Okay, my main riding gloves have been a pair of Joe Rocket GPX 2.0s. I love them, but the full gauntlets are a pain to get on, especially when I'm just trying to ride back and forth to school. Right now I'm considering these options:
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/37/24488/ITEM/Joe-Rocket-Velocity-Gloves.aspx
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/37/35050/ITEM/Cortech-DX-2-Gloves.aspx
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/37/32407/ITEM/Speed-and-Strength-Off-the-Chain-Gloves.aspx
Any other recommendations? I'd like to order them from MSSS, as I'm already ordering several other items, and I have a coupon. I'm looking to order in the next day or so, so the sooner, the better.
Thanks!
All the ones you posted look like dirt bike gloves. They don't look like they offer much protection. Me personally, I would go with a perforated leather pair with some armour like these -
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/37/299/ITEM/Icon-Pursuit-Perforated-Gloves.aspx
But these look ok off of the same site and are close to your budget-
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/37/29987/ITEM/AGV-Sport-Mayhem-Short-Gloves.aspx
They're your hands but I am not gonna recommend you get the ones you posted. Spend the little extra for better protection. You will be wishing you had it as you are sliding down the road using your palm as a brake.
Check out RST gloves. I've got a pair and love them.
Quote from: aussiegs on January 31, 2012, 01:59:25 AM
Check out RST gloves. I've got a pair and love them.
I got a pair too but I think they're an Aussie brand or is that M2R?
Looks like I'm just going to have to pony up the extra cash. :dunno_black:
Anyone interested in some (virtually) brand new JR GPX 2.0s size medium? Lol. Great glove, but I really don't see myself wearing a full gauntlet all the time, especially considering I like to tuck my gloves inside my jacket.
Got a couple more options:
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/37/34610/ITEM/Teknic-Chicane-Short-Gloves.aspx
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/37/24443/ITEM/Joe-Rocket-Phoenix-4-0-Gloves.aspx
I was initially drawn to the JRs, but those Teknics are looking better and better the more I look at them.
RST is British M2R is Aussie.
Quote from: shonole on January 31, 2012, 02:14:07 AM
Looks like I'm just going to have to pony up the extra cash. :dunno_black:
Anyone interested in some (virtually) brand new JR GPX 2.0s size medium? Lol. Great glove, but I really don't see myself wearing a full gauntlet all the time, especially considering I like to tuck my gloves inside my jacket.
Got a couple more options:
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/37/34610/ITEM/Teknic-Chicane-Short-Gloves.aspx
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/37/24443/ITEM/Joe-Rocket-Phoenix-4-0-Gloves.aspx
I was initially drawn to the JRs, but those Teknics are looking better and better the more I look at them.
Those are far better than the ones you first posted :thumb:
Quote from: shonole on January 31, 2012, 02:14:07 AM
Looks like I'm just going to have to pony up the extra cash. :dunno_black:
Anyone interested in some (virtually) brand new JR GPX 2.0s size medium? Lol. Great glove, but I really don't see myself wearing a full gauntlet all the time, especially considering I like to tuck my gloves inside my jacket.
Keep your guantlets for cooler weather or rain.
Be thankful you don't have to pay the prices us Aussies have to pay for gear. Decent leather gloves will set you back $100+ here
Quote from: Twisted on January 31, 2012, 02:21:25 AM
Quote from: shonole on January 31, 2012, 02:14:07 AM
Looks like I'm just going to have to pony up the extra cash. :dunno_black:
Anyone interested in some (virtually) brand new JR GPX 2.0s size medium? Lol. Great glove, but I really don't see myself wearing a full gauntlet all the time, especially considering I like to tuck my gloves inside my jacket.
Got a couple more options:
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/37/34610/ITEM/Teknic-Chicane-Short-Gloves.aspx
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/37/24443/ITEM/Joe-Rocket-Phoenix-4-0-Gloves.aspx
I was initially drawn to the JRs, but those Teknics are looking better and better the more I look at them.
Those are far better than the ones you first posted :thumb:
I really like that the Teknics have a lot of goatskin (upper and palm) and kevlar lined palms as well.
I really like these too, but I'm already stretching my price range. Maybe I can work it out so I can get free shipping and come out better off. :icon_mrgreen:
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/37/302/ITEM/Icon-Pursuit-Stealth-Gloves.aspx
(Nearly identical to the ones posted earlier, just not perforated. I think I'd be able to get a little more use out of those than the perforated ones.)
Quote from: Twisted on January 31, 2012, 02:24:24 AM
Quote from: shonole on January 31, 2012, 02:14:07 AM
Looks like I'm just going to have to pony up the extra cash. :dunno_black:
Anyone interested in some (virtually) brand new JR GPX 2.0s size medium? Lol. Great glove, but I really don't see myself wearing a full gauntlet all the time, especially considering I like to tuck my gloves inside my jacket.
Keep your guantlets for cooler weather or rain
I'll more than likely be keeping them. They're not great in the cold, but I'm sure if I used a thin liner in them they'd do better. Really, really comfortable. I've been super satisfied with them, I'd just like something a little easier to get on/off, and with better dexterity. The GPXs are so thick at the fingertips that I find myself having to put my helmet on first instead of last as I'd prefer, simply because I can't get to the chin strap.
I wear short gloves too, but they're just my old gauntlet gloves with the gauntlets cut off haha. The padding/foam in the gaunlets dried out and got hard. Probably a sign they should just be replaced all together.
One thing to watch on short-cuff gloves is the use of nylon between the fingers... I saw some pics here of gloves with that stuff that had twisted around in a fall... hands were all torn up where the nylon had let go around the fingers. I bought a pair of these before seeing the pics and have been looking for a replacement since.
Don't know why leathers cost so much over there... you've got enough kangaroos running around to skin, right? :)
My winter gloves are a simple pair of thickish black leather gloves large enough to accept a liner. I think I paid $20 for them at either a farm and fleet type business or an army surplus store. Liners are $1/pr brown cloth. Point is, your best source for short gloves might be something meant for work, rather than riding.
Anybody here tried expensive gloves before? I've been burned twice now by Alpinestars that lack quality material and finishing. I'm thinking of trying Dainese.
What I'm really asking is: I ride everyday and safety, comfort and long term durability are some things I'm willing to pay a little extra for. In your collective experience, when have you seen expensive brands being worth it?
https://www.leatherup.com/site/product?pid=51537
what I got last year and have no real complains except not suited for cold riding.
also has good padding in the palms and near the wrist which saved me from rash in my wipe last year.
Glove shopping is best done in person, where all of the physical attributes of the glove can be matched to your hand. I picked up these on sale last year:
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/37/1229/ITEM/Tour-Master-HDX-Gloves.aspx?WT.ac=SLIsearch
the street version of the DX dirt gloves. Pliable leather palm (reinforcments where the throttle sits), and first 2 fingers have grippy texture on them. They have the neoprene between the fingers to keep you cool, and I'm not worried about crashing and mangling them, because they fit...like a glove... :icon_lol:
Quote from: shonole on January 31, 2012, 12:58:44 AM
Okay, my main riding gloves have been a pair of Joe Rocket GPX 2.0s. I love them, but the full gauntlets are a pain to get on, especially when I'm just trying to ride back and forth to school.
Errr.. you're not complaining about the heat.. you're just complaining about "getting them on" ???
My advice: get another "full gauntlet" pair, that you find easier to put on.
Quote from: Phil B on January 31, 2012, 08:17:48 AM
Quote from: shonole on January 31, 2012, 12:58:44 AM
Okay, my main riding gloves have been a pair of Joe Rocket GPX 2.0s. I love them, but the full gauntlets are a pain to get on, especially when I'm just trying to ride back and forth to school.
Errr.. you're not complaining about the heat.. you're just complaining about "getting them on" ???
My advice: get another "full gauntlet" pair, that you find easier to put on.
That's also in addition to the heat. I could survive wearing them, but anything above 85 and I imagine I'll melt. And here in south GA it will be well over that for 6 months or so.
Quote from: shonole on January 31, 2012, 11:30:49 AM
Quote from: Phil B on January 31, 2012, 08:17:48 AM
Errr.. you're not complaining about the heat.. you're just complaining about "getting them on" ???
My advice: get another "full gauntlet" pair, that you find easier to put on.
That's also in addition to the heat. I could survive wearing them, but anything above 85 and I imagine I'll melt. And here in south GA it will be well over that for 6 months or so.
There's an expression, "Don't borrow trouble".
IE: Dont spend money on something trivial that "might" be a problem. wait until you know for sure.
Keep in mind that well insulated gloves (as mc gloves should be), should keep your hand heat inside, in winter, but also keep air heat OUT, in summer, for a short time.
When you're up to speed, the wind chill should keep you comfy. So you only have to worry about stop light time, really.
And during the summer months... cycle shops around you are more likely to have a wider variety of vented gloves for you to try on.
Quote from: Phil B on January 31, 2012, 12:07:29 PM
Quote from: shonole on January 31, 2012, 11:30:49 AM
Quote from: Phil B on January 31, 2012, 08:17:48 AM
Errr.. you're not complaining about the heat.. you're just complaining about "getting them on" ???
My advice: get another "full gauntlet" pair, that you find easier to put on.
That's also in addition to the heat. I could survive wearing them, but anything above 85 and I imagine I'll melt. And here in south GA it will be well over that for 6 months or so.
There's an expression, "Don't borrow trouble".
IE: Dont spend money on something trivial that "might" be a problem. wait until you know for sure.
Keep in mind that well insulated gloves (as mc gloves should be), should keep your hand heat inside, in winter, but also keep air heat OUT, in summer, for a short time.
When you're up to speed, the wind chill should keep you comfy. So you only have to worry about stop light time, really.
And during the summer months... cycle shops around you are more likely to have a wider variety of vented gloves for you to try on.
I'm 99% sure that they will be to hot. It's been in the 70s this week and they're quite warm. I'm hot natured as it is, and if you combine that with the humidity, I end up sweating profusely in my gloves.
Quote from: Steel on January 31, 2012, 07:29:31 AM
Anybody here tried expensive gloves before? I've been burned twice now by Alpinestars that lack quality material and finishing. I'm thinking of trying Dainese.
Those Dainese gloves I had felt amazing. Comfortable and really nice quality, moreso than any other gloves I've had. Unfortunately they were ever so slightly too small. They probably cost about $120 retail before I got them on clearance. The ones I have now are fieldsheer and they're pretty comfortable as well, but no where near the quality of the dainese. Glove companies are just like anything else though, they all make nice stuff, and they all make cheap stuff, you get what you pay for. Cyclegear sells full leather gauntlet gloves for $30 with knuckleguards. I'll grab a pair of those one day, they seem worth the money. Doubt they'll last as long, but they'll still work in a crash.
Whether you get short or full length gloves, I'd still recommend something with knuckle guards on them. After riding with them, I'm really uncomfortable in gloves without them. I don't want to know what it feels like to punch the pavement at 65mph with nothing more than a thin layer of leather between my hand and the ground.
I look for carbon fibre hard knuckles, relativly thickish leather, Kevlar patching on the palm and fingers and comfort.
Quote from: shonole on January 31, 2012, 12:16:37 PM
I'm 99% sure that they will be to hot. It's been in the 70s this week and they're quite warm. I'm hot natured as it is, and if you combine that with the humidity, I end up sweating profusely in my gloves.
okay... but that in and of itself doesnt rule out proper gloves. It could only mean that YOUR gloves suck :)
I have a set of gloves that are full gauntlet, slightly thin leather, but with good knuckle protectors, and palm protectors.
They have only a couple of holes, on the back of the hand, in the middle of really tough armor bits. they are not "mesh" or anything like that.
These things are comfy in california summer weather (and are actually a bit chilly for california "winter" riding)
Sorry, I'd tell you the brand but company went out of business :( I bring them up, just to point out that its best to fork out a few extra bucks, to have comfort AND full protection.
Quote from: Phil B on January 31, 2012, 02:35:45 PM
Quote from: shonole on January 31, 2012, 12:16:37 PM
I'm 99% sure that they will be to hot. It's been in the 70s this week and they're quite warm. I'm hot natured as it is, and if you combine that with the humidity, I end up sweating profusely in my gloves.
okay... but that in and of itself doesnt rule out proper gloves. It could only mean that YOUR gloves suck :)
I have a set of gloves that are full gauntlet, slightly thin leather, but with good knuckle protectors, and palm protectors.
They have only a couple of holes, on the back of the hand, in the middle of really tough armor bits. they are not "mesh" or anything like that.
These things are comfy in california summer weather (and are actually a bit chilly for california "winter" riding)
Sorry, I'd tell you the brand but company went out of business :( I bring them up, just to point out that its best to fork out a few extra bucks, to have comfort AND full protection.
They've gotten excellent reviews, and actually vent very well. The armored portion of the gloves has a vast amount of ventilation, in fact.
The difference is, here in south GA the average temperature is 5-10 degrees warmer than California, and the average humidity is 20-30% higher. That humidity makes a humongous difference.
http://www.rideicon.com/product_details.jsp?category=3431&id=11976
My gloves, I live in Florida too. Goat leather for the palm and finders, the leather takes some breaking in, but my father said goat leather wears quickly. he plays racket ball or some weird sport like that, and uses goat leather gloves. Idk how they protect in a fall, but i've had a couple of rocks smack me in the hands and its held up, the mesh part got a little "torn" i'll be looking for better gloves sometime when i can afford, but I did get them for 35 bucks.
Decent prices but the leather is a bit thin compared to pricier gloves. http://leatherup.com/c/Leather-Gloves/2/162.html
-Jessie
Quote from: shonole on January 31, 2012, 03:51:04 PM
Quote from: Phil B on January 31, 2012, 02:35:45 PM
Quote from: shonole on January 31, 2012, 12:16:37 PM
I'm 99% sure that they will be to hot. It's been in the 70s this week and they're quite warm. I'm hot natured as it is, and if you combine that with the humidity, I end up sweating profusely in my gloves.
okay... but that in and of itself doesnt rule out proper gloves. It could only mean that YOUR gloves suck :)
I have a set of gloves that are full gauntlet, slightly thin leather, but with good knuckle protectors, and palm protectors.
They have only a couple of holes, on the back of the hand, in the middle of really tough armor bits. they are not "mesh" or anything like that.
These things are comfy in california summer weather (and are actually a bit chilly for california "winter" riding)
Sorry, I'd tell you the brand but company went out of business :( I bring them up, just to point out that its best to fork out a few extra bucks, to have comfort AND full protection.
They've gotten excellent reviews, and actually vent very well. The armored portion of the gloves has a vast amount of ventilation, in fact.
The difference is, here in south GA the average temperature is 5-10 degrees warmer than California, and the average humidity is 20-30% higher. That humidity makes a humongous difference.
Sweaty hands are preferable to skin grafts. I'm from your neck of the woods and wouldn't think twice about gloves that might be a little warmer but offer superior protection.
I have a drawer full of ventilated gloves that seemed like a good idea at the time but now I won't wear. I do keep one pair of the better ones in my tank bag in case something happens to my primary gloves while I'm out.
Quote from: XealotX on January 31, 2012, 06:56:31 PM
Quote from: shonole on January 31, 2012, 03:51:04 PM
Quote from: Phil B on January 31, 2012, 02:35:45 PM
Quote from: shonole on January 31, 2012, 12:16:37 PM
I'm 99% sure that they will be to hot. It's been in the 70s this week and they're quite warm. I'm hot natured as it is, and if you combine that with the humidity, I end up sweating profusely in my gloves.
okay... but that in and of itself doesnt rule out proper gloves. It could only mean that YOUR gloves suck :)
I have a set of gloves that are full gauntlet, slightly thin leather, but with good knuckle protectors, and palm protectors.
They have only a couple of holes, on the back of the hand, in the middle of really tough armor bits. they are not "mesh" or anything like that.
These things are comfy in california summer weather (and are actually a bit chilly for california "winter" riding)
Sorry, I'd tell you the brand but company went out of business :( I bring them up, just to point out that its best to fork out a few extra bucks, to have comfort AND full protection.
They've gotten excellent reviews, and actually vent very well. The armored portion of the gloves has a vast amount of ventilation, in fact.
The difference is, here in south GA the average temperature is 5-10 degrees warmer than California, and the average humidity is 20-30% higher. That humidity makes a humongous difference.
Sweaty hands are preferable to skin grafts. I'm from your neck of the woods and wouldn't think twice about gloves that might be a little warmer but offer superior protection.
I have a drawer full of ventilated gloves that seemed like a good idea at the time but now I won't wear. I do keep one pair of the better ones in my tank bag in case something happens to my primary gloves while I'm out.
That's the truth. I'd still like to get a pair of short cuffs just to have. I'll probably end up getting these Teknics:
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/37/34610/ITEM/Teknic-Chicane-Short-Gloves.aspx
Although I'm still drawn to those Icon Pursuits. Something about those Teknics I keep coming back to though. I like the JRs I posted earlier too. Guess I'll decide one day. Lol.
we need someone who's gone into a slide with and without gloves on, to compare. :D
I put it like this, have you fallen off your bike when you were little? scraped your hands up pretty badly huh? Now that's only going like maybe 4mph, Try 40mph...
Quote from: J_Walker on January 31, 2012, 10:24:35 PM
we need someone who's gone into a slide with and without gloves on, to compare. :D
I put it like this, have you fallen off your bike when you were little? scraped your hands up pretty badly huh? Now that's only going like maybe 4mph, Try 40mph...
I've seen enough bike wrecks over the years to know ATGATT. But that doesn't mean it can't be comfortable gear! Lol.
Experience here, that isnt specifically 'glove' related, but is related to "smaller safety equipment".
I had an "off", with a particular pair of riding pants. They had knee protection. only trouble is... the protection was in a very limited area.
The pants slipped a bit while I was on the ground.
This afforded me about .5 seconds of protected knee, and 1.5 seconds of unprotected, I would guess.
The good news is, i still have a kneecap. The bad news is, I ended up with an UGLY chunk gouged out of my knee (among other things). Not to mention the pain of riding home with shredded skin against shredded fabric.
Are you REAAALLY sure that smaller gloves wont slip on you in any way? or ride up? yes? Wonderful, have fun.
Otherwise.. stick with the full length ones, is my advice.
Quote from: shonole on January 31, 2012, 10:16:31 PM
That's the truth. I'd still like to get a pair of short cuffs just to have. I'll probably end up getting these Teknics:
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/37/34610/ITEM/Teknic-Chicane-Short-Gloves.aspx
Although I'm still drawn to those Icon Pursuits. Something about those Teknics I keep coming back to though. I like the JRs I posted earlier too. Guess I'll decide one day. Lol.
Those gloves look fine. Is there a store you can try a set on before you buy close by?
Quote from: Phil B on January 31, 2012, 11:14:35 PM
Experience here, that isnt specifically 'glove' related, but is related to "smaller safety equipment".
I had an "off", with a particular pair of riding pants. They had knee protection. only trouble is... the protection was in a very limited area.
The pants slipped a bit while I was on the ground.
This afforded me about .5 seconds of protected knee, and 1.5 seconds of unprotected, I would guess.
The good news is, i still have a kneecap. The bad news is, I ended up with an UGLY chunk gouged out of my knee (among other things). Not to mention the pain of riding home with shredded skin against shredded fabric.
Are you REAAALLY sure that smaller gloves wont slip on you in any way? or ride up? yes? Wonderful, have fun.
Otherwise.. stick with the full length ones, is my advice.
I really can't see how they would. I wear a Shift Avenger as my primary jacket, and it was quite long sleeves. They're also adjustable, and I tighten them as much as possible. In addition, the elbow armor comes a significant length down my forearm. I feel confident that if I choose a pair of short gloves with extra padding around the palm/side of my hand, I should be okay. Like I said, I will still be wearing my JR full gauntlets quite a bit, I'm just looking for an extra pair to have for short trips around town/to school.
Quote from: Twisted on January 31, 2012, 11:37:02 PM
Quote from: shonole on January 31, 2012, 10:16:31 PM
That's the truth. I'd still like to get a pair of short cuffs just to have. I'll probably end up getting these Teknics:
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/37/34610/ITEM/Teknic-Chicane-Short-Gloves.aspx
Although I'm still drawn to those Icon Pursuits. Something about those Teknics I keep coming back to though. I like the JRs I posted earlier too. Guess I'll decide one day. Lol.
Those gloves look fine. Is there a store you can try a set on before you buy close by?
Unfortunately not. However, my hands are a solid medium, and I prefer my gloves a bit tight. I will be ordering a medium, and if they don't fit, MSSS has an excellent return policy.
Quote from: Steel on January 31, 2012, 07:29:31 AM
Anybody here tried expensive gloves before? I've been burned twice now by Alpinestars that lack quality material and finishing. I'm thinking of trying Dainese.
Dianese is quality gear. I have a jacket and cannot fault it. I am guessing their gloves would be similar. Being Italian and all :tongue2:
Nice glove. Nothing fancy. Asphalt tested mine in MSF class. Still wear them! :thumb:
http://www.foxcreekleather.com/69-mens-deerskin-gloves/481-black-cascadia-deerskin-gloves
Quote from: shonole on January 31, 2012, 10:16:31 PM
Quote from: XealotX on January 31, 2012, 06:56:31 PM
Quote from: shonole on January 31, 2012, 03:51:04 PM
Quote from: Phil B on January 31, 2012, 02:35:45 PM
Quote from: shonole on January 31, 2012, 12:16:37 PM
I'm 99% sure that they will be to hot. It's been in the 70s this week and they're quite warm. I'm hot natured as it is, and if you combine that with the humidity, I end up sweating profusely in my gloves.
okay... but that in and of itself doesnt rule out proper gloves. It could only mean that YOUR gloves suck :)
I have a set of gloves that are full gauntlet, slightly thin leather, but with good knuckle protectors, and palm protectors.
They have only a couple of holes, on the back of the hand, in the middle of really tough armor bits. they are not "mesh" or anything like that.
These things are comfy in california summer weather (and are actually a bit chilly for california "winter" riding)
Sorry, I'd tell you the brand but company went out of business :( I bring them up, just to point out that its best to fork out a few extra bucks, to have comfort AND full protection.
They've gotten excellent reviews, and actually vent very well. The armored portion of the gloves has a vast amount of ventilation, in fact.
The difference is, here in south GA the average temperature is 5-10 degrees warmer than California, and the average humidity is 20-30% higher. That humidity makes a humongous difference.
Sweaty hands are preferable to skin grafts. I'm from your neck of the woods and wouldn't think twice about gloves that might be a little warmer but offer superior protection.
I have a drawer full of ventilated gloves that seemed like a good idea at the time but now I won't wear. I do keep one pair of the better ones in my tank bag in case something happens to my primary gloves while I'm out.
That's the truth. I'd still like to get a pair of short cuffs just to have. I'll probably end up getting these Teknics:
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/37/34610/ITEM/Teknic-Chicane-Short-Gloves.aspx
Although I'm still drawn to those Icon Pursuits. Something about those Teknics I keep coming back to though. I like the JRs I posted earlier too. Guess I'll decide one day. Lol.
Ordered the Teknics tonight. I'll let you know in a week or so how they are.
Also, if anyone is looking for a lightweight, cheap pair of riding gloves (doubtful, I know), you might want to take a look at these:
http://www.motorcyclecloseouts.com/sport/motorcycle+gloves/shift_stealth+gloves+-+2011
I use these when it is OMG hot. http://www.hucknroll.com/fox-bomber-glove-mens?
The gauntlets do not allow air to go up the sleeves. I mean when it is 96 out with matching humidity you need all the airflow you can get. Passing out on the bike due to heat stroke isn't ideal either. I also have a pair of Icon Gsxr female gloves that are all leather and are comfortable.
You might want to check out Cyclegear.com too. They have some good deal on gloves too.
Mary
Quote from: Toogoofy317 on February 03, 2012, 05:32:07 PM
Passing out on the bike due to heat stroke isn't ideal either.
That is a valid point. I don't deny the importance of safety gear but you do have to balance it with rider fatigue. The best accident is the one you avoid. Full leathers is the safest way to go but it is not always practical. I wear leather in the cooler months but in the summer I wear mesh armored jackets. While they may not be as safe as leather I think it is more unsafe to get dehydrated and heat exhaustion commuting in stop and go traffic on a 90 degree day. Safety can be a trade off. My 2 cents...
-Jessie
I couldn't agree more Jessie!
When we met you saw my hot weather riding. Mesh jacket with armor, FF helmet, boots, shorty gloves and riding pants. I always have a bottle of cold water in the tank bag.
Dehydration can sneak up on you!
Mary