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Title: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: The Buddha on November 10, 2011, 05:04:34 PM
I think he should just say that he's been sexually harassing women cos he needs to appeal to the democrats and he asked Clinton for advice and did what Clinton said.

Booya, let the stones fly ...

Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: PachmanP on November 10, 2011, 08:24:02 PM
Nah if he tries to play a Clinton card, he'd lose his base. What he needs to do is just get really good at golf.
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on November 10, 2011, 09:24:39 PM
normally i despise conspiracy theorists, but i head this one, and it almost makes sense. those that came forward were LW plants. ( aka obama camp ) whos afraid if cain gets the nomination it will split the black vote. well hed be the FIRST black candidate. obama being mixed race. but i digress, it DOES make sense. the guy has money, so why didnt they come forward sooner?
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: ojstinson on November 10, 2011, 09:50:01 PM
Obama will always get 90 percent of the black vote, he can continue to be the utter failure that he is ( with the exception of having Hell Fired and assassinated a slew of bad guys ) and it wont make a dent---look at the re-election of Marion Barry and Ray Nagan, two tried and true corrupt and useless individuals.
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on November 10, 2011, 09:51:47 PM
Quote from: ojstinson on November 10, 2011, 09:50:01 PM
Obama will always get 90 percent of the black vote, he can continue to be the utter failure that he is ( with the exception of having Hell Fired and assassinated a slew of bad guys ) and it wont make a dent---look at the re-election of Marion Barry and Ray Nagan, two tried and true corrupt and useless individuals.
oh yeah mr chocolate city. i forgot him. where was the racism charges from that one. and berry the dc mayor right? the one that had the drug issues or something like that.
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: ojstinson on November 10, 2011, 09:56:58 PM
They got him on tape in a sting operation smoking crack with prostitutes in a sleazy motel room--he claims he is innocent on the grounds that he was "set up".
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on November 10, 2011, 10:05:10 PM
Quote from: ojstinson on November 10, 2011, 09:56:58 PM
They got him on tape in a sting operation smoking crack with prostitutes in a sleazy motel room--he claims he is innocent on the grounds that he was "set up".
thats what it was. i remember now. brb gonna youtube find this. still gotta be there.
brb
found it well this, and a comedy one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVncpaZWxZE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXyxEQIk_Pw ( some coarse language here)
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on November 10, 2011, 10:10:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTMif8cGlcE&feature=related
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: ojstinson on November 10, 2011, 10:15:33 PM
You beat me to it Yama, I was on the verge of posting that.

That one had me rolling on the floor.
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on November 10, 2011, 10:26:35 PM
has it been 21 years ago already>? shaZam!. i remember this like yesterday. course i remember challenger, and chernobyl as well. BTW you remember henry louis gates?, that professor, obama went off on the cops for their issue? that one i can almsot agree wiht his POV and theirstoo. but ive been watching his documentaries recently on pbs. i do have respect for mr cain. most of these incidences are without merit it seems. no politician is a saint. but he is a businessman, and actually has experience. running a business. unliek obama who doesnt even have experience as a senator. most of his time there he was campaigning for president. ( check his votingf record ye shall see. ) or for a more general consensus on opinions of his highness, check youtube, theres FAR less out there now promoting him. FAR less. the sunshine blowers have retreated like the french army.

BUT to answer what should he do?, i say he should stick it out. obama tried with palin in alaska. bringing up things that never happened by her. or were done by others. but they were successful. i hope in this attempt, they get an utter dose of fail. even obummers illegal war in libya didnt get him hardly any credit lol. one he gave credit to the un. and 2 this was a war. our troops were firing weaponry into libya, ( justifiably so imho ) but his bandcamp of cheerleaders go on about bush's illegal wars, where they were not. congress voted on them into being. unliek libya. so not illegal ;).
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: ojstinson on November 11, 2011, 02:42:01 AM
That was a good one, when the radical muslin Major starts screaming ala ak bar and randomly shooting and killing everyone in sight at the Army base, the president tells us not to rush to judgement, but when his far left wing professor ( is there any other kind ) gets arrested for being an A hole and interfering with a police officer doing his job, the president of the United States gets on national TV, and without knowing anything about the situation, announces that the police "Acted Stupidly"----absolutely unbelievable!
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: ojstinson on November 11, 2011, 02:56:50 AM
I do like Cain and he would make a far better president than the uber wealthy socialist driven teleprompter in a suit we have running/ruining the country now, but the left, the black left in particular are going to do everything possible to destroy him----being black, he is just too big a threat because it throws a monkey wrench into their anti conservative race card machine. What an incredible coincidence that after 15 long years 4 publicity, fifteen minutes of fame, and money seeking women crawl out of the woodwork just when Cain starts gaining a little ground in the polls----what are the chances of something like that happening?
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: mister on November 11, 2011, 04:03:31 AM
Ah yes, get the populace bickering amongst each other. So much easier for us to implement our plans. Hmmm... let's distract them some more. Instead of a Arnie love child we'll make it a Bieber love child scandal. Well diss Palin cause of unwed births but ignore Obama unwed births. make a big deal about his birth cert, or not, oh look, swine flu part II coming to a media outlet near you. Not enough, maybe we can distract them with a Iran thing. Nah, ok, back to the old faithful sex scandal. Works every time.

Next

Michael
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on November 11, 2011, 06:23:24 AM
dont forget its ok for someone on obummersside to do coke. or kill someone, its just a tragic accident. ( chappequa) ( yes i dont liek to bring up somehting a dead person did. BUT its relevant. now.  BUT if someone on the rw did this. imimediate calls for impeachment. but for lw, Nooooooo cant have that, its ok.
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: The Buddha on November 11, 2011, 08:19:01 AM
Way too serious dude ... way too serious ...

However I've heard he's applying to be the football coach @ penn state. His SOP apparently has been nicely written out, its somethign like this ...

"Atleast they were all women"

Whoohoooo more stones ...

Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: NorwayGT1 on November 11, 2011, 11:29:36 AM
hey at least they were not hookers... give the man some slack, after all he got some class they were all white and blond lol

Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: mister on November 11, 2011, 12:19:49 PM
Hugh Grant backseat sidealley headjob. That's class.

Michael
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: The Buddha on November 11, 2011, 07:04:20 PM
Quote from: NorwayGT1 on November 11, 2011, 11:29:36 AM
hey at least they were not hookers... give the man some slack, after all he got some class they were all white and blond lol

Yea and one of em could ahve passed for Sarah Palin ... man this is too good, I wish tina fey would get some more freedom and air time on snl.
Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on November 12, 2011, 10:17:30 PM
i brought up kennedys issue decades ago. for relevance. yeah too serious ill agree. but take that and put cain in this sitation. cain is accused of harassment by people that hadnt come forward ever. , and te LW wants him to drop out. BUT if LW guy did samething. theyd be saying, noooooo just a mis-understanding. lets move along now. not saying RW are saints. this seems to happen on both sides. if a LW does somehting bad/poor taste, RW says he must suffer. while LW says meh, let him go. it didnt happen. , same with RW. 
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: The Buddha on November 14, 2011, 05:08:52 AM
Dude I dont think there is any real conspiracy afoot. Remember that Weiner dude, the issue is treated with the right kind of attitude ... only I didn't blog about it then, maybe I had other BS on my mind cos the weather was better and I was riding and wrenching more. So remmeber if you're grabbing some random chick better to do it in such a way that the store comes out during spring/summer. And better yet make it so she can pass off as sarah palin.
Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on November 14, 2011, 06:45:01 AM
its timing, and dirty politics methinks. half maybe all of these id say are meritless. otherwise someone would have said somehting before obama felt threatened by this guy
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: ojstinson on November 14, 2011, 09:07:28 AM
No Yama that's not true, they all just suddenly ( and independently ) after 15 years just decided "It was the right thing to do".------What would lead you to believe it was anything more than that?
I hope you're not going to imply that those women's motives had anything whatever to do with monetary gain or notoriety or that they were somehow encourage or enticed by the present administration for some sort of political gain or advantage.
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: The Buddha on November 14, 2011, 09:51:48 AM
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on November 14, 2011, 06:45:01 AM
its timing, and dirty politics methinks. half maybe all of these id say are meritless. otherwise someone would have said somehting before obama felt threatened by this guy

That's exactly what I said right in the first post - to appeal to democrats.
Y'a ... he's out to show how impotent obama really is ...

Yamahon and OJ - I also think you're listening to too much rush limbaugh. The person with the most to gain by herman cain's allegations is ... I'll give you a hint ... its the former front runner ... the one known for dirty campaining ... the one who's never lost an election ... the one who's created jobs while saying the govt cant create a job ... that one.

I do think there is a conspiracy afoot, however I dont think its where you think it is.

And really you never heard of strength in numbers have you ... there is 1 and there is 2 and it makes it so much better to be #3, #4 ... That is really why things like better business bureau, lemon laws etc etc  and whatever else exists for business, 1 complaint is likely to be ignored, a 100 is a pattern. You go to a dealer and see a lot of nice GS500's sitting there with a tape around it saying recalled due to lemon law ... you gonna drive off wiht a gs ?

The best thing for obama is a big fight in the republican party through april/may, and if herman cain was the front runner then, and the story came out then yes obama is suspect #1. Now if herman drops out, and anyone else get the nom right now, the game is much harder for obama. So if it was obama he's wasted a bullet. I'd almost bet it was Rick Perry, followed very distantly by the tea party followed by LW/Obama as the likeliest.

The problem with listening to rush is - see Obama - LW and the RW are both in varying degrees the puppets of the big $ banks, wall street and industry and what not. Rush and co glaze over that fact when they call Obama "king of wall street". Sadly everyone is king of wall street if they are the president or in the case of the earlier part of the decade VP.

Timing is everything, and its timing now is clearly in favor of rick perry.

Cool.
buddha.
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: ojstinson on November 14, 2011, 10:25:42 AM
Remember the "Anyone but Bush" chant at the end of his term, well, I think this time it's going to be " Anyone but Obama". Everyone but the diehard morons that believe what he is telling them rather than what they can see and feel are fed up with the complete and total disaster this guy has been, it's really not that complicated.

This "President" even makes Jimmy Carter, the worst president in history, look good, I think that's why crazy old Jimmy is so fond of him.

PS--And I think you are listening to and believing too many Obama speeches.
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: The Buddha on November 14, 2011, 12:41:41 PM
It wasn't "anyone but bush" in 08 - it was any one but the geezer with yellow teeth and the tenous touch with reality.

I am also not sure where the disaster assesment comes from - certainly it is not worse than it was in 08. One more of those lovely "Rush" to judgements I presume.

Sorry no obama speeches influence me - I have not seen any, I dont have time - I am of the belief that "if you vote it just encourages them" I will vote when one option makes me vote, either for him or the other.

As neutral as possible dude. I really need to be forced to vote this time. And sorry no ass grabbing rich black dude gonna make me bother, neither is impotent black dude ...

Obamacare = disaster, however Romneycare = Obamacare. If you pretend to care about that right there its a non starter.

BTW I work inside the financial industry, I get to see all the nuts and bolts on all the regulations in motion and seriously Obama has done very litte to curb the banks, and bush and McCain would have done even less, so any disaster tag to be pinned on Obama cannot be compared to those 2.

Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: NorwayGT1 on November 14, 2011, 01:01:43 PM
sooo is anyone worried about "2012" and the Mayan calender.. and etc??

i believe the antichrist has showed him self... and this is the end.... lmfao
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: The Buddha on November 14, 2011, 01:10:14 PM
What you not being paying attention, end of the world was Oct 21 2011, all done, over, Now its just computers are typing away ... oh yea oh yea my computers right wing alone can kick your computers left wings ass ... no contest baby. And then toss in the monitor too man It'll kick it too.

Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: mister on November 14, 2011, 04:11:40 PM
Yeah pay attention. The world ended in March, then again in August, then again in October. Of course, it previously ended when we ticked over to the year 2000. But before then it also ended when all the planets were in alignment in the 80s, or was that late 70s?

Oh yeah, our calender ends every year and we don't get upset about it. The mayan one is just longer is all.

We will not progress as a species until we lose this mystic mumbo jumbo.

Michael
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: NorwayGT1 on November 14, 2011, 04:29:05 PM
so let me recap... right wing kicks left wings ass... we have died and been resurrected about 10 times since the 70s..

hmmm we frikin rule man!  :icon_mrgreen:

fyi we wont progress as a species until we unite as one planet and go conquer some green alien space ass! lol
ohh and lights sabers are a must.. for progress to happened lol
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: The Buddha on November 14, 2011, 08:09:45 PM
That's exactly why I dont have no calendars hanging on my wall to tell no date ... I have carburetors. Today is the 13th of float bowl and its the 3rd week of the choke plunger and the 1/2 harvest diaphragm tells me the time of month for the woman is 2 weeks away ...
Dont need no steenking calendars to mess up my day see.

Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: NorwayGT1 on November 14, 2011, 08:14:22 PM
lol buddaha your my hero.....
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on November 14, 2011, 10:08:30 PM
Quote from: The Buddha on November 14, 2011, 08:09:45 PM
That's exactly why I dont have no calendars hanging on my wall to tell no date ... I have carburetors. Today is the 13th of float bowl and its the 3rd week of the choke plunger and the 1/2 harvest diaphragm tells me the time of month for the woman is 2 weeks away ...
Dont need no steenking calendars to mess up my day see.

Cool.
Buddha.
currently ½ past the pilot jet ¼ to the main.
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: mister on November 14, 2011, 11:40:03 PM
Quote from: NorwayGT1 on November 14, 2011, 04:29:05 PM

fyi we wont progress as a species until we unite as one planet and go conquer some green alien space ass! lol
ohh and lights sabers are a must.. for progress to happened lol

Uniting is not required. But shaking off our beliefs in mystical mumbo jumbo is. Otherwise we really are no different than the peoples of long past who thought spirits lived in all kinds of things and unless you "knocked on wood" or whatever, then those spirits would get you.

And there are countless people who still have these "superstitions".

Mentally, as a people, we need to go beyond this. Beyond looking to the Stars for guidance, or the tarot or runes or Chinese fortune cookies.

To fully understand, the sun does not set or rise, it remains relatively stationary and we either gain sight of it or lose sight depending on the planet's rotation.

Repeat after me, the earth is round, the earth is round  :thumb:

Michael
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on November 15, 2011, 01:58:58 AM
and moochelle trying to dictateto us what we can or cannot eat.  :cookoo:
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: NorwayGT1 on November 15, 2011, 11:52:35 AM
well if thats the case then we need to drop all religious beliefs to... (yes i know i know i just opened a whole can of worms on that one lol)

face it though man ppl use things like superstitions to be able to blame everything else for their problems except them self!
an quite frankly besides our ipods and new and improved cars we havent really came that far since the dark ages except that fact that we now know that the earth is round, and we believe in evolution... well at least some of us do anyways lol

(ohh and some nuts still dont think the earth is round by the way)
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: The Buddha on November 15, 2011, 12:58:22 PM
99% of the people know the earth is round. They also sadly believe its round and not a sphere ... Muhahahahahahahah  :flipoff:

Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: NorwayGT1 on November 15, 2011, 01:58:54 PM
lmao... its a paradox of alternate realities thats why we got time zones and different races we just dont realize its the same people just different versions of them ....


whats that... did i just blow your mind???? lol
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on November 15, 2011, 10:32:57 PM
im a religious guy who believes in evolution, that can be directly traced. aka GOD says okyall got this. deal with it.
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: Dr.McNinja on November 16, 2011, 12:48:58 AM
Quote from: The Buddha on November 10, 2011, 05:04:34 PM
I think he should just say that he's been sexually harassing women cos he needs to appeal to the democrats and he asked Clinton for advice and did what Clinton said.

Booya, let the stones fly ...

Cool.
Buddha.



The truth is when you're a celebrity staring at a woman constitutes sexual harassment. Every woman all the way through grade school you had ANY sort of a person relationship with will be running to the presses saying they were sexually harassed/abused/abducted by aliens because of you just to defame your name.

This isn't new. Women run the court system more so than the rich upper class corporate pigs. It's only been in the past 10 or so years that when a woman cries rape and points at a man the man isn't crucified in a court and permanently marked a degenerate heathen.

My point is that we'll never know the truth. He's in a particularly rough spot. If he was a Grade-A presidential candidate he'd just use money to silence any opposition any way he can. That's how America works, right?
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: mister on November 16, 2011, 03:04:07 AM
Quote from: NorwayGT1 on November 15, 2011, 11:52:35 AM
well if thats the case then we need to drop all religious beliefs to... (yes i know i know i just opened a whole can of worms on that one lol)

Yep, that's what it will take.

And we haven't come far from the dark ages in beliefs at all. We are the same superstitious folks scared of devils and evil spirits and whatever, while simultaneously enjoying more advanced technology.

Instead of praying to a wind spirit and water spirit and dirt spirit etc., we pray to one and think the multi-spirit praying person is a doofus. We think the person looking at tea leaves is silly while clamoring to read the daily horoscope in the paper. We... well, you get the idea.

I know the art of a Cold Reading. Google how to do it yourself. And if you can accept it, then you'll understand how John Edwards does what he does. Can he commune with the dead? I don't know. But I do know there are easy ways to do what he does, is all I am saying. If Yuri Gellar is mentally bending spoons he is doing it the hard way cause their are far easier magician-type ways to do that.

Now bow down all you heathens and worship the great flying spaghetti monster (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster)...

(http://www.bandwidthbiz.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/wpid-20101207164344-1287885520459_3c90c5ac52.jpg)

Michael
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: NorwayGT1 on November 16, 2011, 01:07:34 PM
holly shaZam! did me an mister agree on something  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on November 16, 2011, 10:30:57 PM
sorry mister i wont be getting into any christian bashing lol. if i were cain, id get my legal team to file defamation suits against the women, if be believes that strongly he is innocent, defamation/slander or libel.
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: mister on November 17, 2011, 03:46:43 AM
I don't recall advocating Christian Bashing.

Believing in some kind of higher power is one thing
Thanking that power is another
being fearful of that power is another
worshiping that power out of fear is another
Worshiping that power with others in an organized fashion with some other person as Leader of that Worship Group is another again

I think you will find a lot of the so-called leaders are really quite non-religious but they play a part to appeal to those who are religious. Much in the same way Sadam Hussien is seen head down tail up on a prayer mat praying to Allah. His brand of Islam does not do that. He played a part is all.

I wonder how many people on out last census put Jedi as their religion  :dunno_black:

Michael
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: NorwayGT1 on November 17, 2011, 02:47:13 PM
dude i wish i would have done that census thing just so i could have put Jedi as my religion lol... damn
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on November 18, 2011, 02:30:13 AM
directly no. indirectly however.
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: mister on November 18, 2011, 04:14:01 AM
Sorry Yammy... I lump all organised religions in the same boat. Except Islam cause the others don't have "smite them at the neck" in their "holy works".

Islam, is like Christianity.... there are different brands, with the main three being Wahhabi, Sunni and Shiite Islam. Shiite has the Ayatollah, Sunni has no real religious hierarchy and is more, what I would call "freestyle". Wahhabi comes from Saudi Arabia and they mostly fund the mosques you see getting built around the place. But, they get no pass from me.

Catholics, Anglicans, Protestants, Lutheran, Whatever Orthodox, etc., none get a pass from me. Simply easier for me to lump them all together. With the other organised religions of the other faiths and so on. So if you think a piece of text matches part of your belief that is your doing, not mine.

Michael
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on November 18, 2011, 05:22:54 AM
fair enough. just saying dont judge the whole group based upon actions of a small percentage. would be liek me judgin you as a motorcycle rider, based upon hte actions of a few hooligans ;).
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: mister on November 18, 2011, 11:26:10 AM
Or judging all govt employees based on the assholeness of some politicians. Or all Catholics cause of some pedophile priests. Or all women cause of a few gold diggers after anchor babies. Or all men cause of some yobbos. Or all unemployed cause of some welfare cheats who've done nothing but breed another generation of welfare leeches. Or...

Here's a not so funny thing... in the US this would be front page news all over the papers for days. I don't think so here....

There is a politician being accused and on trial for having sex with a 12 year old. This girls parents have been charged with 100 counts of prostituting her out. Supposedly, this pollie once even asked her what her Real age was, cause he was told she was 16 (legal age down here) or older. He denies it, and the allegations he made of movie of him doing it with her.

Must be something in the water the pollies drink  ;)

Michael
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on November 18, 2011, 11:21:31 PM
would i call you an idiot because of what a squid did/does on a litre bike?, no.
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: mister on November 19, 2011, 04:19:31 AM
Right, you cannot blame all German people for the war. Neither can you blame all Australians for Peter Andre.

Michael
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on November 19, 2011, 04:48:01 AM
maybe im reading this wrong, but this seems to be exactly what you are doing? maybe not idk. been a rough day lol
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: mister on November 19, 2011, 05:05:07 AM
Yeah, you're reading it wrong. As I said, once you read something you thought matched something in your head, then you think you see it everywhere.

I am accusing people - regardless of any religion they may or may not be a part of, regardless of any god they may or may not acknowledge or worship - of being full of superstitions.

Michael
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on November 19, 2011, 05:42:35 AM
Quote from: mister on November 19, 2011, 05:05:07 AM
Yeah, you're reading it wrong. As I said, once you read something you thought matched something in your head, then you think you see it everywhere.

I am accusing people - regardless of any religion they may or may not be a part of, regardless of any god they may or may not acknowledge or worship - of being full of superstitions.

Michael
fair enough. i think everyone falls into this group. though. there are no saints on earth. most dont draw attn to themselves, but some do. the rest have to deal with the backlash, and the labels applied to "their group" lol
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: mister on November 19, 2011, 12:25:52 PM
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on November 19, 2011, 05:42:35 AM
the rest have to deal with the backlash, and the labels applied to "their group" lol

"deal with the backlash" to "their group".

Simple solution.... if you don't like this Backlash do not associate with the Group receiving it.

BUT

That will NOT happen because IMO people WANT to be part of the controversy. They WANT to be a victim hard done by. They WANT to decry a foul. They want to have and play that downtrodden card. Pin it to their lapel and wear it like a badge of honor. It's hard to do that well as an individual so they do it as part of an affinity group.

For instance, I got this in the email the other day...

===
"ToleranceI am truly perplexed that so many of my friends are against another mosque being built in Sydney.

I think it should be the goal of every Australian to be tolerant.

Thus the Mosque should be allowed, in an effort to promote tolerance.
That is why I also propose that two nightclubs be opened next door to the mosque, thereby promoting tolerance from within the mosque.

We could call one of the clubs, which would be ghey, "The Turban Cowboy ", and the other a topless bar called "You Mecca Me Hot."

Next door should be a butcher shop that specializes in pork, and adjacent to that an open-pit barbeque pork restaurant, called "Iraq o' Ribs."

Across the street there could be a lingerie store called "Victoria Keeps Nothing Secret ", with sexy mannequins in the window modeling the goods.
Next door to the lingerie shop there would be room for an adult sex toy shop, "Koranal Knowledge ", its name in flashing neon lights, and on the other side a liquor store called "Morehammered."

All of this would encourage the Muslims to demonstrate the tolerance they demand of us, so the mosque problem would be solved.

If you agree with promoting tolerance, and you think this is a good plan, please pass it on..."
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I know a guy who says he is Muslim. He does not own a copy of the Quaran (something all Muslims should have as part of their Religion), he does not visit a mosque, does not pray at all to Allah, eats bacon and is engaged to a Christian girl. I asked him how he can still call himself a Muslim when he does none of the things being a Muslim entails. He said, "because I believe in Allah."
So just cause you believe Allah exists you're a Muslim?
Yes.

And boy does he get upset at so-called injustices on the Muslim people, how they are labeled for things, hard done buy, the non-Muslims don't understand, etc. He desires to be a part of the controversy.

Onward.

And if people cannot be a part of the controversy, they want to feel closer to it. And the media is much obliging with stories of the neighbor of the person or long lost highschool friend or local shopkeeper or whomever.

Me, I just move on. Which is to say, I do not feel the outrage of anything wrongdoing with any affinity group I may or may not belong to, nor do I feel the urge to align myself with any so I can feel the outrage.

If people spent the time and energy they put into feeling outraged into something more productive, they would not only be better off they would also discover who useless feeling outraged was.

I am not saying everything is a bed of roses and that there are not people out there is really are on the wrong end of the stick for whatever reasons and circumstances befell them. Just that for the majority of outrage-feelers, it is nothing more than wanting to feel the outrage and controversy or be closer to it, as if a part of it.

Michael
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on November 20, 2011, 12:05:48 AM
a good argument. and tbh for a while i thought about perhaps opening a bbq joint across from the ground zero mosque. but that aside, i became a christian, because of personal beliefs, that i myself took on. that no one forced upon me. i also have NO desire to be a part of a disenfranchised group i guess thats how you put it, to wear nothign upon my lapel. some christians, or athiests ot muslims buddhists etc, will associate withONLY those who share their beliefs, i consider you a friend, and would associate wiht you, regardless of your beliefs or lack thereof. i am my own person, as you are yours.  :cheers:
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: The Buddha on November 23, 2011, 08:56:16 PM
Quote from: mister on November 19, 2011, 12:25:52 PM
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on November 19, 2011, 05:42:35 AM
the rest have to deal with the backlash, and the labels applied to "their group" lol
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"ToleranceI am truly perplexed that so many of my friends are against another mosque being built in Sydney.

I think it should be the goal of every Australian to be tolerant.

Thus the Mosque should be allowed, in an effort to promote tolerance.
That is why I also propose that two nightclubs be opened next door to the mosque, thereby promoting tolerance from within the mosque.

We could call one of the clubs, which would be ghey, "The Turban Cowboy ", and the other a topless bar called "You Mecca Me Hot."

Next door should be a butcher shop that specializes in pork, and adjacent to that an open-pit barbeque pork restaurant, called "Iraq o' Ribs."

Across the street there could be a lingerie store called "Victoria Keeps Nothing Secret ", with sexy mannequins in the window modeling the goods.
Next door to the lingerie shop there would be room for an adult sex toy shop, "Koranal Knowledge ", its name in flashing neon lights, and on the other side a liquor store called "Morehammered."

All of this would encourage the Muslims to demonstrate the tolerance they demand of us, so the mosque problem would be solved.

If you agree with promoting tolerance, and you think this is a good plan, please pass it on..."
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Michael

This is funny, really funny, but not what would annoy muslims the most ...
I'd let them fight and fight and fight and make them pay to change the zoning to "religious" and this and that and then grant them the mosque permit ...

Then the next day I'd grant permits for a pair of churches right next to the mosque, one catholic and one protestant wiht them barely even asking for it ... cos its now religious zone, so they are religious ...

Across the street - you guessed it, a synagogue.
Next to it, a temple - the hindu kind and and on the other side of it a buddhist monastery.

To get to any of these places you need to go through the district you suggested ... that would now be hilarious.

Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: What should Herman Cain do.
Post by: ghostrider_23 on December 04, 2011, 06:53:30 AM
Well I guess we found out what Cain will do.

Now it's on to the next victim. Regardless on who gets in there needs to be term limits on how long politicians can stay