So I have a HJC full face helmet and use a tinted visor. However, the tinted visors are illegal here in Michigan. In the past I have had run in's with the law regarding window tinting on my car so I want to avoid silly pull overs such as a tinted visor while riding my GS.
Is it silly to wear sunglasses when using a full face helmet (clear visor)? Any suggestions on legal visors? I'm in Michigan.
Tinted visors are ILLEGAL? Thats ridiculous. I wear glasses so wearing a pair of sunglasses shouldnt be an issue. However for all MI riders with glasses who cant wear sunglasses are forced to be blinded by the sun and no tinted visor? That doesnt sound safe to me.....
Rant over, just wear sunglasses, i see people do it all the time.
No tinted visors?! That's ridiculous. They've probably had problems with people crashing in them at night, and even though it's obviously illegal to wear them at night, I know plenty of people who wear them during the day, and then evening comes and they don't have any choice but to keep wearing it because they don't have another with them.
I picked out a pair of glasses with a magnetic sunglass attachment. I thought it would be a huge help but they do something weird to your vision and I couldn't ever wear them without getting a headache. The sunglasses interacted with the helmet visor and turned everything a weird color. For a while I just put a strip of electrical tape across the top of my visor and then would pull it off when the sun went down.
Other than that, your best option is to get a helmet with a built in sun visor. I just got an HJC FS10(on sale at motorcycle superstore for $140 if they still have them, msrp is $250). Great helmet. Not as comfy as my old one but the drop down visor makes life much better and I don't see any reason you'd get hassled with it on.
My eyes are soo light sensitive that I have to wear sunglasses with a tinted visor. Granted I wear the sunglasses that are polarized so the difference between full sun and my sunglasses is not that significant. I actually have a prescription for 20% glass on my cars.
Well, i'm in finland and tinted visors are no way illegal in here. But no, i don't wear sunglasses with my full face helmet. I've got an Airoh TR2, which has two visors, one clear and one tinted. Here's a pic of mine.
(http://album.sekavaa.net/airoh.jpg)
Well I don't know. A colleague said they got pulled while riding and the cop told them that the tinted visors are a ticketed offense. I'm trying to find the actual rule on this at the moment. No need for me to change out my visor over something that is not real (or that the cops really just don't care if your wearing one).
Quote from: GynZi on April 21, 2011, 12:04:40 PM
Well, i'm in finland and tinted visors are no way illegal in here. But no, i don't wear sunglasses with my full face helmet. I've got an Airoh TR2, which has two visors, one clear and one tinted. Here's a pic of mine.
Awesome!
Quote from: plewis51 on April 21, 2011, 12:06:48 PM
Quote from: GynZi on April 21, 2011, 12:04:40 PM
Well, i'm in finland and tinted visors are no way illegal in here. But no, i don't wear sunglasses with my full face helmet. I've got an Airoh TR2, which has two visors, one clear and one tinted. Here's a pic of mine.
Awesome!
Indeed. That's a great helmet because i can wear it on day and night, if it gets too dark i don't have to remove the tinted visor and install a clear one, but i can just lift up the inner visor and then i can see again.
I wear normal glasses under my full-face helmet and have a tinted visor. it's not the most comfortable setup, but it can work. it's a bit of a pain having to remove your glasses whenever you put on/take off your helmet.
Silly or not, I almost always wear sunglasses with a full face helmet. Here in WA it is illegal to not have eye protection. So if you are in town, riding with your visor up, and you do not have glasses or other eye protection, they can stop you. For me however I wear them mostly because I wear contacts and the wrap around sunglasses help to keep my eyes from getting dried out due to the wind. Even with my visor down the wind that comes from the chin of my helmet irritates my eyes. When I rode to California I wore clear protective glasses in the early morning and night for the same reason.
No i dont, the arms to the sunglasses dig into the side of my head.. not very comfortable. Get the light-smoke shield. Not too dark where you couldnt ride with it at night.
Quote from: eero on April 21, 2011, 12:15:27 PM
No i dont, the arms to the sunglasses dig into the side of my head.. not very comfortable. Get the light-smoke shield. Not too dark where you couldnt ride with it at night.
I have a darker tint for the HJC and yes, night riding is not suggested with it down :)
I wear sunglasses with my full face all the time. Make sure you get something that won't hurt as the helmet pushing on the sides can dig into your head if you get a pair that isn't comfortable.
But like one other said, in MN it's the same you HAVE to have eye protection, so on a hot summer day (if we ever get one this year) stopped at a red light or something, if you don't have sunglasses or other eye protection on under your helmet, you can't *legally* lift your visor to let some air in.
I wear sunglasses when i need to with ful face helmet and balaclava on cold mornings.
On my ride to work i have the sun directly in front in autumn which is a pain and summer it is high, but just low enough to blind me :mad:
all part of the fun i suppose :)
I got tired of the glasses arms digging into the side of my head so I picked up the HJC IS16 last week, it has the drop down tinted visor similar to the one posted above, So far it works excellent
http://www.hjchelmets.com/prds_is16.htm
Quote from: moosehead28 on April 21, 2011, 12:45:03 PM
I got tired of the glasses arms digging into the side of my head so I picked up the HJC IS16 last week, it has the drop down tinted visor similar to the one posted above, So far it works excellent
http://www.hjchelmets.com/prds_is16.htm
I still have NO idea what the difference is between this helmet and the FS10 I just got. Not sure why HJC would waste their time making 2 helmets almost the same for such close prices. :dunno_black:
If you're not sure about wearing a tinted visor, maybe you'd be happier in something like this....
(http://www.joerocket.com/Files/productImages/413/2095_RKT-Hybrid300.jpg)
http://www.joerocket.com/catalog/index.cfm/250/413/Helmets/RKT-Hybrid
I plan on picking up something like that eventually, either that one or the cheaper version from AFX. After those two it jumps up to $500 for the arai and shoei versions. You can use a clear shield but still have that sun visor to block out some of the sun. It'll be great around town because that visor is huge. You wouldn't have anything blocking your peripheral vision.
Quote from: plewis51 on April 21, 2011, 12:06:02 PM
Well I don't know. A colleague said they got pulled while riding and the cop told them that the tinted visors are a ticketed offense. I'm trying to find the actual rule on this at the moment. No need for me to change out my visor over something that is not real (or that the cops really just don't care if your wearing one).
I have two visors - clear and tinted. I wear the tinted on the weekend and clear (with sunnies) during the week. I wear clear during the week cause my hours are always an unknown - maybe I start in the dark and finish in the light, start light finish in the dark, start dark, work through the light and ride home in the dark. I tried leaving the dark on and wearing clear safety specs for night. But the bugs would get between my face and the helmet and not be dead - yucky feeling with squirming bug on your cheek or trying to get into your ear.
As for what the cops say... in Aust when they write you a ticket they put an Infringement Code on the ticket. Some things have no code - this it is not an infringement. BUT, what they will do is put a Different infringement code on the ticket than what they Tell you the ticket is for.
For example: There is no code for wearing a helmet without an Australian Standards sticker on it. But they'll tell you it's illegal. IF they write the ticket they might put down the code of Unseen rego label or not wearing a seat belt. But cause YOU don't know the codes you think the ticket is for the helmet sticker and pay up. Tricky buggers.
Michael
I've got a Shoei TZ-R and I can fit sunglasses inside of it pretty comfortably. I'd like to get a tinted visor but I'm often riding well in to the night and I don't usually have the space for an extra visor. Nvm the fact that I wouldn't want to change it out all the time.
I do keep a pair of clear safety glasses with me to wear when it gets dark, simply for the protection it provides while the visors up.
Quote from: plewis51 on April 21, 2011, 11:42:02 AM
So I have a HJC full face helmet and use a tinted visor. However, the tinted visors are illegal here in Michigan. In the past I have had run in's with the law regarding window tinting on my car so I want to avoid silly pull overs such as a tinted visor while riding my GS.
Is it silly to wear sunglasses when using a full face helmet (clear visor)? Any suggestions on legal visors? I'm in Michigan.
I think you will find it is only illegal to wear tinted visors after dusk for the obvious reasons.
I wish I had one of those race visors with the little nubs on it for the tear away screens. I could just put a tinted on on, and when it got dark I could pull it off.
(http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/ProductImages/300/0000_Arai_Replacement_SAI_Shield_with_Tear_Off_Post.jpg)
Thanks for all the replies. I have been looking into the legality of wearing a tinted visor but cant find anything about it. I now assume, as others have said, that it would be a fine if caught wearing it at night. Thays like wearing sunglasses in a club
I wonder if Cyclops from x-men encounters any problems with wearing a full face helmet.. hmmm..
Hearsay, and utterly inadmissible in court, but I found this:
http://www.cycleforums.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-89116.html
Quote from: Paulcet on April 21, 2011, 04:51:43 PM
Hearsay, and utterly inadmissible in court, but I found this:
http://www.cycleforums.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-89116.html
Awesome thanks! I love the last couple posts
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zeropt99 said:
with a tinted visor, it's not the same. They can see your body and hands, they dont need to see your eyes right away. It's not like they are worried you'll "shoot them a dirty look", ya know?
Unless you are carrying a gun in your mouth!! :laughing
sleazy said:
04-05-2004, 11:48 AM
Hehe, I've been known to shoot my mouth off now and again. Ask my wife, it's at least a 12 gauge! :crackup
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I often wear sunglasses with my full face, even if I have my tinted visor on.
I don't like wearing sunnies under my helmet, but that's only because my sunnies have wide frames, if they were narrower, they'd be fine :)
i wear light brown lense prescription sunglasses, a nike sports frame. Even though it is hard plastic it is surprisingly comfortable in my Shoei Qwest.
I wouldn't mind paying for a nice prescription sunglasses. Not the kind that look like normal glasses with tinted lenses, but the ones that are actually normal looking sunglasses, but there's no way to know how they'd react with my helmet visor and I'm not taking the chance on a $200 pair of glasses just to not be able to use them.
I have a pair of THESE (http://www.safetyoptics.com/showProduct/Polar-X/Medium+Impact/307-L9-PBFS/COBRA) for wearing under my helmet.
Reasonably flexible arms, and soft silicon on the nose piece and arms, so no discomfort. Also medium impact rated so they will protect my eyes when riding with the visor up (already tested against small stone and insects :D)
(http://www.safetyoptics.com/largeimages/307-L9-PBFS.jpg)
Good coverage too, so with them seated properly I get the barest hint of breeze over my eyes, nothing uncomfortable.
Currently looking at the HJC IS-16 or similar with the second tinted visor. Want something thats has significantly less wind noise for long/High speed trips than my HJC Symax.
OH yeah, the Sunnies I wear are Safety Specs I get from work - so even if I have the visor up I am protected. I have an endless supply as we are NOT allowed to wear normal sunnies at work. They are shaped Just Right to be worn with the helmet on. Not polarised or anything. But my commute is only 20-30 minutes.
Michael
I have a HJC FS-15 helmet that has a built in shade that retracts at the push of a button...kinda like a pilots helmet...actually, with the breath deflector on and the shades down you look like you are ready to shoot TOPGUN...with a Fosil decalled helmet... :icon_mrgreen:
Later.
HJC flip up with built in sunnies, too.
After riding yesterday evening I used my clear visor with sunglasses. Man my sunglasses dig into my temples and the my viewing angle from side/side has been greatly reduced. After reading from the previous "Let me see you helmet" thread, and doing some major research last night, I just purchased this new Helmet with sun visor built in. A Scorpion EX-500 Ardent gray.
(http://images.motorcycle-superstore.com/ProductImages/OG/2011-Scorpion-EXO-500-Ardent-Helmet.jpg)
FWIW, I rode in MI with a tinted visor for years with no law-enforcement problems. You sure about that MI law?
Actually just saw a guy today with a clear visor wearing sunglasses. Here in FL, the issue isn't as much being bright outside (though that's a problem too), it's that clear visors get *really hot* after awhile in the sun. Tinted is much cooler inside the helmet.
just ordered my hjc is-16!
was going to get the hawk st-22, but found a review that said 3 of his 4 screws holding the modular face on stripped! so i decided against the cheaper route..
Quote from: steezin_and_wheezin on April 22, 2011, 07:18:36 AM
just ordered my hjc is-16!
was going to get the hawk st-22, but found a review that said 3 of his 4 screws holding the modular face on stripped! so i decided against the cheaper route..
After using mine for a week or so, Ive discovered that if you have the breath deflector on and the sun shade down, your breath will fog up the shade, Ive since taken the deflector off
Get some anti-fog spray. On the inside, it really keeps the fog off the visor.
I too have a full face HJC. I have both the clear and tinted visors and regardless of which one I'm using at the time I always wear sunglasses.
I have the modular Bilt helmet with the build in drop down shades. But, since we seem to be so much closer to the sun here in Phoenix, I still find I have to wear my sunglasses under them. I have a friend who rides with a tinted faceshield and sunglasses. My thought is I'd rather be able to see than to look "cool".
My helmet is an HJC CL-SP, and I wear a pair of Oakley Scalpel sunglasses underneath on bright days. They're wraparound sunglasses that fit close to my face and head, and they fit nicely through the open visor onto my face. If it gets dark I just put them in a case in my jacket pocket or backpack, and I don't have to worry about them getting scratched or broken like I would if I were carrying around a spare visor. Any sunglasses will work provided they fit under your helmet comfortably without restricting your field of view.
i always wear my spy helios while wearing my full face helmet, except at night of course :P
I ride with a friend who usually has the tinted visor on and he keeps a pair of safety glasses with him in case he gets caught out after dark. I do the opposite, clear visor with sunglasses, either works. If you have the storage space on the bike you could carry a spare visor.
Everyone should have a pair of safety specs under the seat in case something happens to your visor, be it a scratch, stone chip, oil film (thank the 2 strokers on group rides for that) or whatever. The only issues I've found with safety glasses are that the cheap ones are often not optically correct, which you may find a little disorienting, and they are particularly prone to fogging on cold nights. I guess you could put an anti fog coating on them, I've been spoilt with pretreated visors so I've never had an issue with fogging before.
Quote from: Grommett2k on April 21, 2011, 12:12:32 PM
Silly or not, I almost always wear sunglasses with a full face helmet. Here in WA it is illegal to not have eye protection. So if you are in town, riding with your visor up, and you do not have glasses or other eye protection, they can stop you. For me however I wear them mostly because I wear contacts and the wrap around sunglasses help to keep my eyes from getting dried out due to the wind. Even with my visor down the wind that comes from the chin of my helmet irritates my eyes. When I rode to California I wore clear protective glasses in the early morning and night for the same reason.
+1 I always wear my Oakley half jackets I've got night lenses too. It got rid of the headaches I'd get at night. My eyes get soo dried out without them on. I even managed to scratch my cornea with road debris and my visor down so I add all I can. A scratched cornes is :bs: to deal with I had to take an IQ test right after it happened for VR I scored at slightly retarded LOL. when other times I was a 139 amazing how dumb you become when you can't see straight!
Mary
I used to wear sunglasses. Now I just wear my Scorpion EXO 1000 FF helmet with clear visor & flip down sunshades.
Awesome! :thumb:
Some good info for glasses wearers:
http://www.webbikeworld.com/r4/motorcycle-glasses/
Quote from: Paulcet on April 23, 2011, 08:32:19 AM
Some good info for glasses wearers:
Very interesting thread. Thank you for the link. :cheers:
Cutting them is a good idea, although my prescription always changes slightly so my old glasses are never the same as my new ones. My last pair of glasses were plastic framed and they were a nightmare for a helmet. Wire frames are definitely the way to go. I made sure to check every pair I looked at to see how flexible the arms were too. some of the metal ones are just as wide and stiff as the plastic ones. Those are the same kind of magnetic sunglasses I have too. I'm sure they work with visors from some helmets, but they're just awful to use with a clear Arai visor. Everything looks weird. Not sure how to describe it. You can see patterns in the back of car windows, the sky turns purple instead of blue, and every single crack or tar strip on the road is illuminated. It just started to give me a headache.
Those patterns, sky colors, odd reflections are due to polarized lenses. Yeah, that can Oimess with your head.
In Australia the visor has to meet the Australian standards. No Australian standard label on it and its illegal, it means some styles of tinted visors are legal and some aren't.
Having said that, if the sun is rising I wear sunglasses and my tinted visor. Come night time, I've a pair of clear safety glasses under my seat I grab and wear so I can ride with my visor up. That's how I get around the problem. I find the biggest problem with wearing glasses under a visor is fogging up on cold mornings. I do wear a fogg off mask now but if I don't get it right it still fogs my glasses up (just not my visor) so I prefer just to wear the mask and the tinted visor.
My new helmet came with a breathe deflector. It has padded foam on the back and actually presses against my nose. I'm curious to try it out, although if it's that cold I usually don't go out so who knows if I'll ever get to use it.
I wear aviators with my AGV XR2. Works perfectly fine. I could get a tinted visor, but I typically go places during the day and it's night when I leave, so sunglasses and clear tends to be more convenient.
i have to so i can see lol
i wear Maui Jim Sport (i dont remember the style so sport will do) they are triple layer polarised and prescription
here is a link to a style that looks just like mine http://www.mauijim.com/paradise-509.html
mine are black not brown
just got my hjc is-16, and love it!
just wondering if anyone knew if the sun visor that came in it was the "smoke" or "dark smoke"?
looking at getting a darker visor, but would hate to spend 25 bucks on the same visor i have haha
I don't know what colour the inner lense is, though mine also came with an extra orange/yellow replacement, but unfortunately my dog ate it :icon_sad:
i have tinted sport googles that i use to play basketball with.
My normal glasses are a frameless design with really thin lines. I can never slide them into my helmet on the first try. I feel them always bending and then they dont fit nicely.
Quote from: turtle* on April 27, 2011, 03:44:28 PM
i have tinted sport googles that i use to play basketball with.
My normal glasses are a frameless design with really thin lines. I can never slide them into my helmet on the first try. I feel them always bending and then they dont fit nicely.
Somebody suggested that you keep your glasses on and go into your helmet facefirst. Then start angling toward the front opening. It works! I tried it and had no problems at all. Doesn't work in reverse, though, but taking them off is never a problem. Putting them on is what bites. It might work for you, too. :cool: