94 GS500 I purchased for $750 with 15K miles back in May 2011. (first bike)
Plan to fully dismantle the bike (only the rims & front end left to take off as I type this) over the winter.
Going to fully clean everything to as close to brand new as I can with parts I am not replacing.
Going with a Black and Dark Red color scheme.
Video of my current state as of 2/23/2012 (still unfinished)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiEijQUlvcg&feature=youtu.be
(edited to current plans)
(Completed section)
Black painted frame & repainting the engine black as well. (done but need to redo the area around the engine from scratching from all the engine work)
Dupli-color retro red metal specks paint on the tank, plastics, rims, & not sure what else yet until after all that is done. (done)
Painting around the gauges red or black as it needs it badly and probably the triple clamp the same or opposite color.. (done)
Get an R1 or FZ1 taillight as seen here http://pantablo500.tripod.com/id55.html (done)
Upgrade the rear shock. (done) Kat600.
New Red chain, & 15 tooth front sprocket. (both done)
New clutch cable needed (done)
Change fork oil . (done)
Progressive Springs (done)
New Exhaust (done)
New turn signals http://www.ebay.com/itm/Suzuki-GSXR-600-750-1000-1100-GS-500-LED-Turn-Signals-/220915374182?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item336f951866 (done)
Replace upper motor after a stupid mistake of mine that broke an exhaust valve, which ruined a piston and head. (done, now fixing oil leak)
New reflectors (done)
Valve clearance check and adjustment (done)
Get a K&N open air filter. (done)
New rear tire. (done)
Gimbel headlight cowl (in closet, waiting on paint)
(Yet to buy/do section)
Red hand grips.
Red pegs http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rider-Foot-Pegs-Suzuki-GSXR-600-750-1000-Front-Red-/350107346406?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item51840625e6
Stainless steel brake lines (not an IMMEDIATE necessity)
Replace the seat fabric.
Rear hugger fender http://pantablo500.tripod.com/id20.html (if I can find one cheap after more important things are finished)
and going to try and get an LED strip kit for lighting up the inside of the bike at night (blue leds) (same as hugger, when I get to it)
Pics of bike when I first bought it.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/008.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/007.jpg)
Pics after I was done making it rideable.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/017.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/019.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/020.jpg)
and my most recent pic at the end of the season before taking it into the basement to tear her apart.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/671233856_2400134156_0.jpg)
kk sorry my phones camera sucks.
Broke my digital camera when I dropped it trying to take pics of my rash after my early summer spill.
Day 1 start (only had the seat off, almost forgot to take pics)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/677304226_2421880085_0.jpg)
Day 1 finish: pretty much had almost everything taken off from the carbs on back on the top of the bike.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/677304316_2421880427_0.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/677304402_2421880748_0.jpg)
Day 3 (day 2 was only cutting my exhaust so I didnt have to wait to get the motor out due to stripped bolts)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/677304578_2421881410_0.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/677304752_2421882043_0.jpg)
Wiring harness out, headlight, cables, brake resi's, & the motor successfully taken out with Zero problems. :thumb:
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/677304840_2421882413_0.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/677304927_2421882736_661761477_1320409990943.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/677304997_2421882993_661761547_1320410007886.jpg)
My baby!!! :sad:
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/677305092_2421883336_661761653_1320410017192.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/677305176_2421883645_661761740_1320410028438.jpg)
All that is left is the rear shock, rear rim, stands, & front end to be removed.
Then I begin the frame & rim cleanup, along with taking care of the tank. (strip, try to get one big dent out and fill in some lil ones)
after that, call around for powder coating prices.
Day 4 :thumb:
Got the rear shock, rim, & chain off.
Stuck now until tomorrow when I buy the correct socket size for the middle bolt on the triple clamp.
Then starts the clean up!! :thumb:
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/677446905_2422389861_0.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/677447170_2422390699_661906953_1320452422644.jpg)
Assume I will need to take the swing arm off as well if I am to powder coat the frame.
Havnt inspected that part yet, got my work done, cleaned up and went upstairs.
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and I gotta say a few things.
So far I am having a TONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN of fun!!!
I Highly suggest anyone who enjoys wrenching on bikes this much to tear a bike apart sometime or another.
Got me thinking, if all goes smoothly when I put it all back together.
I Might just buy a cheap Harley frame (bare or almost bare) with a title and build it up from scratch the same I am doing to this.
but buy the parts as I got the $ too.
(edit again)
This is the closest pic I found of what mine will Somewhat look like when I am all done.
but with red rims and a bunch of other things.
same color scheme tho.
Adfalchius bike
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/alizar1.jpg)
Well the parts off my nephews 93 Kat 600 might be a no go now....
I guess fun is infectious.
He seen the pics of my tear down and is getting antsy to do his instead of parting it out.
Its all good if it doesnt happen, just means I will have to get the rear shock elsewhere and then just add dual front brakes to the stock front end.
Also saves me time, more work, & money.
Which is good because I want this put back together asap after the rims and frame are powder coated.
The idea of building a Harley up from at least a bare frame (part at a time) is getting me anxious!
kk time to gather my things up and go take that front end & stands off to complete the dismantle.
Not much after that for tonight.
Too cold outside to clean the parts at night so that will wait until tomorrow afternoon.
Tomb, do you have access to an air compressor? Is so, you can make a cheap little blasting cabinet to strip rust/paint.
And I don't know if I told you about it yet, but check out Duplicolor Metalcast paint.
Quote from: Big Rich on November 05, 2011, 08:25:56 PM
Tomb, do you have access to an air compressor? Is so, you can make a cheap little blasting cabinet to strip rust/paint.
And I don't know if I told you about it yet, but check out Duplicolor Metalcast paint.
No air compressor :(
Was going to rent a sand blaster for a day for like $60.
Not sure if you need your own air compressor with those tho, I only browsed local prices for like a half an hr.
never called to confirm.
and I was probably told about that paint in the Tons of threads I've started for advice etc etc
Went and checked out some pics of motorcycles done with that paint & wow!
didnt get far enough in the process yet to Really investigate and plan 100% on what I am going to do and use tho.
but from seeing some examples with that paint, i May just paint my tank first with a can of that and see how it comes out.
if it comes out really good, may just paint the frame and rims myself with that and save $ from powdercoating.
ugh now after looking it up a lil more, it got me thinking of maybe repainting my engine red instead of black (seen some red grill paint up to 1200 deg)
it would def. be different as I dont ever recall seeing a pic of a GS in anything but black or a grey/silver engine.
would also save me time from messing with a photo by seeing what parts would look good colored red with all the black.
and I wouldnt have to paint so many little things red to make the colors mesh well.
I think a red tank, plastics, & engine with a black frame would look killer.
ugh dangit! just had to get me thinking again! haha
got myself head first into this having a TON of fun, but so many things going thru my brain that my heads spinning! haha
& this is my very first time going this far into something like this as I just started riding this year, so everyday looking up, thinking, or discussing working on a bike and what to do is like being a kid days before xmas!
thanks for the info btw :)
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and just recalled.
I have an extra right side crankcase cover that I ended up not needing when I first bought the bike. (used)
so if I want to possibly go with a red engine, I can always paint that and see how it turns out instead of the whole engine and then not like it for some reason.
Could strip all the paint off the engine and leave it as bare aluminum. Then any little parts around the engine could get hit with red paint.
The GS comes with a surprisingly clean frame (compared to what I normally work on anyway). That Metalcast paint is usually only available in 3 or 4 colors locally, but Summit Racing offers every shade of it and they ship to PA pretty quick. Back to my thought on the frame though: a nice smoke finish would complement any red paint and bare/polished aluminum. Just my $.02
doesnt sound too bad.
i'll have to take a good look at it when I get the engine down to the bare metal.
(day 5) front end taken off.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/677814075_2423667374_0.jpg)
HAD to stop there.
Stupid front rims rotor bolt stripped... ALWAYS has to be one of em!
Got me too ticked off that I had to stop before I break something. haha
Now just the pegs, stands, and swingarm to remove tomorrow while i cook some MMMMmmmm chili!
would suggest getting the gas out of the tank. you wont need it any time soon. so put it into anythign that can use it for the time being. ( i have this phobia of anythign wiht gasoline in it, WONT go within hte walls of my home)
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on November 06, 2011, 04:04:49 AM
would suggest getting the gas out of the tank. you wont need it any time soon. so put it into anythign that can use it for the time being. ( i have this phobia of anythign wiht gasoline in it, WONT go within hte walls of my home)
I know and plan on it today.
I work 3rd shift and when I've been workin on the bike has been at night on my days off or after sunset before work.
which is when its been a lil chilly out, so I've been putting off anything i have to do outside until a day like today.
Dont wanna get my work area stankin like gas, which is why I didnt just empty it inside.
kk time to go do that, finish the few pieces on the frame and hopefully get it outside for some cleaning before it gets too chilly out to be comfortable.
Frame is finally 99% bare :)
Hard part is over! (for me)
Putting it all back together Will be alot more fun.
Since I dont have to worry my butt off for any stuck or stripped screws or bolts.
Figuring out what goes where again will be cake since I know whats what, labeled, & have a manual.
All I got left is to take the bolts and screws out that I put back in after taking parts off, label and bag em.
and then tomorrow starts the clean up :)
Gotta start with the kerosene, getting all that grease, dirt, and grime off of... everything!
wow was that sucker filthy!
Have to be pretty quick at it too (not clean it quickly but get it done before this warm enough weather to clean outside is gone)
as I sprayed the Filthy parts of the frame with a lil kerosene in the cellar and it even gave the neighbors a headache.
so since I cant do it inside, my time is limited.
and since my nephew doesnt know what hes doing with his Kat 600 now, just going to keep the front end thats on there and add dual front brakes with stainless steel brake lines.
Still going to get a better rear shock tho since im 6ft2 & 225 pnds.
also change the fork oil.
kk off to work in a bit.
Got out this morning after work and degreased and cleaned off the frame, swingarm, & stands.
Put a lil bit of that Aircraft stripper on a small spot under the seat lock, just to see how the paint came off.
didnt come off so well.
A sand blasting it will be!
Then put a nice spot on my tank to see how that paint would come up.
WOW!
Freakin LOVE that stuff!
Small paint brush to apply the stripper in sections.
Left it sit for a bit.
Small putty knife to scrape it off.
90% of the top came off so easily, I coulda rubbed it off with my hand if I wanted to. (just an example)
Just have the bottom left to do on the tank now.
Also, there was the stock purple paint, a layer of blue (maybe primer?) and then the top layer of black from the PO.
That was enough for the day tho.
Also.
Been using Kerosene to degrease everything.
Was runnin low ( plastic soda bottle like container from walmart )so I bought the metal tin of what I thought was the same thing.
Ended up it wasnt, sure as heck didnt smell like Kerosene and woof did it Stink!
But I gotta say, cleaned the grease off with a scrub brush ALOT better then the kerosene was!
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/678499069_2426091301_662988510_1320857524828.jpg)
Clean frame on crappy phones camera
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/678499341_2426092329_0.jpg)
Swingarm and stands
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/678500053_2426094910_662989510_1320857548368.jpg)
Nice and clean, bare tank :)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/678500348_2426095956_662989810_1320857562114.jpg)
Wish the frame didnt need a repainting.
Also wish the tank didnt have such a big dent in the side.
The bare metal of the tank while wet on the frame looked Really nice.
if they were both in perfect condition, I might have considered going with that look.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/678500517_2426096570_0.jpg)
kk time to pass the heck out now!
(edit)
they look better in the photos then in person.
Frame does need to be sand blasted and repainted.
tank needs the dents filled in and painted.
Great stuff here! Excellent pics too! Can't wait to see it come together! :star: :star: :star:
tnx.
Just wish my digital camera wasnt broken.
as these pics are only of my progress.
you cant tell how absolutely Filthy everything is & was with my phones camera.
or how Great that Coleman fuel worked vs the Kerosene I was usin but ran out of. (it just has a Very strong chem odor)
Possible change in plans tho.
After seeing the frame clean and the tank bare (except the bottom), wet and shiny together...
I wish I had an aluminum frame ><
& an undented tank, or $$ for one ><
POSSIBLY changing up the color scheme.
sorry, seeing how nice it looks apart and clean has spurt up more ideas...
Still want to go with a dark red or burgundy with the tank, plastics and insides of the rims.
Outside of the rims will be polished (planned that from the start)
Frame: I think I will probably sand out the (unseen when put together) blemishes and get off the bit of overspray from the PO.
and just get it lookin brand new and leave it the color it is.
Engine: NO idea how to go about this yet but after looking up some polished aluminum bikes and/or parts on bikes.
If I can, going to strip the engine bare of all Paint, grease, & grime and see if I can get that as shiny and polished as other pics i've seen from other bikes.
and pretty much shine and polish every and any aluminum part on the bike to a mirror shine.
Still just another idea and I have to research more.
But after seeing how nice the frame and tank looked all clean together, it kinda stuck on me.
(frame was Alot cleaner then I thought it would be!)
Might just continue with progress and wait on the painting and see if I can get a PRISTINE tank with not a single dent and just go with that polished bare metal look there too when I get my income tax as current $ until then is going into current progress..
But then I would be stumped as to what to paint the plastics that would go good with it.
UGH I hate being so passionate about everything with motorcycles!
so many ideas floodin my head.
small update but no pics as you cant see what I did on my crappy phones camera.
Stripped down half of the swingarm and about 40% of the frame.
Decided to stick with the red and black theme.
Just the easiest and cheapest way to go and most fun.
if I can get 1200 degree red engine / grill paint to match the other red I will use, then probably going with black rims as that would be too much red.
if I have to go with a black engine, then red rims.
also decided: no sand blasting or powder coating.
isn't much rust at all really after degreasing everything to need a sand blasting and I can strip everything by hand.
the most is on the battery box and where the box mounts in the frame & it isnt even much at all.
Since this is my first bike and first time going head first into a project like this.
just going to do EVERYTHING myself. (as long as I am able to! haha)
everything painted will just be rattle can.
but not cheap garbage.
and since I STILL have alllllll winter long, so i'm going to REALLY take my time and make sure it all comes out the best it possibly can.
as that is all I have left to do is strip, sand, prep and paint.
well and a few little parts needing degreased but nothing more then a 10 min job.
When its all repainted and reassembled is when I will start buying replacement parts.
but I'm the type of person who really appreciates my hard work and doing it all myself will please me all the more.
kk nothing to do to it now until this weekend that is going to be nice.
Then I can get some sandpaper, finish stripping the frame & swingarm, sand it down, clean & prep it for primer and possibly primer them if I have time.
(edit)
main reason I was going to get the frame and rims sandblasted was partially laziness haha
and because I thought it would be harder to strip then it actually is.
so far its been easier then expected.
Aircraft stripper, putty knife to take off what I can.
then follow it up with brillo pads.
its been working good so far.
I'll finish it up with sandpaper this weekend tho to get even more off.
Been thinking I probably want something other then a plain colored tank or a Suzuki sticker on the side.
Lightly browsing but never found anything I really liked.
Popped in my head when asking about paint in the general thread.
Going to have my nephew see if his friend can make me a custom sticker of
http://www.wickedjester.com/wickedjester_com_12.gif
or
http://www.wickedjester.com/wickedjester_com_24.gif
Wicked Jester makes up about 90% of my Tshirt wear. lol
Love the sayings and designs.
not sure how they will look tho.
if bad, will just toss them on my car windows or computer case.
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and maybe even
http://www.wickedjester.com/wickedjester_com_31.gif
in the top front of the tank as well, if it wont be too much (too many decals that is)
Have you ever seen this site?
http://www.suzukicycles.org/
The guy is trying to get specs (and pictures) of every Suzuki cycle ever made. Which includes ones that have never been in the US. Personally, the "Impulse" is one of my favorites - I plan on using its paint scheme this winter.
Cool!
Bit much to navigate thru.
at least when your looking up a ton of other things. haha (all motorcycle stuff of course)
small update now tho.
Since I finally have the exact red color picked out, I cant paint the engine red as well.
product
http://www.duplicolor.com/products/metalSpecks/
color (retro red)
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_Metal-Specks&153;,-Retro-Red,-11-oz--Aerosol-Duplicolor_7141554-P_N3276_T|GRP2050_____
Since even finding a red 1200 degree engine/grill paint was a pain.
I am almost certain I wont find the same color with metal flakes for 1200 degrees.
So the engine will be repainted black as it is now.
and going to go over the rims with the same red paint as the rest of what im painting with it.
I just dont want that much of a difference in paints.
aka: if I cant paint the engine the exact same color as the rest of the red, it will just be black to match the frame.
past few days I've been busy stripping and sanding the frame.
Finally got done and nice enough to primer the frame today, also decided to do the rear rim too since it was long ready for it.
replacing the tire so there was no need to tape it off.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/680719173_2433986948_0.jpg)
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after the frame is done, I am never touching another one to paint ever again!!
Should have went with getting it sand blasted and powder coated but I want everything to be all done by me.
Since its my first bike, tear down, paint job etc
update
took the top part of the motor off.
Wanted to do more like fill in the dents in my tank but those WRETCHED copper washers that have to be Screwed off were a real pain!!
or else this would have been a fairly Quick job with the manual.
just the cover off
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/681119955_2435393395_0.jpg)
same
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/681120240_2435394325_0.jpg)
top of pistons
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/681120465_2435395094_0.jpg)
bottom of the upper part of the engine
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/681121236_2435397680_0.jpg)
now I can finally take that and my front rim next pay to have them dang stripped bolts removed :thumb: :thumb:
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and most of all.
Still having a TON of fun!
was in a sour mood when I got home, so I decided to cheer myself up working on the bike before the sun went down :)
& yes, it really does cheer me up quite a bit :thumb:
started the bondo on the dented tank.
while that dried I figured why not do a test coat of color on my rear rim since that was ready for it.
after that, did a coat of primer on the rear plastics.
Gotta say, LOVIN this paint!!!!!!!
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_Metal-Specks&153;,-Retro-Red,-11-oz--Aerosol-Duplicolor_7141554-P_N3276_T|GRP2050_____
^^ metal specks retro red, linked in a prior reply too.
never painted before other then a wall growin up hahaha
but I love this paint compared to the primer I was doing.
So much thicker made it Sooo much easier to work with without messing up badly.
Freakin STOKED right now!
Honestly did not expect it to look This dang good!
SO glad I chose this paint and I would suggest it (right now anyways) to anyone.
This was merely a test coat, but it did come out WAY better then expected.
Really helped watching video's and reading all the how to's.
my crappy phones camera does this NO justice.
it really does look 10X better in person.
Cannot wait to get to the rest now (but I will not rush it)
& I am replacing the rear tire so there was no need to tape it off.
tho yes the sides have alot of tread left, but the middle is bare. (obviously I havnt hit the twisties this season, only my first season so noty yet)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/682095779_2438949682_0.jpg)
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and yes I did have plans for powdercoating the rims and frame.
but I decided to do every single bit of work with my own 2 mitts being my first bike and first time doing everything.
makes it all the much more sweeter.
Great thread :thumb:
thanks.
I was starting to think I was writing it up badly as not many replies.
First time doing all of this so I'm trying to be as detailed as I can.
& its been a slow process.
I would be alot further then I am if I had ANY power tools or a garage.
Every single thing is pretty much done by hand (even stripping and sanding)
So what would take maybe a half hour to do with power tools, is taking me 2 hrs or greater by hand. (depending on the item being worked on)
Also work needing good ventilation has been a very slow process as I have to be outside and I have been working around the weather and outside temps.
kk updated main post to current plans.
Now to go get ready and go buy more primer as the store ran out last time I stopped. (has more in now)
Then go out back on this Sweet day.
Scrape down and sand smooth the tanks bondo, then primer.
finish the coats of primer on the plastics.
and while that dries and sets, start the paint on the frame.
then maybe a coat of paint on the plastics if its ready.
Well, keep up the good work. Seems like you have a good project and I for one appreciate you sharing the details and your thought process and changes.
I think the slow replies have less to do with you and more to do with it being winter and many users having put their toys away for the season.
Got a TON of painting done! :woohoo:
UGH 5 hrs worth, im Beat!
Just the first coat on what I painted.
Also painted the stands as well... I dont think I see anything but black, so I figure the heck with it and painted em red.
Fairings have some dark spots.
I have to sand it down to get it even again and repaint em.
this time Much further away and in alot lighter coating!
they took the paint alot differently then the metal I have painted so far.
Fairings
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/682396541_2440012024_0.jpg)
this one looks fine atm, will check it out further tomorrow as when it was dry enough to move, I simply moved it and kept on painting.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/682396691_2440012601_0.jpg)
sidestand (wasnt Fully dry so I hung it by the lil nub on the side while I kept on painting)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/682396829_2440013089_0.jpg)
Tank primered
Wanted to do a color coat on that but the bondo wasnt as even or as smooth as I thought it was. (was hard to see in all directions except from the front)
gotta sand it smooth and maybe a lil more to even it out.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/682396997_2440013688_0.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/682397180_2440014296_0.jpg)
triple tree needed paint (overspray from PO)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/682397329_2440014843_0.jpg)
center stand
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/682397525_2440015511_0.jpg)
First coat of black on the lovely frame :thumb:
came out VERYYYY nice!
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/682397744_2440016120_0.jpg)
Painted the swingarm too but when I got finished I was cleaning up and forgot to snag a pic.
& yes I went a lil nuts with the red.
about the only things I didnt plan to paint red were the stands.
Def. going to like it when I start putting it back together :thumb:
Still only halfway through with painting tho.
Only the first coat and still need to even buy the clear.
Paint looks good man. This thing is gonna be ready before spring time.......
I wouldn't worry about the comments. You're coming along just fine, so there's no "helping" comments. Wait til you do something wrong......
thanks.
and yeah it will be at least mostly reassembled as soon as everything being painted or needing paint is fully done.
Engine and front rim will be painted last as I still have to take them to a garage to have stripped bolts removed.
Just trying to get it done asap but not do the work in a hurry.
working around the weather as it needs to be done outside.
and my nephew needs to bring his 93 Katana here now and has no room to work on it with mine apart.
even tho he has had since like May or June to work on it (not running), guess my fun is infectious.
Just not in the mood to hear his harpin about me taking up all the room.
OT tho.
came upon some cheaper clear coat that adidas referred to me.
http://www.repaintsupply.com/pd_2_part_2k_aerosol.cfm (17.40)
http://www.eastwood.com/spray-max-2k-high-gloss-clearcoat-aerosol.html (22.99)
was looking up something else on paint and just happen to click on the link on some random forum from my google search. :thumb:
guess I will look it up some more and see if I can find it even cheaper.
(doing everything in that clear coat, so if I can save some $, sweet!)
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nope, guess I just got lucky for once.
that was The cheapest I can find.
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just went downstairs and took a nice look at the parts painted.
Frame came out Flawlessly!
Need to sand down all the plastics and do MUCH lighter coats at a further distance. (was alot different then all the metal I've been painting)
all the metal pieces look Great, just need another coat and to snag a few side areas that didnt get covered equally. (very small spots tho)
Next time tho, hanging the parts from my clothes line. (so I make sure I get every nook and cranny)
didnt have a problem on a cinderblock spraying tho, just the slightly missed areas.
I'll give it until Tues or Weds (next days off) to cure and then sand the plastics down.
and then a 2nd coat of the red on everything else and light coats on the plastics & tank if its finished.
if the weather permits.
Frames 2nd coat has to wait until payday possibly tho.
Already spent a ton on material and I think im only down to a half a can of black enamel.
Then order the clear coat on Friday :thumb:
Got a Sweet idea from my supervisor at work.
Planned, and have the paint already to repaint the engine black.
He asks if its water or air cooled, said air cooled.
said I should see how painting the ends of the fins on the upper part of the engine red.
Sweet idea and it would probably look better then all black.
a "possible" addition to that would be to paint the cap around the suzuki emblem red as well.
First the fins tho, & I have an extra cap I can test it out on and see how it looks.
we'll see.
if it doesnt look good, its not much loss or additional work at all.
If you don't like the red fins, you could just sand off the edges (or use a bastard file). Bare aluminium ends looks nice too IMO.
Quote from: Big Rich on November 27, 2011, 06:41:21 AM
If you don't like the red fins, you could just sand off the edges (or use a bastard file). Bare aluminium ends looks nice too IMO.
yeah, it depends on how it looks tho.
it will be bare metal prior to painting the ends and the rest will be repainted black first.
honestly I doubt bare metal would look good, because there is nothing in view that it will match/mesh with.
all the metal pieces minus the frame and engine are all painted red.
dunno about the lower fork tubes yet tho, they are a MESS (more PO overspray ><) and probably going black.
but, its nice out and I was just going to sit on my butt today but went downstairs to check on the stuff and got myself in the mood to work.
time to go sand down the bondo on the tank more :thumb:
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sanded down the bondo and reapplied the primer.
appears ALOT better then it was before.
now to check it out tomorrow and if its good and not raining, give it a LIGHT coat of paint.
HELL YEAHHHH!!!!! :bowdown:
Got the Tank, fairings, various metal parts, & swingarm finished with paint. (now to buy clear on Friday)
All of it came out GREAT!!!!!
Tank was so so.
only because the tank itself wasnt 100% smooth (brand new smooth) all over. (LITTLE things that couldnt be seen until Coats of paint were on it)
Paint on it came out GREAT tho, so I dont give a Funk!!
little tease of how its going to look
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/682891407_2441717585_0.jpg)
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looks 100X better from different angles in the light with the flakes in it.
freakin Stoked right now!
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new addition to what im going to add.
http://pantablo500.tripod.com/id20.html
since adidas said it helps to keep things pretty clean under there.
& UGH! keep forgetting to dig thru my bin of parts for the rear grab bar and repaint that (black)
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gave it a few hours to fully dry before checking on the parts again.
Just did and everything came out PERFECTLY!!!!
Fairings have no dark spots now, every piece I painted is totally even.
This time I just hung my parts from the clothes line.
Tank and plastics I just kept going from one to the other giving it Veryyyy light coats and built it up evenly.
by the time I went around once, the next one again was dry enough to spray but I still waited a few mins as I've read.
Now I just hope theres 2 nice enough days late next week for me to clear coat.
as I cant friggin Wait to see how this turns out fully done!
Well, been a week since I did anything.
Was letting the paint cure while waiting for payday to buy the clear coat and now waiting on it to get here.
But, took my rim and top part of my engine to a machine shop and had the 3 stripped bolts removed finally :) :thumb:
$75 ugh, Just got back home with them, so its time to get back to workin :)
Front rim, metal around the gauge's, and rear grab bar stripped, sanded, and primer. :)
the hell of stripping and sanding down the motor will be dead last! hahaha
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12/6
Got the motor sanded down and ready for paint :thumb:
which was the last piece! OMG thank god!
I am NEVER sanding down through paint all by hand ever again!!
Now for the clear to get here Thurs or Fri.
then next Friday pick up the frames 2nd coat of black, and more red for the front rim.
Then I can begin reassembling and buying the needed replacement parts first.
Got the rest of the paint I needed.
and the clear coat arrived today :thumb: http://www.repaintsupply.com/pd_2_part_2k_aerosol.cfm tnx for the referral on the clear adidas, tho I found it cheaper elsewhere.
probably because it only has a 48 hr life once its activated (cap installed on bottom) (can says 48, site says 24,.... im goin with 24)
not sure if the $22 one was different.
Now to sit here until im in a relaxed enough mood to go and get almost the rest of the painting finally finished. :thumb:
Not going to go at the clear coat in anything But a fully relaxed and patient state!!
hopefully some finished pics to show late in the morning (off tonight) or tomorrow.
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BREAK TIME!
need some fresher air, that clear coat is a Killer (even with a mask)
about 3 out of 4 coats done with the clear coat on everything but the frame, front fender, and rims.
everything is comin along Great.
rear fairings show some dark spots tho. (the multiple colors showing through the primer, color & clear.
not TOO bad tho, just looks like weird designs underneath so i dont mind.
FINALLY!!! finished painting!!!
for the most part, still got the lower fork tubes and like 2 Little things but all the major parts are Done! :bowdown:
$h!t$ lookin pretty dang sweet!
No pics yet, everything is set up all nice and neat already (hanging from the ceiling) and I am not about to touch Anything.
Pretty much got done with one piece, hung it up, and kept on goin.
I thought the color looked good by itself... WOW, 10X nicer with some clear on it.
So far everything looks flawless, minus the minor bit with the rear fairings... but thats no big deal.
So glad I paid attention to how many cans of color I used overall.
I had JUST enough clear coat to finish (5 cans)
now to hope everything stays perfect
and then starting next Friday when im off for 3 days, clean up all the nuts, bolts etc etc, lube everything needed up and begin reassembly!
and no I am not done there.
Taking it all apart was just to clean and repaint everything.
When its all back together is when I start buying replacement parts on the list, among other items slowly over the winter.
kk hope this made sense as I've been painting for I dunno how many hours.. hmm since 8:30pm and its now 2:30am
cant tell if im half out of it or not hahaha
off to walmart :thumb:
I use the vibrating cleaner to clean and polish nuts, bolts and other stuff. If you were in my area, I'd say drop all that little stuff off and I'd run it through the cleaner. Got mine from Eastwood. I think its a good investment. Removes dirt, grime and rust from parts and polishes them up really purdy - so nice you could step in manure and come out smelling like a rose.
There's a 2k spot clear and the other one. I think the spot in is 24 hours and the other 48. Price doesn't mater - same and glad you found it cheaper. I'll order from there when I need more.
I'll just hand clean each part & regrease as I'm putting it on one part at a time.
Coleman fuel & a toothbrush.
Well, 12 hrs after finishing, I went downstairs and checked the parts out.
Dry enough to handle, but im not going to, just leaving them hang til next friday.
Mood is on cloud 99! even more then last night!
Parts came out GREATTTTTTTTTT!!!!!
I'll take some pics with my nephews Iphone when he wakes up as they will be better quality.
& btw im in such a good mood because all of this is a first time for me.
& anything I try to fix or work on usually ends badly.
So when things go good, it kicks my mood Way up there!
Engine I simply painted all black again, including the valve cover.
After almost 6 hrs of painting nonstop, I was done monkeying around.
Since that will be the first piece to go back into the frame, tonight I'll put the top part of the engine back together.
kk waiting on my nephew to wake up before gettin some pics.
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didnt get the chance to use his phone to get better pics.
Just got a few with mine tho, but not all.
Put the top half of the motor back together.
Then a few hours later got bored and went at it some more.
Tank
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/685952883_2452871545_670599466_1323501546150.jpg)
rear rim and front wheel cover
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/685952930_2452871699_0.jpg)
Engine
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/685953001_2452871941_670599592_1323501580648.jpg)
Then I got in a bad mood and bored, decided to carefully start on the rebuild.
Got the motor in first.
Swingarm
then the center stand.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/685953039_2452872066_0.jpg)
the bad news.
front end has to wait now.
the top bearings on the steering stem got cracked and one of the metal whatevers fell out.
I do believe it is #8 in the diagram http://www.cheapcycleparts.com/model_years/3546-suzuki-1994-gs500e/assemblies/124904
Will just do everything but the front end if I get around to it before next Friday.
Then i'll head up to the salvage yard and check some prices on a few things I need
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nvm on seeing what the salvage yard has as far as bearings go.
see a few sets brand new on ebay for around $30
also might as well snag new fork seals as well since they are only around $15.
didnt appear to need them but better safe then sorry.
Got some more work done today.
Dog bones back on.
Rear shock, even tho I plan to replace it. (I just want the bike fully together first)
Kick stand button
half of the wiring harness. (still need to neaten it up and zip tie it down)
Battery box
rear wheel cover
& brake light that I am also going to replace.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/686277300_2454094084_0.jpg)
F&^%$ YEAH!!!
Went to work, overstaffed for the night.
Was asked if I wanted to go home, said heck yeah! more time on the bike! haha :thumb:
Pretty much all done with what I can do!! (cant put the front end on until I get a bunch of things)
Got Everything else on though.
Just didnt connect the fuel hoses to the tank, or put on the tanks petcock or cap.
Also didnt add brake fluid to the rear line yet.
Got everything on tho, at least for cosmetic reasons for now.
Still need to buy and install a new front sprocket and new chain, still put the side engine cover on and new chain guard tho.
I thought the parts looked sweet on their own.
Together on the bike... wow!
So glad my hard work panned out :)
kk sorry, room I had to take pics was limited.
Phones camera sucks.
Lighting is limited too and I couldnt move the bike with no front end.
So here is what I can get for now.
Cant see everything as great and pics do it absolutely No justice. (that I keep saying over and over again)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/686372786_2454433353_671023693_1323593645837.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/686372812_2454433440_0.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/686372826_2454433485_0.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/686372847_2454433557_0.jpg)
and sorry, didnt get a pic of the new chain guard.
I was too stoked and busy admiring my work when I finally got done.
I'll try to get better photos if I ever catch my nephew to use his Iphone (if it will even take better photos) probably will tho.
Hmmm, finished painting Friday morning at 2:30am
Started putting things back together Friday evening. (motor was first)
and Finished with what I can Sunday morning at 3:30am.
Pretty eventful weekend and really quick work putting it back together!
......but what am I going to do with my time now???!!!! :dunno_white: :cry: :cry: :cry:
hahahaha
sorry im just pretty stoked right now.
First time for all of this and for it to come out so nice has me in a Great mood!
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oh yeah, and no pegs either.
Buying http://www.ebay.com/itm/Red-Suzuki-Front-Rider-Foot-Peg-GSXR-600-2006-2007-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-/160697810142?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item256a55fcde
So there was no point putting those UGLY @$$ stock ones on.
Looking sweet (http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb442/adidasguy/Videos/smiley-eatdrink002.gif)
Click on image to Play...
(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb442/adidasguy/Videos/th_GS500_117_SleekTech_MS_HD30.jpg) (http://s1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb442/adidasguy/Videos/?action=view¤t=GS500_117_SleekTech_MS_HD30.mp4)
ty and haha nice video.
nephew got back, borrowed his phone and got better pics.
will upload them as soon as he sends me them.
kk he got back mins after I replied.
got some MUCH better photos with his phone.
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rear tire is being replaced, so there was no need to tape it off
Also, that was the first time touching the red painted parts since I finished with the clear coat and hung them to cure.
Already Very shiny, but still didnt go over any with 2000 paper yet.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/391801_2558793562940_1047053268_2918074_946518109_n.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/390153_2558789162830_1047053268_2918061_738207167_n.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/388899_2558794282958_1047053268_2918076_199945303_n.jpg)
flash sucked
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/388224_2558789962850_1047053268_2918063_1568494769_n.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/387181_2558792482913_1047053268_2918071_2107247553_n.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/386538_2558793882948_1047053268_2918075_993907568_n.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/385850_2558791802896_1047053268_2918069_1668988255_n.jpg)
btw, that is the reflection of the wall in the tank, not a mess up in the paint.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/380117_2558792162905_1047053268_2918070_743785422_n.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/375392_2558790922874_1047053268_2918066_1761922589_n.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/375305_2558792722919_1047053268_2918072_1406062507_n.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/374850_2558790762870_1047053268_2918065_1114097888_n.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/374682_2558793362935_1047053268_2918073_239325332_n.jpg)
What color of paints (and brands) did you use?
http://www.duplicolor.com/products/metalSpecks/
Retro Red
everything was Duplicolor except for the clear coat & engine
which you have No idea how grateful I am for your suggestion on the Spraymax 2K.
Followed the few write ups on how to rattle can paint, 4 coats of clear and it looks GREAT!
these photos are better, but its still nowhere near as nice as in person.
especially with the metal flakes in it.
cant wait to see it in the sunlight.
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the closest photo of how nice it looks in person, is the helmet photo colored red in that link.
it really does come out looking That nice.
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sorry, im Exhausted and about to go to bed so im half out of it.
all the black (minus the engine) was http://www.osh.com/eng/product/dupli_color_premium_enamel_gloss_black_12_oz_aerosol/6819031?gclid=CPTPtZ3t-awCFQjd4AodODANSw
^^ not where I bought it, just givin the first link that came up as the cans are downstairs and I couldnt recall Exactly which it was off hand.
Engine was done with http://www.amazon.com/Rust-Oleum-248903-Automotive-12-Ounce-Degree/dp/B003CT4AKC
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and hurray for a day of brain farts!
been looking up progressive springs and who has it the cheapest'ish, because I was thinking I HAD to buy them to put the front end on like the other parts im buying...
it didnt dawn on me until this morning even tho I looked over http://pantablo500.tripod.com/id2.html yesterday that its doable with the front end on... DUH!
at least now I'm not pressured to buy them along with my other items I need to purchase on Friday.
as I still have some xmas shopping to do.
Small update that I cant contain as its timing couldnt be more perfect!! :thumb:
Dropped the clients off at school this morning and checked my mailbox.
We are getting a 40 hour bonus check for Xmas :thumb: :thumb:
Just got a 20 hour one for Thanksgiving 2 paychecks ago too!!
Been contemplating what I can put off for another 2 weeks (parts needed to put the front end on)
as I have bills to pay Friday and some xmas shopping to finish (which comes first)
but now, I can get everything I had planned on getting & more possibly :thumb: :thumb:
which would be: 15T front sprocket, new chain, steering stem bearing kit, new fork seals & oil, & progressive springs.
also getting http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=57028.0 but that $ is being sent out Friday morning regardless.
think I might try to squeeze in the exhaust I need so I can actually get it started and make sure I didnt mess anything up.
man that really looks fantastic! keep up the good work, this thing is going to POP when she's all back together.
on a side note- did you debate painting the stands? seems like a lot of wear on those parts for that pretty paint
It was a spurt of the moment choice.
I dont think I've EVER seen anyone have anything else but black stands.
So, I like things that are different.
Other then scrapes, im not worried about them.
The clear coat I used will hold up VERY well against anything that goes at it almost.
So I will just have to wash em up now and then.
& the sidestand wont scrape much except for the bottom, so I will just have to keep em clean.
and thanks!
hopefully I will have the front end on next weekend if the parts get here within a week from Friday.
Then I will be able to actually move it from the spot its sitting in now and take some Much better photos with my nephews Iphone.
Which still wont be as nice as it is in person or in sunlight (that im dieing to see it in!!)
Just testing out my finally linked CC to my paypal.
Purchased my new tail light :thumb:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOCKHART-PHILLIPS-CLEAR-TAILLIGHT-YAMAHA-01-05-FZ1-/190346986889?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item2c51908589
didnt like the others ones that were not Fully window clear.
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ugh Finally done purchasing for now. (will get the exhaust out of the way later today hopefully)
15T sprocket
new chain
All Balls steering stem bearing kit
15W fork oil
Progressive springs
Fork seals
and a new clutch cable.
I like the Clear Alternatives light better but I don't think they are made any more.
Here is mine.
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb17/ben_2_go/motorcycle008.jpg)
Yea thats the one I Almost purchased from one of the web sites I bought from earlier.
its nice, but the one I bought is more to my liking.
Quote from: Tombstones81 on December 16, 2011, 05:38:50 PM
Yea thats the one I Almost purchased from one of the web sites I bought from earlier.
its nice, but the one I bought is more to my liking.
:thumb: That's all that matters.
^^ indeed :thumb:
if its as nice looking in person as the photo, will def look better with my fresh paint and color.
because its fully clear and shows off the red pretty well.
yours is more foggy and simply went with My color less.
& actually I seen that pic of yours a Long time ago and wanted to get it.
so, thanks :thumb:
and, just ordered a Kat 600 shock for $25 total, & a fuel filter.
want to buy the pegs now, but I will wait and let the smoke clear.
gotta hit the brakes on this spending spree! hahahaha
Will have plenty with my next paycheck as I already have 11.5 hrs OT just this week and should have another 8 to 10 hrs OT next week as well.
So in 2 weeks I'll finish with at least pegs, blinkers, grips, & a K&N open air filter.
Then get new plugs, oil and get her fired up and checked out.
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also almost forgot, gotta get stainless steel brake lines as well with those im ordering in 2 weeks. (probably red colored ones too)
pointless to put the stock ones back on and get fluid back in the lines if im just going to replace em.
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also Just sent the $$ for my almost brand friggin new exhaust from Steezin :thumb:
shes comin together :)
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yeah urs look like they have more red inside
these are the ones I almost got, more clear but I dont like the designs on them.
diff web page but with a pic http://www.amazon.com/Emgo-Clear-Taillight-Lenses-62-84770/dp/B000GU38OY
I like the clear glass look better
You're welcome.Glad my pics help out. :cheers:
That emgo light is the same as mine.It looks different when you see it straight on instead of an angle.
UPS & FedEx santas came today :thumb:
Received my 15T sprocket, clutch cable, fork oil, Steering stem bearing kit, & new chain.
Also got a free Motorcycle superstore mousepad & some new stickers for my computer case since I dont want any on my bike.
Should be getting at least my fork seals and progressive springs tomorrow.
Will be finishing up the front end and installing it Thurs night if I can get it off, or else Friday night.
Should have my new fork brace by then too :)
Cant install the chain until I buy http://www.harborfreight.com/heavy-duty-chain-breaker-66488.html on the 30th as I have no rivet tool.
& yes that tool can be used for installation as well.
and hopefully have my new exhaust soon after the 30th as I plan to get the oil and new plugs next pay and get her started again to make sure its all ok.
This is a great thread! That duplicolor is rocking! Very good job so far! I really like reading all the details on what you're doing and planning. The words just don't convey the HOURS and WORK you put into it though! (Especially all that sanding, my God doesn't it seem like it never ends?!) Can't wait to see more!!! :bstar: :star: :bstar:
Quote from: cbrfxr67 on December 21, 2011, 08:37:31 AM
This is a great thread! That duplicolor is rocking! Very good job so far! I really like reading all the details on what you're doing and planning. The words just don't convey the HOURS and WORK you put into it though! (Especially all that sanding, my God doesn't it seem like it never ends?!) Can't wait to see more!!! :bstar: :star: :bstar:
NO MORE SANDING!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahaha
yes, by hand it was ALOT of work.
and thanks :thumb:
will get better pics of the color when I am finished to the point where I am riding it again and take it out in the sun.
but actually, 2 more items off the top of my head to sand :cry: >:(
my muffler and I am pretty hell bent on getting http://www.skidmarx.co.uk/product.php?id_product=30077 which will have to be redone to match the rest of the bike.
and UPS santa came today again :) :thumb:
FedEx should be here soon as well.
got my Fork Seals & Progressive springs.
Was smart with what site I bought those springs from.
only found one with tubing included to cut and insert in the tubes instead of having to go out and buy my own.
Just need to buy another $3 hacksaw from walmart hahaha
also, the larger bottom bearing piece of the steering stem was a &^%$# to get off last night!!!!
Just took a flat head screwdriver with a hammer and just kept at it.
didnt budge until the metal part of the screwdriver was literally pushed THROUGH the handle to the top! (its all I had to work with)
it came free tho once I was hitting the metal of the screwdriver with the hammer tho.
Now to get a tube to hammer the new one on evenly without breaking it.
Off for the next 5 days! :woohoo:
Started on the front end finally.
New steering stem bearings finally installed thanks to my dad having the PERFECT pipe to hammer the lower bearings in with :thumb:
Steering stem installed.
Got the new progressive springs in. (will add oil when front end is together)
cleaned up the lower fork tubes too.
Put the forks in and stopped there.
front end parts are a little out of order compared to other parts I bagged and tagged. (forgot about em when I got busy with the other stuff)
& im a little tired so I was easily confused.
stopped there for now until I sleep.
dont wanna mess anything up.
will get back to it tonight.
and hopefully get the new machined fork brace tomorrow as im only going to put everything on top and the headlight and wiring on until it arrives.
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forks set in place and tightened down.
triple tree on
front fender on by only 2 bolts to see how its going to look.
and the front rim finally on (had the most trouble with that due to a simple mistake)
I had the side cap on the opposite side, so I ended up putting the rotor on the wrong side too ><
after putting the rim on twice i kept sayin nahh this isnt right...
hahaha finally switched it around, tightened it up and time for a break for a few hours.
i'll get more of whatever I can get done later.
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handlebar placed back on but nothing else on it atm
front brakes hooked up (even tho I plan to get stainless steel lines, its not a MUST have asap)
headlight and wiring attached
gauges reattached.
ugh this front end is more confusing and a pain in the butt compared to pretty much Everything else for me!!
hope I get the fork brace tomorrow and my new exhaust no later then the 30th.
Freakin Dieing to get her running again!
also so I can make sure everything is 100%.
got plenty days off left so I called it a night.
also, have no choice but to get new blinkers now.
the front right blinkers wires got cut somehow right at the mounting point...
already had ones picked out tho, that will match my brake and clutch levers.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Suzuki-GSXR-600-750-1000-1100-GS-500-LED-Turn-Signals-/220915374182?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item336f951866
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probably getting the fork brace tomorrow (which is what im waiting on to speed up the front end installation)
little confused at what they are smoking at UPS tho :cookoo:
just tracked it and shows Processed through USPS Sort Facility, December 23, 2011, 12:24 am, LEHIGH VALLEY, PA 18002
why send it FROM NY, to about 80 miles South of where its to be delivered for processing??? :cookoo: :cookoo:
( im in north east Pa and they sent it for processing to south east Pa ) :cookoo:
HELL YEAH! :woohoo:
Finally visually complete! :thumb:
my B!tch is finally on her own 2 feet and moveable!
shes pretty much all together, minus the pegs, new blinkers, chain, clutch cable, mirrors, & front sprocket cover on the engine.
Now to go downstairs and clean up one HECK of a mess!
Then get some crappy photos with my phone until my nephew gets home to use his.
Also just got my fuel filter in the mail, matches the bike perfectly :) http://www.bikebandit.com/emgo-anodized-aluminum-fuel-filter
kk off to clean.
pics in a bit
kk heres my crappy pics.
nephew is lettin me use his phones camera when he gets home.
Also going to order a personalized plate next Friday.
Still waiting on the clear taillight as well.
& she is a bit dirty.
clear is still unsanded with 2000 grit to smoothen it Fully out.
and no wax for another 2 months from reading, to let it all fully breath.
http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=264901
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best pic here I think, if only it wasnt missing a few things
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better view of the front end
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kk more in a little while of Much better quality
Looks pretty good.I'm considering the blue for my project.
Quote from: ben2go on December 23, 2011, 01:39:06 PM
Looks pretty good.I'm considering the blue for my project.
Yea I liked the blue metal specks as well but blue had no place in that color scheme of mine haha
Reminds me tho, I "Might" go with the silver on the chain guard and lower fork tubes if I get bored and wanna do some work, but def. no time soon.
Still waiting on better pics...
Took them but my nephew is yet to send them to me from his phone.
That red is hot. You're enthusiasm is inspiring too. Rockin' thread you are posting up. So great seeing it come together, no matter how long it takes. Not that I'd know anything about taking too long to put something together. :cheers:
Quote from: cbrfxr67 on December 23, 2011, 02:52:43 PM
That red is hot. You're enthusiasm is inspiring too. Rockin' thread you are posting up. So great seeing it come together, no matter how long it takes. Not that I'd know anything about taking too long to put something together. :cheers:
not long enough imo.
that or I need another bike asap to work on! hahaha (if I had the $)
sometimes stressful but a bigger destresser and relaxer for me.
I just love workin on it.
and thanks :thumb:
more work done just a little while ago.
tryin to get this finished ASAP!!!
not for riding purposes, tho that is a plus.
but its a waste to be in a hurry only for that with this weather.
personal reasons is all I will say....
Got fresh brake fluid in the front & rear.
Got the chain on
New clutch cable on and adjusted.
Then the sprocket engine cover on for good.
New tail light will arrive tomorrow most likely, but I accidentally shipped it to my moms.
so I wont get that until Xmas.
Kat600 rear shock shows it still in Tx from the 19th......
Hoping for the fork brace tomorrow.
Then all I got left to do is buy new plugs, oil & filter, pegs, & blinkers next pay.
& hopefully get the new exhaust by then (30th)
and she will be good to go! (able to ride it if I choose to, & when I slow down on the purchase spree)
oh yeah, also put the new fork oil in.
and new covering for the seat when I get around to it.
kk 12 hrs later my nephew finally uploaded my pics from his phone. hahaha
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gotta touch up the gas cap with some model paint or something (the black) but not clog up the vent.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/407482_2629191282839_1047053268_2953545_1777886763_n.jpg)
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(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/387505_2629185762701_1047053268_2953535_1583094419_n.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/386364_2629190242813_1047053268_2953543_1304421403_n.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/386147_2629185122685_1047053268_2953533_634106246_n.jpg)
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and last, a close up of the paint on the tank
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looks better now with the red chain on, clutch cable, & engine cover on tho.
but I just got done with that a half an hr ago.
also, the bike is actually VERY filthy atm.
only dust tho, a rinse with the hose when I finally get it out of the cellar will clean it off.
Enjoy :thumb:
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and I still have to neaten up and zip tie all the wiring and hoses and $h!t in the front.
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Fork brace stracking shows its out for delivery :)
Good, once I get that.
I can then run the hoses and wiring on the front end all correctly, neaten and tie them up and be finished with the front end!
well except for blinkers & the blue high beam cap Weed sent me for Xmas that still need to be put on! hell yeah
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new fork brace arrived, WOW is this sucker thick in comparison to the stock one!!!
Now I got something to do for the parts of the day im sittin at home
Looks awesome.
thank you :bowdown:
Finally completely finished with everything I have so far.
Just put the new fork brace on & wow is that sucker thick side by side with the old one!!
Then the fuel filter.
and finished with new fork oil.
all that is left that I already bought but still waiting on is the exhaust, new taillight, & Kat600 shock.
Left to buy to be able to take it for a ride.
Plugs, Oil & Filter, Blinkers, Pegs, & Gas. (buying on the 30th)
Still need a new rear tire but current one is good enough for Short trips nearby to make sure everythings smooth.
after that, K&N open air filter and tools to do a valve check & shims if needed.
anything past that is non essential & will wait a little while so I can give my wallet a breather! HAHAHAHAHA
Unless I get bored and wanna work some more (highly likely!!) hahaha
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no more pics until the exhaust & new pegs & blinkers are on.
not much different to look at right now but a red chain & the side engine cover on.
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yeah, I think they came out pretty close as I assumed it was going to.
Tho I cant wait until mine is cleaned up fully as im not 100% crazy about it yet.
(mostly the lil bit of primer I still need to take off the front tire from forgetting to tape it off & replace the rear tire as its red walled now haha)
Adfalchius bike
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/alizar1.jpg)
mine, still lacking an exhaust, blinker, & pegs on that side.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/398909_2629189922805_1047053268_2953542_1907233563_n.jpg)
(Custom seats are hot, like a hot broad wearing something sexy.) Tombstone, do you think they'll mess up your paint, changing the rear tire? Do you think the fork brace is a big deal over the stock? Again looking fzantastic and never get enough of reading about projects coming together,....
Quote from: cbrfxr67 on December 26, 2011, 03:33:09 PM
(Custom seats are hot, like a hot broad wearing something sexy.) Tombstone, do you think they'll mess up your paint, changing the rear tire? Do you think the fork brace is a big deal over the stock? Again looking fzantastic and never get enough of reading about projects coming together,....
If i was to take a new tire to be mounted at a shop, I would take just the rim as I have 2 times before.
First time I had to. (rear tire)
2nd time (front tire) I just wanted to learn how to take the front rim off.
but, I am going to order http://www.harborfreight.com/24-inch-general-purpose-tire-iron-93230.html and do it myself Very carefully.
because if its as simple as the videos i've watched... why should I pay a dealer $25 to $40 for something I can do myself??
never did it before but if I had to go around the edges with the tire iron and maybe go metal on metal, i'll put some cloth in between to protect the paint.
and the new fork brace I did not NEED.
but I was missing 2 out of 4 of the bolts that mount it to the forks, the 2 were also stripped.
inner 4 for the fender were I think starting to strip.
all from the previous owner.
so I did plan to replace the bolts but then I seen the thicker machined post and figure why not, its only $35 and probably alot better off.
and I doubt I will get a custom seat.
Def. going to cover it with fresh material.
decided to just go with a plain color.
just not sure if I want to go with black or try to match the red.
theres a fabric place 5 mins away tho :)
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also what I recalled earlier that MIGHT end up being really sweet for having a salvage yard 20 mins away.
When I do a valve check and most likely need shims, can just go there instead of brand new from a dealer or online.
and Hopefully be able to get them dirt cheap like others sometimes do with trading old ones in.
Gonna stop by omw home from work one of these days and ask, also see if they have the proper measuring gauges of ALL the sizes needed.
its iffy tho, some of their prices are crazy and some are pretty good deals.
I've changed more than enough tires to tell you: take it to a shop with those painted wheels. I've been really careful around painted wheels and always ended up with a scratch or two. Some tires are almost IMPOSSIBLE to mount without a hydraulic machine.
Then again, my local shop only charges about $12 to mount a tire, so that's my incentive as well.
tnx for the advice.
Since I never did one before and yeah, fresh paint job.
Will def call around for the cheapest then... err Cheaper then where I've been going.
First time was $25
2nd was $40.
im okay with $25.
but $40 is almost half the cost of the tire itself, which is pretty nuts imo.
Got my Kat600 shock & blue high beam cap from Weed in the mail today! :thumb:
Taillight should have arrived at my moms house.
So when I take my nephew to work, going to run down and pick it up.
Then hopefully have time to install them before work tonight when I get back.
So far, all items I've purchased and was given (tnx Weed!) have arrived with no problems :thumb:
One item left now, the exhaust once Steezin isnt hella busy. (unless its already been shipped)
amazing progress!! loving the whole project except, the painted to match wheels(never have been a fan of painted wheels), so i would choose to not go with the color matching seat. paint really came out great tho!
haha i hate that i'm holding up not only my project but yers as well!!
i'll have that sucker cut, wrapped, and shipped tomorrow!
hahaha your not holding it up until I buy the fluids & new plugs.
cant start a bike without those, also cant start it with those & no exhaust hahaha
kk taillight arrived at my moms just as I called.
headed out to pick it up & install what arrived today.
Pics of that later.
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pics Much later!
Got the new brake light on and kat600 shock.
forgot the blue high beam cap in my desk.
wasnt too pleasant & christened the new chain guard with my blood lol :thumb: :sad:
so I just put my tools aside and closed up shop for the night.
Crappy update...
Bought the oil, filter, & plugs friday.
came home to my exhaust on the porch.
installed everything and went for gas.
cranked and BANG!
long story short, right exhaust valve broke because of a stuck bucket from human error, not mechanical failure.
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new valve and pair of new buckets on the way :)
also new blinkers
That sucks out loud.Make sure you check that valve and lap it in as needed.Last thing you want is a leaky valve after all that work. :thumb:
damn hate to hear that mang. you've made insane progress, don't let this discourage ya!!
yea I'll lap and check it properly.
and nah im not discouraged.
probably because I actually found what was wrong and easily got replacement parts otw.
what Does/will discourage me is taking the top part of the motor out while still in the frame :( or if I couldnt find the problem.
all good tho :)
im just giving it time before I go at it as I know the top part comin out is gonna suck, so i'm being patient so I go at it calmly.
and good news today :thumb:
new helmet came in the mail!
matches the bike nicely (tho im yet to hold it next to it)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/helmet.jpg)
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/38/32970/ITEM/Scorpion-EXO-400-Rapture-Helmet.aspx
Never done head work with the engine in frame.Use painters tape to cover the frame to keep from scratching your fresh paint work.
GOod looking helmet sir!
I havnt posted on your build yet but I have been reading it almost everyday. Very nice job there buddy. Im going to do a complete restore when I get another bike. But Im going to restore a 1988 honda cb450s. My GS is a 2006 so theres nothing to majorly do on it except reg maintenance. Let us know when you get it running. Maybe post a video. Cheers.
:thumb:
This is my favorite thread right now on the forum. Well except the one where adidas was pissed off and riled up but finally mister spun a few words and all was good again =classic. But that thread is a running favorite.
thanks guys :sad: :thumb:
haha
and sorry its been slow on the work and updates lately compared to before when I was at it almost nonstop.
Been a bit busy and I was also getting a little too anxious to get her started up.
So I've been just kickin back and also waiting on parts to get here.
Only have 4 new blinkers, new valve and buckets comin.
new pegs and grips that are my next in line to buy will have to wait longer too.
got some bills next pay.
and I'll try to get a video if my nephew is around to let me use his Iphone tho.
I'll be back at it probably Mon and Tues when im off :)
everything on hold until I fix my stupid mistake by cranking the engine with a stuck valve bucket. (thought it was an electrical problem)
broke an exhaust valve and dinged up the piston and around the bottom of the valve...
new bucket in my desk and waiting for the exhaust valve to arrive soon.
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I better get lucky in fixing this, however it gets fixed.
because im Seriously getting fed up tossing money uselessly at problems I caused or just crap luck.
Bummer........but look at it as a learning experience. You will never do that again.
Quote from: Big Rich on January 12, 2012, 01:59:10 AM
Bummer........but look at it as a learning experience. You will never do that again.
nope I SURELY will Not! hahaha :nono:
I just hope its not an expensive fix.
or else "right now anyway" im not sure I have the stomach to throw alot of money at it all at once to fix it.
Since by now I could have already bought an SV650 almost brand new with cash! haha
Its been fun but honestly, enough is enough already are my thoughts towards it!
Riding season is 2.5 months away and I want to work all the bugs out of this thing already!
Not make more! hahaha
Probably going to be days before April nice enough to ride but April is pleasant enough to say the seasons started.
which is when the local safety course starts (when I took mine last year)
Im just really hoping I win the cylinder assembly and pistons from the same 1990 motor I placed a bid on.
Then I would only have to hope to find a good cylinder head to go with it
if the seller didnt sell the one that went with the pieces im bidding on (waiting for a reply from them)
Just alot going on in life too and I seriously dont need anymore headaches like this crap hahaha
Think its time to save up for an SV650 in GREAT condition.
Instead of another endless work in progress bike that has been that since I first got it hahaha (not that it hasnt been fun)
Tomb, I can't even give my engine parts away. I've offered and nobody ever takes me up on it. I have a whole engine in a basket case. Need cylinder head? Got it. Need Piston assembly? Got it. Just pay shipping, you can have it. The engine had a rod bearing go south and it locked up. Previous owner took it all apart and put it in a tupperware container and gave up. The head looks good. Piston and rod assembly look good. Let me know if you need something sir. 95 or 96 is the year. :star: :star: :star:
awesome man!
kk
the entire upper engine is what I could use.
Pistons, Cylinder assembly and cylinder heads.
18517 it would ship to.
lemme know and free is always good.
would toss u a tip for it after I pay my bills but im 100% interested!
I get paid tomorrow too
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now I hope the problem gets fixed without throwing a ton at it, hopefully with what I have coming and if I win the auctions I bid on.
Honestly, just straight up fed Up!
Im actually starting to look at some SV650's
If it cant get fixed and be Good and reliable without spending $200+, then I think im going to look at getting something else.
But still keep the GS
I dunno, i've just been Very frustrated with it and plain sick and tired.
So dug out the basket case last night and got head, jug and piston for you,....shipping today.
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Awesome! :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
and I see Black and I see Valves!! :woohoo: :bowdown:
wish I would have inspected the bottom of my head before I ordered that new exhaust valve....
at least now I have an extra one laying around if I ever need it to use, trade, or give to someone who has been as kind to me as you have and many others if and when they ever need help.
and (almost forgot) a new valve bucket that isnt to be used for what I bought it for if the head has those as well.
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ya'know, since they are in a nice small bin to the side and not in the way.
I say hold onto the parts left over.
you never know when someone like me is going to be in dire need of a piece and be Very grateful for it and hopefully get the chance to return the favor.
I don't know if anybody has mentioned this yet or not but that gallon container of Coleman Fuel you bought is known as "White Gas" or purified gasoline. ;)
Diesel fuel is an amazing degreaser and far less caustic.
Now, onwards, brave soul!
Nope nobody has told me that about the fuel.
and its been a good week so far :thumb:
Got parts coming from cbr that will be here Weds when i have the night off from work.
and the engine cylinders / jugs and pistons I bid on prior to cbr's offer was won today :thumb:
Now to hope the parts I got comin all work out and shes up and running again smoothly!
Because im finally back in the mood to work on it after alot of despair after messing that piston, head, and exhaust valve up.
which Still ticks me off because that engine was smooth as silk!
sounded great and I cant recall having to add more then a quart of oil all season long after the initial oil changes.
so it wasnt burning much oil At All!
I just hope it stays that way!
kk hopefully my next update will be her getting started.
side note tho.
since I'll have the top of the engine off.
I think I "Might" paint the ends of the fins red as I planned.
depends on my patience hahaha
I didnt before because I had already painted a ton and just wanted to finish up.
Can't wait to see this come together!! :woohoo:
Yeah, it will be longer then expected before I have her running.
Keep forgetting that I need to drop the oil pan....... JUST put fresh oil in it too before all of this! ><
Dropped one of the stupid copper washers from above the head, down the middle of the engine and into the bottom.
So I will need to buy a new gasket.
Guess its okay as I was contemplating taking it off to make sure there was nothing in there to damage the motor.
So now I have a "no other choice" reason to.
and hopefully getting a stock headlight fairing and belly pan next pay. (not for certain yet)
OOF!! more painting! hahaha
glad spirits are still high! let me know if you don't get the orange nose fairing, i have a black one if my for sale thread. not the same style though.
stoked to see some final photos w/head cowl and chin fairing!! picturing it now (http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll129/steezin_and_wheezin/smilin/mouth_water.gif)
goodluck with painting the fins!! haha
woulda been out there right now messin with it but im gettin sick :sad:
and nah, not going to paint the fins.
the parts from cbr came today.
paint on the engine parts is Veryyyyy nice compared to mine prior to painting.
Heck, might even look better then my paint job.
so im not going to mess with it.
and hope I do get the headlight fairing and belly pan.
if nobody else snags it up before I get paid.
its all good tho.
I've had http://www.skidmarx.co.uk/product.php?id_product=30077 picked out for awhile now.
I would just be missing out on the belly pan.
which im sure I can find one around somewhere
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sry, sick and not all here right now haha
forgot to say, that headlight fairing you have isnt really my taste.
Personally, i find it rather ugly (Personally!)
the one I linked is from a link from adidas.
and im pretty sure he said he got the same one or very similar that was on one of his bikes when he bought it.
and I like that type better since I already seen it on his bike
After a very restful nights sleep, felt better today. (still feeling it tho)
Got bored, top half of an engine sitting next to me......
Nope I cannot resist!! hahaha :cookoo:
Took the parts downstairs.
Dropped the oil pan first. (gaskets gone to hell)
Got the copper washer that fell in.
Replaced the busted piston.
Tossed the Cylinder on and checked it all out.
everything was ok.
tossed the Cylinder head on.
Lined up the timing chain....... andddd
SHE CRANKS!!!!! <3 :woohoo: (by hand of course)
Tossed the cover on and called it a day!
Will be startin that baby up now as soon as I get a new oil pan gasket :thumb:
If cbr lived close by, I would be bringing over pizza and beer!! :thumb:
Def. saved my butt if everything stays smoothly!
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and new oil pan gasket just purchased :thumb:
and btw, that clear taillight I got is freakin AWESOME!
It looks Great but its also Alot brighter and more noticeable compared to stock.
was just checkin over my ebay and recalled that I didnt make any comments or take any pics of it yet.
and not going to paint the ends of the engine fins red.
actually wanted to this time but the paint on the new engine pieces is just too good to mess up.
Glad you're feeling better Tomb! I figured you were out for the count since you hadn't posted. GOOD STUFF that you got it set up ok. Need pic's!! heheh
tnx :)
still sick, but feeling good enough to move around after actually resting on my past 2 nights off.
and I'll get more pics when she starts up, cut the exhaust pipe to get the slip-on attached, and put the plastics back on.
lot better lookin now with the red chain on, sprocket side engine cover on, and new brake light.
also a nicer painted top end thanks to you :thumb:
oh yeah, also the new blinkers, but I need to get those blinking properly.
not sure if I want to put the 2 on the back tho.
they are ALOT smaller then I thought they were.
bout the length of a cigg pack.
so im not 100% sure I want something that small to let the ppl behind me know im turning.
Might leave stock on the rear, just to be safe.
I'll have more pics next Friday.
By then I should have the oil pan back on, get her started.
Exhaust on.
and pretty much visually complete as far as not having to dig into the bike much anymore.
Still need those red pegs too lol
errr actually, wont be put back together until late Friday.
if she starts and runs okay, i'll go buy some feeler gauges and do a valve check since im not familiar with this head.
and see if the salvage yard has some new size 40 pilot jets.
If all that works out good, THEN i wont have to dig into it much anymore except minor crap.
and now that you got my motorcycle on my brain! :cookoo:
What I plan to get with my next pay or income tax when I get my other info im waiting on to file.
if the headlight fairing and belly pan doesnt pan out Friday.
gonna order http://www.skidmarx.co.uk/product.php?id_product=30077
if I do get to buy them, get more paint when they arrive.
some LED bulbs for the gauges and such, + whats needed to make them work properly.
and shop around for a blue LED kit for illuminating the bike.
order a new rear tire.
new pegs finally!
grips
K&N open air filter.
seat fabric
new fuel hoses and clamps
some wax for everything I painted
and some Mothers, back to black trim polish.
hmm I think that will pretty much complete my work for the winter.
IF everything goes smoothly..... (stupid engine!) :bs:
and some sweet pre ordered flowers to be delivered on Valentines day for a special someone that is currently out of state. (just a self reminder here) haha
hmm think thats it, guess I was in the mood to type lol :cookoo:
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and thanks again to Adidas !
even more hell bent on getting a headlight fairing and belly pan now.
So, I was searching through the site and found a link from adidas on where he got some belly pans from.
found http://www.mandp.co.uk/productinfo.aspx?catref=516552&tier1url=Bodywork&tier2url=Bellypans&tier3url=Skidmarx
also found some cheaper Raptor headlight fairings for ALOT cheaper then other sites I bookmarked. (incase I ever want one)
http://www.mandp.co.uk/productinfo.aspx?catref=517576&tier1url=Bodywork&tier2url=Fairings&tier3url=On-Two-Wheels
http://www.mandp.co.uk/productinfo/553588/Bodywork/Fairings/On-Two-Wheels
so if that sale doesnt pan out, def going to be purchasing brand new.
Those fairing you listed are only 30cm from top to bottom,that's close to one foot.That is very small for a headlight fairing.The one on my black GS is around 18 to 20 inches tall.I'm only pointing this out because of how small they are compared to other aftermarket fairings.I do like the looks of both of them.
Quote from: ben2go on January 20, 2012, 03:50:41 PM
Those fairing you listed are only 30cm from top to bottom,that's close to one foot.That is very small for a headlight fairing.The one on my black GS is around 18 to 20 inches tall.I'm only pointing this out because of how small they are compared to other aftermarket fairings.I do like the looks of both of them.
I know the size of them in person.
Its what is on my bike in the very first photos in this thread when I first brought it home.
Previous Owner had one on it but it was semi broken due to a drop.
they are cheap enough and nice enough to def buy one to toss one now and then for a diff look. :thumb:
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i'll just copy the pic over to here
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/008.jpg)
funny, its actually what initially caught my attention and made me want to buy the bike when I seen the ad.
I've seen a GS500 when I was looking at an SV650 as my first bike (was next to it) and I initially thought, noty!
I actually wasnt crazy about a GS500 at all at first.
when I seen that headlight i thought ok that looks cool and different, so I went to check it out.
so glad I did go and get it, even if I had the opposite opinion of a GS500 then as I do now. (the look)
Different is G-O-O-D! Looks like nothing else you see out there. Make you go 'hmmm what is that' (neck turn, drive over a curb)(doh!).
Quote from: Tombstones81 on January 20, 2012, 06:23:40 PM
Quote from: ben2go on January 20, 2012, 03:50:41 PM
Those fairing you listed are only 30cm from top to bottom,that's close to one foot.That is very small for a headlight fairing.The one on my black GS is around 18 to 20 inches tall.I'm only pointing this out because of how small they are compared to other aftermarket fairings.I do like the looks of both of them.
I know the size of them in person.
Its what is on my bike in the very first photos in this thread when I first brought it home.
Previous Owner had one on it but it was semi broken due to a drop.
they are cheap enough and nice enough to def buy one to toss one now and then for a diff look. :thumb:
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i'll just copy the pic over to here
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/008.jpg)
funny, its actually what initially caught my attention and made me want to buy the bike when I seen the ad.
I've seen a GS500 when I was looking at an SV650 as my first bike (was next to it) and I initially thought, noty!
I actually wasnt crazy about a GS500 at all at first.
when I seen that headlight i thought ok that looks cool and different, so I went to check it out.
so glad I did go and get it, even if I had the opposite opinion of a GS500 then as I do now. (the look)
:thumb:
WELL!!!
As I said in the one for sale thread...
when it rains, it friggin POURS!!! :mad: :mad:
Very bad week has gone from Bad, to Worse!
Roommate is moving out by the end of Feb. and the place isnt worth staying there solo.
Already planned to start saving and looking as soon as I finished my bike but now that is ALL on hold.....
So pretty much for awhile, what you see is what you get.
Cant purchase anymore parts that I Dont have to.
Not buying new pegs, grips, fairings, LEDs, or anything else that isnt a Must to ride.
Going to just toss the stock pegs back on and finish my work and be done until who knows.....
Still need to check the valves and replace the rear tire tho.
everything else is a no go tho.
I just PRAY the engine work pans out good tho!
as I dont have any transportation to move it unless I rent a Uhaul van when moving or it moves on its own 2 wheels...
ugh what a way to ruin my night at work ><
wish I was home to get drunk...
guess its time to look up apts on craigslist.....
Bummer.......any chance of just finding a new roommate? That really sucks.......
nah, I gotta get out of here...
and I might not have to put it ALL on hold now.
I do until I get my living situation situated tho.
so passing on that fairing and belly pan was a must.
I'll just buy the headlight fairing I linked in an earlier post once I get situated and not even bother with a belly pan for awhile.
Well, pretty PI$$ED off since I got the text.
As its always been, now im forced to do things I planned to later but have to soon because of someone else's BS and inconsideration.
Being realistic... one month isnt going to be enough to find the Right place for me solo.
I'm lucky if I find like 5 places worth looking into over the span of an entire YEAR!
Good freakin luck in one Month!!
So!
I'm movin back in with my mom and sis.
my moms getting up there in age and cant really take care of things so well anymore.
and my sis is a little slow and also went through a HELL of a battle with breast cancer.
so they can really use some help.
I was already contemplating it but what really ticks me off....
as Always, its not my final choice to go back, its my dang roommates...
like so many times before in totally different situations.
so, money has to be used to rent a truck or large van to move.
if everything pans out and the bike RUNS.
I can ride it and freeze my butt off for a 45 min ride to my moms.
then after situated, continue finishing it up.
Probably find out today if it starts and sounds all ok.
Oil pan gasket should be arriving today.
Friday I plan to get a feeler gauge to check the valves and a compression tester to make sure the engine is goin smoothly.
will update later.
man that blows! i really hate to hear that for ya.. hope the perfect place falls in yer lap soon!
if you want to use my mini valve kit(see east coast kerry kit for details) i'll be more than willing to ship it out to you ASAP
tnx, I appreciate it.
should be good with the valves tho.
There is 2 Harbor Freight stores close by that im sure I can nab a cheap set of gauges.
and im pretty confident the salvage yard will have Cheap shims if I end up needing any.
Certain I will need the feeler gauges Im going to buy down the road with other bikes so I will just purchase my own set :)
and yes it does blow.
especially since if I move back there, no more warm area to work in.
at least not until I buy a shed.
10-4, hope everything pans out for ya mang
haha no warm space.. welcome to my world:
http://youtu.be/WLWkK_uGjTg
luckily it hasn't been as cold as usual.. well good and bad, good for the moto's, bad for our ski resort :cry:
WELL!
got the gasket today.
put the oil pan back on and filled her back up.
put everything back together.
But... of course!!!
she cranks, gets fuel, air, and spark.
but will Not kick over and start.
just crank crank crank crank....
pistons are moving too of course.
guess I wait til Friday and see what a compression tester says........
and its not a battery issue
Tomb, which headlight fairing were you looking at again? It's a real pita on my phone to search for a link.......
If you would like, I have a quarter fairing you could borrow for a while until you buy the one you are looking at. I don't know exactly what the fairing I have is for, but it's not the cheap "Emgo cafe fairing".
appreciate it but im good :thumb:
its only a cosmetic item, so I can make due without it for another month or two.
(http://www.skidmarx.co.uk/img/p/30077-533-large.jpg)
http://www.skidmarx.co.uk/product.php?id_product=30077
is what im going to get.
the same thing that I believe is on Adidas red GS
Quote from: Tombstones81 on January 25, 2012, 06:18:26 PM
appreciate it but im good :thumb:
its only a cosmetic item, so I can make due without it for another month or two.
(http://www.skidmarx.co.uk/img/p/30077-533-large.jpg)
http://www.skidmarx.co.uk/product.php?id_product=30077
is what im going to get.
the same thing that I believe is on Adidas red GS
I like those I think they kind of combined the Suzuki fairing and the Targa fairing and came up with that.Looks good.I haven't seen adidasguy's red bike,I don't think.
heres adidas red bike I was talking about.
Im pretty sure he said the headlight fairing was the same one as I listed that was on one of his bikes when he bought it.
I got the link from one of his posts for the fairing anyways :thumb:
(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb442/adidasguy/GS500/Junior_11-5-2010.png)
front pic with adidas lol
(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb442/adidasguy/Me/me_me_me_smaller.jpg)
Oh yeah.I saw his bike.I was thinking his was sold factory red.I didn't realize his was the two tone red and black.He does have some sweet GS5's.
I believe his fairing is the one you linked to that is blue.I see they have multiple colors available.May look into them myself.
yep, isnt too expensive either.
pretty much $100 for that and the belly pan is about the same.
yeah I clicked on the red but the sample pic doesnt change colors.
and thats why I offered $100 to start on the headlight fairing an belly pan in the for sale thread.
they are used, old, and in dire need of a fresh paint job.
so I didnt think half of the brand new cost was a bad offer.
so much for that tho, its all good tho, as long as I get this sucker running first!
nice find, i think i might get one of those fairings too :D
Quote from: reload on January 26, 2012, 07:00:48 AM
nice find, i think i might get one of those fairings too :D
yeah, only $100... cant go wrong.
although it is in another country (from the USA) so im not sure on the shipping cost yet.
and credit goes to an old post of adidas I came across while searching this site for headlight fairings.
vat & shipping should add a good amount but what are we talking about 150$ total? i dont think there are any other alternatives are there? wha accessories?
still pretty cheap.
and heres the belly pan from overseas I am looking to get once things get settled.
http://www.mandp.co.uk/productinfo.aspx?catref=516552&tier1url=Bodywork&tier2url=Bellypans&tier3url=Skidmarx
Gotta click down for the GS
cheaper then the headlight fairing too
No news on getting it running? Air, fuel, and spark and nothing? Not even a burp or pop? Something's missing out of that equation,....I know you got a lot going on, just anxious to see you get it running big timer.
not Yet.
I prayyyyy its only a fuel or air issue.
its def not the spark.
I got my old plugs, brand new ones, and ones that u left in the head cbr, which also look brand new.
I also did all the things to check for proper spark.
cranked it with the plug out, checkin the actual spark.
changed plugs.
also peeked down the intake tubes when I took the carbs off and cranked it, seen both sparking just fine.
So im praying its something with the carbs.
JUST got home an hr ago from work and stopping down my dads, so I havnt been out to monkey with it.
I will in a few hours tho, im just sittin here chillin for now.
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there is some popping.
I think it might be getting too much fuel or something.
the first pop when I first started cranking it was funny tho.
Very loud pop from the muffler and a flaming fart came out of it and freaked the dogs out upstairs.
they started barkin like crazy hahaha
also what Might be messin with the carb setup, fuel/air etc is the new 06 exhaust I got is ALOT wider and more open in comparison to my stock 94.
at least the pipe where it goes from 2 to 1 and out to the muffler.
as my slip on goes in it now vs over my 94.
which makes me think maybe theres possibly alot more exhaust going out then there was with my 94 pipe.
and who knows, maybe the fuel is bad too.
it has sat since I first tried starting it and messed my valves up.
which did get put in an empty gas tank that has been sealed and sitting since Nov.
Well for those that didnt see my troubleshooting thread in the general section...
the intake valves are not closing all the way.
not sure on the exhaust valves as I have to take the exhaust off to check.
fairly certain I will have this all fixed tho.
did a TON of shopping to get through this crap this morning.
so, lets see....
we've got....
Brass Bristle brushes for cleaning the gunk off the bottom of the head and valves.
Lapper tool
Valve grinding compound
Feeler gauges
Utility Caliper measuring tool.
Needle file set incase I need to grind the bad spot on my old head and use that, which isnt Too bad and is on the inside, not the outside of the area on the bottom of the valves.
Compression tester
and some Mothers Back to Black.
after the movies
and then make some Piggies!! :D
I should be knockin this problem the hell out of here :thumb: Hoorah!
Well... after taking the intake valves off the new head thinking they were simply way too dirty and crap buildup to close all the way.
it seems at Least one of them is slightly bent.
pretty hard to tell when I was looking at it tho.
Will check again but im not taking any chances.
Just going to go down and lap the new exhaust valve I bought into the old head and smooth out the slightly dinged up area on the head when the valve broke.
doesnt appear that it will cause problems.
Then take the head down to a harley shop near my dads on Tuesday and have them install the new valve since I do not own a spring compressor tool.
Pretty confident once that is done and back on, that she will be running again. :thumb:
Plan to start her up once that is done but still have to take the top of the motor off again.
need new gaskets and I have the one below the cylinders being mailed out tomorrow, still have to buy the cylinder head gasket tho.
kk off to work on it! :thumb:
UGH! quite frankly.... SICK of my endless Bad luck!!
especially with this engine!!
it ended on a good note tho, but still really ticked me off!!
Well....
the valve lapping tool was utterly USELESS for me!
dang thing just kept poppin off and wouldnt turn jack squat!
just took my needlenose vise grips on the top and spun it that way.
after a few times, just couldnt seem to get rid of a lil light shining thru the exhaust valve on my old head when lapping it.....
took a smoke break and said the heck with it.
took the exhaust valves out of the other head and seen how flush that one was.
Not a spec of light :thumb:
okay...
took the other one out and tried that, no light! :thumb:
so the new used head I got came in handy even tho the intake valves were bent (exhaust valves were not)
also, the brand new exhaust valve I bought wasnt even the correct one!
25% smaller bottom head......
ended on a good note, as its all ready for the exhaust valves to be reinstalled.
but pretty ticked i wasted money buying that valve lapping tool, valve grinding compound, and the useless new exhaust valve....
sick of things not going smoothly.
and quite frankly, if this sucker doesnt shape up, its Going to ship Out! :mad:
"also, the brand new exhaust valve I bought wasnt even the correct one!"
-this is the kind of stuff that makes you want to take it out in the backyard, douse it with gas and set it all on fiiii-rrre!
(http://www.gifs-paradise.com/animated_gifs/fire/animated-gifs-fire-39.gif)
I'm sorry about the valves in that head. I never took off the painter's tape or the paper towels the po had put over the valves. I hope you don't give up Tomb. You're really close to getting it up and running!
Not giving up.
if bad luck wants a fight, its going to F'in Lose! (no freakin joke!)
well, it got a few licks in this morning....
my old cylinder head is pretty much shot, unless I take it to a machine shop.
but why would I do that with a perfectly good extra head downstairs?
would of had the valves in but the guy at the shop noticed the one side where the valve broke, it dinged up the valve seat on the bottom.
I didnt see it until he pointed it out....
Soooooo!
Now I have to get the exhaust valves put Back into the other head.
then take out my intake valves from my old head and have those put in the new head as well.....
OYE!
I tell ya... I've had just about enough!
and yes I woulda just lit the sum b!tch on FIRE if it wasnt for so many people who I personally know and those on here who keep pushin me to keep goin.
also alot who are more enthused to see it finished then I am at this point hahaha :cookoo:
"also alot who are more enthused to see it finished then I am at this point hahaha :cookoo:"
count me in that group!!
Can you do the valve swap yourself? A spring compressor isn't that big of a deal to use.
Don't quit Tomb! You're so close!
I would if I had the tool.
but all the local ones I found are pretty dang expensive.
I dont think it would be much at a machine shop for putting them in as it should only take no more then 20 mins.
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okay, just watched a few ways to install valves without a spring compressor.
seems easy enough (never is for me tho!) hahahaha
gonna go get that taken care of now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es6raocApZQ
^^ easiest way I saw.
That looks like a pain in the shaZam. Wish you were closer, I'd just lend you my otc 4572.
yes it Somewhat was.
only at first because I couldnt get alot of force pushing down without the needle nose hurtin my hand.
So I got 2 done with the pliers pushing down.
and then I did the other 2 the way U take them out. (without a hammer and usin a screwdriver to push down with)
19mm socket, long @$$ screwdriver, set up the pins and pushed down hoping they set.
took a few tries but it was alot easier.
all 4 GOOD valves now into the head u gave me Cbr :thumb:
but... OF COURSE!!!
the dang buckets wont go in worth $h!T!
so now since I do not have an oven...
gotta borrow the neighbors hair dryer and warm the sucker up to put them in.
im too aggravated right now to bother tho.
always has to be something else...
if they went in, i was going to fire that sucker up before work.
oh well, hopefully the buckets go in tomorrow and she purrs to life.
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and not a Spec if light shining thru any of the valves! :thumb:
Now I just hope the buckets go in smoothly and do not mess up somehow.
another good note, noticed at least 3 different size shims out of the 8 buckets I have.
didnt check them all tho.
so hopefully if I have to adjust any, I will have the right size already to swap in.
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actually, im just going to take the head to work and set it on one of the heaters until its nice and warm.
then try to get them in.
got the buckets in.
ugh that was a pain in the butt!
just got out of work.
so when I get up, toss it on, make sure it cranks by hand and nothing is stuck like last time.
fire the b!tch up if all is smooth and take some compression tests.
cant put it together for good tho until the lower cylinder gasket comes and I get one for above the cylinders.
also going to hone the cylinders before it goes back together for good as well.
hopefully it all goes smoothly! :thumb:
ITS ALIVE!!!! ALIVEEEEEE!!! :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
Put the Good head cbr gave me with the good valves in it on the bike.
set the timing chain and she cranked by hand Just fine :thumb:
tossed the carbs, airbox, tank, & exhaust on.
let some fuel get thru the lines while I put the exhaust on.
Pressed the button and she started Right up!! :bowdown: :thumb: :woohoo:
couldnt do a compression test, was enough of a oily mess already.
I only had the head cover on it and not bolted down.
also need new gaskets so oil was leaking.
so there was quite the bit of smoke once it started warming up from the oil on the engine and exhaust.
sounded Absolutely WONDERFUL tho!
Still going to do a compression test but honestly, it sounded better then it did before any of these problems!!
so Im pretty certain the compression numbers will be good.
HELL YEAH! :bowdown: :woohoo: :thumb:
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and thanks again cbr!
even tho I know one of the intake valves were bent.
you ended up savin my butt with this :bowdown:
Nice work! I've really been impressed with how you've kept a positive attitude in the face of many set backs :thumb:
-Jessie
Quote from: BaltimoreGS on January 31, 2012, 05:04:48 PM
Nice work! I've really been impressed with how you've kept a positive attitude in the face of many set backs :thumb:
-Jessie
Positive attitude?
HELL NO!! hahahaha
I was flaming mad half the time.
but the time, effort, blood, sweat, and money I put into this sucker... No way was it gonna beat me! hahaha
was perseverance all the way! haha
thanks :thumb:
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and by that I mean, if I had all the money saved that I put into this bike...
I coulda just bought an SV650 with cash in hand.
im sure i said that before somewhere in this thread too.
so I wasnt letting that go to waste! no way! hahaha
def. glad I stopped by the salvage yard this morning after work.
Only $36 for a cylinder head gasket, which is usually $45+++ that I've been seeing if bought online and shipped to my house.
Almost time to finally take her out of the basement! :thumb:
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almost forgot.
asked about Shim cost as well.
$4 a pop.
Still have to check my clearance tho.
Video!!!! Oh wait, you're not ready for that yet. Video signals 'Victory!' Can settle for pics! Almost there!
Wont be a video (if at all) for quite some time.
Roommate with the Iphone is and has already moved out. (hes not sleepin here but theres still some of his things to take out)
So Quality photos or a video is Very iffy for awhile.
In the meantime...
Have to make due with my crappy phones pics.
and wont be anymore pics until I have the bike out of the cellar, washed off (its VERYYYYY dusty and dirty) and waxed.
which will be as soon as I get the last engine gasket in a week and the items to make the blinkers work properly.
as long as nothing goes wrong....
thankfully my rear tire is still Good enough to ride 45 mins to where im movin to.
hmm actually.
depending on the cost...
I can probably get a web cam for my laptop and take pics and a video that way.
if they arent too much (never bought one)
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$40, yeah I can spare that for one.
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did a valve check earlier.
left intake and right exhaust is tight.
other 2 are perfect.
got some work done today :thumb:
nothing major until the cylinder head gasket arrives.
Cut the exhaust pipe about 6 inches shorter'ish, so my slip on fits.
and wow steezin, did u cut the stock muffler off with a butter knife? hahaha
started the cut where I can just saw away, spray the crap out of it with WD40 and the sucker cut very straight and smoothly, without even having to stop.
looks like you had some trouble steezin? haha
Lubed up the clutch and throttle cables finally.
and put the front stock pegs back on to transport it.
took the shims out of the 8 buckets I have (4 on the bike)
6 265's and 2 260s.
265s were in the intake
and 260s in the exhaust.
1 intake and 1 exhaust are tight.
probably going to get a 255 for the one tight exhaust
and toss the 260 from the exhaust into the tight intake that had the 265 in it.
which will be after I install the new gaskets.
then i'll let it run awhile to warm up, retorque everything and check the clearances again.
finally got some pics of the new rear brake light housing too.
dont mind the mess of a bike or work area atm hahaha
lights off
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/699666883_2501433893_684593423_1328476490031.jpg)
brake on
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/699666658_2501433111_684593192_1328476466604.jpg)
haha i cut that piece off at 2 in the morning in a beautiful 30*F rain.. be lucky i did it at all! :icon_lol:
Quote from: steezin_and_wheezin on February 05, 2012, 07:00:04 PM
haha i cut that piece off at 2 in the morning in a beautiful 30*F rain.. be lucky i did it at all! :icon_lol:
hahaha ouch!
and im grateful, just bustin yo chops with a joke :thumb:
haha no hard feelings mang, that was just a quick reply when i was on the road home.
Bike's looking great. Can't wait to til she's up and rolling! :cheers:
Quote from: steezin_and_wheezin on February 05, 2012, 09:11:03 PM
Bike's looking great. Can't wait to til she's up and rolling! :cheers:
+1
Great morning so far :thumb:
Nice paycheck with all the OT I had.
Stopped at the salvage yard, gasket wasnt in yet but I grabbed the shims I needed at only $2 a pop.
Stopped at Harbor Freight for some needed tools, including the cylinder honing tool.
then as soon as I sat down at home finally, salvage yard calls.
my gasket came in :thumb:
Now to eat my BK, relax for about an hr, then go down and get this sucker goin finally!
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or to relax for a few hours hahaha :cookoo:
Got preoccupied killin zombies :woohoo: hahaha im a big zombie nut!
Now I go pay homage to the throne and go get this PITA together.
Yes! :star: :star: :star:
Well, no more leaks...
but a few problems.
gotta readjust the tach cable. (isnt picking up smoothly)
and because of that, cant get the idle set right.
plugs were pretty darn Black after I ran it for a good few mins. (had to play with the throttle tho to keep her goin)
the shims I got were wrong, just a Little smaller then ones needed.
they can move back and forth when placed in the buckets... Big no no!
I dont need a shim flying out into the engine somehow (my luck)
and the compression test shows 90 on both sides.
but oddly enough, its not acting like its got low compression.
starts up and runs just fine.
so far it just seems like I have to get the fuel intake situated correctly.
dunno, too much in one day and its time for bed.
Quote from: Tombstones81 on February 10, 2012, 03:49:20 PM
the shims I got were wrong, just a Little smaller then ones needed.
they can move back and forth when placed in the buckets... Big no no!
I dont need a shim flying out into the engine somehow (my luck)
They are probably 29mm Yamaha shims.
-Jessie
Yea I will be taking them back later today when they open and hope they have the correct ones.
as for the bike.
Gonna get the fuel mixture taken care of.
The carbs are fine, as far as float level and internal parts go.
Probably going to take out the 130 main jets and put the 127.5s in at 2.5 turns out and see how that goes.
also get the tach cable situated so its smooth enough for me to See whats going on with it.
Not sure if this Coulda been the problem, but the plugs were not Tight all the way.
they were only hand tight and only slightly at that.
I honestly dont feel those compression numbers are right tho.
90 on both just didnt seem right.
It doesnt act AT ALL like its getting low compression, or sound it what so ever!
Im going to have to make sure im reading the gauge right and doing the test correctly.
which would be, both plugs taken out
plug the compressor in the one side.
open the throttle all the way and crank it until the numbers stop raising.
doing it that way, both jumped up pretty darn quickly to 90 and stayed there.
dunno...
Just know if this darn thing gives me anymore Bad problems other then a simple fuel mixture problem.
Im honestly going to consider just replacing the whole dang motor.
I'll update later on today when I finally get back down to it.
gonna relax until the salvage yard opens, then head up to hopefully get the right shims.
then head back down and work on it.
also get some fresher gas as well.
Double check your timing marks when you replace the shims, being off one tooth may cause the compression to be low. Also try putting a teaspoon of oil in the spark plug hole, if you honed the cylinders and replaced the rings they may not be seated yet.
-Jessie
99% certain the timing is set right. (right now anyways)
always will be after the trouble i've had with this motor...
and after some reading, the low compression is possibly from the 2 tight valves.
Intake on the left Cyl
Exhaust on the right.
couldnt even get a .004 into it. (or .04, whichever the hell it was, I used the right one, just forget how many 0's are there) haha
other 2 are good tho.
Is the motor good & hot when you check compression?
yeah that was the last thing I checked yesterday when I got done.
I ran the motor enough to warm up nicely first.
Mostly to burn off all the oil that leaked from the previously bad gaskets I had. (was just seeing if it would start)
Also to loosen up the motor bolts to be retightened.
I honestly dont feel its anything to do with the internal work i've done so far.
I mean, if its truly that low of a compression number.
I dont think it would be sounding and running nicely.
Minus the fuel problems tho (too rich atm, because the plugs were BLACK!)
I just hope the salvage yard has the correct shims.
I Really need this taken care of ASAP for other reasons, not just wanting it done.
Just a small update.
Went to every single dealer that deals with Suzuki's in the area and then some.
Not a single one had shims for my bike.
even the salvage yard had none.
So I ordered what I needed online and they will arrive in probably a week.
In the meantime, bike is totally on hold.
Gotta pack up my parts, tools, and then get someone to help me take the bike out of the cellar.\
Pack up my things and the bike in the back of a Uhaul and move.
Then get stuck working on the bike outside in the cold :cry: :cry: :cry:
hopefully all I need to do is put the shims in, and get the fuel mixture sorted out if it needs it.
after that, it will be only minor tinkering.
so I wont be freezin my butt off :)
so thats it for progress until at Least when the shims arrive.
not sure exactly tho as I am going to be VERY busy after I move.
off topic but a lil of the situation im in and my current and previous plans.
Was sharing a place with my nephew.
planned to ""Finish"" my bike up and then save a few grand and move on my own. (initial past plan)
2nd or 3rd week into Jan. I get a text from my nephew omw to work.
that he is paying the bills until the end of Feb and be moved out before then.
So now with Nothing saved up.
I am forced to go through with another option that I have been contemplating for some time now.
Move back in with my mother as her and my sis cant fully take care of a single house on their own.
my moms getting old (almost 70)
and my sis is a lil slow and a few years ago went through a Very bad breast cancer battle.
So the house is in DIRE need of a TONNNNNNNNNN of work!! and i mean TON! hahaha
So instead of paying rent.
I will be fixing up pretty much the Entire house!
New flooring, wallpaper, paint, wall paneling, kitchen cabinets.
Redo the entire bathroom, including either adding a shower to the cast iron tub or just install a shower and toss the tub.
Plumbing.
Some electrical.
Carpeting.
Doors.
Redo the back porch and paint the new front porch.
New fencing around the yard after I rip the probably 60+ year old one out.
But first, spend like $500+ on a pretty large dumpster to clean every single useless thing out of the house.
which was supposed to go towards my bikes headlight fairing and belly pan....
Most likely missing a few things, but thats the jist of it.
Going to be a Ton of fun! lol :cookoo:
which is funny....
Its actually all thanks to the enjoyment I've gotten from working on my bike.
All the work I've done on it has been fun and Im one to Really appreciate hard work when it all comes together.
So its been pretty motivating for me.
...crazy!
so much for a small update... hahahaha :cookoo:
maybe I'll make an off topic thread of that work... hahaha
headlight fairing and belly pan 500 smackers!?!? no sir no sir. maybe 350... 300 for gimble belly pan: http://www.whaccessories.com/GS500Accessories.htm
and
http://www.1tail.com/Targa/Custom_Windscreens/Suzuki_GS500_Targa_Windscreen_Quarter_Fairing_-_24-890S/713660/
a help maybe?
thats just for the windscreen.
and I didnt plan on spending $500 total on them.
I just planned to spend what was needed out of $500 from my income tax.
which included the fairing and bellypan.
and put the rest towards bills and away.
Oh oopz I feel all dumb now haaha
Tomb maybe you can build something while you are at it! Join the likes of adidas with utopia bike garage space! Maybe it's destiny! heheh
haha I dont have That kind of money to build pretty much a garage.
just going to lay a foundation, then build a nice size tool shed on that to store and work in.
something with enough room for a shelf, work table and room to store 2 bikes and work on a 3rd.
btw I have No experience in any of this hahahaha
but I also didnt have any when I started working on my bike and look how thats turned out :thumb:
motivation ftw!
on topic now.
think I might know why the bikes possibly runnin quite a bit rich.
when I took my cylinder head off, the exhaust valves had a little bit of light shining thru.
so I bet now that they are completely sealed, more fuel is being combusted now.
Just a theory going by what I've noticed tho.
we'll see when I put the 127.5 main jets back in vs the 130s in there now and go with 2.5 turns out (think its at that now)
float level and carb parts are 100% tho, so no worries there.
Buy direct from Gimbel - much cheaper. About $360+postage for both. WildHare doesn't show the headlight cowling anymore.
http://stores.ebay.com/bikeparts79/_i.html?_nkw=gs500&submit=Search&_sid=106826498
Been searching everywhere for a couple lost tail center pieces in black and I found a Gimbel headlight cowling in storage that I need to dispose of somehow. That black tail center will show up when I don't need it. It always works that way.
Gracious. This is an amazing build Twists, turns, victories, defeats.....it has it all.
It certainly is inspiring. And soul crushing. LOL.
On one hand, i egt excited "HEY I WANT TO DO THAT TOO!" Then the valve stuff happened and im like "uhhh.....i'd lose my mind!"
Keep at it dude. Its looking good and it'll be awesome when its done.
Where in PA are you located?
haha thanks :thumb:
yeah the valve was, is, and has been a real PITA!
but as long as its 100% fine when I change the shims in the tight valves, then I will be grateful for my mistake being a learning experience.
I am actually pretty darn confident it will be fine because as I said before, its just not showing any signs of anymore problems when it was running the other day.
and sure as heck not showin signs of low compression from anything else but tight valves.
and im in north east Pa, Taylor right now to be specific. (next to Scranton)
in a few days, Plymouth, right near Wilkes Barre.
you can see peoples location on their profiles if they actually update it.
and honestly, even from all the problems....
I still want to do another bike as soon as everything else I have on my plate is situated! hahahaha :cookoo:
It was like that for me too Tomb. Finished my first one and got another, and another and then my GS came along. I sometimes wonder if I like wrenching or riding more. When you first crank the engine and it runs after you fixed it,.... :thumb: Even now, I want to get another GS and do something fi when I finish my first one. I also really want to stick with our great forum. +1 on what ninjeff said too!
You guys scare me. :cookoo:
I get so inspired from these build but i KNOW myself. I hate when Stuff doesnt work like i think it should Its a personality flaw, i agree.
But for me, i just want something to work and i'd lose my cool if i had the trials that you two have (i've read your thread too CBR). It really is quite inspiring, but i know myself better.
Lucky for me, there is guys like you two out there roaming the earth to figure this stuff out so i dont have to. If the world relied on me we'd still be riding horses. LOL!
hahaha dont sell yourself short jeff.
I am the same way with tinkering with anything.
My patience and boiling point are quite low when BS happens.
Im old enough to have learned what happens when I snap tho.
That and im more then obsessed with everything in motorcycles, dunno what it is about it all.
So when I go at it (wrenching or riding) I make a note to prepare myself instead of doing something stupid.
not always perfect tho hahaha!
its also funny everytime I think about it.
When I got the bike last May, I didnt have any experience riding or even wrenching at all. (minus 1 hr on a friends cbr and the safety course)
and now, Im pretty confident I can do anything with the bike minus some electrical and lower engine work because I am yet to have to dabble in it.
so dont sell yourself short.
oh and off topic.
finally remembered to look on FB at my friends bike that he let me ride on July 4th 2010.
NEVER even sat on a bike before then. (nobody around me had one)
and of course, never rode one obviously.
wasnt small or some piece o crap either.
he took me to the college parking lot he took his safety course at and taught me the basics.
after getting the clutch figured out (never used one even in a car before then)
I was riding around just fine in like 20 mins.
I still think he was pretty friggin crazy to let a first timer like me ride his baby.
Especially the meaning behind the money he used to buy it, which was very personal to him.
and heres the bike it was.
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/16056_1222334848836_1542901259_575093_6747945_n.jpg)
CBR600F's! Love those bikes!! Never should have sold my F3, looking forward to owning an '04-06 F4i. That one is the '01-03 body style. I always recommend those bikes to anyone looking for a friendly sport bike. They have a decent amount of power but it is predictable and linear and they are surprisingly comfortable for a crotch rocket.
-Jessie
I guess everyone has their "things".
At 32 years old ive just settled on my distaste for tinkering with mechanical stuff. I LOVE mechanical stuff, but only when it works. So, i usually odn't mind paying some one smarter than me to figure it out.
Your willingness to just endlessly tinker is applauded.
I guess we all have our things though. For me, being a musician means that i'll sit for HOURS and HOURS tweaking one knob fractions of an inch to get "just the right tone" and it doesnt bother me a bit.
Anyway, back to the build! No sense chatting with us simple mortals. BUILD MY FRIEND! BUUUIIILLLLDD!
F4i, where's the drool emoticon? Maybe someday. What a great bike to learn on though!
"sit for HOURS and HOURS tweaking one knob fractions of an inch to get "just the right tone"
wow on that ninjeff. Funny how we all have our quirks that don't bother us at all! I can sit all day and work on the GS. Love it!
Quote from: cbrfxr67 on February 16, 2012, 10:01:40 AM
F4i, where's the drool emoticon? Maybe someday. What a great bike to learn on though!
"sit for HOURS and HOURS tweaking one knob fractions of an inch to get "just the right tone"
wow on that ninjeff. Funny how we all have our quirks that don't bother us at all! I can sit all day and work on the GS. Love it!
You have one... Kinda.
haha yeah its a nice bike.
Im just not one for fairings.
still off topic tho, he had it painted somewhat recently.
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/148708_1633119238189_1542901259_1510403_8104974_n.jpg)
on topic now tho.
Finally all moved in and cable guy just left, so internet is back up and runnin.
Got my shims in the mail yesterday and they are the right sizes.
Snowed yesterday but didnt stick.
Today is nice and sunny.
so I will be going out and tossing the new shims in and seeing if everything is good to go.
OOOOOOOOO
That is sexy in white...
Quote from: ninjeff on February 17, 2012, 10:18:17 AM
OOOOOOOOO
That is sexy in white...
Racist...
Jkjk. It is pretty damn beautiful.
Ok just got done putting the new shims in.
clearances are all ok now.
but still low compression.
Going to fill the tank up with fresh gas and hook her up.
so I've had it....
she either Lives or she Dies... Period!
No more monkeying around the with valves or engine in general.
from here on, if it isnt an adjustment to the carbs or jets.
then she is Done.
Not to the scrap yard or to a new owner.
but covered until I either buy a new engine.
or for a VERY long time if I get something else.
I've Absolutely Had it with this PITA!
so hope she is good now or who knows....
,...waiting for first ride review,...how was it? How'd it run? Sound? Power? Compared to last time you rode it?
hahaha I freakin WISH!
its nice enough out to have gone for a ride.
same symptoms as before, and started as before too.
Low compression still but doesnt seem like it.
and still running too rich.
So im going to monkey with the carbs and toss my old 127.5 main jets in if I can find them vs the 130s in there now.
put the slip-on back on if I get that figured out and take it for a test ride.... if it even makes it that far.
Plugs were Black again.
but with the choke fully on, I had to keep a little bit of throttle on to keep it running.
thats it for today tho.
need a nap before work tonight.
if its not raining or snowing when I get home in the morning, i'll swap out the jets and monkey with the air/fuel screws.
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would of taken too long if she ran 100% to do everything needed to ride tho.
Yet to put the slip-on back on since I first took the exhaust off back in Nov.
would that be causing problems too??
also yet to set the chain tension and initially lube it.
(its been indoors and now covered so its fine)
and I still have to get the tach cable set right as its VERY slow to pick up the RPMs atm.
probably just needs adjustment behind the tachometer.
but these are the Last things on my list to do when its ready to ride. (engine wise)
(edited again)
okay I am a dumb@$$!!!!!
and thats putting it lightly!
hopefully now all it needs is some tweaking.......
First off, after even more reading...
I should disregard compression numbers after a rebuild.
Poured a lil oil down the plug hole and got better numbers.
not much as I got more oil on the engine then in the hole hahahaha
and the reason it was having issues staying started and being too rich.......
I had the dang idle screw opened up ALOTTTTTTT!!!!
and I mean ALOT! hahahahaha :cookoo: << indeed :cookoo: :cookoo:
Had the choke fully on and started tightening the idle screw.
after turn after turn after turn of the idle screw, she started acting as she should with the choke on.
Still going to put the 127.5 main jets back in as I found the baggy they are in.
at least until I get the open air filter if it needs them.
So tomorrow if its nice enough.
Finish up adjusting the carbs.
Put the slip-on back on before I even start it incase I get frustrated again.
Tighten up and lube the chain.
adjust the tach cable.
and if shes acting good, go for a test ride around the block :thumb:
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not gonna bother bumping so an edit will do.
wanted to but didnt finish her up today.
was drizzling a little bit but I've been beat from moving.
So I just took a day for some R&R.
I did get everything together tho.
Now I just need to take it outside and finish the work up.
Tomorrow is supposed to be dry and sunny, so I will be Sure to finish everything up when I get home from work or wake up.
Off Mon and Tues.
and Mon is supposed to be sunny and 40 and Tues is supposed to be sunny and 50.
So I def. want to finish this up before then and hopefully be able to actually go for more then a test ride.
:technical: :technical: :technical: :technical:
:flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff:
:2guns: :2guns: :2guns: :2guns: :2guns:
Yes I feel that way!
I was literally as close as I can get from putting the bike away for a VERYYYYYYYY long time, years+++!!!!
actually, unless it doesnt run right when I fix a new problem will be the final straw, but still close enough!
Im out there crankin and crankin and crankin and she would not start, sputter or Anything at all!!
Finally I really did give up, spat on her haha and went to go put her away for quite awhile.
pushed the bike back to the work area and did one last check.
figured she was being flooded from so much crankin.
so I went to drain the carbs......
unscrewed the screw and.... Nothing
No gas at all came out..... :technical: :2guns:
So I guess when I had the carbs upside down messin with the air/fuel screw. I got the floats stuck or something down there.
as the carbs are not getting any fuel.
and there is no pinch or clog in the lines, tank, either petcocks, or the filter.
Blew air down both lines and whatever fuel was in them spat out the carb drains as I left them open while I turned the throttle a few times and cranked it.
So tomorrow, I gotta take the crap off again and check the carbs......
also couldnt put the 127.5 jets in as One PITA screw is too tight to get off. (when I do, whenever, def going with allen heads)
got the slip-on back on good tho.
was all ready to go around the block for a test ride too......
Absolutely Furious and sick and tired of the BS!
that WENCH better start up tomorrow when I fix the carb problem and run like brand new!
or im seriously not even joking.
I have No problems putting that Wench away for a Very long time and saving for something else!
sorry, REALLY ticked off right now!
so!
we'll see tomorrow morning after work.
Ouch. Good luck dude!
Just a hiccup man, I'm sure. You'll be up and running in No time.
Quote from: Big Rich on February 19, 2012, 06:54:58 PM
Just a hiccup man, I'm sure. You'll be up and running in No time.
hahahaha I hope so.
Its just that these "Hiccups" have been nonstop and never ending so far... hahaha >:(
Just don't put a spoonful of sugar in the bike to cure these "hiccups".
Not to derail the thread, but I think you'll appreciate this story. I've been working on a Honda Trail 90 for a while now. Had half the bike apart working on it and had to have the entire top end rebuilt. Just kept running into one little set back after another (sound familiar?). Finally got everything back together and in spec....... just had to kick start it since it doesn't have an electric starter. Kick, kick, kick, kick, sweat, sweat, curse, kick, kick, kick, and still nothing. So I get the bright idea to pull the cover off the side of the crank and use a pneumatic drill to get it started. So I'm crouched down, running a drill on the crank, and messing with the choke/throttle/mixture screw in the other. BOOM!! Fires up!! I was so excited to hear the motor run for the first time I totally forgot about the side cover being off........it was spewing oil all over my feet for about 20 seconds before I realized it.......
hahahahahaha thats how I was when I first got mine started.
I forgot to put the front engine screw in (the one below the headers that goes from the cylinder section to the head)
Im sittin there warmin her up.... lalala....
look down, ummmm thats more oil then old gaskets should be letting out...
go to the front and shes squirtin away almost as the oil circulates. hahahahaha
kk too tired and miserable to go at it.
just cranky from working all night and being tired.
will go at it when I wake up, and hopefully finish the Wench off! haha
",..BOOM!! Fires up!! I was so excited to hear the motor run for the first time,...." <-this: why i love this stuff. Then I dance a jig,...its tradition now.
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BOOOM! I blow the PIECE OF F'IN PITA Garbage UP!!!
nothin was stuck in the carbs.
something was just clogged.
I took those suckers Fully apart and cleaned the heck out of them!
blew air thru everything and it was all good.
put the 127.5 main jets in.
put it back together and then noticed I lost the one spring that opens both flaps at the same time.
luckily I found it in the grass.....
put everything back on and crank crank crank.....
GDAMM carbs are STILL bone dry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :technical: :technical: :technical:
checked the petcock..... its fine!
fuel is in the lines too.....
im stumped and WAYYYYY more ticked off then yesterday!!!
what the heck else could it be?
fuel is in the lines but Not going into the carbs.......
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and I sprayed carb cleaner all Over that sum B!tch as I cranked it and that did Nothing...
I guess tomorrow I will take them apart yet AGAIN!~ and clean them again.
but also take the petcock off the gas tank and check that.... even tho there is fuel in all the lines........
ugh broke til thurs and I've never needed a beer so bad! ...... wait nm got some liquor downstairs!
not much of a drinker but yes I am that ticked off!
and pardon me if I sound like a fruit loop.
I am simply about to rip my hair out.
or get a gun and unload on the POS like in the one Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man scene (love that movie)
Sounds like vapor lock? Check your carb breather tube for blockage. You are so close man...just relax and take things slow. You will get it done.
It sucks to depend on fixing something like this for transportation. My best advice is to expect it to never work. Then when it does you can have fun with it. Never fun to get frustrated with something you NEEDED to have done yesterday.
Tomb, wish I lived closer. I'd ask you to let me mess around with it and you take a break. I mean with carb cleaner, you should get a burble, putt, something,...? (if you have spark) I was going to say, are you sure you have good vacuum (?) but with carb cleaner, it should pop. I don't think it is the carb cleaning that's causing you problems. Check everything and make sure you connected everything? Just asking,..I'm sure about now a question like that is infuriating.
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Does fuel flow freely from the line going to the carb with it in the prime position? It has to be something minor you are overlooking at this point, don't drive yourself crazy finding it!!
-Jessie
Is the fuel cap venting properly?Sounds like the tank is air locked.Try fueling the carbs with the fuel cap open.
Yes I do feel like that Cbr, except its my foot against the bike lol
Fuel is in every single nook and cranny of the fuel lines.
and I do not have the POS stock petcock anymore.
that POS cost me a wasted $250 garage visit that couldnt even locate the problem lol
I got the one Ben2go has a thread on that has been working Great and isnt the problem.
I checked that out and blew air thru it which went through just fine.
It has no vacuum port, just On Off and Res.
One thing also has my attention a bit.
which makes me think the tanks petcock might be causing problems.
now and then I would hear it Gurgle as the fuel flows into the lines.
but that is after the lines have fuel and after I have been cranking it.
choke is on and throttle wide open or closed does nothing either.
but once again, when I blow air thru the lines with the carb drains open, fuel starts to drip out.
Drip, not flow...
this would be easier if I wasnt stuck working on it outside >< UGH!
screw it, im in a ticked off motivated mood now.
I want this sucker DONE!
time to go out and fiddle some more until I get chilly.
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thanks Ben.
I will do just that right now.
I think if its that simple, I will literally fall to the ground laughing.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
aww man was I laughing too......
Yep, Ben wins the prize!
I opened the gas tanks cap, cranked it a few times.
Then checked the carb drains, they were free flowin gas <3
Few tries the wench started right up :thumb:
Starts but still not 100% yet.
hopefully all I have to do is adjust the throttle and maybe the mixture screws again to get it going properly.
clutch cable also has to be adjusted, too much freeplay.
acted normal in the warm up procedure, choke, RPMs etc.
Idle was fine until I went to try and go around the yard once to see how it was in motion.
after that it wanted to play games.
give it throttle and it would die.
all good for now tho!
GREATLY appreciate it Ben! :thumb: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
(edit)
i appreciate all the help, its just that Ben was spot on :)
(edit)
not being negative but that was a pretty short lived high.
I am quite doubtful its going to run "Correctly" tomorrow, even after adjustments.
It can start and run all she wants but its useless if it cannot be ridden.
This was pretty much the last straw.
Rides or Dies.
Im starting to save up for a Working SV650.
Honestly, I just dont trust the POS anymore.
I would sooner take my 02 grand am with 197K miles on it to Pitt and NC before this bike right now.
Only so much hassle a man can take...
No matter how much $$ I've thrown at it
rant off! hahaha
Okay!!!
Enough Despair from me!
I apologize, its just been nonstop and just too much with life problems lately.
But....
SWEET F'IN VICTORY!! :bowdown: :thumb:
Adjusted the mix screws to 2.75 out now.
it was at 3 when it was rich but it wasnt mainly because of that or the jets.
and 2.5 didnt seem like enough.
Checked the plugs again since I actually had it running awhile last night....
No longer black and lookin as they should.
adjusted the throttle (was no freeplay at all, aka too tight)
adjusted the clutch as it had too much freeplay (halfway pulled in was all slack)
Put everything back on but this time Bolted down for the very last time, win or lose!
vs before I just sat things on the bike when I had to take it off again.
started right up but bolted up in the RPMs.
adjusted idle screw and set choke.
warmed up nicely.
choke off, idled just fine
put the seat on and jumped on the wench.
clutch in, popped her in gear and she still acted normal vs last night she didnt.
went a few yards feathering the clutch.... still normal (getting excited!) haha
hell with it...
let the clutch out and got out of the yard and out the driveway!
went around the block in just a jacket and cigg in my mouth smiling.
opened the sum b!tch up on the one straightaway around my block....... ahhhh SOoooooo nice!
Finally! hard work paid off (knocks on wood)
Now to get cleaned up, put the rear plastics on and go for a long test ride <3
No pics, she is still Filthy!
and no video as I dont have a good enough phone or a web cam for my laptop for this purpose either.. booooo!
ahhh okay enough talk!
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and the RPMs hang high a bit at times.
but I had that problem before, think its a throttle adjustment or something..
worry later!
Let me be the first to congratulate you good sir.
I'm second,...congrats Tomb. Need victory video. :icon_mrgreen:
Thanks but not out of the woods just yet.
First, gotta clean the gas cap vent and the tanks petcock.
After a little riding, it was acting as if it was fuel starved.
also, its leaking oil by quite a bit.
New engine gaskets tho....
Its leaking from either below the cylinders or above them.
I'll have to rip the engine apart again and check it out but also probably but some liquid gasket on the meeting points for some extra seal.
Def. fun to ride again, even if it was for only like 30 mins.
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and yes the engine bolts have been retightened a few times after I left the engine warm up a few times.
but yes, when it didnt act fuel starved (which was omw home)
it was like a totally different bike :thumb:
runs better then it did before, also warmed up quicker even tho I still have to buy 40 pilots.
and Much quicker accel, which is also from the 15T front sprocket.
Well I guess I'll be the third to congradulate you then. Nice job brother. Keep it going and then find away to get some pics on here of it finished.
thanks and I will.... just as soon as I do something I didnt want to say hahahahaha
Gotta repaint the frame around the engine on the inside and outside.
All that engine work scratched it up pretty good.
Its all good tho, it needed more clear on it anyways.
Just a small "to buy" update.
Now that my engine problems have been taken care of. (minus oil leaks ><)
Passion for the bike has come back :thumb:
Should be getting my income tax deposited tomorrow.
Soon as I do, going to be purchasing....
New rear tire.
About 3 ft of new fuel tubing. (I bought some but not enough last year that is still like new but my Res line is old. also the overfill drain hose under the tank cracked in half)
K&N open air filter, for performance but mostly because there is like No room near the petcock for the one fuel line. its constantly being pinched and already cracked open twice last year.
Some replacement nuts bolts and screws for various things.
40 pilot jets
Speedo and Tach LEDs.
maybe the gel seat from walmart if I can find it and new seat covering if I can find some.
and maybe some other crap but im not going to go nuts.
oh yeah, and a silver and ruby colored reflective shields for my new helmet :thumb:
passion = gooood!
I recommend clear line! I bought some from motion pro with the fiberglass reinforcement in it. I always used regular black hose before but I REALLY like being able to see that 'yes' there is fuel flowing in there. Clear filters for me too.
Awesome to see you:
:thumb: and not >:(!
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb17/ben_2_go/Motorcycle%20Stuff/Tank%20Swap/tankswap14.jpg)
are the fuel lines I bought but not enough of last year.
not sure if they are the same brand and type but visually they are.
wasnt cheap at the dealer either... oh heck no!
reminds me, going to make a thread asking if anyone knows where to get them cheaper online.
I was all over to different hardware stores lookin for new lines last year with Zero luck.
finally just stopped by the dealer for something else and picked up lines there too.
was like $50 for like 3 ft I think.
I got it going from the petcock to the carbs and to both On positions on both petcocks.
also with some extra slack in both.
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nm on posting a thread asking for those specific lines.
I just searched and found a thread with a link to some tygon lines at only $1.44 a ft.
hmmm yep I got so ripped off at the dealer.....
oh well, I didnt know jack back then. haha
http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=23487&catid=864
is what I found so far.
whatever I get will be 1/4, same as what I got, has a nice firm hold on the petcocks.
but thats yellow, so I will continue to look for others.
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found something sweeter and cheaper :thumb:
http://prodorutti-supply.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=13-005-5R&Category_Code=FTL
they are also here in Pa so shipping cost and time should be low :thumb:
being only $1 per foot, im grabbin 10 feet of that!
and its a clear red to match the bike :thumb:
kk just woke up, seen my income tax in my account and begun spending! hahaha
Bought those red fuel lines, 10 ft of it being so cheap.
New rear tire.
K&N open air filter (no more pinched fuel lines from the stock box <3 )
40 pilot jets.
and new visors for my new helmet :thumb:
Silver and Ruby mirror
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/69/7199/ITEM/Scorpion-Everclear-Faceshield-for-EXO-400-700-Helmet.aspx
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/69/9906/ITEM/Scorpion-Faceshield-for-EXO-400-700-Helmet.aspx
Now to go pick up my dad to go bummin around and stop up at the salvage yard and order a new head cover gasket and O rings above the cylinders.
UGH what a spending spree!
Pretty much went thru my entire income tax and maybe a little over. haha
hmm lets see.....
grabbed 3 items from the Harbor freight store as I was lucky enough to come across the coupon paper at work Sunday.
Oscillating Multifunctional power tool. for 19.99, regularly 59.99.
Cordless drill for 16.99, reg 29.99
and my fav. a 3 gallon, 100 PSI Air Compressor for only 39.99 reg 79.99
ordered the new head cover gasket and O rings I needed.
along with 3ft of the same fuel line I already have for only 3 bucks incase the red doesnt work.
$250 worth of material for redoing the kitchen, dining and living room floors.
other crap not worth mentioning
and a lil somethin for myself.
digital camera from walmart with an 8GB card.
so now I can finally have some GOOD pics and also be able to take a ton on my vacation riding trip this summer.
Also, I can finally take better pics and a video of my bike.
as long as it has audio with the video recording, about to check that out now.
i'll have a video up when its not dark or raining out.
got back late and I had pizza to eat :thumb:
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okay it takes videos with sound alright.
warning tho, dont expect me to be talking, maybe at all in it! hahahahaha
Just did a test to see how it worked and that was the first time hearing my voice since I was like 15 or 16 (now 30!)
and no sir I did not like it! hahahahaha :cookoo:
Dude! You're making some killer headway.
You'll have it ready to go by Spring time for sure!
Quote from: ninjeff on February 22, 2012, 07:01:17 PM
Dude! You're making some killer headway.
You'll have it ready to go by Spring time for sure!
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! :nono: :nono: :nono:
That was said a LONG time ago when I was in the middle of the clean up and repaint process!
Then the whole engine problems happened.
No Jinxin me! hahaha
Quote from: ninjeff on February 22, 2012, 07:01:17 PM
Dude! You're making some killer headway.
You'll have NEVER it ready to go by Spring time!
Fixed! :icon_lol:
Quick video of the current state and exhaust sound at a few requests.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiEijQUlvcg&feature=youtu.be
Very tidy!!!! :D
Noticed you had a lot of problems with it. Be it carb related or whatever! I'm surprised I haven't with mine TBH! The inside of the tank is nice and rusty, so after 2k miles I decided to fit fuel filters. Jesus after the first week I noticed rust building up! Still runs like a dream though.
:bowdown:
Good job matey. :cheers:
Who's the ass clown that disliked the video??
-Jessie
Quote from: BaltimoreGS on February 23, 2012, 06:36:56 PM
Who's the ass clown that disliked the video??
-Jessie
hahaha no idea.
thats the first video I've ever uploaded so im not sure if I can even see.
video is public so maybe just some random person GS500 searching and didnt like it.
I dont care, that wasnt the purpose of uploading it.
I'll have it all finished as soon as I get the oil leak fixed and everything I recently ordered is here and installed.
Then I'll repaint the frame around the engine where it got all scratched up and probably redo the sides of the engine in some better paint that wont stain so easily.
Also clean up and polish the muffler.
then another video when im all done :thumb:
New helmet shields arrived shortly after getting home from work.
Ordered Weds morning, that was some Fast shipping!!
Silver looks sweet.
But the Ruby is more of a pink/purple then Red.
Thought it would be more Red to match the helmet and bike... oh well.
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/417575_3256863061645_1269150161_33191730_230127805_n.jpg)
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/420719_3256868501781_1269150161_33191736_151530080_n.jpg)
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just bought 2 more items :)
not sure of the laws here in Pa for reflectors but for some reason, I want some now.
even tho I went all last year without any. (wasnt any when I bought the bike)
07 stock (with mounting hardware vs others that didnt)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/130622196564?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
and the long harley ones that I read adidas post about before and look alot better in his pics.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/170773936219?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
and yes, im sure someone has some GS stock reflectors laying around. (only needed the red tho)
but when I want something and its not expensive at all, I dont feel like waiting. hahahaha
Quote from: Tombstones81 on February 24, 2012, 08:30:30 AM
New helmet shields arrived shortly after getting home from work.
Ordered Weds morning, that was some Fast shipping!!
Silver looks sweet.
But the Ruby is more of a pink/purple then Red.
Thought it would be more Red to match the helmet and bike... oh well.
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/417575_3256863061645_1269150161_33191730_230127805_n.jpg)
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/420719_3256868501781_1269150161_33191736_151530080_n.jpg)
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just bought 2 more items :)
not sure of the laws here in Pa for reflectors but for some reason, I want some now.
even tho I went all last year without any. (wasnt any when I bought the bike)
07 stock (with mounting hardware vs others that didnt)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/130622196564?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
and the long harley ones that I read adidas post about before and look alot better in his pics.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/170773936219?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
and yes, im sure someone has some GS stock reflectors laying around. (only needed the red tho)
but when I want something and its not expensive at all, I dont feel like waiting. hahahaha
Its a very good idea to have reflectors on your bike. Red in the rear and amber in the front on both sides of the bike. Its a law requirement where Im from. You cant get a safety with out them.
Great job.
Yeah I know where to mount them.
Going to put the red ones up a little higher as I've seen somewhere on this site.
Round yellow ones will just be put aside.
I bought the set because it had the mounting material.
and the long harley ones will go on the lower fork tubes like adidas has and has suggested to others that I read awhile ago.
If you wanted to get nutty, Dupli-Color sells reflective paint.
:icon_mrgreen:
hahaha I've had enough of painting.
I am just going to redo the area of the frame around the engine.
touch up the gash in the front fender.
and probably redo the side engine covers with something better that wont get stained so easily as what I have on there now.
after that, soooo done!
Stopped at the harley shop next to my dads.
Its just a tiny private shop.
Asked if they install tires, they nicely do :) (wasnt certain so I had to ask)
owner said he sells tires too after I said I will be down when mine arrives.
Forgot to say I already had it being delivered.
I will when I take it down Monday as I dont want him to think I was going to go buy it elsewhere after I asked and not even ask him what he has or how much.
Got home after running around and the tire is on the front porch :thumb:
Now to get that bald & painted rear tire replaced Monday :cheers:
Haven't checked in a while Tomb - sorry! Bikes looking fantastic though. Somebody probably saw your red tire and disliked the video just for that. Who cares anyway?
If you go to Penn DOT's site, there is a PDF with inspection requirements about reflectors. I know you need at least one red facing the rear - not sure about any of the others.
thanks! :thumb:
Yeah I thought that was pretty obvious about the tire.
Its so bald in the middle, what would be the point of taping it off?
Brand new rear Kenda sitting behind me tho :D
Not the best tire out there but I enjoy the ride more then going buck wild and worrying about how fast or how many twisties I can find and go through.
So I only need a good cruising tire.
Also gotta say that to the bike shop tomorrow too, that I had to get it online as I had to match it to the front tire.
Tho yeah I dont need to explain anything, but a nice private polite shop like that, I like being that way and it ends up being both ways.
hmm not sure where I can place a red rear reflector.
I'll just get some cheap rectangular one from walmart or a bicycle store and glue it somewhere back there.
Still going to put the stock red ones on the rear sides of the seat tho and the harley ones on the lower fork tubes like Adidas has.
I used some of those reflective topped license plates screws to pass inspection on having a red rear reflector. Cheap and has a purpose too. I think they were 2 dollars and change at the auto parts store.
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/420220_3425322475103_1331504559_3390658_986241958_n.jpg)
(Good advice Tomb to oz by the way, on his project page! Just wanted to mention that.)
thanks on both :thumb:
Just tryin to pass on what I've learned and also the kindness you shown me with the engine parts.
hmm didnt have Any reflectors and passed inspection at that small private Harley shop I took it to last year.
Thanks I'll get those next time Im near an auto parts store.
speakin of that shop and a lil OT.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Powertrain-Services/108650155868703?sk=wall
their FB page.
the red white and blue bikes are sooo freakin sweet!!
the red and blue ones are pretty dang long tho!
Very nice!
Just a small update.
Nothing as far as work done tho.
New tire is still sittin behind me.
Got my 40 pilot jets.
and my K&N open air filter arrived today when I got home.
Now just waiting on the salvage yard to call when my gaskets arrive.
also need 4 additional things from them now tho.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/681119955_2435393395_0-1.jpg)
the bolt snapped on the circled part (one that holds that down)
I put another one in temporarily that works fine but still going to get another one.
but what Might be causing the leak tho.
the other allen head bolt that holds the cover on the area circled wont tighten all the way.
not sure if the bolt is stripped or the socket.
either way, I am replacing both parts.
the bolt and the part that holds the cam shaft down just incase its the top socket that got stripped.
then rear peg hardware, minus the pegs themselves.
(for the reason below)
been too busy lately with a new flame to work on the bike.
even tho I planned to wait until the salvage yard gets the parts.
I could have at least gotten the rear tire put on but I'll get that done soon.
but I need the peg pins etc because the new gf is just Dieing to go for a ride! heehee
Need pics of new flame!! I mean,.....errr, oh.
Quote from: cbrfxr67 on February 29, 2012, 11:15:05 AM
Need pics of new flame!! I mean,.....errr, oh.
haha i'll be sure to get pics of her on my bike when everything is ready.
until then.
http://www.facebook.com/Tombstones81
I know how you feel when one thing goes wrong and then another and another and so on. I have just learned to walk away and be done for awhile, i broke a bolt off in the head of my truck engine and had to drill and tap in out while holding a vacuum so the metal filings wouldn't go in the engine, did i mention it was in the middle of winter in Minnesota. but the bike looks good, keep on going,
Tomb, I think the general rule of thumb when replacing the camshaft half moon things is that the head needs replaced as well. Only because your head (and those cam caps) is machined for those camshafts. But I know people have swapped those caps with what's available at the time and have been fine. Not trying to kick ya while you're down, just wanted to make you aware.
And I think those allen head bolts are pretty generic- as in a lot of Suzuki's use them, not just the 500. A quick cross reference on the part number could confirm that.
Oh ya, congrats on the new girlfriend!
If the camshaft journal cap threads are stripped, you could helicoil them instead of getting a new cap. That way you avoid the issue the Big Rich mentioned. I had to helicoil one of the head cover bolts, but it was one of the two that thead into the head itself instead of the camshaft journal caps.
Quote from: Big Rich on February 29, 2012, 11:52:38 PM
Tomb, I think the general rule of thumb when replacing the camshaft half moon things is that the head needs replaced as well. Only because your head (and those cam caps) is machined for those camshafts. But I know people have swapped those caps with what's available at the time and have been fine. Not trying to kick ya while you're down, just wanted to make you aware.
And I think those allen head bolts are pretty generic- as in a lot of Suzuki's use them, not just the 500. A quick cross reference on the part number could confirm that.
Oh ya, congrats on the new girlfriend!
thanks on both accounts.
Yeah Cbr is checking to see if hes got extras from the old motor and if so, I will get the part regardless.
Then install it and make sure everything is Ok.
If not, no real big deal.
I still have to take the cover off and see if its the female hole or the bolt thats stipped tho.
I've been waiting until the salvage yard gets my parts in first.
If it doesnt work out, I'll just take the part to a machine shop and have it retreaded or whatever they do in this scenario.
(no experience in that field)
kk time to go see the shop has time for my rear tire to be put on.
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and I got no idea what that is bomb.
as I said, no experience with retreading sockets etc
so I will just take it to a machine shop and have them do it Right vs me messing it up.
It was my first time using a helicoil on my head. It wasn't too bad. Just following the directions.
I can almost gaurantee that you stripped the threads on the cap and not the bolt. The bolt is steel, and the cap is aluminum.
Quote from: bombsquad83 on March 01, 2012, 11:36:32 AM
It was my first time using a helicoil on my head. It wasn't too bad. Just following the directions.
I can almost gaurantee that you stripped the threads on the cap and not the bolt. The bolt is steel, and the cap is aluminum.
yeah I just googled it.
Pretty certain I know what it is.
didnt look long tho, gotta get ready and head out.
small update tho.
got my new rear tire mounted and put back on the bike.
also got my new reflectors in the mail today :thumb:
scattered showers today, so I couldnt put them on.
or at least the harley ones but I will wait til its dry and put em all on.
kk out I go
Adfalchius goes over helicoils in the stud repair thread, skip to about 6:30: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aE_bntq_iE&context=C3d5e5a0ADOEgsToPDskKg71t1i6d-OmLfjzOfzpWY
-Jessie
Quote from: BaltimoreGS on March 01, 2012, 08:28:59 PM
Adfalchius goes over helicoils in the stud repair thread, skip to about 6:30: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aE_bntq_iE&context=C3d5e5a0ADOEgsToPDskKg71t1i6d-OmLfjzOfzpWY
-Jessie
always amazes me how helpful so many people are on this site!!! :bowdown:
Really appreciate that link.
but since its an important part on the bike, I will probably take it to a machine shop to get a quote on it first.
since I have never done that before.
I watched that video and thought 3 things:
1) Very informative- good job!
2) I wish every bolt broke when the part that was holding it was eye level on a bench.......
and 3) It was kinda funny to watch somebody snap a bolt on purpose. In the back of my mind was "there are hundreds of people every day that break them on accident......."
small update.
got the work started.
took all the crap off to get to the cam shaft half moon things.
and yep, the one marked A is stripped in the female part I spoke of before.
screws in and holds it fine, it just wont tighten.
and the leak might be my own dumb mistake.
the head cover allen head bolts were not tightened all the way!!! (only hand tight)!!!
ugh enough of the mistakes!!!
Im going to check every single nut screw and bolt before im 100% finished.
even tho that was a must before this, its now imprinted in my brain.
put the 130 main jets back in and the 40 pilots in
130 because I got the K&N open air filter finally.
and stuck the front fork harley reflectors on with some added glue for extra hold instead of just the tape on it.
and thats it for now.
getting too dark out.
gonna take the half moon thingy (dont even care to look up the proper name right now) to a machine shop soon with the cover and bolt to get a quote on fixing it.
kk off I go.
I'm confused...I thought you had stripped out the threads on one of the head cover bolts? Now you are saying that they were only finger tight. Which bolts exactly were only finger tight?
Quote from: bombsquad83 on March 03, 2012, 01:57:17 PM
I'm confused...I thought you had stripped out the threads on one of the head cover bolts? Now you are saying that they were only finger tight. Which bolts exactly were only finger tight?
I stripped the one.
but the other ones were only hand tight.
I simply forgot to tighten those ones.
Supervisor at work suggested I get a metric tap set from harbor freight and see if I can retread it.
Just got back home from work and the store.
Going to go out and see if that does the trick in a min.
hopefully it does as its going to be Gorgeous out on my days off Tues Weds and Thurs.
and I am Jonesin to ride!!
but thats also if actually Tightening the other bolts I forgot to fix's the oil leak.
or the gaskets arrive at the shop tomorrow or Tues.
(edit)
and if anyone here suggested the same (retread it)
sorry, between work, the bike, the house, and new gf... i am ALLLLLLL over the place! hahaha :cookoo:
Well! that didnt friggin work!
But it wasnt the cover that was leaking afterall...... :mad:
leaking right where the middle of the jug section meets the lower part of the engine.
I couldnt stick my face right up in there because I had the bike warmed up.
heres a pic of the location on a different engine.
Just hope its a simple problem and I dont have to go and use my old cylinder section....
UGH i didnt wanna have to take this sucker apart AGAIN!
time for bed as im pretty ticked off!
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/459.jpg)
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and yes I torqued it all down properly....
Is it from the cylinder base gasket?
Quote from: Big Rich on March 04, 2012, 01:25:01 PM
Is it from the cylinder base gasket?
No idea as thats why I am stuck taking it all apart yet Again! :mad:
hopefully just a minor issue and the gasket is fine as I dont want to have to replace them yet Again either! haha
I can't speak for the GS, but my GR motors have an "over pressure" drain where you have that circled. It's there in case there is a blockage in the crank case vent (top of the motor). Buddha knows all about it on the GR as well.
How much oil is it leaking? Weeping oil stain, constant trickle, etc?
Quote from: Big Rich on March 04, 2012, 05:33:53 PM
I can't speak for the GS, but my GR motors have an "over pressure" drain where you have that circled. It's there in case there is a blockage in the crank case vent (top of the motor). Buddha knows all about it on the GR as well.
How much oil is it leaking? Weeping oil stain, constant trickle, etc?
it fills up that little area in front rather quickly.
then drip drip drip drip.
Way too much to be rideable.
Yeah, that's not that pressure release I was thinking of then.
Sounds like a new gasket may be in order then........hopefully I'm wrong though. It's weird for that gasket to be leaking that much though.......
all brand new gaskets tho.
except the head cover one that is inc now.
wont know til i take it apart i guess
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well once again I go from sick and tired of it to ticked and motivated !
ugh this bike is being worse then a Bad gf! hahahaha :cookoo:
if its not raining tomorrow when I get home from work.
that engine is coming apart again and getting Fixed already!
even if I have to swap out jugs with my old ones (as long as it just gets fixed!)
:2guns: :2guns: :2guns: :mad: :mad: :mad: :technical: :technical: :technical:
so much for ANY plans of riding this Tues Weds and Thurs im off and supposed to be Gorgeous out ><
took the whole top of the engine off AGAIN!
new gasket above the cylinders still looks brand new. (because I bought it from the dealer!!!)
new gasket below the cylinders is a shot POS! (because I bought it off ebay!!!)
its already 25% to 40% bare metal.
the adhesive or whatever the gunk is on it was flaking off as if it was dried out to heck!
100% Garbage!!!
So now I have to call the dealer and order a new one and wait ANOTHER like 2 weeks for it to be delivered.
or find one online if I can borrow some $$ and get it shipped in a day or two.
Bad news tho.....
Cylinders cbr sent me got screwed....
Not sure exactly how.
but the one cylinder wall got 2 NICE vertical scratches in it that are WAY too deep to be useable.
Luckily and I feel bad about it.
I had my old cylinders that are perfectly fine.
and I have already honed and cleaned them up earlier.
But now I cant give them away to the rider in Pitt having bike problems that I said I was going to. (forgot the username)
^^ thats what ticked me off the most.
so!
thats why oil was leaking below the cylinder section.
the gasket was utter and total GARBAGE!
To me that's good news. You found the problem. Have you thought about ordering an OEM gasket from RonAyers.com. Might be cheaper than your local dealer too.
http://www.ronayers.com/Fiche/TypeID/26/Type/CYLINDER/MakeID/2/Make/Suzuki/YearID/35/Year/1994/ModelID/6446/Model/GS500E/GroupID/268553/Group/CYLINDER
Part number 5. Only $6.50 plus shipping.
Ring sticking out? What would cause that nasty scratch? Whatever it is try to figure it out before you end up with the others the same way. Oh and ronayers has been good to me on pricing,..their shipping is a bit lengthy sometimes.
Quote from: cbrfxr67 on March 05, 2012, 01:23:30 PM
Ring sticking out? What would cause that nasty scratch? Whatever it is try to figure it out before you end up with the others the same way. Oh and ronayers has been good to me on pricing,..their shipping is a bit lengthy sometimes.
I was thinking the same thing...
Quote from: cbrfxr67 on March 05, 2012, 01:23:30 PM
Ring sticking out? What would cause that nasty scratch? Whatever it is try to figure it out before you end up with the others the same way. Oh and ronayers has been good to me on pricing,..their shipping is a bit lengthy sometimes.
yea I am just going to bite the bullet and order a new gasket from the dealer ><
so im down for another 2 weeks now ><
oh well, guess the gf and the house remodeling work get more of my attention.
not sure what caused the scratches. (2)
could have been one of many things im thinking.
it looked pretty fresh, so it could have been when I was pulling the cylinders.
I'll have to triple check ring clearance in the new cylinders before I put that one in.
(edit)
kk just borrowed some $$ off my dad so I dont have to wait until Friday to order a new gasket.
will be stopping by the dealer after work tomorrow and then be stuck on 4 wheels for at least a week and a half :(
would have waited but now that I moved, the dealer is a good 30 mins drive away.
and also because I am off Tues Weds Thurs and would have to drive there from home Friday.
vs right from work tomorrow as its closer and they open when I will be getting out of work.
so its just easier to go straight from work tom.
Now im just waiting to see what problems arise when this gets done.....
Dismantling another bike in the near future is VERY slim now!
Just tooooo many problems.
Unless I already have another bike to ride.
that is probably the only reason I am so stressed with this bike.
I WANT TO FRIGGIN RIDEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:( :flipoff: :technical: hahahaha
kk just got back home.
Ordered 2 new lower cylinder gaskets.
Only $8 a pop, so I got an extra for my bad luck. haha :cookoo:
Also might order all new piston rings.
Gotta check out everything and measurements in my old cylinders I need to use now.
Even if they are good, i still might just buy brand new as 2 sets would only be no more then $70.
and yeah I know some people say just replace them, and then some say you dont have to if they are in good shape and within spec.
all depends on specs, if I wanna be patient and better safe then sorry.
and if I have enough left after bills and paying for the cowling on Friday.
fairly good chance even if I cant buy them Friday, that I will be patient and wait 2 more weeks to purchase them.
Which if nothing goes wrong after that.
She will be up and running at the beginning of April.
(edit)
forgot to add.
yes the lower gasket I used that failed was total and utter garbage!
I suspected as much but the dealer confirmed it when I told him the material on it was "flaking" off.
vs the other new gasket above the cylinders still looks brand new.
hes like yeah, that shouldnt do or look like that.
and oh yeah.
got the best addition to the bike yesterday in the mail!
my Gstwin.com stickers :thumb: haha
At least youre ironing those things out. You will have a sweet ride. Keep it up brother, you can do it.
Quote from: SS Adrenaline on March 06, 2012, 05:12:43 PM
At least youre ironing those things out. You will have a sweet ride. Keep it up brother, you can do it.
oh I know I will, but thanks :thumb:
already so much time, sweat, blood, and money into it.
I refuse to give up.
I just either despair from time to time hahaha or get PO'd and sick and tired.
this time tho, its all going back 100%!
gorgeous day out but cant ride.
so im going to change my cars oil, then take the piston rings off and measure them in my old cylinders.
and finish it off with yard work.
hopefully they are within spec.
or else I will be ordering a new set of rings on Friday, even if only 1 piston is out of spec, I will be getting a new set for both.
Hell yeah! :woohoo: :thumb:
Just got done with all the work I planned to do.
All sweaty and filthy. hahaha
Good news tho :thumb:
Piston rings are within spec in my old good cylinders.
Took them out, measured them all.
Then cleaned them and the pistons up nicely.
Now all I have to wait on is the lower cylinder gasket to arrive :bowdown:
No solid idea how the cylinders cbr gave me got scratched now.
Only thing I can think of is when I was putting the cylinders on or taking them off.
going to be VERYYYYYY careful this time and drench the walls even more in oil when I put the cylinders back on.
(edit)
well more bad news but for once :woohoo: its NOT about the bike! hahaha :woohoo:
me and the new gf Already broke up.
no idea, just had a Bad night last night together and she backed off.
$h!t happens, oh well... more time to work on the bike, house, and ride! :thumb:
That's why I like my women like I like my coffee..... ground up and in the freezer ;)
-Jessie
Ha!
Bummer about the GF - but those sorts of things work themselves out anyway. When is the gasket supposed to be in again? This weekend?
Quote from: Big Rich on March 07, 2012, 07:17:21 PM
Ha!
Bummer about the GF - but those sorts of things work themselves out anyway. When is the gasket supposed to be in again? This weekend?
eh it was over as quick as it began, so im not as bothered as I would of been if it went for a long period of time.
and im not sure.
I ordered them on Tuesday.
So based on previous buys, I would say mid next week.
Also if the manufacturer got the O rings in that delayed my previous order.
http://www.cheapcycleparts.com/model_years/3546-suzuki-1994--gs500e/assemblies/124866
#9 ones.
they were having trouble finding them or something the dealer said.
so he is hoping to get my gaskets in on the same order if they didnt ship them out yet.
Quote from: BaltimoreGS on March 07, 2012, 06:41:32 PM
That's why I like my women like I like my coffee..... ground up and in the freezer ;)
-Jessie
Haha I just spewed cola everywhere! :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
^^ hahahaha
but im also Far from done tho. (when the engine is 100%)
Mechanically it will be done, minus fixing the hanging idle. (carbs are fine, prolly just have to adjust the throttle cable at the carbs)
But then I plan to paint the outer parts of the engine fins that face u red.
Repaint the side covers of the engine in better black paint. (current paint on it is garbage)
Have to touch up 2 spots on the front fender.
Sand down a few layers of the frame around the engine and repaint that. (scratches from engine work)
Paint the headlight cowl I am buying Friday to match the bike.
Paint the chain guard red as well to stand out more since I have nothing to match the bare metal look. (can always buy another off adidas if I change my mind afterwards)
and sand down the slip-on and get it as shiny as possible.
Already have the black for the frame and red for the touch ups.
Just need to get maybe 1 more can of the red for the cowl, diff black for the engine, and the clear.
So probably 2 weeks from Friday I can finish buying the paint and clear.
Do that work and she will be 100% if no more problems arise! :thumb:
off topic.
but after 8 hrs of work, thought I would share a little teaser of my current and next project when I cant work on the bike or when its done.
8 hrs preparing the dining room for new flooring and still not ready yet.
Just laid some of the panels down to see how its going to look.
$250 worth and its only going to cover pretty much the one room + a few extra planks.
Guess in 2 weeks, I better get up there and buy another $250 worth to make sure I have enough for the living room.
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/64787_3444724118054_1269150161_33226775_742978778_n.jpg)
back on topic.
Just paid for the Gimbel headlight cowl adidas was selling. :thumb:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Neue-Gimbel-Lampen-Verkleidung-fur-SUZUKI-GS-500-E-/260795027804?pt=Motorrad_Kraftradteile&hash=item3cb898515c
Cant wait to get it and see how its going to look in person on My bike. (instead of just pics of others)
Probably going to see if I can get a black 3D effect Suzuki decal for the front of it like the silver one in the pics on the ebay site.
All my monthly bills were just paid.
So in 2 weeks I'll be buying the rest of the paint I need, as well as the sweet clear I used last time that I have to buy online.
Finish up everything that needs repainting, touching up, and initial painting, shine up the slip-on and if shes mechanically 100%... she will be Finished!
(edit)
now to hope its mechanically good and the gaskets come by mid next week.
as im off Weds Thurs & Friday.
MMmm lovin those temps in north east Pa!!
(http://local.wnep.com/transfers/7day.jpg)
Well at least she (the bike) Wont back away when the going gets tough from all the love you put into her, Im sure she wont want to let you down. Im sure she will be awesome. I wish spring was here already so I can get my bike out. Theres just to much snow for now.
Good luck on getting those gaskets.
Cheers
Well Still no dang gaskets yet! >:( >:( >:(
Been sooooo nice out!
even my friends that ride that were nonexistent last year to ride are buggin me to get out now!!
little bit of painting done.
sanded down the scratched up areas of my frame and redid a few light coats of the black again.
will do more of that tomorrow.
one thing I read tho...
the black im using is enamel.
I read earlier ur not supposed to clear coat certain types or that its hard to and get it to look good.
and honestly, it looked better Before I clear coated it.
so the sections I resprayed, if they look better then it was before... not gonna bother with the clear.
sanded down the slip-on and painted the front area where it goes into the exhaust pipe black as it was rusty.
and then BS'd with a friend that stopped by on his black 07 or 08 GSXR 750 to check my bike out finally.
sat on the bike and WOW!!
even tho its only like 20 pounds lighter then a GS500, it literally felt like 100 pounds lighter!
I was like holy Snits!
gonna be as nice until Friday.
just hope my gaskets arrive Tomorrow!
as I dont care, that sucker IS getting going!
this weather is Torture!
dunno, i just feel its finally going to all come together. (just a hunch)
(edit)
its tuesday and nope.. no gaskets.
startin to get really mad too.
probably the dumb manufacturer is still havin trouble finding or gettin those little O rings between the cylinders and head.
only wish I had someone to call and yell at hahahaha as its not the dealers fault.
2nd gorgeous day wasted..... :cry:
(edit)
just got done finishing up all the painting I can do right now.
Frame is back to being 100% Sweet!
Painted the custom GS500 chain guard red to match. ( came out GREAT! )
Finished sanding and polishing the slip-on, and painting the front of it black.
and went over all the black non metal with mothers back to black.
she is now 100% done as for what I have that I can do.
only waiting on 4 things.
Gaskets.
Gimbel Cowl.
Parts from Cbr
and better engine paint.
no pics tho.
I hate taking pics when the tank, plastics, and the top of the motor isnt on.
parts look alot better on a fully assembled bike.
So I will be taking more photos once I have it back together and running.
then when I get and paint the headlight cowl.
going to make a detailed video of everything i've done, vs the crappy one I made before.
going to explain everything this time.
(edit for Weds 3/14)
Still no dang gaskets!!!
ugh my impatience is turning into anger! hahaha
Hell yeah! :thumb:
Dealer said yesterday the gaskets"Should" be there today.
Just checked the tracking of cbrs package and thats coming today too instead of tomorrow. :thumb:
so now once I get both, the engine will be 100% complete :thumb:
bare in mind, no more problems arise.
vs gaskets today and cbrs parts tomorrow, now its all today. (if gaskets arrive)
kk peppers last night creepin up!
time to RUN to the can!!!!
(edit)
and thats a Big hell no!
gaskets didnt F'in arrive today ><
last time im ordering anything thru anywhere or anyone but my own computer!
kk just got back home.
parts were here from Cbr :thumb: thanks man!! :bowdown:
also, my patience has run OUT!
I stopped at a local auto parts store and grabbed some copper gasket spray.
if the gaskets do not arrive tomorrow.... the heck with waiting any longer!!!
I will just clean up my old gasket and spray it on and use it when it fully dries.
did some extensive reading on it and more pros then cons by a TON!
I can always swap them back out for the ones im waiting on when im bored one day.
but im sick of waiting any longer.
I never order anything through anyone but my computer nowadays. I remember going to the honda dealer and ordering something and they wanted me to pay for it first, then called me two weeks later to tell me it was in. pfffff. Too much available online to waste my time that way nowadays.
Glad parts got there sir. I hope whichever way you do the gasket,...it works once and for all and you are into the home stretch.
and thats exactly what I did.
paid and they ordered them.
but its not their fault, its who is shipping it to them.
they were or are having trouble getting the little O rings between the cylinders and head.
well, its 11:30 and no call.
which is after the deliveries have arrived....
so no go today either ><
seriously tho, NEVER EVERRRR again!
I dont care whos fault it is.
Im ordering this crap myself, even if I have to pay a lil extra for shipping.
as far as redoing the gasket myself.... not today.
so they have more time for it to arrive.
its damp and dreary out and just killin my mood.
so I have a lil more patience today.
still ticked this is my 5th day off in a row and I couldnt ride as the past 4 days have been the nicest all year!
off next Thurs fri sat and sun, so they have until Weds now.
then I ask for the manufacturers number and SNAP!!!
(edit)
suns coming out it seems.
haha this dang things got my mood up and down like a rollercoaster.
heck with it.
i'll at least get the gasket ready if i change my mind.
I also used to do the dealer thing. I found intime it was cheaper and faster if I order my parts online. Sometimes it was even faster ordering in the states and having to wait for it to get accross the border. I stopped ordering from the dealer also because they gave my part away when I had waited 2 weeks to get it. Boy was I mad. Forget them, the States is the way to go. God Bless America. :)
yep and HAHAHAHAHAHAHA totally messed up I tell ya!
Cleaned my old gasket and sprayed it with the copper gasket.
hung it up to dry while I ran for another qrt of oil.
got back, prepped Everything and was about to start putting it back together and guess who calls....
Dealer calls... ur gaskets are here.
ugh coulda been done by the time I will get back home.
but im happy. off I go.
update later on progress.
Quote from: Tombstones81 on March 08, 2012, 06:02:11 PM
off topic.
but after 8 hrs of work, thought I would share a little teaser of my current and next project when I cant work on the bike or when its done.
8 hrs preparing the dining room for new flooring and still not ready yet.
Just laid some of the panels down to see how its going to look.
$250 worth and its only going to cover pretty much the one room + a few extra planks.
Guess in 2 weeks, I better get up there and buy another $250 worth to make sure I have enough for the living room.
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/64787_3444724118054_1269150161_33226775_742978778_n.jpg)
I would love to see a small section of the original pine sanded down. I've seen houses in Seattle sand their 80 year old pine and it is awesome. Sure - not perfect and brand new but that old growth wood has a certain beauty - even with old nail holes, dings and stains.
Just for giggles - sand a 3' area and throw on a little finish. Please?
^^^ I wouldnt mind doing that, when I get around to going at it again.
been just TOO nice out to be kept indoors.
if I remember that is, brain is on PI$$ED OFF right now!!
WELL!!!!
got everything installed Just fine!
battery was chargin for a few hours but when I went to crank it, it seemed to not have enough juice.
So I hooked it up to the non running car for a sec.
Cranked Right over.
sounded GREAT!
BUT!
GDAMM SON OF A B&*!@!&#*&!# !&*@#!*!# :2guns: :2guns: :2guns: :flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff: >:( >:( >:( :technical: :technical: :technical:
SAME FRIGGIN LEAK AGAIN!!!!!!!!!
Brand new OEM gasket too!
sorry I AM 100000% PI$$ED OFF!!!
hell with it!
tomorrow, ALL OVER AGAIN!
going to put my old gasket that I used the copper gasket spray on in it.
heres the location yet AGAIN!
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/459.jpg)
thats enough for today.
as I swear, if I had a gun, I would be shooting the heck out of that bike right now!
whats even worse, took it around the block.
figure a lil heat might help.
rode even better then all the previous times.
she was literally 100% now except for that DAMM LEAK!!!!
oh and this time it was FARRRRRR worse!
even the idle wasnt really hanging at all.
kk time to go CHUG a few beers and take a shower and relax.
as im seriously about to go off!!
Are there any nicks, scrapes or other irregularities in the gasket mating surface in that area?
-Jessie
None that I noticed at all
I'll go over everything and make sure it's all ok
Ticked that I wasted 3 hrs tho
You're probably getting a bit faster each time at least ;) Wouldn't hurt to check it with a straight edge to make sure nothing is warped.
-Jessie
Tomb I'm sure if they had a 'break your GS engine down and put it all back together' contest for the quickest time, you'd be the winner!
Quote from: cbrfxr67 on March 16, 2012, 07:30:07 PM
Tomb I'm sure if they had a 'break your GS engine down and put it all back together' contest for the quickest time, you'd be the winner!
yes Im sure I would! hahahahahaa :cookoo:
Well, back home now.
Time to put my filthy oily jeans back on and go at it yet Again!
Going to put the lower cylinder gasket back in that was there originally when I first took it apart.
Its been coated with the copper gasket spray and had plenty of time to dry.
Im more confident in that working then a brand new one.
we'll see.
But!
at least im in a better mood today and now even better yet!
Out for Delivery
Plymouth , PA
^^ my gimbel cowl from adidas shipping status :bowdown: :thumb:
2 days early :thumb:
too bad it wont be here by the time I go outside to start the work.
or else I would put it on and take some pics.
hopefully everything is 100% and back together later so I can put it on.
no paint for it until Friday tho.
(edit)
actually I have to check.
I might have enough in the one can of red I have left for a single coat to start with and leave it cure until Friday and finish it off when I buy more.
took That long to take the whole top end off.
well about 15/20 mins cleaning up the oily mess.
gasket cant be reused if I wanted to.
crap was flaking off everywhere.
I torque'd it down correctly.
I guess I will make 100% sure those WRETCHED copper washers are not getting stuck and not allowing the bolts to fully tighten to the head.
and what took me so long yet again to take it apart, ugh i HATE those copper washers!!!!
taking a quick smoke break as its friggin Hot directly in the sun.
also to add, found out what scraped the other cylinders (the right cylinder) vertically.
the long circular whatever that goes thru the piston wasnt fully in all the way.
it was just a Teeny bit out.
pushed it in and its fine now.
kk back to work!
(edit)
and im confident I just didnt push it in all the way myself and thought I did.
and it didnt do that from a mishap with the bike.
got it back together.
same as usual, started up fine, went around the block just fine.
got back, still a slight leak in the same spot.
but, I dont give a funk!
going to go at it from the outside this time "for now"
and just put some liquid gasket on it and go for a ride today and see how it holds up.
I know its a Temporary fix, but I dont care!
im going to try it anyway, no matter what anyone tells me. (sorry im pretty fed up)
but not as much as before as its only slightly dripping now vs almost Pouring out before.
i'll do that as soon as it cools and ride it around locally for a few hours.
then tomorrow retorque the engine bolts and maybe that will do it.
Got the gimbel headlight cowl tho :thumb:
Thanks adidas!
already did enough work for today tho.
so im just going to put it in the closet until Friday when I can begin painting it.
kk time to go get busy, wash up, then go for a ride.
(edit)
and everything is flat and straight.
and the mating surfaces were brand new clean when I got done with them!
so all thats left that I can come up with is run it for a few hours, then tomorrow tighten the bolts up again.
WAS going to take it for a nice ride.
got to the other side of town and looked down....
Oil all over the left side cover.
Leak got worse.
Might even be leaking from the middle rods that go up where u put the engine nut on.
i dont know.
but its time to throw in the friggin towel.
tomorrow, I will torque those bolts down as hard as i can just for the hell of it.
but that is the VERY LAST thing I will F'IN DO!
seriously, I am DONE touching that GDAMM bike!
props given for sticking it out so long but thats all she wrote!
I am either replacing the entire F'IN motor.
or getting an SV650!
I simply do not care anymore.
its taking ALL i have not to ghost ride the bike into a brick wall.
now to go out and have a few beers!
Actually how important is getting the correct amount of torque on those engine bolts?
My torque wrench is messed up so I'm most likely off on it
Thanks
The torque value is important but it is more important that the bolts are tightened equally so the load is spread out correctly. If you are going to tighten them more without a torque wrench, mark the head of the bolt and turn each one the same amount.
-Jessie
Well, I guess I have to wait on a torque wrench now.
Its my last Possible thing I can come up with that is wrong.
That I was/am either tightening them too much or too loose before.
one or the other.
this time I think too tight.
If its not the torque, then I honestly have Absolutely No friggin idea what could possibly be wrong. (without considering a bad gasket)
I cleaned up the mating surfaces so nicely, I did not notice a single imperfection.
boss at work said maybe a crack (didnt see a single indication of one)
and the location of the leak
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/459.jpg)
the initial leak that I notice is right below the area with the numbers/letters on it in the middle of the bottom of the cylinders.
but then I have to also consider, maybe its in the crevices beside the middle part where the engine rods (or whatever they are called) go up through the cylinders and head, where you put the nut on top and torque it down.
I just cant come up with any single thing except for a torque problem.
It was 100% fine before I broke the exhaust valve.
since then, I havnt done a single thing that could possibly cause a problem.
as far as running the bike that is.
I mean I dunno if I could mess anything up by over torquing those nuts.
seriously tho, I Really need some advice on all possibilities.
as im going nuts and if I get a working torque wrench and do it all 100% properly and it Still leaks....
then im going to go bonkers even worse!
because that will be my last possible cause of the problem.
One thing I am doing tho.
Pinching my pennies from here on out.
Seriously going to be on the lookout for a new motor.
and preferably a direct swap vs whatever changes with the newer ones.
that will be hard to find in this area tho.
at least going by the number of members in north east Pa (which is only me on the map thread)
I am ready to drive for a deal tho if it comes to it.
but I would prefer no more then a 3 hr drive.
we'll see how it goes.
and lastly.
I apologize for losing it yet again!
Hard work is supposed to pay off.
the hell with knowledge being the only reward!
I've put more time, effort, work, sweat, blood, and money into this project then literally Anything Ever before.
So the endless problems are just building and building and building the stress up, making my snapping point even worse then the last each time.
(edit)
here is an up close pic of where im talking about
was browsing motors on ebay.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/KGrHqVlkE9Kf31rBBPStBSPW360_57.jpg)
its been leaking at first and the most from right below the plate with those numbers/letters.
but im also unsure if its leaking in the crevices on the sides of that plate as well. (where u see the rod going up to the left behind and just above the plate with the numbers and letters)
I'll be checking it even more when I wake up later.
not much room to stick my head in there to see.
i'll see what I can do later
Quote from: Tombstones81 on March 17, 2012, 10:39:58 AM
took That long to take the whole top end off.
well about 15/20 mins cleaning up the oily mess.
gasket cant be reused if I wanted to.
crap was flaking off everywhere.
I torque'd it down correctly.
I guess I will make 100% sure those WRETCHED copper washers are not getting stuck and not allowing the bolts to fully tighten to the head.
and what took me so long yet again to take it apart, ugh i HATE those copper washers!!!!
taking a quick smoke break as its friggin Hot directly in the sun.
also to add, found out what scraped the other cylinders (the right cylinder) vertically.
the long circular whatever that goes thru the piston wasnt fully in all the way.
it was just a Teeny bit out.
pushed it in and its fine now.
kk back to work!
(edit)
and im confident I just didnt push it in all the way myself and thought I did.
and it didnt do that from a mishap with the bike.
that round thing that goes into the piston is the gudgeon/wrist pin. Did you replace the circlip that holds it on? They are full float pins, just pushing it in will not keep it there. It will come back out and destroy the cylinder walls.
Quote from: Tombstones81 on November 16, 2011, 01:08:43 AM
Been thinking I probably want something other then a plain colored tank or a Suzuki sticker on the side.
Lightly browsing but never found anything I really liked.
Popped in my head when asking about paint in the general thread.
Going to have my nephew see if his friend can make me a custom sticker of
http://www.wickedjester.com/wickedjester_com_12.gif
or
http://www.wickedjester.com/wickedjester_com_24.gif
Wicked Jester makes up about 90% of my Tshirt wear. lol
Love the sayings and designs.
not sure how they will look tho.
if bad, will just toss them on my car windows or computer case.
(edit)
and maybe even
http://www.wickedjester.com/wickedjester_com_31.gif
in the top front of the tank as well, if it wont be too much (too many decals that is)
, !
This is a pic that I took of my wife (the GS owner) about 2 yrs ago, love their stuff! :thumb:
(http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n606/RealViciousTwin/wickedjester.jpg)
tomb i could send you my dial torque wrench or get you a 'clicker' from work or we have new style digital torque adapters that you put on your regular ratchet too.
(http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/4/3/0/9/1/9/webimg/537370142_o.jpg?nc=357)
Happy to help, just let me know,...
you've helped More then enough Cbr! thanks :bowdown: :thumb:
I'll just get one from auto zone for like $15 / $20.
Only problem is, after payin bills, im flat broke. haha
so im either heading out to borrow some money off my pops or waiting til Friday.
(edit)
well, no luck on the torque wrench I wanted.
went to hmm like 6 friggin stores!
Pep Boys had the one I wanted but not the right socket size.
if harbor freight doesnt have the one I want, i'll just buy that one and get an adapter.
heres the one I want as I had no luck with the other dial kind.
(http://beergarage.com/imgs/GS/HeadOn/121.jpg)
oh and actually, the leak is a blessing.
thanks dropitlow
No I did not replace that ring that holds it in.
it completely slipped my mind.
so then yes, it leaking again is a blessing as if it didnt... i would have kept riding and ROYALLY F'ed my cylinder up because of that missing ring.
oddly enough i am glad now that it didnt work out and still leaked.
so now sometime between tomorrow and Thursday.
I will take it apart again and put that ring back in the side of the piston.
then use the last brand new OEM gasket I have below the cylinders.
and use a torque wrench to 100% properly install everything back together.
then I am actually 100% certain it will be allllll good!
might pi$$ me off from time to time because I cant see what and how he sees but the lord plays some crazy games I tell ya!
cant believe im grateful for that leak now and for drops reminder :thumb:
(edit)
nope harbor freight does not have the torque wrench I want that I posted a pic of above.
one more local auto parts store to stop in tomorrow.
if they dont have it, gotta get the one at pep boys and get an adapter.
Quote from: Tombstones81 on March 18, 2012, 12:43:55 PM
you've helped More then enough Cbr! thanks :bowdown: :thumb:
I'll just get one from auto zone for like $15 / $20.
Only problem is, after payin bills, im flat broke. haha
so im either heading out to borrow some money off my pops or waiting til Friday.
(edit)
well, no luck on the torque wrench I wanted.
went to hmm like 6 friggin stores!
Pep Boys had the one I wanted but not the right socket size.
if harbor freight doesnt have the one I want, i'll just buy that one and get an adapter.
heres the one I want as I had no luck with the other dial kind.
(http://beergarage.com/imgs/GS/HeadOn/121.jpg)
oh and actually, the leak is a blessing.
thanks dropitlow
No I did not replace that ring that holds it in.
it completely slipped my mind.
so then yes, it leaking again is a blessing as if it didnt... i would have kept riding and ROYALLY F'ed my cylinder up because of that missing ring.
oddly enough i am glad now that it didnt work out and still leaked.
so now sometime between tomorrow and Thursday.
I will take it apart again and put that ring back in the side of the piston.
then use the last brand new OEM gasket I have below the cylinders.
and use a torque wrench to 100% properly install everything back together.
then I am actually 100% certain it will be allllll good!
might pi$$ me off from time to time because I cant see what and how he sees but the lord plays some crazy games I tell ya!
cant believe im grateful for that leak now and for drops reminder :thumb:
(edit)
nope harbor freight does not have the torque wrench I want that I posted a pic of above.
one more local auto parts store to stop in tomorrow.
if they dont have it, gotta get the one at pep boys and get an adapter.
glad I could help. that coulda been really ugly
dont forget to put some rags or shop towels under the pistons before attempting to put that little ring in. that ring can go flying at the worst moment.
Quote from: oz353 on March 18, 2012, 05:58:10 PM
dont forget to put some rags or shop towels under the pistons before attempting to put that little ring in. that ring can go flying at the worst moment.
hahaha that lesson as well has already been learned. (the hard way as always)
dropped one of the copper washers down the middle of the engine like 2 months ago.
had to get a new oil pan gasket.
so I will be def putting a towel below the piston
tnx tho :)
Quote from: dropitlow88 on March 18, 2012, 05:21:24 PMglad I could help. that coulda been really ugly
+1. Good thing you caught that for him. That's what you call a save!
kk back home from work.
2nd store I stopped at within 2 miles of work omw home had the beam type torque wrench.
but only had 1/2 size, so I had to buy a 1/2 to 3/4 adapter like I would have if I went to pep boys.
Paid $4 more then I would have at pep boys cause its on sale there but I would have used more then that in gas going to that store vs simply omw home from work.
going to go pay homage to the toilet gods, then get that wench DONE today!
going to toss the pin back in the side of the piston.
clean the mating surfaces again and put my last new oem gasket in.
then CORRECTLY torque down the engine bolts this time!
Then there should be Absolutely No reason for it to leak!
as I cant find Anything else wrong with it.
If it does leak again.....
Then I honestly think a new motor is in store for me.
kk will update later, and hopefully its not full of &*^^@^@*&%*(#
Glad you found the tq wrench. Do you think that's why you had that bad scratch in the other cylinders, because of that missing ring dropit mentioned?
I'm too slow, i pick up a torque wrench yesterday like the one in your pic at Sears for $11 on sale. if i would have known i would have picked up another one and just have you buy it from me.
Yeah cbr thats what scratched up the other cylinders.
WELL!
bad news.....
Still leaking but slower.
and yeah I over torqued the engine nuts the last few times.
no leaks from the one same area below the cylinders.
but one leak still remains.
it looks like its coming from above the letters/numbers now (probably was before as well)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/KGrHqVlkE9Kf31rBBPStBSPW360_57.jpg)
doesnt appear to be coming from above that area, so im guessing its to the sides?
my heads too dang big to stick in there with the front tire on.
SO!
hell with it!
its time for a whole new motor.....
probably going to take me until the end of the summer to locate a good direct swap within 2 or 3 hrs driving range from me ><
so thats the route im taking, unless I find an SV650 that I can finance (doubtful as im rebuilding my credit)
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thunderstorm atm just as I got done and cleaned up.
tomorrow I will take the front rim off and let it run after cleaning up all the oil.
hopefully i'll be able to specifically locate it.
but honestly.
it doesnt look good.
we have some uv dye that you can add to the oil, then run it,..after it starts leaking, put on the uv glasses and use the uv light and you can see a bright green glow from exactly where the dye is. I'll send you some if you want to try it? Or you could use a videoscope like bombsquad used in his tank restoration thread? I got one of those too if you want to give it shot? I hate to see you abandon all your work on this.
thanks.
but after work tomorrow.
I am just going to clean up the engine, take off the front rim so I can get my head directly in front of the engine, then slap it with some flour to locate the leak.
honestly, if its anything but the head gasket.. the engine is then DONE!
if its leaking in the crevices behind and to the sides of that numbers/letters plate, then thats all she wrote.
as if thats happening, then I think theres something wrong with the rods u slide the cylinder and head section down on.
gfs friend wants to look at it this weekend tho.
but after so much work, I doubt he will find anything that I missed thats minor.
so saturday night after that is when I will post wanted ads on all craigslist locations within 3 hrs drive.
im not mad like I've been tho.
I've done ALL I can.
I just have some bad freakin luck.
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well I did snap some photos before I started taking it apart.
as pointless as they are, heres something to look at...
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/100_0036.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/100_0035.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/100_0034.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/100_0037.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/100_0038.jpg)
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additional note tho.
gfs other friend she spoke to also offered around $1500 to $2000 for it.
even tho he did not research, see it yet, or speak to me.
doubt he would still offer that in the end
but as I told her, after the amount of work and money i've put into this thing.
I would probably much sooner see it sit uncovered and Rust before I see someone else get lucky (unlike me) and have it running 100% with a mere few bucks.
Its just VERY hard to even consider that offer when I havnt even been able to appreciate and actually Enjoy my hard work.
and even harder to see someone else enjoy it when I REALLY wanted to.
Quote from: Tombstones81 on March 19, 2012, 05:32:39 PM
thanks.
but after work tomorrow.
I am just going to clean up the engine, take off the front rim so I can get my head directly in front of the engine, then slap it with some flour to locate the leak.
honestly, if its anything but the head gasket.. the engine is then DONE!
if its leaking in the crevices behind and to the sides of that numbers/letters plate, then thats all she wrote.
as if thats happening, then I think theres something wrong with the rods u slide the cylinder and head section down on.
gfs friend wants to look at it this weekend tho.
but after so much work, I doubt he will find anything that I missed thats minor.
so saturday night after that is when I will post wanted ads on all craigslist locations within 3 hrs drive.
im not mad like I've been tho.
I've done ALL I can.
I just have some bad freakin luck.
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well I did snap some photos before I started taking it apart.
as pointless as they are, heres something to look at...
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/100_0036.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/100_0035.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/100_0034.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/100_0037.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/100_0038.jpg)
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additional note tho.
gfs other friend she spoke to also offered around $1500 to $2000 for it.
even tho he did not research, see it yet, or speak to me.
doubt he would still offer that in the end
but as I told her, after the amount of work and money i've put into this thing.
I would probably much sooner see it sit uncovered and Rust before I see someone else get lucky (unlike me) and have it running 100% with a mere few bucks.
Its just VERY hard to even consider that offer when I havnt even been able to appreciate and actually Enjoy my hard work.
and even harder to see someone else enjoy it when I REALLY wanted to.
hey tomb, did you install the base gasket upside down by any chance? and what about the little neoprene washers that go between the head and cylinders? were they there? the only other thing i can think of is base warpage, which can be fixed at any good machine shop for way less than a new engine. even sourcing a new set of cylinders on fleabay would be way cheaper than a new engine. keep your patience, save your dollars and keep at it. when you finally do get it right you will have much respect for it and much knowledge gained. i'm still fighting my watering pail of a gas tank :2guns: and carbs that are driving me insane!! :cookoo: but i, like you could not stand to see someone else having a blast on it when i wasn't ready to get rid of it. Your persistence will pay off. no throwing in the towel when the finish line is in sight. You'll figure it out :thumb:
Quote from: dropitlow88 on March 19, 2012, 06:27:18 PM
Quote from: Tombstones81 on March 19, 2012, 05:32:39 PM
thanks.
but after work tomorrow.
I am just going to clean up the engine, take off the front rim so I can get my head directly in front of the engine, then slap it with some flour to locate the leak.
honestly, if its anything but the head gasket.. the engine is then DONE!
if its leaking in the crevices behind and to the sides of that numbers/letters plate, then thats all she wrote.
as if thats happening, then I think theres something wrong with the rods u slide the cylinder and head section down on.
gfs friend wants to look at it this weekend tho.
but after so much work, I doubt he will find anything that I missed thats minor.
so saturday night after that is when I will post wanted ads on all craigslist locations within 3 hrs drive.
im not mad like I've been tho.
I've done ALL I can.
I just have some bad freakin luck.
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well I did snap some photos before I started taking it apart.
as pointless as they are, heres something to look at...
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/100_0036.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/100_0035.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/100_0034.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/100_0037.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/100_0038.jpg)
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additional note tho.
gfs other friend she spoke to also offered around $1500 to $2000 for it.
even tho he did not research, see it yet, or speak to me.
doubt he would still offer that in the end
but as I told her, after the amount of work and money i've put into this thing.
I would probably much sooner see it sit uncovered and Rust before I see someone else get lucky (unlike me) and have it running 100% with a mere few bucks.
Its just VERY hard to even consider that offer when I havnt even been able to appreciate and actually Enjoy my hard work.
and even harder to see someone else enjoy it when I REALLY wanted to.
hey tomb, did you install the base gasket upside down by any chance? and what about the little neoprene washers that go between the head and cylinders? were they there? the only other thing i can think of is base warpage, which can be fixed at any good machine shop for way less than a new engine. even sourcing a new set of cylinders on fleabay would be way cheaper than a new engine. keep your patience, save your dollars and keep at it. when you finally do get it right you will have much respect for it and much knowledge gained. i'm still fighting my watering pail of a gas tank :2guns: and carbs that are driving me insane!! :cookoo: but i, like you could not stand to see someone else having a blast on it when i wasn't ready to get rid of it. Your persistence will pay off. no throwing in the towel when the finish line is in sight. You'll figure it out :thumb:
I still got my tank for sale :D
Good words from dropit. And those pics look so nice. I don't like it when a bunch of accessories get added into the paint mix, but it looks right tomb. You pulled it off. Don't give up on it.
Like mine, it wouldn't start for crap this weekend and I felt that tomb :mad: rage coming on, but I'm going to keep at it till I get it. My jacka** tank issue has been going on for longer than I want to remember but I'm going to get it too.
It's your build and your time but I'm hoping you'll keep at it.
I'm sorry, but I must leave you with a screechy rendition:
DONT STOP- BELIEEEVIN'- HOLD ON TO THAT FEEE-EEEEE-EEAHLIN!
Seriously. Its an oil leak, you got dis.
GAH! Tomb! You're breakin my heart man.
Keep at it dude!
hahahahaha
all the gaskets are installed correctly.
I would bash my head off a wall if I mixed something up in the upper part of the engine at this point.
Also, the little O rings are brand new and installed correctly. (they are what held up my order from the dealer)
Well I did make progress yesterday.
the lower cylinder gasket isnt leaking. hahaha
didnt go over it this morning to find the exact location of the leak.
too tired after work.
I did tho, put some liquid gasket on the sections I think are leaking.
the tube was cold from being outside so it didnt run all over at all.
so it should be nice and dry by the time I wake up and start her up.
mainly did that just because I want to at Least get a day or two of riding in to calm me down to keep pushing forward.
but if there is no leaks for however length of time, then I will have narrowed down the leak location.
I just hope its something stupid like the upper cylinder gasket now... hahaha
and not the rod locations that go through the upper engine.
because for how many times i've taken it apart... maybe one or some got bent and thats causing it.
we'll see.
but im still going to keep an eye out for another engine.
even if this one ends well, I just dont trust it now and not sure I ever will.
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and I know its "only an oil leak"
but when I do everything over and over and over and over again and end up doing it 100% for certain the last time...
Im starting to think its more then "Just a leak"
at this point im almost convinced theres something majorly wrong that im missing.
which sucks because mechanically, everytime I put her back together, she runs GREAT!
okay!
things are looking up atm.
found the oil leak.
bad news, its going to cost me to eliminate ALL possibilities.
probably like $120 to $150 on Friday.
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=59643.0
going to replace the cylinder gaskets again since I have to take it apart AGAIN!
need new copper washers. (ones below engine bolts)
and new rods just incase they are not straight and true anymore from all the engine work.
http://www.cheapcycleparts.com/model_years/3546-suzuki-1994--gs500e/assemblies/124878
getting Four #2's and #3's.
Might be just the front middle 2 leaking because of the rods or washers, but im going to be safe and replace them ALL.
is she leaks after ALL of that....
then there literally WILL be absolutely Nothing else I can do.
and Will be replaced.
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ugh only thing I hate about that...
if I double or a lil more then double that cost.. I could just replace the motor.. hahahaha
would have to get lucky locally first tho, which isnt me. haha
I haven't taken the cylinder studs out of a "new" motor like yours, but they can be tight as heck. If you get one that doesn't break loose easily, either take it to a shop or leave it and hope for the best.........
^^ yeah.
actually first I am going to see if they are all still straight before I spend money I might not have to.
will be taking it apart again tomorrow or thursday after work.
whenever im in the mood to.
I wanna pin this down as a what I have to buy to fix, or put it aside as spare parts and put money away for a new motor.
before I go buying anything I dont have to.
Quote from: Tombstones81 on March 20, 2012, 06:29:43 PM
^^ yeah.
actually first I am going to see if they are all still straight before I spend money I might not have to.
will be taking it apart again tomorrow or thursday after work.
whenever im in the mood to.
I wanna pin this down as a what I have to buy to fix, or put it aside as spare parts and put money away for a new motor.
before I go buying anything I dont have to.
heres my new and improved idea. buy a quart of boat gel coat, spray the entire engine with 3 coats and enjoy! Lol. just kidding. Those copper washers are the culprit. Studs straight or not. Wren you torque them down the force between the washer and the head/nut will seal off any irregularitys (with new copper washers of course). Copper is very soft and malleable. It doesn't take much to make a seal, also why they can't be used again. Dab some engine oil on them when you install to keep things moving smoothly and keep them from scuffing. You'll be back on the road in no time.
Yea I've been thinking there is nothing else it could possibly be.
IF everything is 100% and im not missing anything.
I've been told multiple things and my heads starting to spin actually.
Keep being told replace the washers.
Then im being told those and the rods wouldnt cause an oil leak in that location.
but its leaking right where the 2 middle front rods go up through the cylinders on the bottom.
so if the engine isnt Funked, I can only come up with the washers and/or rods.
more then likely the washers.
I just dont know.
I wish there was someone on here that had the same issue.
as it seems im getting everyones thoughts, opinions, and knowledge instead of the best answer from hands on experience from the same issue.
Which I am grateful for, but as I said... my heads starting to spin! hahahaha :cookoo:
so!
instead of taking it all apart and wasting money on all new cylinder gaskets as they are fine.
LAST attempt will be Only buying the new washers.
Then loosening up the upper half of the engine a little bit to seat better with new washers but not enough to need to replace the gaskets.
and putting the new washers in and hope for the best.
if it doesnt work.
Replacing the engine will be done.
and since the washers are cheap.
I will continue to shop and ask around for another engine.
and thanks for the color scheme compliment Cbr :thumb:
its going to look ALOT better once I get that gimbel headlight cowl painted and installed.
Those just make it look almost like a totally different bike to me, and love it!
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was on the toilet thinking... hahaha
BEST spot to do so!
If my theory is correct then it Just might be only the copper washers.
okay, I have no book education on engines.
just common sense and hands on experience.
The rods that the cylinder and head slide down on.
Oil obviously doesnt go UP them.
which got me thinking....
the oil doesnt leak right away, it takes some time before it starts to.
soooo
maybe the oil is leaking through the copper washers from the top and slowly making its way down the rods and leaking out the bottom where its open in the front of the cylinders where its been leaking that I posted pics of.
making sense?
as I didnt see anyone put it in those terms yet.
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heres a simple visual of looking at what I mean.
Oils coming through the copper washers at the top.
Flowing down the rods, which are on the Outside of the internals.
and coming out the bottom in the pic below as the arrows are pointing.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/KGrHqVlkE9Kf31rBBPStBSPW360_57-3.jpg)
I still have yet to get my head directly in front of that spot and shine a flashlight right on it while its running tho.
to see if the oil truly is flowing Down the rods.
gotta take the front rim off first tho.
too tired atm so if I wake up early enough I will do just that.
if not, tomorrow.
(edit)
been up for like an hr and a half.
about to start storming so I guess taking the front rim off will have to wait til tomorrow morning.
(edit)
Update! :D
sorry boys and gals!
So far it looks like I will be replacing the motor.
Got a good deal on a running engine with what $$ I can spare this Friday.
Only problem that isnt really a problem.
Is its located near Pitt.
A lil further then I wanted but probably the Only location I would travel far to.
which is right near my brother that I have not seen in 4 years :)
so if everything pans out and I go to buy it, can stop by and see my bro for a night.
waiting for my dad to get here to talk about making the trip maybe this Saturday since I am off Thurs Fri Sat and Sun night.
because I just dont trust my 600 miles from 200K grand am to go that far! hahahaha
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kk its all good!
me, the gf, and her son are headed out to Pitt first thing Sat morning.
gonna get the engine, then head to my brothers afterwards for a cookout that we had planned at her place prior to all of this.
Wow, what a long post........
Being that the bike is down for the moment anyway, why not take one of the copper washers out and go to a hardware store? At least the one near me sells generic copper washers (so obviously not OEM specs). They aren't very expensive and might be just an hour or two start to finish.
:woohoo: Family reunion and another engine?! Rock on tomb!
nah on the generic copper washers.
I do plan to buy 8 new OEM ones Friday tho.
but sadly, that engine will not be in the frame when they arrive.
so I will simply put them away until I need them, if I ever do.
and hell yea cbr!
everything is lookin good.
as long as the motor is 100%, then I will be installing it on Sunday if it isnt pouring.
change the oil and filter in it, and hopefully be on the road Monday :thumb:
Reminds me as well, hopefully the gimbel cowl will be dry enough to mount Sunday as well when I paint it on Friday.
Then she will be finished to my standards for awhile.
Still want new grips, maybe new pegs, LEDs for the gauges and to illuminate the bike.
But that is FAR from being on my agenda for a few months.
Almost every extra penny I've had since I began all this in Nov has gone towards the bike.
So the engine and cowl make it complete for me to say enough is enough so I can concentrate on other things now.
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and yeah it was a long post.
I just kept editing it instead of constant bumping.
and oh yeah, forgot to say specifically why I went the motor replacement route instead of going at this one more.
In all honesty, im not giving up on it.
Its simply that my gut is telling me to replace it while I can.
Even tho Im going out to Pitt Saturday, I still plan to ride the bike out there sometime this summer.
Visit my bros family again out there and Oz from this site.
Then probably make my way down to NC to visit another friend and stop by and visit some more members omw down there. (baltimore & steezin are otw down to NC)
so a questionable motor going that far Really urks me
gimbel headlight cowl painted and cleared. (looks Great)
just not installed yet.
chain guard clear coated and the top handlebar clamps repainted and cleared. (forgot to last time)
now im out for the day and hopefully get the engine tomorrow :thumb:
motor was all good for not being able to test it in a frame :)
now sittin in the back of the suv while i relax at my bros.
azzy was a cool dude too!
def lookin forward to another person to ride with when I ride the bike out this way.
will update when I have everything installed
Quote from: Tombstones81 on March 24, 2012, 07:06:10 PM
motor was all good for not being able to test it in a frame :)
now sittin in the back of the suv while i relax at my bros.
azzy was a cool dude too!
def lookin forward to another person to ride with when I ride the bike out this way.
will update when I have everything installed
sweet! I'd keep that old engine for sure, lots of good useable parts in there still. Keep us updated, can't wait to see that thing going!
yeah I plan to wrap up and store the old engine.
I just need to take the right side cover off for the new engine. (the small one with the emblem)
other then that, just need to change the oil, wash it down and install it.
paint is really sweet too compared to how mine was and how it was after I repainted it.
just needs a good scrubbing.
kk headed home today sometime in the next few hrs.
hopefully i can get the engine in before it gets dark out.
Back home.
Ride back wasnt pleasant......
Borrowed my dads jack to make taking out the old and in the new engine easier.
Was about dark out when I got home tho.
and my dad just Had to say just wait until tomorrow when its totally light out so you dont mess anything up.
So now other then my mood being down (personal reasons), I have to wait because since he said that and if I did try to work on it tonight...
Something Would happen! hahaha
So tomorrow if its not raining, everything will be installed (gimbel cowl too)
Just hope when I hit that start button, that she purrs like a kitten.
then rides a tiger :thumb:
So, until tomorrow!
If everything is perfect... she will be DONE!
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actually.
If I remember.
I will take my camera out with me and film the first time I start the new motor when I put it in. (if it starts, im confident tho, seller was cool)
If it does, then I'll make the more detailed video of my work that I said I planned to do
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Heck with it!
Since I need but not in the mood to get drunk.
Only one other thing makes me smile!.... BIKE WORK! hahaha
Heck with it! im going outside to probably only take the old motor out.
if it goes Overly smooth with a jack this time instead of my 2 mitts (taking the motor out), I might consider just going all the way!
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvhm5zinKa1ql85u5.gif)
Quote from: cbrfxr67 on March 25, 2012, 07:31:32 PM
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvhm5zinKa1ql85u5.gif)
lol
hahahaha!
went smoothly so far.
old motors out and im just going over the new one.
atm the exhaust valves are .04 and Im pretty certain the intake were as well.
trying to find my whatever that measuring tool is called to measure the one shim that doesnt say what size it is.
Would like to get the exhaust valves a little looser.
havnt touched the intake yet to see what size they are.
only took the cover off because the tachometer plug that goes into the head is stuck.
So I was going to go at it from inside carefully, but figured I would check the valves too.
kk time to keep lookin for that sucker
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kk both intakes at .06 or .07 (dont have a .07 and .08 wont go in but .06 will)
exhausts are a little looser which is fine.
motor went in with Ease!
Head first and swing the rear end in, went in on the first try with my 2 mitts!
draining the oil while I hook the wiring back up.
spotted a lil bare spot on one of the wires.
so now im up here lookin for my electrical tape and then back at it!
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done for the night.
took the old motor out after disconnecting wires and taking things of I needed.
cleaned the new one up.
checked and adjusted the valves.
New motor in the bike.
Hooked up the wires.
drained then changed the oil and filter.
Put the stupid 16T stock sprocket on, the cover and adjusted the clutch cable.
Then said enough for the night.
gotta buy a new 15T front sprocket now ><
one from my 94 is too wide for this 89.
All I got left tomorrow is...
The carbs, cables and hoses.
tighten the chain slack.
put the exhaust on
Put the tank on and start her up!
if shes good.
bolt down the tank.
toss the plastics on.
and finish it off with the gimbel cowl :)
think thats all... freakin TIRED right now and cant think straight! hahaha
toss
congrats on the late night wrenching!!
i tried to finish unloading, but the rain picked up again. Today's forecast is nice and sunny, hope to see yer video of her starting up after work
Oh one thing i was thinking.. we need a video of you RIDING this bike! (http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/userpics/10404/t4019.gif)
the video of it running will be cool, but won't be pleasing as watching you grin from ear to ear while shifting some gears :thumb:
Steez said it right! Need victory video of you riding it Tomb! :rstar: :rstar: :rstar:
hahahaha too bad it wont be very soon ><
its ALWAYS something... be it random crap or my own mistakes...
oil filter cap bolt snapped, the male part sticking out. (bottom one)
Was probably already partially weakened as I Hardly put any pressure on it and I hear... Snap!
didnt think it broke last night.
but yes she started ( sorry I was in a hurry as I WANTED to ride to work for the 1:30 training)
but started leaking oil on the bottom of the oil filter cover and I noticed it broken right at the meeting point ><
looks like that video of redoing them is going to come in handy ><
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kk back home from training at work.
she started Right up, with the exception of some white smoke quite a bit at first from sitting and the lil bit of oil down the plugs to make sure the rings were lubed.
Sounded just fine and the smoke quickly went away.
MIGHT be a very slight leak in the top of the cylinders but I have to check further and its nothing to be concerned at all about.
didnt do anything else tho, the second I seen the oil leak and noticed the bolt snapped I shut it off, checked it over (broken too far in to put another bolt on) and got ready to go to work for an hr.
actually REALLY freaked me out when I seen drops of oil on the ground.
"Somewhat" relieved it was only the oil filter cover and MY fault partially. (partially cause I didnt really torque it down a whole lot)
kk going to search for that video of replacing those snapped rods on the oil filter cover.
Be nice if it was simple and the rods could be screwed out easily and I can just take one from my old motor.
I'll check the video.
Luckily tho it snapped right flush with the cover, so I should have some room to grab it when I take the cover off.
and yeah I'll have a more detailed video of what I can all recall of what I did to it once everything is installed and its clean enough to shoot. hahaha
Then one of it riding if anyones around to hold my camera, or else i'll go to a big parking lot like most do.
quote "actually REALLY freaked me out when I seen drops of oil on the ground."
You thought you dreamt the whole trip, putting the engine in etc and really you were seeing your same old oil leak dripping away??? Nooooooooooo-oooooo!
Quote from: cbrfxr67 on March 26, 2012, 12:53:03 PM
quote "actually REALLY freaked me out when I seen drops of oil on the ground."
You thought you dreamt the whole trip, putting the engine in etc and really you were seeing your same old oil leak dripping away??? Nooooooooooo-oooooo!
hahaha I was afraid of ANY major leak!
ok, just watched that video of the broken oil filter studs repair.
got enough to grab the broken one with vice grips and get it out.
then im just going to put one in from my old engine if the threads are all ok on everything.
not brand spankin new but I honestly dont think its going to be a problem.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aE_bntq_iE
that video.
God I love this site!
you all kick @$$! hahaha
I gotta say this again...
I wouldnt have been able to do all this if it wasnt for this site and its members.
and this specific problem now, I would probably be spending the entire day researching on what to do.
but instead, now im getting my filthy oil covered pants back on and going to Get Er Done! hahahaha
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well that went quick and smoothly....
But... HAHAHAHA
I broke another one the same way ><
was barely even tightening it, fine fine WONT happen a 3rd time!
taking a break while the engine and exhaust cools enough to swap another one. hahaha
Okay!
2 friggin oil filter cover studs replaced!
engine is all good (so far)
but one problem now.
It idles and chokes perfectly fine.
but no matter when, if I give it throttle, it bogs and dies.
if I open it up normally or faster, it just bogs and dies.
Very slowly, RPMs will raise then it starts to bog and dies unless I release the throttle.
then it idles normally.
sounds like a carb problem.
everything prior was 100% ok.
gas cap open did nothing.
fuel is flowing to the carbs.
even tho i've almost hit the reserve point (fuel is Still flowing Fine)
carbs were a real WENCH to get on the engine boots tho.
is there any difference between 94 carbs and 89s?
hopefully its just the throttle cable.
oh yeah.
noticed something with the old engine tho when I had the oil filter cap off taking the studs out.
there is 2 allen head bolts in there.
the one was loose.
not entirely sure what those are for.
but that mighta been the cause of my leak???
dont care about that atm tho.
any input on the current problem is appreciated.
as for todays work, im done.
beat and I have work tonight.
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got 2 extra sets of engine side carb booties.
so I will swap those out since it was so hard to get the carbs on.
also need to do a compression test but it sounded and felt fine.
oh yeah.
can slightly loose exhaust valves cause this?
they were both at .04.
I cant recall Clearly what the one was, but I know the other one was at like .13 or .013 whatever it is
oh yeah.. (always forget $h!t) ><
Plugs are fine
Quote from: Tombstones81 on March 26, 2012, 03:29:43 PM
Okay!
2 friggin oil filter cover studs replaced!
engine is all good (so far)
but one problem now.
It idles and chokes perfectly fine.
but no matter when, if I give it throttle, it bogs and dies.
if I open it up normally or faster, it just bogs and dies.
Very slowly, RPMs will raise then it starts to bog and dies unless I release the throttle.
then it idles normally.
sounds like a carb problem.
everything prior was 100% ok.
gas cap open did nothing.
fuel is flowing to the carbs.
even tho i've almost hit the reserve point (fuel is Still flowing Fine)
carbs were a real WENCH to get on the engine boots tho.
is there any difference between 94 carbs and 89s?
hopefully its just the throttle cable.
oh yeah.
noticed something with the old engine tho when I had the oil filter cap off taking the studs out.
there is 2 allen head bolts in there.
the one was loose.
not entirely sure what those are for.
but that mighta been the cause of my leak???
dont care about that atm tho.
any input on the current problem is appreciated.
as for todays work, im done.
beat and I have work tonight.
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got 2 extra sets of engine side carb booties.
so I will swap those out since it was so hard to get the carbs on.
also need to do a compression test but it sounded and felt fine.
oh yeah.
can slightly loose exhaust valves cause this?
they were both at .04.
I cant recall Clearly what the one was, but I know the other one was at like .13 or .013 whatever it is
oh yeah.. (always forget $h!t) ><
Plugs are fine
sounds like your main jets are plugged tomb. If your 94 carbs were good, put them on. They should be identical.
they are on.
I didnt buy the old carbs that were with the 89 current motor.
he had them and the wiring harness for sale with them but since I offered him much less then what he asked (only had that much), I only asked for what I needed.
I'll check them out when I take them off tomorrow to switch out those booties.
hopefully it is just a clog.
cause it wasnt being flooded when I would open the throttle and it would bog and die.
as the plugs were not wet and it didnt stank like gas.
kk, gotta head to work tho.
kk few updates even tho I posted in the general section.
Found the problem with the bike boggin and dieing when I hit the throttle, but hopefully the ONLY problem.
Top right cover on the carbs got cracked causing an air leak.
Since I do not have another one, I applied a nice layer of liquid cement glue to seal it to see if that fix's it. (waiting for it to dry atm)
and almost certain I found the cause of the oil leak in my previous engine...
my luck... AFTER I spend so much money going to Pitt for a new motor. hahaha
I dont care as if it is the cause, I now have 2 running engines <3
allen head bolt was Really loose in the oil filter location. (inside the motor)
Tightened it by hand a bit but then stopped so I can take a pic of it.
the left one
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/100_0061.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/100_0062.jpg)
So the old oil leak was the allen bolt? I may have read it wrong. What was the leak from, on the old one?
Quote from: cbrfxr67 on March 27, 2012, 02:32:50 PM
So the old oil leak was the allen bolt? I may have read it wrong. What was the leak from, on the old one?
no idea on what the bolts do, but if one was loose, I would assume it would cause a problem and the leak is the only problem atm with the old engine.
and it was leaking right in the back there where the arrows are pointing
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/KGrHqVlkE9Kf31rBBPStBSPW360_57-3.jpg)
Well, still troubleshooting....
one video posted on the general section and one failed to upload so im trying again...
but honestly, I have never been so close to considering either leaving it sit for good.
or taking that previous offer of near $2000 for the bike (if it isnt a joke)
so it better get up and running Very soon or I am not joking or simply venting this time.
So, your old engine, you figured out where the leak was and fixed? It was running good except for leaking right?
And it looks so nice in that video Tomb. I don't have sound, so didn't get to hear the expletives, darn!
Im not sure if tightening that bolt down will fix the leak.
Honestly, now im doubtful as another member posted he was missing both of his and had no leaks.
and i am NOT swapping another engine.
I am actually getting SICK of working on this bike.
God has a sick sadistic sense of humor for entertainment!
Hard work DOESNT pay off!
going to have the guy who offered around $2K texted soon and see if he is still interested.
then if it doesnt get fixed as it is now and soon... Bye Bye!
still troubleshooting but a change in motivation!
if the bike doesnt sell, then I am just going to rip the top end of this engine apart as well!
If it isnt a fuel problem atm tho, as to why it wont start now. (tank was low and gas looked cloudy)
Inspect, fully clean everything, and swap out anything thats in worse condition then the old motor.
and replace all the gaskets.
So, if the sale falls thru.
expect me to continue with the self torture! haha :cookoo:
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finally got ahold of him.
will know Saturday if he is going to buy it or not.
Not to derail the build stuff, but how many cans of the Metal Specks paint did you use?
I plan on using it also (different color) and wanted to get a feel for how many i should buy.
Quote from: ninjeff on March 29, 2012, 09:38:08 PM
Not to derail the build stuff, but how many cans of the Metal Specks paint did you use?
I plan on using it also (different color) and wanted to get a feel for how many i should buy.
no problem at all.
I would rather this thread go in ANY direction now other then my constant problems and b!tching.
but you didnt go into detail on all the parts you plan to paint.
Since it was my first time painting anything other then a brick wall, I was sure to purchase more then I thought I would need.
which luckily I was just about spot on.
every piece you see on the bike that is red took a total of about I would say 6 to 8 cans of it at $11 to $12 a pop.
I would honestly start off with 4 if you plan to do Alot and see how much you need after that.
and be sure to figure out different locations for Auto Zone, Advanced Auto and Possibly Pep Boys.
I cant recall if I bought any from pep boys but I know I bought cans from the other 2 stores.
and everytime I went, they only had 2 cans of each color on the shelf.
So I had to stop at 2 stores when I bough the 4 cans to start with.
what color you goin with?
The blue looks really good too and I wish I had something I could have used it on too.
and to give a rough estimate of how much 1 can sprays.
I painted the gimbel headlight cowl and the top clamps for the handlebars with 1 can.
when I painted the rear fairings (2 sides and small middle piece) front fender and the tank, I used about 3 cans.
add in a 4th for the misc. parts I also painted.
and if you mess up and need to repaint, pay attention to what you use.
I had to when the rear fairings didnt come out so good the first time.
I'll be going with the silver for the main color. Tank, front fender, rear plastics.
Black knee contour (haven't decided on gloss black or flat black) and red pin striping.
The sparkle silver is what i plan on using.
I'll need lots of misc. black too (top triple, bottom forks, head light, small odds and ends)
and probably one can of the "metal-cast" red for tiny accents.
Anyway, thank you! Now i at least can formulate a target budget.
why does everyone want or go with flat black?
Its as UGLY as my bike was from the PO's paint job with no clear coat!
haha
these wenches need some SHINE!
http://www.repaintsupply.com/pd_2_part_2k_aerosol.cfm
theres the BEST spray can clearcoat u can buy.
and the cheapest you can get it is right there. (I searched)
I have never liked flat black, it looks... like a kid did it with a spray can.
NOW, that being said, a person who can paint a good satin coat, maybe a two tone look, gets my attention.
Quote from: Funderb on March 30, 2012, 04:57:45 PM
I have never liked flat black, it looks... like a kid did it with a spray can.
NOW, that being said, a person who can paint a good satin coat, maybe a two tone look, gets my attention.
I think mine came out Perfectly for being a spray can job.
the red anyways.
and I can honestly say its mostly do to that very good clearcoat.
as I did the headlight cowl in a cheaper clear and it didnt turn out so good at all.
yes I plan to redo it if the sale falls thru.
I had mine done in flat black and i liked it, but i had it done by someone who does painting it for a living. When i get a set of F fairings for my bike i will go with a different color, thinking of white, because i will also be doing a different tail so i won't have any rear plastics on the bike. But i agree it you spray panting it flat black most come out looking like a 10 year old did it that's why i had someone do it that knows what they are doing.
Quote from: Tombstones81 on March 30, 2012, 01:29:13 PM
why does everyone want or go with flat black?
Its as UGLY as my bike was from the PO's paint job with no clear coat!
haha
these wenches need some SHINE!
http://www.repaintsupply.com/pd_2_part_2k_aerosol.cfm
theres the BEST spray can clearcoat u can buy.
and the cheapest you can get it is right there. (I searched)
Flat black only to contrast with the glossy shiny silver for me. But i'm not settled on that yet. Definitely doing black knee contours, but dunno flat or gloss.
kk Saturday is here :thumb:
time for bed for now.
wake up to hopefully a bike being sold :D
Nope, didnt pan out.
He was waiting to see how much it would cost to fix his car.
It ended up being Alot more then he thought.
oh well, the hell will continue! hahaha :cookoo:
haha, the love hate relationship continues,the gs's mentally abusive behavior shall not prevail!
Quote from: dropitlow88 on March 31, 2012, 12:50:03 PM
haha, the love hate relationship continues,the gs's mentally abusive behavior shall not prevail!
yeah, im just kinda depressed right now honestly.
not that it didnt sell.
Just my typical bad luck is getting to me.
aka: instead of either of us changing our minds, it was bad luck for both that his car has bigger problems.
I would have been fine if either of us changed our minds tho.
but when it comes to natural occurrences.... its always bad. hahaha
its all good as far as my bike goes.
i'll have the current funk fixed when I get to it again.
pretty certain the one intake valve is too tight now.
I had 155s in there when they were too loose, or 1 155 and something else, i forget at this point.
Wanted to swap 2 160s in it and be good but I could only find my one 160, so I put a 165 in the other.
Just to see if that fixed the failure to start problem.
which it did.
and of course, then I found my other 160 shim.
i'll put that in probably tomorrow morning when I wake up and hopefully be 100%.
if not, top end is coming apart!!!
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screw it!
Im in a crummy and bored mood.
Going to go out and do some work on it while its still light out.
after I pay homage to the porcelain gods :thumb: hahaha
nope! no good at all.
yeah, the one intake was loose.
Got it to .07 with a quick swap.
Now the same current problems and old ones appeared....
First, started fine and choked fine...
Then it began to bog and die again when I added throttle.
After a bit, it just died and didnt wanna start again.
When cranking, would backfire quite loudly out the exhaust.....
hell with it!
rippin this sumb!tch apart tomorrow!
starting with the head and inspecting the valves from ALL sides now.
but even if they are good, im putting my old head on it as i KNOW those are 100%!!!
as for the cylinders, pistons, and rings....
I'll be taking a look at them too.
but so far it def appears to be valve related as everytime I touch them, something goes amuck!
(edit)
and yes I plan to reuse the bolts and copper washers (FOR NOW!)
this top end appears as if it was never taken apart.
so im going to swap over what I have to and take EXTRAAAAA good care to take the copper washers out carefully and to put them all back in Exactly where I took them out from.
if it starts and runs 100% like my old engine... GREAT!
if a leak appears... fine, i'll replace the bolts and washers. (as long as its running 100%)
if no leaks appear, i'll order some anyways but give it time to see how it acts.
Sounds like a sticky valve. You got it right, swap head for known good head. beat that thing into submission! Make abusive threats involving a BFH! Lol
Yeah its def something with the valves.
As when I took that video going around the block (below) that was the second time around and it acted fine.
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=3581821105393
But then a little later when I got all geared up for a run around town... it acted up as if I didnt do anything to fix it.
its all good tho.
chillin for a few minutes, then im headed out to get this sucker done and running 100% TODAY!!!
makes me sad tho.... I made such a big deal over an oil leak.
but when even bigger things go wrong and stay wrong... makes it seem like nothing ever happened lol
so yeah, at this point I would welcome an oil leak if it ran 100%! hahaha
ok thats it for now.
taking my camera out with me and taking pics of my process as long as I remember to haha
update when im hopefully done and not when I run into a problem.
Perfection is a mutha fudger.. Lol you just about got it, two weeks of riding and you'll forget all about the problems you've overcome.
Quote from: dropitlow88 on April 01, 2012, 08:16:03 AM
Perfection is a mutha fudger.. Lol you just about got it, two weeks of riding and you'll forget all about the problems you've overcome.
oh hell no!! hahaha
I never wanna forget! hahaha :nono:
Remembering the hardships of any ordeal and coming out with a victory makes it all much more sweeter everytime you think about it.
even months or years down the road :thumb:
ok all good now.
Time to get busy!
oh yeah, almost forgot another reason why the old engine was probably leaking...
I did not know until yesterday that the outer engine bolts are slightly different in size then the inner ones.
not sure if I did, but I might have mixed some up without knowing they were different.
I would still prefer the work im doing today tho instead of taking a gamble and putting the old one back in.
unless the bottom end of the new engine looks bad in even the slightest bit.
if I decided to take the cylinders out that is.
kk out I go!
Quote from: Tombstones81 on April 01, 2012, 08:25:21 AM
Quote from: dropitlow88 on April 01, 2012, 08:16:03 AM
Perfection is a mutha fudger.. Lol you just about got it, two weeks of riding and you'll forget all about the problems you've overcome.
oh hell no!! hahaha
I never wanna forget! hahaha :nono:
Remembering the hardships of any ordeal and coming out with a victory makes it all much more sweeter everytime you think about it.
even months or years down the road :thumb:
ok all good now.
Time to get busy!
oh yeah, almost forgot another reason why the old engine was probably leaking...
I did not know until yesterday that the outer engine bolts are slightly different in size then the inner ones.
not sure if I did, but I might have mixed some up without knowing they were different.
I would still prefer the work im doing today tho instead of taking a gamble and putting the old one back in.
unless the bottom end of the new engine looks bad in even the slightest bit.
if I decided to take the cylinders out that is.
kk out I go!
good luck! Keep us updated. I think you'll get it this time!
Knew it was something with the actual valves and not the clearance...
Found the problem!
the one exhaust valve is not sealing properly.
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(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/100_0069.jpg)
other 3 are fine but I still plan to swap heads.
and I am SOOOO friggin happy!
the copper washers on this one Slide down.
my other ones screwed on, which is what screwed Me with them! hgahaha
so they came off Perfectly without a nitch in them!
but sadly, when I was pulling the head up, the cylinders slightly came with it.
so now those came out as well.
cylinder walls look 100% but need to be honed.
heads of the pistons looked good but I didnt check the rings out yet.
kk back out I go.
but so far, can I get a Hell Yeah! :cool: :thumb:
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pistons and rings 100%!
300 more miles on them then my other engine and look 10X better!!
knew you'd get it! Post up a video of the beast!
Quote from: dropitlow88 on April 01, 2012, 11:24:32 AM
knew you'd get it! Post up a video of the beast!
hahaha not done yet.
im actually going Very slow (for me anyways haha) carefully and calmly.
got the top end all back together.
now im just getting the valve clearance set as I took the shims out when I was doing the other motor.
one exhaust is at like .09mm or .011mm
and the one intake is tighter then .04mm.
so now im not sure if I bought 4 2.55 & 2.50 shims or 2 of each.
as I need to put a 2.55mm in the intake but I used 2 on the exhaust and cant find anymore.
so im lookin it up to see if I bought 2 or 4.
so far so good tho.
I guess I can post a video of the initial startup. hahaha
I just pray nothing goes wrong or is wrong.
screw that! I want a Good video for a change!
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ugh finally found the email.
nope, I bought 2 of each size.
gotta swap out the one Slightly loose exhaust and put that one in the intake.
finally finished up.
got DRENCHED putting the exhaust back on.
didnt start, only cranked.
but the battery was a little low.
raining too hard to continue.
when it stops (today, tonight, or tomorrow)
I'll push it near the car and jump it with the car off.
cant leave the charger on the bike while its raining.
hope it all ends good!
(edit)
and I took my sweet time and went through it Very carefully.
so I can think of No reason for it Not to start now when its got some juice.
Quote from: Tombstones81 on April 01, 2012, 01:51:33 PM
finally finished up.
got DRENCHED putting the exhaust back on.
didnt start, only cranked.
but the battery was a little low.
raining too hard to continue.
when it stops (today, tonight, or tomorrow)
I'll push it near the car and jump it with the car off.
cant leave the charger on the bike while its raining.
hope it all ends good!
(edit)
and I took my sweet time and went through it Very carefully.
so I can think of No reason for it Not to start now when its got some juice.
awesome! My fingers are crossed for ya. You know, in hindsight I'm really surprised it ever ran with that valve like it was..
yeah it is surprising!
because I did nothing to cause that nor did I hear anything that would cause it.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Rtntyvom3So/TLY5mYM97bI/AAAAAAAABQU/eA7GrJT1yq8/s1600/waiting.gif)
Just kidding,....can't wait to get more updates though!
hahaha dont look at me.
I did everything 110% this time!
come yell at the bike! hahaha
rain should be letting up shortly as I've been watching the local weather channels dopplar radar.
Haha, he's one to talk lol
nope...
just crank crank crank.
after awhile, gas smell.
I simply give the Funk up for the day.
seriously pi$$ed off!!!
Probably just flooded the motor. Shut the fuel valve off, pull the spark plugs out, and run jumper cables from a car. Spin the motor over a little bit to dry out and you should be good to start all over again.
Quote from: Big Rich on April 01, 2012, 03:34:53 PM
Probably just flooded the motor. Shut the fuel valve off, pull the spark plugs out, and run jumper cables from a car. Spin the motor over a little bit to dry out and you should be good to start all over again.
thanks!
but not just yet.
trying to really calm down here first....
Just seems like everytime I do something major to it, another new problem appears....
6 to 7 hours straight today and it doesnt turn out as it should "so far"
thats why I get so ticked.
Im spending 5 to 8 hrs at a time on this sucker when im doing major work.
I might just wait until tomorrow and go over the valve clearance and timing again.
I made sure they were right but as I've learned before, somehow it can be off after I put everything back together.
I guess I can be slightly happy.. Dare I even say it too!
that after all the cranking, didnt see a drop of oil anywhere :thumb:
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nope, didnt help out any.
also, there is a Thumping noise from the head everytime it cranks.
not a tick, grind or anything, but a thump thump thump thump.
I gotta check the timing and valve clearance tomorrow I guess.....
I swear, if this doesnt work 100%.
Im just going to put everything back in the old motor, tighten up that bolt in the oil reservoir, use the copper washers from the new engine and put the old one back in.
then if it leaks, run it until it friggin dies a very painful death!
(edit)
actually...
if This freakin head doesnt pan out.... and I honestly have No possible idea why it wouldnt...
then im just going to replace the exhaust valve on the head I just replaced and put that back on.
since I got extra valves to do so.
ugh I've really freakin had it with this bike.
its especially hard when I see rebuild threads on here go so absolutely smooth!
(copied from my trouble shooting thread!
Cloud 999999999999999999999999999! baby!
HELL YEAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
Knew it was valve related... Just Knew it....
Only thing I didnt try yet, was putting the new engines cam shafts and half moon things in the old engines head that is on the new engine now.
so.. I did! :bowdown: :thumb:
Got all done and cranking it by hand was SOOOOOOOOOOO much smoother!
at that point (with my dad sittin there watchin before he went home) im like... Yep! its GOING to start!!
I just knew it was going to be good!!
Checked the valve clearance.
Right exhaust and intake were perfect.
left 2 were loose.
260 in the intake made that one Perfect.
265 (was 260) in the exhaust made it a Little tight. (probably .03mm)
but I needed the only extra 260 I had for the intake, so that had to due vs .11mm or .10mm in the exhaust.
So now I will order another 260 shim on Friday for the exhaust valve.
put it all together. (to make it short)
Crank... VROOM!
She starts Right up and jumps to 5K with the choke on!
Took the choke off... hit the throttle.... NO boggin or bad sounds!!!! :bowdown: :thumb: :woohoo:
adjusted the idle screw.
Hit the throttle again... PERFECT!
well, the throttle was a little tight, so I adjusted that before a test run.
Took it around the block.
PERFECT!!!!! :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
got back, took a look in front near the headers....
wait for it.....
wait for it..........
NO OIL LEAKING !!!! :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
Washed up and got my gear on.
went for a quick 5 mile test run and to stop for gas.
Shes ALL GOOD!
except I have a little tinkering to do.
thats why im home now
letting it cool off.
gotta adjust the headers so they are perfect and seal up the area where the exhaust meets the slip on.
and now the throttle has a lil too much free play (it let up more when I hit the throttle)
other then that and the headlight cowl installation (another day)
well, and the one exhaust shim I need to buy Friday
shes ALL GOOD!
Damm im so happy!
sorry, no video of it starting for the first time and it being GOOD!
I literally was TOO happy!!
WOOOOO!!!!!
congrats mang!!!!
Enojy it! and keep her shinny side up!!
Don't forget a vid of the ride!!!
Quote from: steezin_and_wheezin on April 03, 2012, 02:37:41 PM
WOOOOO!!!!!
congrats mang!!!!
Enojy it! and keep her shinny side up!!
Don't forget a vid of the ride!!!
thanks :woohoo:
Plan to make a video.
but not just yet.
goin out to get the exhaust all perfect (I could hear its a LITTLE loose)
as I was taking it off and on so much, I didnt wanna chance stripping any bolts.
and seal up where the exhaust meets the slip on.
then a longer test ride.
probably tomorrow if she stays 100%
(http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv102/cheesegirl33/GIF/GIF%20Supernatural/hellyeah.gif)
hell yeah Indeed!
couldnt have done all of this without the help of this kick@$$ site and its members and the engine parts Cbr sent me :bowdown:
kk all done
just need to touch up the scratches in the frame from the engine work (not today)
install the headlight cowl and the new shim when I order it friday.
give it a bath and wax her up to finish it off.
kk out for a Long test ride
OMG that felt soooo nice!!!!
20 mile test run.
acted fine considering a tight exhaust valve.
I could tell it needs a smaller shim swapped.
will be ordering that First thing Friday morning!!
ok.
just got back home from riding the bike to work and back. (stopped at the gfs)
Was a good 50ish mile ride.
Acted GREAT!
Minus the Very obvious indication of a tight exhaust valve.
Will be getting a replacement shim from Steezin soon :bowdown: thanks man!
done riding it until I swap the shim out as I do NOT wanna chance breaking something now.
also what might be because of a tight exhaust valve or I need new header gaskets (will get them anyways)
exhaust sound coming from the front area of the bike.
fairly loud in comparison to what it was like last year.
Might be a combination of both, the exhaust valve and needing new header gaskets.
even tho the headers are on really good.
any other possibility I need to worry about on that???
Everything else is 100%!
new tires felt great.
new chain is all good.
Kat 600 rear shock is Sooo nice!
and new progressive fork springs and fresh 15W fork oil is workin Great! (handles like a dream, so its all proper)
got the sucker on a few open roads up to a maximum speed of like 75 with no complaints.
handled and rode Great!
just a nice amount of poppin out the exhaust when I let off the throttle because of the tight exhaust valve.
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and Friday I will be ordering a few new things.
New header bolts and gaskets.
1 or 2 cans of 2 Part (2K), SprayMax Urethane Aerosol Clear Coat for the headlight cowl.
as the duplicolor clear I bought and used on it looks like utter GARBAGE in comparison!!!!!
but also white primer and more color paint to redo it the exact way I did the rest of the bike so its matches it 100%!
was primer grey when I got it, so that might have affected the end result if I didnt redo it with white primer.
and a quick stop at the local tag and title place to order a custom plate. (NOT telling! :nono: )
a mere $21.50, of course I will!
almost forgot.
took some pics of my plugs after a total of like 70 mile test run since yesterday.
and bare in mind, these were not brand new clean when I started.
these have been the plugs I've been using since I thought I finished my old engine (when the oil leak began) (bought new back then)
so im not sure if that matters.
brown one is the right side of the engine where the valve clearance is all good.
(think thats from the slight surface rust in the tank that I need to take care of)
other one is the left side of the engine that needs the exhaust valve clearance loosened.
(it was pretty much black when I started yesterday, now half and half)
obviously running lean from the tight exhaust valve.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/100_0075.jpg)
input?
Right side is too right, Left is too lean.
Mixture screws?
Quote from: xunedeinx on April 06, 2012, 07:35:11 AM
Right side is too right, Left is too lean.
Mixture screws?
nah, I need bigger main jets.
as well as fix the tight exhaust valve.
already made another thread in the general section on the popping and plug color.
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=59949.0
as I needed help before today (payday)
as im about to get ready, call to see if any locals have any jets, and get out and about...
kk just got back from a shopping spree :thumb:
Salvage yard only had 145 mains, so I got them.
New fuel lines + some extra.
New header gaskets ordered.
New header bolts (will leave off until I put the new gaskets in)
#3 and #4 washers for the carb needles (bought both to be certain)
allen head bolts for the carbs vs the philips head ones. (they only had 7 tho, not 8 )
All the proper paint to redo the headlight cowl the Exact same way I did the rest of the red.
New plugs.
and I got home to Steezins 260 shim in the mailbox! Hell Yeah! :bowdown: :thumb: thanks man!!
time to go out and get this girl goin 100%!!!
good stuff here! can't wait!
YEAH! sounds like a plan!!
no worries on the shim, glad to help :cheers:
Ok all done with putting the new valve shim in.
Rejetting the carbs and putting 1 washer under the needle.
thank god I was smart and bought some #3s instead of just #4s.
#4s were a little too big.
and new plugs in.
started up Great and sounded even better then before.
quick run around the block.
no more lack in power at certain points in the throttle.
sounds and rides alot better
and no more poppin when I let off the throttle.
went from 130 main jets to 145.
because of the K&N open air filter.
was at 127.5 last year with a slip-on.
so I thought 130 would be good.
Soooo wrong!!
kk time to clean up and go for short ride.
then to the gfs for dinner.
will post a running video probably tomorrow.
too busy right now as I wanna get a test ride in.
then a detailed overview video of all my work as soon as the clear coat arrives in the mail and I repaint and install the headlight cowl.
:cheers: CHEERS!
(edit)
oh yeah...
was going to wait and just take a pic of the bike with it on.
ordered my personalized license plate this morning :D
T O M B S
hahaha
was nothing else I liked available like 94GS etc etc
and I've been using Tombstones as a screen name everywhere for like the past 10+ years now
Test ride today went nicely.
Still some pops on decel tho.
Not too bad but didnt check the plugs yet.
I'll buy the 150s soon tho.
and finally an updated pic of me on the bike. haha
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/399039_3628553430055_1160649734_3600544_1916547027_n.jpg)
Sorry Tomb, just commented in your other thread too.......
Pops on decel are kinda common on CV carbs and usually not a big deal. You can try different pilot jets (slow jets, idle jets, whatever) and your mixture screws, but those little pops might always be there. It's more about your engine speed is high, but the butterfly valve on the carbs is shut, therefore starving the engine.
The bike looks great though!
kk and thanks :thumb:
another ride today with 2 friends.
Bike still rode Great :thumb:
awesome work man! cant wait for you to come to the burgh! rich, tombs, we shall ride my friends. depending on where your relative lives someone from here can meet you at closest location and then we all meet in another and go for a ride!
OT: I just took my bike for an hour long test ride. :D guess what tombs, i didnt paint the exhaust yet. so its the same as in my picture. doesnt look to bad after all. if i can find a place open ill get it inspected tomorrow. if not ill do it monday.
"Bike still rode Great" :thumb:
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hell yeah cbr!
and nice Oz!!
my bro lives on Hebron Drive in Pitt btw.
not too far from where you are at.
Yeah do what you want to the exhaust.
but theres just something about a nice shiny exhaust on these bikes that Really stand out and look good in my eyes.
if I had one worth doing it to and the tools, I would in a heartbeat!
but my slip-on is just too beat up I think.
eh, I've done enough work!!! hahaha
headlight cowl is the last "optional" work im doing for awhile. (paint and install)
and yep, cant wait to get out there!
to ride but of course to see my brother and his family again.
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REALLY soaking in the moment here.....
5 months (but still not "officially" finished yet) and she is able to be ridden and I have no mechanical worries driving me insane now. :bowdown: :thumb:
its so nice!
just think of all that mechanical know how you have gain from this...its amazing! stellar job my man.
Quote from: oz353 on April 08, 2012, 07:34:30 PM
just think of all that mechanical know how you have gain from this...its amazing! stellar job my man.
yeah no friggin crap!!!
and to think, I needed help with monkeying with even my carbs last year!!
now I look where im at and quite pleased :thumb:
thanks!
one question...... are you happy you stuck with it?? That final moment of glory was worth all the hassle was it not? lol
Honestly....
It was TOO much of a pain in the rear and work.
So yeah I was happy as heck when I finally got to riding again.
but im also Very weary of it for now.
Constantly listening for things and checking for Anything that isnt right.
Happy I stuck it out (working on it)
and I can go either way as far as when I wanted to sell it.
I mean, come on!
$2000 could go a Long way at making me forget everything about the bike with a shiny new toy! haha
Im not finished yet tho.
So its not all there yet.
I still have to sand down more scratches in the frame and repaint those areas from more engine work.
then repaint and install the headlight cowl.
scrub the entire thing down to the point you can Eat off it!
and finish it off with a sweet wax job!
THEN i'll be smiling even more ear to ear! hahaha
for now, its quite dirty as im yet to wash it even once since I had it fully apart.
i know what you mean by being weary. when i replaced the crank in mine i was just waiting for something bad to happen. it will pass :D now WOT stints to 90 are common for me lol. i love the way it howls at 9-10k rpm lol.
sick photo tombs! looking real nice!!!
Thanks! :thumb:
and I'll relax more when I get back from my ride to, around, and from Pittsburgh.
Good news tho :thumb:
Bike will be all finished sometime next week.
Only waiting on my clear coat to get here for the headlight cowl, which I just got the delivery est and tracking number. (should arrive by the end of the week)
In the meantime, I'll sand down the current paint on it, primer and recolor it probably tomorrow so its ready to be cleared as soon as it arrives.
But also sand down the scratched up (mostly hidden) areas of the frame and repaint it from all the recent engine work again.
Wash the crap out of the bike and wax it, then install the headlight cowl.
Install the new header gaskets and bolts when the gaskets arrive at the dealer.
but before then.
Repaint the exhaust either just near the slip-on since I got a high temp clear now to make it look nice.
or the whole thing to make it look even better if it wont clean up nicely.
and probably finish it off with my personalized TOMBS license plate.
that ran me $35 instead of $20 some because I had the tag and title place do the leg work so it arrives quicker.
then all I have to worry about is riding it, parking it, and general maintenance.
I still plan to redo the seat tho.
but first im going to see if http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUZUKI-GS-500-E-1989-2000-GRIPPY-PASSENGER-SEAT-COVER-/230435310602?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item35a703cc0a
can do some custom work and make me one to fit the entire seat instead of just the passenger area.
kk was supposed to be mostly cloudy and showers but its partly sunny and dry.
im off the next 2 nights.
so its time to ride! :thumb:
Headlight cowl finished being painted.
Now to let it cure until Sat or Sun and clearcoat it when I go pick up the can that got sent to my old address tomorrow.
and I waited until it was dry to the touch before applying the next coat of primer and color.
average, 5 to 10 mins.
closer to 5 at the start as I was applying LIGHT coats.
closer to 10 after that as I started to go with thicker coats. (but not enough to get ANY runs)
Probably, half a can of primer.
and just about a whole can of color.
dont wanna go down to the bottom of the can as it will start to Spurt out and make nasty spotting.
few light coats of primer
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/100_0088.jpg)
finished with primer
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/100_0089.jpg)
First light coat of paint
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/100_0090.jpg)
2nd light coat.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/100_0091.jpg)
back side
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/100_0092.jpg)
another coat
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/100_0093.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/100_0094.jpg)
and finished with color.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/100_0096.jpg)
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and another update.
"Possibly" getting a 100% working 01 engine next weekend "IF" it doesnt sell.
Why?
I was going to rebuild the whole top end of my original 94 engine.
Would need an entire matching top end from the cylinders up.
Then I was going to get all new pistons & rings, bolts, washers, gaskets, and valve guides or whatever they are called.
By the time I did all that (wouldnt be all at once) it would cost me from $400 to $600.
So I figure, why not just buy a motor I Seen and Heard (video) that is 100%, along with being newer and fewer miles.
Not getting ahead of myself.
only happening if it doesnt sell by the time I get paid next Friday.
Im merely putting current ideas and a possible plan down on my thread.
Update :thumb:
More msgs between the 01 engine with 6K miles seller.
Hes going to hold it for me until I get paid as long as I pay the asking price.
So a week from today or tomorrow, I'll have a newer, fewer miles 100% running engine in my baby!
Only thing tho, not sure how a Silver engine is going to look in my black and red bike. hahaha
Im not going to bother painting it this season tho.
I thought your bike was running good now? Why swap engines when things are going fine?
Its running "good".
but not 100% and it just doesnt quite sound... Right...
to make it short.
I would be putting more work into it.
and the 94, I would be fully rebuilding the top end and then putting that back in it.
as that was my initial plan to keep myself busy as another project.
but then the 01 would be cheaper then rebuilding the 94.
its newer and fewer miles.
its just the best way to go right now.
Less headaches and worries.
then I can just finish the others up and sell them and be Done with it all! haha
those are the main reasons.
sorry im now Totally out of it.
worked all night and dead tired.
time for bed :)
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kk sorry my brain is Very slow functioning right now. haha
Basically.
I got Screwed on the 89 motor... partially
with the exhaust valve not sealing properly (oddly, my one extra good one I know is straight wont either, even after going at it with valve grinding compound)
I basically have Too many mixed and matched parts to get her going.
and honestly, if I have a choice.... I Dont like it.
thats why I was going to rebuild my 94 to pretty much brand new on the top end.
but if I can get newer motor running 100% already that is all together the same with fewer miles.....
not a hard choice to make.
Why?!
BECAUSE THE GDAMM PIECE OF $H!T just HASSSSSS to leak oil from SOMEWHERE!
Stupid F'in head cover is leaking worse now.
Cause taking them off and on so much, the damm female threads on a few parts are partially stripped.
Front middle one just recently.
Just TRIED to ride to pick up my package from my old apt......
Didnt leak until AFTER I filled her up of COURSE!!!! (gas)
Got over the bridge and looked down.....
whole side of the motor is Covered in oil!
not to mention my shoe and the bottom of my brand new F"ING PANTS!!!!!!!!!!
I'll redo the female threads before I sell it but I am DONE with these Piece of Crap engines!!!!!
Might just be my bad luck but I dont give a crap anymore!
Freakin Ticked!
sorry for the blow up.... yes I am that P'O'd
Is it the head cover gasket or the o rings under the bolts? If the gasket is soft and pliable, it should be OK. But those little o rings don't take much to be destroyed........
Reminds me of my old Sabre,...cruising, feel something warm, look down and radiator cap mia. Nice warm coolant coming out all over my pants,....sumbi***!!
Quote from: Big Rich on April 13, 2012, 01:30:28 PM
Is it the head cover gasket or the o rings under the bolts? If the gasket is soft and pliable, it should be OK. But those little o rings don't take much to be destroyed........
head cover gasket is fine.
not sure on the O rings below the bolts.
I know I have to redo the female threads first tho.
From taking it off and on so much, the front and back ones in the middle are semi stripped.
front one just recently.
Not even worried about it.
Was just Really ticked off earlier.
It will just sit there and rot for a week until I get that 01 motor.
Then I will get both engines back up to par and sell em.
I am simply Done with working on an engine for my bike.
thats another reason im buying another one that is actually 100% this time! (unlike the 89! with the bad exhaust valve ><)
I just wanna put an engine in, hook it up, change the fluids and Go! (already have 2 extra brand new plugs along with the new ones I just put in the 89)
I am simply Done working on these to get one working 100%, swapping parts etc etc
Dont wanna do it anymore... simple as that.
To sell is one thing, but to use... im just finally 100% totally fed Up!
(edit)
and I am VERYYYYYY VERYYYYYYY grateful to the 01 engine seller for holding onto it for me for a week so I can buy it!!
at this point..... I would say more grateful then Anyone else who could buy it would be! hahahaha
as long as I just put it in the frame, hook it up, change the fluids and plugs, fire it up and just GO!
oh yeah, and a valve clearance check.
and I apologize for losing my cool on here guys.
I am simply trying my hardest to just have something to enjoy and not have to worry or work on it Anymore.
But it seems just Too far out of reach.
I REALLYYYY have to start helpin out with workin on the house too and the bills.
but im one determined, stubborn SOB.
and this bike sure as heck wont get the best of me!
(edit)
just realized something sweet too, but minor.
Now I can make use of my brand new 15T front sprocket on the 01 engine im buying, that couldnt be used on the 89 engine because of the shoulder :)
lil money saved there :)
Clear coat on the headlight cowl is finished :thumb:
The paint I've used on the cowl and pretty much everything that is red.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/100_0103.jpg)
Watch the background reflection in the paint get better and better as the coats go on.
haha found that to be pretty neat.
First light coat
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/100_0104.jpg)
2nd
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/100_0105.jpg)
3rd
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4th
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/100_0106.jpg)
and finished!
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Now to let it sit and cure for a few days, then mount it :thumb:
Unimportant update.
well, compared to everything else. haha
Stopped at the tag and title place as the time on my phone has been out all week incase they called.
Personalized plate wont be there until sometime mid or late May.
No complaints, just wish they would have told me how long when I ordered it!
Looks great Tomb! You're definitely the man on that spraymax job!
thanks, and its mostly because its such a GOOD product.
and update!!!!
Headlight cowl Finally installed!
but now I need longer blinkers for the front.
probably just put the ones I bought off of Bomb on the front instead of back now.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/100_0116.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/100_0115.jpg)
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and no, a bellypan is Not on my agenda ANYTIME soon! FYI!
now to get busy changing my cars fuel filter...... oye!!
That looks friggin' sweet.
Thanks :thumb: :bowdown:
Not the best of views as I still gotta change my cars fuel filter, so I simply took a few and that was it.
and now its Visually complete.
Minus a soon to be Sweet running 01 Silver engine on Saturday!
not sure how thats going to mesh but I dont care.
if it doesnt go well, i'll just paint the ends of the fins black and call it a day
(edit)
and btw, the bike is still Filthy! hahaha
Are you sanding those clear coats?
You've got me convinced to buy that clear for my bike.
Sanding is usually to smoothen it out mostly if there are any imperfections on the very top.
and also to get a shine.
I have yet to see a need to sand to get either one :thumb:
and if ur going to clear urself with a rattle can, I honestly wouldnt go with anything else!
and kk time to go for dinner.
just got done installing my new fuel filter in the car.
(edit)
just got back from taking my dad back home.
Cars running smoother then it was when I first got the thing!!!
and actually, I am going to get a belly pan.
Just not until I get a ton of important things taken care of first. (unrelated to the bike)
It just looks incomplete as its actually Quite a bit wider then the skidmarx one as I just compared pics between mine and adidas.
so a belly pan to add to the visual will help.
not that im complaining whatsoever :thumb:
Personally I like it without the belly pan. Looks a little more streetfighterish, especially with your black frame. That's just me though. Spend you money how you wish.
Me too,..looks fzantastic just like that. Pops looks like he is looking for a oil drip or something,.... :cheers:
Thanks!
and I havnt even been able to stop and Really look at it much yet other then the pics.
all I did was finish, take pics, cover it up, came inside to upload them, then went out and replaced my cars fuel filter.
Yeah the heck with it, I dont NEED a bellypan and when its back on the road.... im Done spending money except for maintenance.
dunno what hes lookin at hahaha
and yeah thats my pops.
dragged him over to get out of his house for the day as it was too nice out.
I put the headlight cowl on yesterday instead of just sitting still while the car cooled off where I dont get burned going under it.
Yeah you are both right.
No belly pan.
as if it was black, it wouldnt be noticed too much being surrounded by more black.
if it was red... noty!
Already more then enough red on the bike as it is.
and kk im bored.
time to take the head off in preparations for helicoiling when the kit arrives.
I was debating if I wanted to take the head off or the entire motor and just do the helicoiling with the head on and just put a towel all over to catch anything from the drilling.
but the heck with it, head will come off.
if I do have to take the motor out, will make it easier with the head out.
if I will even have to take the motor out for the new one.
just being paranoid.
as im still waiting on Exact directions on where im going, just got some to I guess something nearby, but no address yet.
and havnt heard from him since yesterday morning.
even my dad constantly says I have some BAD luck (said it yesterday too with the car problems that are now fixed)
so yes, when I look forward to something quite a bit, I get quite worrisome. hahaha
kk time to get some work done!
Update.
Just got done pulling the head off, cleaning the carbs & putting the allen head bolts in.
Found out why it was leaking so severely at the front left side of the head cover.
the one circled in red, the black bolts completely stripped the female threads!
Pulled the bolts out and All the threads came with them both!
So the cover, and also the camshaft wasnt even secure on that side!!
Soo lucky! as it could have been WAY worse with a halfway loose front camshaft!!!
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/681119955_2435393395_0-1-1.jpg)
add 2 more sockets to helicoil now!! hahaha
gotta find out if they are the same size or not.
and it stripped so bad because, as you all know.
when the timing is set, that side is pointing down at the valve.
and if you put them on as it sits, its more pressure on the threads then the rest when you're tightening them down
Do me a favor...cut all your wrenches off 3" from the socket so you can stop putting so much torque on your bolts!!
Seriously though, be careful!
By the way, I learned the same lesson on that bolt, but I snapped off the bolt instead of the threads. Pretty sure that those are smaller threads than the other bolts.
hahaha in all honesty, im not putting that much torque on them.
Its been from taking them all on and off so much.
which has been AAAALOT!!!
Bored.
So I made a video of all my photos.
enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3UYyHnyNUo&feature=youtu.be
Helicoil kit arrived!
and the new blinkers!
Thanks bomb! :thumb:
same length as the LED ones I have on the front, so they went on the back as I initially planned.
Looks alot better as my rear stock ones were quite worn and Fugly!
Stopped at Ace with my dad since im broke til tomorrow... hahaha
Measured the size of the bolts for the cam shaft half moon mounts.
Not the same size as the bolts for the head cover.
So I gotta get a 6 X 1.0 kit tomorrow now.
also got both drill bits I needed for both jobs.
9/32 for the head cover bolts and 1/4 for the cam shaft mounts.
hopefully I get this done tomorrow.
Got the engine sellers address last night.
So everything is a Go to go check it out and purchase it tomorrow. :thumb:
Sadly, its going to rain all the way until Thursday.
Hopefully I get a 2hr+ window to check over, clean, and put the new motor in and test it all out sometime before Thursday.
Will update tomorrow with the results!
Just got back from my NJ trip.
WITH the motor! :bowdown: :thumb:
Cranked by hand smooth as silk as it should and compression with my finger over the plug holes.
No problems with the valves unlike the last motor!!!
Guy was nice enough to put new plugs in it and oil filter for me.
I stopped for oil omw home.
$40 for 4 qrts of Castrol 10W40 synthetic.
same as I've used since I bought the bike and have had Zero problems with it!
it sat prior to him putting fresh oil in it and testing it all out.
so I want only the good stuff in it to start with.
For once.. and dare I say it.... yes I DARE!
I am pretty much 100% confident once I get the engine in, she will be in 100% Perfect working condition!!
Really appreciate the guy holding onto it for a week for me vs his other offers.
Gotta email and say thanks again too.
Also the supervisor at work did the schedules a few weeks ahead and unless $h!t hits the fan....
That im going to be off May 17th thru the 21st and go back to work the 22nd.
So Pittsburgh is lookin GREAT!
kk im a walking friggin zombie right now!
worked all night and drove Quite a ways.
time for bed!
Quote from: Tombstones81 on April 15, 2012, 04:01:41 PM
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heading to advanced auto to pick up some paint and take a stab at the Tombstyle Paintjob, hope it comes out 1/2 as good as yers did!!
takes for the photo and all the info you've written up!!
hahaha im sure it will, as long as you go in light to thick (but not runny) even coats with the primer and color.
and then use the same clear.
what are you painting anyways?
hahaha yea that'd be funny.
Screw calling it a rattle can job anymore.
Tombstyle paintjob is in! hahahahaha :thumb:
haha that cracks me up.
well, after being at work 1.25 hrs, took a holiday after making sure it was going to be a quiet night.
Not raining and a little tempted to go and at Least take the current motor out of the bike (that doesnt have a top end on it atm)
but after such a long day, im going to do what I left work for..... Relax!
Also a few good things that came with the motor and currently installed on it.
add a 2nd used clutch cable to my inventory (used as a backup incase something happens to my brand new one)
Tachometer cable
and the hose from the air breather on top of the head cover since I broke mine from being old dry and brittle.
Also get to use my brand new 15T front sprocket now since its not a pre 94 and 94+ the front sprocket had a shoulder added, which doesn fit pre 94.
2 sets of brand new header gaskets picked up omw home that I ordered 2 weeks ago.
brand new header bolts I bought when I ordered the gaskets.
and the brand new plugs and oil filter I already mentioned that the buyer was nice enough to toss in it.
Just gotta clean very minor rust spots on it.
wash it down and clean it up.
toss on my grey side cover I've had since last year as the current ones broken.
and put the extra new suzuki emblem on it.
(edit)
oh yeah.
and brand new fuel lines.
even tho the one line is almost brand new, still going to replace what I have length for.
as some rusty gas passed through it for a bit.
Well, got the old motor out.
Cleaned and situated my work area and it started to rain as I finished with that.
Checked the radar earlier and just now, quite the bit of rain headed this way.
So thats it for today.
Next chance I get, i'll clean up and get the new motor all ready to go in.
and 3rd motor is the charm!
Almost all my own dumb fault too.
First motor would of been still 100% if I would have known better to crank it by hand when the exhaust valve was stuck.
but I thought it was electrical and kept cranking it by the starter and broke the valve.
All the oil leaks with that motor was all my fault for mixing up the inner and outer head mounting bolts that look identical unless you hold em up to your face.
and the head cover leaks are my fault too for taking off the cam shaft mounts and cover so many times.
which are not meant to come off as much as I took them off and on!
oh well.
Live and learn.
I paid quite a bit for these lessons.
but as soon as the new motor goes in and im ridin around... I wont care
Quote from: Tombstones81 on April 21, 2012, 06:02:20 PM
hahaha im sure it will, as long as you go in light to thick (but not runny) even coats with the primer and color.
and then use the same clear.
what are you painting anyways?
painting my fork and hand guards on the drz (http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll129/steezin_and_wheezin/IMG_3218.jpg). i couldn't find that clear you used, and the guys at advanced had no clue on paint.. i got that primer, and dupli-color acrylic enamel gloss black and clear.
Is there a specific "clear" or will the dupli-color enamel clear do?
on my phone. so this will be sloppy. i would google quite a bit if u should clear over that black enamel. esp gloss. i read a few sites say no clear or give it a Longgg time to cure. my frame is enamel and looked like garbage after i clear coated.
10-4!!
Found a couple threads on the gloss black enamel, i'll keep reading. The hand guards are ok, just want to paint black over the white 'acerbis' tag. The fork guards are in desperate need of painting though(has some fugly textured grey the PO sprayed on everything) I might sand those down and take a stab at it.
Just reorganized my lower shed this weekend and its perfect size for a make shift paint booth!
Nice!
Yeah I did a "little" bit more reading on it a lil bit ago.
Mixed responses.
Some say yeah after its had a LONGGGGG time to cure. (months)
other say yeah as long as you use the proper clear.
Me, the main visual parts of the frame I sanded through the clear and repainted a few color coats cause it looked like garbage in comparison to before the clear.
Still have to give mine time to see how it will turn out tho.
Its fresh paint and hasnt been on the road enough to know which is better.
Dunno, u jumped on the one questionable area when it comes to my know-how in painting. hahahahaha
Stopped raining for awhile.
So I took the new motor out of my car and going to start cleaning it up.
Before that tho, put some watered down Lime Away into my gas tank since I have some surface rust.
Shook it up quite a bit (probably 1/2 to 3/4 full) and almost got shot in the face by air pressure when I opened the cap up. hahaha
Already clean and rust free in there! :thumb:
Now to clean the motor and then head to the store for some WD40 to keep it from flash rusting.
and some gas for the final rinse.
new engine pre cleaning.
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Quote from: Tombstones81 on April 23, 2012, 06:45:13 AM
Nice!
Yeah I did a "little" bit more reading on it a lil bit ago.
Mixed responses.
Some say yeah after its had a LONGGGGG time to cure. (months)
other say yeah as long as you use the proper clear.
Me, the main visual parts of the frame I sanded through the clear and repainted a few color coats cause it looked like garbage in comparison to before the clear.
Still have to give mine time to see how it will turn out tho.
Its fresh paint and hasnt been on the road enough to know which is better.
Dunno, u jumped on the one questionable area when it comes to my know-how in painting. hahahahaha
Sounds good, I found a couple good threads where they mentioned that as well(waiting months before paint is hardened and more completely cured)
I'm going to give it a shot, maybe even give it a little heat to help speed the curing process
Back On Topic;
That engine looks damn good!!!! :woohoo: :woohoo:
Thanks.
Its lookin better now that its clean!
Still have to take the front sprocket off and scrub the rust off and put my 15T sprocket on.
but, done for today!
stopped at Ace hardware.
Got some more black enamel for the engine area of the frame (scratched up a little bit but not as badly as before)
but im still going to sand it down in the engine area good and respray some coats on it.
Grabbed a can of WD40 for the rust and flushing the tank.
and a bottle of Polmolive for washing the bike down before I wax it as I lost my Giant bottle of it moving.
filled up a container of gas as well.
got back, Steaming hot water to start flushing the tank after I drained the Lime Away out of it.
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Few flushes of hot ass water, sprayed the hell out of the inside with WD40 and then began flushing with gas.
Kept flushing with gas until it was coming out clean from the petcock location (petcock removed)
filled it up with the rest of the gas and called it done :)
no more worries on the surface rust now, shes all clean :thumb:
GOTTA love my shopvac tho!
makes suckin up all that nasty fluid from the tank SOOOOOOO much easier!!!
started drizzling so thats all for today!
and heres my babys new heart lookin all Brand new except for the scratches there on the emblem.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/Chronno1201/100_0122.jpg)
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I only have one brand new emblem atm that has to go on the other side as that sides cover is cracked with no emblem.
so I have to put the other silver one i have on with the new emblem.
and just order one from the salvage yard when I get paid to make it 100%!
also will be taking those header gaskets out.
got 2 sets of brand new ones in my car :thumb:
kk time for bed!
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and I dont care how it looks being silver in the bike.
The engine (minus the emblems) are in such pristine condition...
I would have to a total MORON to paint it black to match the bike!!
:thumb: very nice good sir
Yes sir, that motor looks real good.
I know it's not a big deal after the fact, but I've always put used engine oil in a tank to stop them from flash rusting. Only because it's easier to clean afterwards and WD40 can make a surface next to impossible to paint. Doesn't really apply here, just wanted to point it out.
Quote from: Big Rich on April 23, 2012, 04:39:48 PM
Yes sir, that motor looks real good.
I know it's not a big deal after the fact, but I've always put used engine oil in a tank to stop them from flash rusting. Only because it's easier to clean afterwards and WD40 can make a surface next to impossible to paint. Doesn't really apply here, just wanted to point it out.
thanks
and
good to know
Its just that I've only read a few how to's on removing rust from a tank.
The few I did read all said WD40 after the water rinse.
So I simply went with that.
Gonna go out in a sec and take another peek inside to see how it is after a day to settle.
and see if its not raining in even the slightest bit.
gotta sand and respray the engine area of the frame again to take it back to lookin 100% perfect!
so I just need enough time to spray it and for it to dry.
I can put the engine in with a little drizzle, just cant paint.
(edit)
so far so good.
got some painting done.
spot on the one side has a few runs.
so I have to let it dry, sand and respray it better.
and if the rain keeps holding up.
Might just toss the motor in today.
Already cleaned and just put my 15T sprocket on.
so all I have to do is wait longer for the paint to be fully dry to the touch.
sun was out and spotty.
looks like its getting cloudy now tho ><
Great work, we're getting spotty rain here too. Even got some SNOW yesterday! not enough to stick, but enough to make my cheese all day. man i miss the winter...
Following this thread makes me so antsy to get Gabby(my 06 no longer parts bike) up and running.
Can't wait to see the new heart transplanted!!
Motor is IN ! :thumb:
Finishing everything up.
Just got done torquing down the bolts and then swapping the motor side carb booties.
Yes adidas, they are a better fit (older vs newer) on the older carbs.
The 01 booties, they just didnt sit flush very nicely.
Tossed my almost brand new 94 ones on and they are Sooo much better.
if whatever u said or asked before was to confirm if theres a difference.
kk gonna see what I can finish up before it rains or my time runs out.
Pics later and hopefully shes runnin by the time I gotta go to bed for work tonight!
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would of had pics but while I was letting the paint dry, I came inside.
Emptied my pockets and put my nasty oily jeans on for the big job and forgot to grab my camera.
when im done they will be uploaded!
ITS ALIVE!!!!..... again! hahahahaha
ugh Im freakin BEAT!
8:30am to finishing the clean up at 1:30.
Repainted parts of the frame I scratched up.
Came back inside while it dried.
Installed my new 15T sprocket.
Put the motor in, which went VERY smoothly!!
Bolted the sucker down.
Changed engine side carb booties.
Hooked up all the wiring.
Put the carbs and air filter in.
Ran all new hoses.
New header gaskets in and put the exhaust on.
Then she started Right up!
even after sitting for I dunno how long with the battery not on a tender!
I did put it on for some extra juice right when I was starting it as I forgot to earlier.
I'll put it on to Fully charge when its not going to rain as it might later and im in my boxers for bed.
Engine in and bolted down
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everything but the exhaust on.
with brand new hoses :thumb:
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and here she is right before I started it
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and the very first crank caught on camera for once.
as I knew I wasnt going to be embarrassed this time! hahaha
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and it died when I took the choke off because I had to adjust the idle screw.
took it around the block after tightening the chain.
Ran like a Dream!
Tomb looks great! I hope I can clean my 929 engine as good as you did yours. Loving it!
Thanks!
and as usual, not all the props go to me. hahaha
the engine already was in "Almost" pristine visual shape.
was merely dirty from sitting for 3 years prior to the seller getting it.
was just some debri in the fins next to the spark plugs.
Rust on the original sprocket and holder (whatever its called) but I cleaned that up good and my 15T sprocket is brand new.
and rust on the timing on the other side from the old cover being cracked.
other then that, was just dirty.
Put my old scratched up (more grey then silver now) cover on to replace the cracked one.
no emblem tho.
around $35 for a brand spankin new right side cover.
So I think I will order one next pay from the dealer I've been ordering through and save my new extra emblem for that one.
but also order a replacement emblem for the left side too.
but in the meantime, put something over the cover I put on which has no emblem on it either.
I would just try to find a cheaper used side cover but the engine is in such pristine condition.... I want brand new!!
kk got some fresh gas in a container this morning.
as there seems to be a "Little" bit of rust "particles" left in the tank I seen in the lines.
So im going to flush it once or twice more with gas, fill it up and go for a long test ride!
Tomb, want me to see if I have that side cover? I haven't looked but might be in perfect shape, just sitting in the basket case. (???)
Cool!
be my guest!
Sprayed and wiped her down.
Cleaner then its been but not Scrubbed and waxed yet.
Took some better pics, now time to wash up and Ride!!!
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not wasting a brand new emblem, so I just put a black one on it for now as the extra silver one I have has the hole in the middle open.
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my 2 babies!
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my 2 babies again and my dad in the background
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:icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: SCARYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!! :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek:
Went for a nice hour ride around.
Running a little lean.
Other then that, no motor problems :thumb:
Rode great.
Until I Really opened it up going up this one hill!!
Friggin chain jumped on me!
WOW did I freak out! hahaha (emotionally, not physically)
I just let off the throttle, calmed down and very delicately rode home.
Had the throttle wide open, engine screamin, all of a sudden it acted like it went into neutral and I hear a quick light clank.
Then fine.
Got home, chain was a little too loose.
First time thats happened, was Not fun! hahaha
(edit)
Well, checked the valves against the wishes of the seller....
hahahaha I guess he didnt trust me after my horror stories!
I was hesitant because if something went wrong... I'd be kickin myself for not checkin.
but if something went wrong checkin, I'd be kickin some more.
So I went at it VERY carefully! hahahahaha
Intake were at .06.
exhaust, one was at .07 (good)
other one was at .05, so I took it up a little bit.
Finished up.
Started up smoothly.
Sounded better then before.
Rode it around the driveway a bit.
Seemed to ride better now.
So after I change the right side cover and 2 new emblems.
then jump the main jets from 145 to 150 (little lean atm)
can safely say now that she is DONE!
unless something natural breaks.
isnt anything wrong with it now tho!
ahhh so nice!
(edit)
back from another yet longer ride after checking and adjusting the one exhaust valve.
Rode even better.
So Stoked!!!
Still a little lean tho.
Will just order 150 main jets next Friday when I order the new emblem and new right side cover.
and it actually wont be completely "finished" until my T O M B S license plate arrives in early May :D hahaha
Quick small update.
While its not raining yet.
decided to go out, take off and repaint the peg mounts black enamel to match the frame.
From the location, they are not very easy to keep the paint in good condition.
At least not the red from all wear they get.
The black enamel will hold up better I think.
Also looking at the newest photos.
Im just not too crazy over them being red.
Dunno what it is, they just dont match the bike now to my eyes.
kk out I go!
(edit)
and im certain they will look better black but with red pegs when I get around to buying them.
and just like that, finished :thumb:
redid the chain guard too since I initially did it in the duplicolor crappy clear when I did the headlight cowl.
this time with the good $h!t!
but now the shift lever looks out of place being red.... hahahahaha
Oh well, that will take more time waiting to dry then to paint since its so small.... another time.
the ONLY non Suzuki sticker going on my bike!
Glad I got the white one, sucker REALLLYYYY stands out!
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Bike also got one quick layer of wax yesterday.
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While the paint was drying between coats.
Actually stopped and stood there staring at the bike appreciating all the hard endless work that went into it and the pretty much Finished product!
im an oddball who does that all the time with things, stop and smell the flowers so to speak.
Started doing it after I BUSTED my rump makin money to buy my First and Second cars.
Used to just stare out my bedroom window at night at 18 yrs old just enjoying the view and lookin down thinking, cant wait and it would be so nice to stare down at my own firebird! (my #1 fav car)
Eventually got #1 then #2 and did the same thing, stared out the window at both of them appreciating my hard work paying off.
1st car, not mine but it was Exactly the same minus the side tinted windows. (93 firebird 3.4ltr)
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2nd car. (94 Trans am 5.7 lrt 350)
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(edit)
got bored again! hahaha
Shift lever and kickstand now black and drying.
Looks alot better now
Been quite awhile since I updated this.
First change I did after repainting the peg mounts.
New side cover and emblems.
it wasnt straight when I took the pic but fixed it after.
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new side cover and emblem.
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busted my @$$ for hours cleaning up the muffler after having it welded on finally
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repainted the pipe
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was swapping out main jets and had the tank at a bad angel when it was Full and gas poured out the cap and down the back for quite some time. (like 10 mins)
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stripped and prepped for repaint
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repaint came out badly.
I needed to sand down the bondo better with finer sand paper.
you can tell up close if you actually look for it.
and was finishing up the painting when it was getting dark out.
but still light enough to paint......
Just not enough to notice friggin lint particles on a few areas of the tank!!!!
So there is like goosebumps on parts of the tank ><
still got plenty of paint left, so I will be redoing it once shes back to 100%.
and the most recent Hell!!
to make it short.....
after getting the pipe finally welded and put back on....
it wasnt 100% properly installed (by me of course! ><)
so from all the popping because of an exhaust leak prior to the weld, and also thinking partially a carb problem too.
I didnt think much at all when it was popping after putting it back on after it was welded.
Took it for a good 3 to 4 hour group ride with a bunch of locals.
So by the end of the night, noticed it got pretty damm loud at the headers.
checked, soot all over the headers....
figured the pipes were funked.
bought a replacement stock exhaust because I was sick of fiddling with the piece of crap!
waiting for it to come, I got impatient and fiddled with the exhaust some more.
got them sealed but noticed it would bog at higher speeds between 25% and half throttle ish.
or 50 to 75%.
I pretty much couldnt just cruise along and maintain say 50 mph with set throttle.
it would act ok as i let off the throttle to slow down.
and when I gave it throttle to accelerate.
convinced I messed up the valves, I started checking.
first, what I could check with the cylinder head still mounted.
the one exhaust valve tightened like .08mm's in say 1500 miles from my initial check.
the rest were still spot on from the initial check when I first put the motor in.
got that dealt with.
acted better but still signs of boggin.
also no signs of the valves not sealing fully.
So, I said the heck with it and took the whole top end off the motor.
Cylinder walls were fine but needed to be honed. (got that done)
Pistons and rings were fine.
valves were sealing properly.
but just to be sure, I removed the left exhaust valve that tightened up .08mm in 1500 miles.
valve guide on the bottom cracked ><
So!......
I look up how to remove the valve guide....
Heated up the head and proceeded to remove it....
slipped, mashed my hand against the edges of the head and sliced my finger pretty darn good....
Also, took a nice chunk out of the metal "Around" the valve guide.....
Which totally Funked the head!
So now im buying a black replacement cylinder head from adidas that is all there and all the original parts together.
Once that arrives, it should go right on and not have a single problem!
Before installation tho.
Gotta clean it up, strip and file / sand it down and the cylinders and repaint it to match the rest of the engine.
Repainting the cylinders too just incase the paint doesnt match up 100%.
So if the entire top is a lil different shade then the bottom, then it wouldnt really look bad.
if just the head is, then it would.
Also have some custom gauge overlays coming from Ford :thumb:
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will match my license plate that finally arrived like a week ago.
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UGH!!!
okay thats it for now!
oh yeah.
the POS exhaust that gave me so much trouble.
MIGHT be fine.
Was my fault trying to get the muffler mounted to the Outside of the mounting area.
on the inside it would scrape on the rear brake bolt that sticks out.
but I dont care.
got a stocker that is in Great shape!!!! Tnx Steez!!
so the old one is goin to the scrapper! (not giving anyone my bad mojo!)
"Update?" I thought, and started reading.
Tomb you gotta get a project bike on the side when yours is running good, just for the thread alone!
That really sux on your tank. Ugh I know exactly how you felt when you saw it. :mad:
And only you too, would say F- it and open up the whole top end on a whim! Cracked valve guide wtf?!
Still watching and hope you get this stuff sorted out too!
Quote from: cbrfxr67 on June 22, 2012, 06:58:41 AM
"Update?" I thought, and started reading.
Tomb you gotta get a project bike on the side when yours is running good, just for the thread alone!
That really sux on your tank. Ugh I know exactly how you felt when you saw it. :mad:
And only you too, would say F- it and open up the whole top end on a whim! Cracked valve guide wtf?!
Still watching and hope you get this stuff sorted out too!
Actually the tank didnt really bother me.
What I did get mad and curse furiously about was my "bad luck".
I mean Really?!?!
I've taken that tank off Sooo many times and have the fuel lines long enough where I dont have to disconnect them.
Just put the rear of the tank to the side on a chair with the front setting on the frame.
Never a problem before, but this time I had a FULL tank of gas.... hahaha
Well, I had no choice but to open her up.
I eliminated All other possibilities first tho.
Wasnt the carbs or the headers this time.
Valves were the only possibility left.
and nothin left to sort out :thumb:
Just need to replace the head.
Repaint it.
Also repaint the tank (only takes an afternoon)
Put it back together and be golden.
Honestly, the Very Last problem I had was with that POS exhaust I had.
Tnx to Steezin, that problem has been fully eliminated :thumb:
Update! :thumb:
UGH what a day!!!
Been at it since 9am, now 6pm almost and still not finished!!
Started out degreasing and cleaning the chain up.
Wiped it off really good and let it sit as it was for good few hours before regreasing it.
Took my headlight off to clean up the wiring in the front.
Removed my gauges to install the new custom overlays from Ford.
Never liked the black frames.
So!, I painted them Red to match the rest.
Also painted the needles Red.
Came out GREAT!!!!
Dont mind the zip tie on the right, snapped the bolt weeks ago and keep forgetting to stop for another.
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actually JUST got done with that as I had to leave the frames dry all day from all the handling I would be doing putting them back together.
Got the cylinder head replacement from adidas today :thumb:
THE MAN!!!!! :bowdown:
Almost ruined my entire engine tho.
Not his fault as it was an extra one of his he bought but never used.
So I am 100% certain he knew nothing about it.
but, the intake cam shaft sprocket was loose Quite a bit!
if I didnt notice it, it would of been BAD!
Surprised I did as I wasnt totally sober at the time! hahahaha :cookoo:
Installed the head.
Bolts torqued down correctly and in order.
Cam shafts went in just fine.
Left exhaust was at .05 clearance with a 260 shim.
Tossed in a 255 I had and shes all good.
All 3 other valves were at exactly .08 clearance each! :thumb:
Put the cover on and only hand tightened the cover bolts as I planned to leave it run for 5 to 10 mins and then check the head bolts again.
Put everything back on.
and
SHE LIVES!!!!!................ Again!!........ hahahahaha :cookoo:
Sounds Alot better then before!
especially with the stock exhaust from steezin too! :thumb:
Only have to fiddle with a Slightly hanging idle.
Most likely just a cable adjustment as I really didnt get Everything down Spot on perfect.
The minor things that is.
Was just getting it to the point where I can see if it starts and runs good.
So, break time!
Then I gotta go out and check the head bolts.
Tighten everything down properly.
Put the headlight back on.
Adjust the throttle cable and go for a ride!!! :thumb:
Yes this deserves a whole nother post of its own!
I forget who said it, I think adidas but I cant find the msg again.
My bike is "Officially" the Gstwin.com Whore now! :thumb: hahahaha
I think I have more parts on that bike and for that bike from other members then any other member!
hahahahaha
I find that hilarious!
I honestly dont even wanna list it all, my brain will hurt!
Good stuff Tomb! :thumb:!
Indeed!
1 to 2 hr test ride last night was good!
Not a Single decel pop! :bowdown:
So, this morning I went out and about for more bike goodies!
Fresh oil, filter & plugs.
Paint for the top half of the engine.
and more black enamel to touch up visual areas of the frame from all the work again.
and also because the one side had a few minor annoying run spots from the last time that I need to sand downa nd repaint.
Also picked up 2 blue LED strips to light up the engine area :thumb:
Just got back home.
So I will be getting to work on this whore in a little bit.
Pics when I'm done!
FINALLY finished for the day!!!
but no I wasnt working on it til now.
Worked on it until like 5:30pm.
Repainted the entire top half of the engine.
VHT engine paint, went with the closest color based on the cap (wont do that again)
Top half is pretty much totally friggin Silver!
Bottom is more of a grey'ish silver.
but it looks GREAT!
Between coats, had nothing better to do.
So, I sanded down and repainted the exhaust pipe.
That came out VERY nice as well!
even tho it was fine to begin with, but I wanted a Dark shiny black finish like my last exhaust.
Sanded down and repainted the visual areas of the frame.
Also came out Great!
After that, changed the oil and Didnt snap one of the stems this time! hahaha
Put the new spark plugs in.
Then sealed up the head cover better as it was Very slightly leaking last night. (not a single drop now)
Left it run for a few mins to heat up and cure the fresh paint.
then let it cool.
Planned to do that a few more times but it was Bike night at a semi local restaurant.
and I only had an hour and a half to finish up, put all the tools away and clean up to leave.
Before that tho.
Installed 2 blue LED strips in the engine area.
Specifically, on the inside of the frame from near the rear shock area to almost right next to the carbs.
Night came.
Looks GREAT!
Even the fellow riders said it was Very noticeable!
even tho it was only 2 strips int he middle of the bike.
Now I plan to get 2 more to place above the rear tire.
and.
did a nice 150 mile ride today/tonight.
Running just fine.
Minus one little hiccup.
Was pushing it in 6th and it started to bog and then died as if fuel starved.
Just like it did when my headers were leaking.
Stopped, turned it off for a min and started right back up.
Was Right about to hit the reserve line, so I guess it was fuel starved as the headers are not leaking at all!
not even a single pop Anytime today.
I'll get pics tomorrow of my work.
and tomorrow night a pic of the bike lit up with the 2 LED strips.
just Way too exhausted tonight to even move from this chair except to bed!
So!
Good night :thumb:
Okay nm.
Went out and got pics.
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enjoy!
more pics!
this time during the day.
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2 more things left to do to it.
First.
2 more blue LED strips to go above the rear wheel.
2nd.
Redo the seat fabric.
after that, the only thing I've been contemplating is replacing the rims with the stock gunmetal colored ones.
but thats not even considered for at least a few weeks to a month.
(edit)
or a cheaper route.
Just have the rims powder coated that matching Red.
I dont mind the red.
but I really like the gunmetal ones, just not sure how the color would mesh.
and the rims being spray painted, Wayyy too easily chipped.
which is why I wanna go one route or the other.
Loving the pics Tomb! Rock on sir! :rstar: :rstar: :rstar:
hell yeah cbr! :thumb:
and even tho I posted it on the main site yesterday when I won it, will say it again.
Hell Yeah! :woohoo:
Won a complete 96 Cylinder head assembly on ebay :thumb:
$102.XX after shipping cost.
The most reliable motor to put it on is the 89.
Even tho the 89 head is perfectly fine now after replacing the exhaust valve.
It still needs some helicoiling (need another set other then the one I have)
Which another kit is around $50.
Also mixed up the cam shafts and mounts with my 94s accidentally.
The 94.....
Too many oil leaks, even tho I am pretty confident I know how to eliminate them.
Not going to even waste my time.
89 is already ready to go too, just have to put the head on it.
WAS contemplating selling it.
But I am just going to wrap it up and keep it as a spare engine. (gotta love that!)
Also got some extra money atm.
So I will be buying 2 more blue LED strips for somewhere above the rear wheel.
Already picked a spot out, but going to look for a less place prone to getting absolutely Filthy! hahaha
and I still have to buy a toggle switch and have a friend solder it all together too.
Which will probably be Tuesday.
Will get more pics uploaded of it and the engine when I get everything done :thumb:
AND (i forgot AGAIN) the seat redone!
Just got finished soldering all the wires together on a toggle switch this time.
Along with 2 additional blue LED strips above the rear tire.
Lookin Sweet!
Will upload pics as soon as I go out and take them.
JUST sat down after getting done.
kk heres some more.
didnt have my keys on me so the only light is from the LEDs and sometimes the flash.
Dont see myself putting any in the front of the engine.
1. too hot.
2. wouldnt notice much with the headlight nearby.
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I'll get some pics of the Strip placements tomorrow incase anyones thinking they wanna do the same.
but in all honesty, isnt very many other spots to put them! ahaha
This one looks sweeeeet :cheers:
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Update! :thumb:
Went and bought some Black Marine Vinyl to redo the seat.
sucker is going to look even better with some new fabric!
Also needed to get a can of copper gasket spray for the top end engine gaskets when I put the new head on my extra motor.
(Used it before and also using it right now with my current motor that had the head replaced as well)
never gave me a single problem!
Will take some pics if I get around to redoing the seat tonight or tomorrow.
Before, during, and after pics of course.
Also probably of the extra motor work I have to do as well just for the hell of it. :thumb:
Finally got around to redoing the seat today.
Couldnt yesterday.
Whoever redid theirs with ONLY using staples... B R A V O !!!!!
my POS one just wouldnt punch the staples in enough or at all.
So I looked up a few videos since the only details I've read on here were staples only...
Spray on Glue after heating up the fabric in the dryer.
worked PERFECTLY!!!!
didnt even need to go crazy with the stapler to hold the bottom in place.
glue did enough of a job to do it for me.
I only put enough staples in the bottom to hold it until the glue dries.
Only got 3 pics as I was working with glue and didnt have time to stop and play with the camera....
before
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old material off
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and finished product!
came out PERFECTLY!!!!
Just waiting on the glue to dry and everything to settle now before i go crazy with the staples and then trim the excess.
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raining.
so i cant get to the motor today.
Looks good Tomb!
A pneumatic staple gun is what upholstery shops usually use - not the general spring loaded one like what I have. Whenever I have to staple vinyl into plastic, I went over all the staples with a small ball peen hammer to make certain the staples were all the way in.
tnx.
Yeah the staples went in fine 90% of the time with the new gun.
Just got done pushing all the non flush staples in.
cut all the excess off earlier after going nuts with the staple gun.
shes all ready to go back on the bike and get pics taken tomorrow.
still 100% too :thumb:
Update :thumb:
Adjusted the carbs a bit to try and help with starving for fuel issue when coming to a stop.
Finally tossed the 140 main jets in from 145s and 3 turns out with 1 washer under the needle.
(Lunchbox with stock exhaust)
Cleaned up the LED wiring since I bought more zip ties.
Cleaned the bike up and tossed the new fabricated seat on :thumb:
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Your seat looks really good. Nice job!
Tnx B! :thumb:
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now to take a nice longggggg ride to a dealer for a new pair of sweet hand grips I was going to buy on ebay.
Seen a local rider got them and asked where.
$20, same ones I've been wanting to snag.
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nm.... postponed til Monday.
they close at 4 on Saturdays and its 3 now
and its a 1.5 hr ride/.
Good job on that seat Tomb! Always like seeing more n more pics of your bike. Hell yea! :thumb:
Just read through all 23 pages of this thread, and all I can say is well done sir. And IMHO I like the look of the silver engine better than the black. The forks/muffler accent it nicely...hope I can get mine looking that nice (assuming I ever find a tank)
tnx man :thumb:
Sadly, I simply got sick and tired of the problems and bad luck.
Also with the lack of power being a big guy.
(and I cant believe I forgot to post it on this thread too)
I traded it back in like Aug. for an 87 Honda Super Magna.
Yeah I liked the silver engine too, until I had to replace the head (which was black) and had to repaint it.
Paint always looked good even if it was rattle can.
Bondo areas werent too sweet up close tho. (not good at smoothing it out Perfectly)
and it seems the motor I got kicked the bucket on the current owner :cry:
http://daytona.craigslist.org/mcy/3434285036.html
got 2 PMs from ppl asking if its my old one.
No idea how in the heck it went from Ct to Florida!
A more expensive bike I can see (shipping)
As far as riding it that far, I didnt even trust it to go from north east Pa to Pittsburgh Pa!
Someone probably ran it low on oil sometime as the sucker Ate oil like mad for some reason!
(current listing had engine problems and thats the only problem I had with it)
Also guess the person I traded with must have sold the extra motor I had separately.
Still miss the bike.
But simply WAYYYYYYY too many headaches.
(probably mostly my own mistakes as I was learning)