Hayabusa?
By about 1 mph for a year or so -Most of the decade before that belonged to the ZX11.
agreed. if you can handle a litrebike. go for it. just ride responsibly. btw not many had mentioned the zx14? wonder why?
Quote from: bill14224 on June 20, 2011, 04:44:31 PM
Quote from: mister on June 20, 2011, 02:15:31 AM
Quote from: madjak30 on June 19, 2011, 10:05:44 PM
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Quote from: bill14224 on June 19, 2011, 10:26:39 AM
I have a 250, a 500, and a 750. The next step in that logical progression would be 1000, but I don't need that much bike. I don't want people telling me what I should ride so I don't tell others what they should ride, but liter+bikes are overkill as far as I'm concerned, especially those of the sport bike bent. 600cc's is all a sane person would want in a sport street bike, but that's just my opinion because I understand how dangerous the roads are. Sure, our bikes are dangerous in and of themselves, regardless of engine power, but the road is even more dangerous, so it's smart to keep your speed down, which eliminates the need for a bike that will do 160.
Don't like being told what to ride, but then tell us all collectively what we should ride - if we were sane. Implication, ride something bigger and you're insane. But it's alright. You're not telling us what to ride, just opinion.
That old timer on the FJR 1300 touring the country with his missus on the back and luggage filled to the brim is an absolute nutter. Fancy wanting such a large bike. A 600cc should do him fine. And that 260 pound bloke over there with the big gut, even though his gut won't allow him on any other bike bar a cruiser, he should go get himself a 650 VStar so he can enjoy his cross country jaunt. He won't have any troubles passing cars if he needs to. Sounds like You need to petition the bike makers to only make 600cc motorbikes so we can all be saved - and forced into sanity.
Next time you say you don't like people telling you what to ride, shut up after that point cause whether you call it Opinion or not you are then telling people what to ride - being hypocritical. And putting in small hints about anything other than what You say means the person is Insane or not Smart. So by your standards, riding a Honda 919 makes me a Dumb Insane person. Hmmm.
Understand, people have a varying array of Needs when it comes to the motorcycle they ride. Straight-line Speed is just One Small Factor among many - comfort, seating capacity, range, looks, torque, seat-to-tank clearance, seat height, wind deflection, handling, luggage capacity, etc.
Michael
I think someone got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning...he's right, they are overkill and not needed...but if everyone beleived that, Ferrari wouldn't sell a single vehicle...same goes with Porsche, Lamborghini...even the "sensible" brands sell overkill vehicles...Corvette, Camaro, Mustang, Challenger, M3, S4, R8...etc...his thinking isn't wrong, it's just not for everyone...and yes, how he said it did come across a little hypocritical, but I don't think it was meant that way...
No sense in getting our panties in a bunch... :thumb:
Later.
Funny, I had an sarcasm tag there when I posted but it's now gone. Oh well. :dunno_black:
I can fully accept that a liter bike is not for everyone. I can fully accept some people think anything over 600cc is overkill. And if someone says such, then fine. However, I am finely attuned to manipulative word usage - it stands out to me like a sore thumb. And when I see it I call it out. Expose it. I similarly spot hypocrisy a mile off. And I'll call it out. There's no wrong side of the bed or knicker knotting going on. Merely calling out such manipulative language and hypocrisy is all. :cheers:
Michael
Didn't mean to convey that meaning. Ride what you want, but the facts show that the more hp you ride the more you don't make it home, young or old, because people who want to go fast gravitate toward more powerful bikes and speed kills. Sure, some are mature, experienced, and can resist temptation, but they are in the minority and those aren't those I was trying to address. I wouldn't expect someone in that group to think I was addressing them and wouldn't expect a reply. I wouldn't expect someone from the BMW K-1200 crowd cruising at 65 to think I was talking about them. If you can always resist the temptation to "wring it out a little" whatever bike you ride, you're a better man than me.
If not, I am addressing you, because your skill will fail at sooner than I'd like and you will get injured or killed. I knew several great guys who are no longer with us because they thought they could wring it out and make it home and they were wrong. Should I think you're better? Maybe, but probably not. Most people want more bike than they think they want/need, because of marketing, and that's what I'm talking about. Most are younger. We are set in our ways, it's the rest I'm trying to talk to. The lust for big bikes overshadows the goodness of middle size bikes. It's been that way since I swung a leg over these things long ago and it bothers me to no end. I admit that. And no, a 600cc is not right for two-up touring. Never meant to convey that either. I have a 750 triple for that and that thing will carry your fat ass no matter how big you are at any reasonable speed, as long as your idea of reasonable speed is under 110.
And I live in a place where people are constantly trying to push me into bigger bikes. Keep that in mind. I didn't mention that here, sorry. If it seems like I'm pushing back, that's why. And I thought I conveyed that I would never advocate any legislation limiting what people can ride. If you think I'm being a bully on this, take a look at what your local government has cooked-up. There are always dozens of anti-motorcycling bills on the docket. I'm trying to fight against it!
But you know what? After re-reading what I wrote three times I don't take any of it back. You should pay closer attention. If you still take offense, you are probably the high-risk rider I'm talking about.
Thank you for clarifying. And I do agree.
I sometimes ride with a group who, you could say, are more into racing the bike than riding it. I'll just hang on back and wave bye bye as they disappear in the distance. I'll do my own thing and then pull up at the designated stop a few minutes behind and we can then socialize. Time to go, repeat, they disappear and I eventually turn up at the next stop. A few have even commented that they don't mind riding behind me cause I am Solid and know how to handle a bike without pushing it. Yet, if the group is zooming off, then those same people go too while I keep being Solid. I quite enjoy Pace Riding and feel no peer pressure to accelerate to corners, slam on the breaks to within moments of losing traction, taking the lean to the limits and then Zoom off to the next corner. Such riding does nothing for me. I think more skill is required to Pace Ride along a road.
The days of "You meet the nicest people on a Honda" are gone. Marketing, televised superbikes, etc., creates urges for Super Sport bikes where a basic Street Bike would more than suffice.
When I got my 919 someone asked why, because you cannot do 200kph on it without being blown around like buggery. Why would I want to do 200kph? I don't do track days and there is no speed limit that high anywhere. They didn't understand how I could happily not go that fast anywhere.
I like to think it's a Maturity of some description. But I don't know, some of these "racers" are middle age and you'd think they would be mature enough to know better. Then again, if they are Into that culture...
Michael
That's my attitude as well...some of the guys I ride with are on the SS bikes (R1, CBR1000RR, ZX11) and if they want to go, they go...I also get the "why do you ride naked bikes?" questions with the implication if it being uncomfortable to ride at 200kph+...my answer is, why would I be going that fast for more than a few seconds?? (I have my immature moments :embarrassed: ) I tend to ride at the speed limit (+10%), so my only reason for getting a bigger bike (or it could just be me wanting a bigger bike) was that the GS had trouble keeping the pace when it was very windy or the hills are steep without having to ride in 4th gear all the time...I wanted the extra torque...the Hp didn't matter to me...(the extra leg room helped as well)
As for age being an indicator of maturity...some of the guys I ride with are in their early 20s and are quite mature...I know others (not pointing any fingers...Jay) that are in their mid-40s and still don't see anything wrong with how they ride (aggressive...high speed...SQUIDDY!!)...maybe Peter Pan syndrome?? or maybe they are invincible?? I'm not, so I try to ride with the thought of going home to see my kids... :thumb:
Later.
ive been accused of both riding, and driving like grandpa. ( with a few obvious exceptions :nono: ) well grandpa being SL +10-15%. hteyre like, dude your slow. im like well, im still here, and my bike has never been wrecked. and i dont have any road rash either. i hope it stays that way. i had hte power IF i needed it. rode my gs to GA and back as well as my sportster. 416 miles each way. in one day
Quote from: bill14224 on June 19, 2011, 10:26:39 AM
[...]so it's smart to keep your speed down, which eliminates the need for a bike that will do 160.
especially like the Busa, which will do 100 in first gear (or so I've heard)
I would LOVE to have a Honda 919. That thing is right in my wheelhouse from a pure riding perspective, and I'm not even partial to Hondas in general, but that is one sweet bike! But I know myself.
Clint Eastwood said "a man needs to know his limitations". If I had a 919 or anything similar I couldn't resist the urge to wring it out once in a while, like I said, but I've never been a highly skilled rider in my own mind. The hair on the back my neck and arms stands-up when I get to the point some are completely willing and eager to cross. My patience and wisdom, whatever there is of it, is my best asset. I stay cool in emergencies too. Everything slows down when I have a crisis in front of me. Don't ask me why, other than instinct for self-preservation I have no idea other than all that dirt riding I did as a kid. That is why I tell everyone MSF is great but dirt riding experience is gold as it teaches control, especially in bad traction situations. I can't do wheelies while standing on the seat, nor would I want to. I wouldn't even think of it, even when I was young. I just know what's best for my relative safety, and that is 50-80 hp, depending on bike weight, and of course the less weight the better as you can turn and stop more quickly in general.
From your description, I ride just like you in packs. I also prefer to hang back. In fact I'd rather not ride in packs at all and I bet you feel the same. I want distance around me while I ride, and riding in packs is very dangerous as everyone's head has to be in the same place or you can have several bikes crashing at once due to one rider's screw-up in front. It's hard to not get excited while riding with your friends, and that can spell disaster. We can all make a list of names at our age.
I am half mature, half teenager. My reactions are still quick, but my strength is fading. I limit my teenager by limiting myself to 100 mph bikes. Sure I'd like my GS to have more grunt, but that's really it. 10,000 rpm is pretty satisfying with almost 50 hp and it keeps me in one piece, and my GS will cruise down the interstate at 80 comfortably until I run out of gas. I also want to keep my license and not pay big insurance premiums. My GS keeps me just on the safe side of that, although it's still easy to get in trouble, but I can deal with that. We have unreasonably low speed limits here, like New Jersey. It's sooo easy to get in trouble, even with our "weak" GS.
Quote from: ragecage23 on June 22, 2011, 09:49:48 AM
especially like the Busa, which will do 100 in first gear (or so I've heard)
Doesn't even have to be something that big. I know that 04 zx10r would do 115 in first gear, and I'm pretty sure the bmw s1000r will do over 100 in first. I woulnd't be surprised if a few other other liter bikes do as well now, but I haven't ridden any to know.
If more bikes were Twins I'd be happier on smaller bikes, but most of the sportier bikes are I4s, which is fine, but this crazy 150+ hp everyone talks about is at 12k rpm, and I'm not the kind of person who likes to ride around at those rpms. If I want a bike with a stiff frame, adjustable suspension and light weight, a supersport is your best option, and if you plan to use that bike in normal riding situations where you may spend the majority of your time riding at 4k rpm, you'll probably be happier on a 1000cc bike because at those engine speeds you're probably only putting out 40-60hp, which is still a perfectly sane power level. I'd be perfectly happy with the 100-120hp you can get out of a 600, but I'd never get to use it because I have no desire to ride a bike around at redline.
@tt_four...you already have your ideal twin...I would have bought a bike just like yours, but I found it a little tight for me...so I got the bigger Japanese version...that you can't get there... :icon_twisted: :icon_razz: :icon_twisted:
Although, now the wifey is saying that she might like to go for a ride...I guess I'll see how a passenger works on my bike... :embarrassed: ...not the right bike for two up, but it's what I have... :dunno_black:
Maybe a Concours 14 ABS is in the future...but not too soon, I just luv the torque of this thing...mine's the silver with blue frame...
http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/photos/2006models/2006models-Yamaha-MT-01.htm
Maybe if she likes riding, she will want her own bike...that would be ideal...
Later.
Quote from: madjak30 on June 24, 2011, 09:09:15 AM
@tt_four...you already have your ideal twin...I would have bought a bike just like yours, but I found it a little tight for me...so I got the bigger Japanese version...that you can't get there... :icon_twisted: :icon_razz: :icon_twisted:
Although, now the wifey is saying that she might like to go for a ride...I guess I'll see how a passenger works on my bike... :embarrassed: ...not the right bike for two up, but it's what I have... :dunno_black:
Maybe a Concours 14 ABS is in the future...but not too soon, I just luv the torque of this thing...mine's the silver with blue frame...
http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/photos/2006models/2006models-Yamaha-MT-01.htm
Maybe if she likes riding, she will want her own bike...that would be ideal...
Later.
might see how had it would be to bring one into the states. did pick up a canadian gsxr 1k. wiht the cannadian market only color scheme at hte time. for a friend of mine. might be pricy. but then again. having the ONLY one around is a nice thing sometims
Quote from: madjak30 on June 24, 2011, 09:09:15 AM
@tt_four...you already have your ideal twin...I would have bought a bike just like yours, but I found it a little tight for me...so I got the bigger Japanese version...that you can't get there... :icon_twisted: :icon_razz: :icon_twisted:
I know I know, but I've actually got it for sale! It's a great bike but I'm ready to try something new. It just doesn't have the power it should have for a 1000cc bike. Wheelies are harder in 1st gear than on a 600cc bike, and barely even possible in 2nd, and even though it's torquey they geared the bike super low to get it that way. My 1st gear only goes to 45, and top(5th) gear is only geared to 138-140. That's faster that I've ever even tried to take the bike, BUT being geared that low just makes it uncomfortable for cruising on the highway at 70-80mph. Eventually I'm gonna find a gsxr750, or some random 1000cc I4, gear it down to 150-160mph so it's still torquey in the low end/midrange but still fine at highway speeds, and strip it naked. It won't have the same personality but it'll still work well. It might've been enough had I bought an xb12 from the start, but who knows. More importantly, I REALLY want a supermoto right now, it's pretty much all I'm concerned with at this point haha. I've got some bike money but everything I've seen that I like is usually about $500-1000 more than I have. I motorcycle you can't ride up steps and jump over railroad tracks can only amuse someone for so long.
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on June 24, 2011, 10:56:39 PM
might see how had it would be to bring one into the states. did pick up a canadian gsxr 1k. wiht the cannadian market only color scheme at hte time. for a friend of mine. might be pricy. but then again. having the ONLY one around is a nice thing sometims
Wouldn't it have been easier just to buy a new tank/bodywork from a canadian model?
at the time not really. there was a guy in suburban toronto who wanted an american painted one. we had gotten the paperwork done already so it was delivery and swap. i want to get an xb9 and put xb12 heads, cylinders on one. along with my supercharger i made for my sportster. easily done. drive to super attaches to the crank bolt.
Quote from: madjak30 on June 24, 2011, 09:09:15 AM
@tt_four...you already have your ideal twin...I would have bought a bike just like yours, but I found it a little tight for me...so I got the bigger Japanese version...that you can't get there... :icon_twisted: :icon_razz: :icon_twisted:
Although, now the wifey is saying that she might like to go for a ride...I guess I'll see how a passenger works on my bike... :embarrassed: ...not the right bike for two up, but it's what I have... :dunno_black:
Maybe a Concours 14 ABS is in the future...but not too soon, I just luv the torque of this thing...mine's the silver with blue frame...
http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/photos/2006models/2006models-Yamaha-MT-01.htm
Maybe if she likes riding, she will want her own bike...that would be ideal...
Later.
That's pretty much my thinking. If I decided to get out of the self-imposed envelope I put myself in for many years I would opt for a Coucours for touring with my gal and an SV650 to ride by myself. Yeah, I know, I can handle the SV just fine, but I love this little GS too much to get rid of it!
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on June 30, 2011, 10:51:14 PM
i want to get an xb9 and put xb12 heads, cylinders on one. along with my supercharger i made for my sportster. easily done. drive to super attaches to the crank bolt.
They have the same cylinders and heads. The only difference between the xb9 and xb12 motors is the crankshaft, piston, and primary. The difference in displacement is just because of the different strokes between the crankshafts. The pistons make up the differences to compression and the different primaries are needed because the longer stroke on the xb12 means it has a lower redline, so they had to gear the motor taller so it would still go the same speeds. Some guys like to put the xb9 pistons in their xb12 for higher compression, and a lot of guys also like to put the xb9 primaries in their xb12 to lower the gearing and get more torque, but the cylinders should still be the same.
Got myself onto a 2000 model Honda VFR800 today at lunchtime... I am seriously considering this bike for my next step up!
Enough power to get you airborne in 1st or hard shifting into 2nd - but really useable torque all throughout the rev range - and the V4 howl sounds sweet (Staintune slip-on fitted)
(http://www.mcnews.com.au/testing/VFR/VFR800_Red_RHF_600p.jpg)
Not as mental as the R1 and definitely not as torquey as the TLR - but the riding position on those two is just too aggressive for me and I reckon I could happily commute all week on the VFR!
Would probably go for the later model as they are said to have better low end response and economy with its VTEC system
A buddy of mine is touring on his...he is in Vegas right now (from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada)...and is planning on coming home up the west coast then back through the Rockys...he loves his VFR and says that if it craters, he'll just find another one...and I think Gerry is about 5'9 to 5'10 ish...so average height...his bike is an '02 VFR800 (not sure if that is the last year before VTEC or the first year of it??)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-G9moOAGjyr8/Tb4VWQZH0hI/AAAAAAAAA_A/QSKp8BSPgXU/s800/IMAG00085.JPG)
Later.
If you get a viffer, get a 2000-2001, FI, and still has the gear driven cams. I'm also not a fan of the VTEC.
I prefer the look of the 2002 onwards models over the early shape
(http://www.themotorreport.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/honda-vfr800-2009-02-thumb.jpg)(http://www.themotorreport.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/honda-vfr800-2009-01-thumb.jpg)
The VTEC is kinda cool though - it closes off one intake valve and one exhaust valve in each cylinder under 6000 for better response, torque and fuel economy (and NVH), then opens them up when you need the power, induction noise and couldn't care less about mpg! Agreed, gear driven cams are preferred and they sound horny as well - but I think manufacturers (especially Honda) would have had a reliable cam chain sorted by the time this one was built. I have read that the VTEC can be a little worrying when it kicks in mid-corner or mid-wheelie though!
Those VFRs are definitely good looking bikes.
My friend let me borrow his DRZsm for the week. It's a fun bike but I forgot how unimpressive 35hp can be haha. Definitely makes like the idea of a zx10r ever more for when I want to move fast.
Don't own a liter, only 95.4 percent of one.
Yep still around and still have the old 954. Probably gonna sell the sportbikes though, we are getting ready to buy a vacation home in New Orleans
954RR ftw!
Liter bike you say?
Yeah, I own a couple of em'
But it doesn't make much difference, I ride like an old hen whether I'm on a moped or a Busa.
Did I get the question right? (http://mysite.verizon.net/vze2wc9e/hmm.gif)
Thanks,
-Ej-
Quote from: tt_four on July 03, 2011, 08:00:55 AM
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on June 30, 2011, 10:51:14 PM
i want to get an xb9 and put xb12 heads, cylinders on one. along with my supercharger i made for my sportster. easily done. drive to super attaches to the crank bolt.
They have the same cylinders and heads. The only difference between the xb9 and xb12 motors is the crankshaft, piston, and primary. The difference in displacement is just because of the different strokes between the crankshafts. The pistons make up the differences to compression and the different primaries are needed because the longer stroke on the xb12 means it has a lower redline, so they had to gear the motor taller so it would still go the same speeds. Some guys like to put the xb9 pistons in their xb12 for higher compression, and a lot of guys also like to put the xb9 primaries in their xb12 to lower the gearing and get more torque, but the cylinders should still be the same.
actually no. ( i am crted for these . the CS is same. heads are same almsot. to swqap one would need ONLY xb12 hcys and pistons. everythign else wil swap over. up to an dincluding 88CI jugs and psitons. the xb series is based upon the sportster plants. BUT wiht higher compression etc. cool thing abtou these units ar ethat its EASY to add a supercharger to it. EASY. anyho to change displacement ONLY one needs the cys and pistons. gearing OTOH is an hour swap tops :) ONLY hting i dislike about FI HD is that its not adustible by yourself without resorting to a power commander or somehting like this. BTW hte BAS is easily defeated. if it malfunctions, carry a paperclip with you. you cna jump 2 terminals and hte BAS never existed ;)
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a127/GTRVspec95/EpicThreadRevival_motivator5470661.jpg)
Bought a new bike last night...
It's still a Suzuki...
It's still got only two cylinders...
But its twice the capacity...
Can you guess what it is?
Sv1000 or a TLR
TL1000R :cheers:
Pics soon
Nice I have only seen them in yellow. What colour is yours?
Quote from: ragecage23 on March 22, 2011, 09:30:41 AM
They can also go bad then good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtjQ4SK4GXk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiH2uLGSBOw
I love TLRs! Great looking bikes. I'd love to have a TLS someday
Quote from: Unsane on February 24, 2012, 07:54:54 PM
TL1000R :cheers:
Pics soon
What happened to the VFR idea?
Quote from: Twisted on February 24, 2012, 11:18:10 PM
What happened to the VFR idea?
I still think they are a great looking bike and the engine is sweet - I still might even get one...
... picked up the TL extremely cheap as it has an engine knock and the previous owner was not up for fixing it.
Even if a replacement engine costs me 2K i will still make $$$ selling it.
Would really like a ZX14 though
Quote from: Unsane on February 25, 2012, 04:58:04 PM
I still think they are a great looking bike and the engine is sweet - I still might even get one...
... picked up the TL extremely cheap as it has an engine knock and the previous owner was not up for fixing it.
Even if a replacement engine costs me 2K i will still make $$$ selling it.
The pics? What happened to the pics? :dunno_black:
We Want Pics! (http://fun.resplace.net/Emoticons/Fighting/WWE.gif) We want pics!
No pics yet - the bike is being delivered this weekend - keep calm y'all