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Title: Battery?
Post by: Kijona on February 22, 2012, 09:25:58 AM
Anybody know what the part number is for the Walmart Everstart AGM battery for the GS?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Battery?
Post by: Worm on February 22, 2012, 10:17:52 AM
They don't have the correct one. Part number ES10LA2 is the closest but the discharge tube is on the wrong side of the battery.
Title: Re: Battery?
Post by: gsJack on February 22, 2012, 10:44:57 AM
No Walmart AGM to fit the GS as far as I know.  Some here use the larger ES12BS AGM but it is laid on the side and some mods are required to apply it.

http://wiki.gstwins.com/index.php?n=Main.Battery

I'm on my second Scorpion now and both only took a couple days to get here to Ohio from the west coast by priority shipping which is included in the price, fits right in like a stock 10L-B2 and ready to go.

http://www.batterystuff.com/batteries/motorcycle/sYT10L-A2.html
Title: Re: Battery?
Post by: Kijona on February 22, 2012, 10:47:19 AM
Alright, thanks guys. I appreciate the info.
Title: Re: Battery?
Post by: Kijona on February 22, 2012, 10:54:07 AM
Quote from: Worm on February 22, 2012, 10:17:52 AM
They don't have the correct one. Part number ES10LA2 is the closest but the discharge tube is on the wrong side of the battery.

Wait, that shouldn't be a problem, right? It's an AGM battery...it's sealed!
Title: Re: Battery?
Post by: adidasguy on February 22, 2012, 10:56:41 AM
(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb442/adidasguy/Videos/book1.gif) Let me interject a little wisdom here.

This is beginning to sound like another someone that buys a Wallymart battery to save $20 then does nothing but complain about battery problems and starts to say the GS is a POS.

Please do yourself a favor and spare the rest of us from woefully sad future tales of grief (http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb442/adidasguy/Videos/nopity.gif) and get the right part and fix it the correct way.

How many times have we had threads about starting problems and electrical problems due to someone saving a few dollars on a battery? Invest in a good battery and the correct one. Your bike will love you for that. (http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb442/adidasguy/Videos/bj11.gif)

Get the WallyWorld battery and I promise not to respond to postings about why the battery dies or your bike has starting problems or why thing don't run right. (http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb442/adidasguy/Videos/naughty.gif)

Another shocking buy typical thing we see is someone buying the wrong part (i.e. battery) to save $20 then spends weeks and more $ modifying things to make the wrong part fit (mod battery box for wrong battery) all the while they wish they could be riding.  :cookoo:
Title: Re: Battery?
Post by: Kijona on February 22, 2012, 11:05:24 AM
Quote from: adidasguy on February 22, 2012, 10:56:41 AM
(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb442/adidasguy/Videos/book1.gif) Let me interject a little wisdom here.

This is beginning to sound like another someone that buys a Wallymart battery to save $20 then does nothing but complain about battery problems and starts to say the GS is a POS.

Please do yourself a favor and spare the rest of us from woefully sad future tales of grief (http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb442/adidasguy/Videos/nopity.gif) and get the right part and fix it the correct way.

How many times have we had threads about starting problems and electrical problems due to someone saving a few dollars on a battery? Invest in a good battery and the correct one. Your bike will love you for that. (http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb442/adidasguy/Videos/bj11.gif)

Get the WallyWorld battery and I promise not to respond to postings about why the battery dies or your bike has starting problems or why thing don't run right. (http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb442/adidasguy/Videos/naughty.gif)

Another shocking buy typical thing we see is someone buying the wrong part (i.e. battery) to save $20 then spends weeks and more $ modifying things to make the wrong part fit (mod battery box for wrong battery) all the while they wish they could be riding.  :cookoo:

I've had past experiences with the Evertstart batteries from Walmart...their AGM batteries are pretty good. That's the only reason I was thinking of them.

I guess you're right though...shouldn't waste time or money trying to shoehorn something in when I can spend a few more bucks and get one somewhere else.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Battery?
Post by: CndnMax on February 22, 2012, 12:21:53 PM
Quote from: gsJack on February 22, 2012, 10:44:57 AM


I'm on my second Scorpion now and both only took a couple days to get here to Ohio from the west coast by priority shipping which is included in the price, fits right in like a stock 10L-B2 and ready to go.

http://www.batterystuff.com/batteries/motorcycle/sYT10L-A2.html

I'll second the scorpion battery. Great for cold weather and I don't even use my battery tender anymore. The bike can sit for a few weeks and start up just fine.
Title: Re: Battery?
Post by: Funderb on February 22, 2012, 12:40:34 PM
i got a duralast battery at autozone that fits perfectly, only took overnight to charge up and has 180cca
more than enough to start in the 23deg night we had recently.

CB10L-A2 FP

EDIT: This battery is rated 11Ah More than adequate in this application. The same battery was installed by the PO and lasted 10 years.

49.99 with core.

All you have to do is relocate the vent hose. That takes about 1.5 seconds.
Title: Re: Battery?
Post by: seamax on February 22, 2012, 01:06:05 PM
I got an AGM battery from walmart last summer. So far it has been great. I've taken the bike out once a month just to start and run her for about 10 mins since parking it in November and she's cranked up everytime.

I got the smaller one, I think ES9BS, because I have it mounted in my tail instead of under the seat. 
Title: Re: Battery?
Post by: xunedeinx on February 22, 2012, 01:27:40 PM
http://www.ballisticparts.com/products/batteries/batteries.php

My next battery when this one finally gives up the ghost.

I picked up one of the big ones in the box, I originally thought the box was empty...

A small one starts at 50 bucks, their sealed, and have a 3 year warrenty
Title: Re: Battery?
Post by: adidasguy on February 22, 2012, 01:53:42 PM
Power.vs.Price is about the same as Shorai.
Seems they are also LiFePO4 batteries.
The $50 one is half the capacity of our standard battery. You need the $99 one for the same power. Then, same price as Shorai. Their $159 is about the same as the Shorai $149 battery (15ah vs 14ah).

Either would be OK. However, the $50 one is woefully inadequate (4ah)

So either is OK.But you need to spend $99 for an adequate battery. The $50 just won't cut it (it is rated for a 50cc scooter  :icon_eek: )
Title: Re: Battery?
Post by: Kijona on February 22, 2012, 07:14:10 PM
I needed the battery immediately. I just went to Autozone and picked up the only battery for a motorcycle they had. Thankfully, it was one that fits the GS and one that hadn't been "f'ed with".

Thanks guys.
Title: Re: Battery?
Post by: Funderb on February 22, 2012, 10:08:39 PM
which one did ya get?
Title: Re: Battery?
Post by: Kijona on February 22, 2012, 10:26:58 PM
Sorry for the cruddy pictures...
(http://i.imgur.com/YoI87.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/KcwTS.jpg)

I just noticed...apparently that's an SV650 on the front of the box. Cool! :P

I really would've preferred to have an AGM battery but what the hell, right? It wasn't expensive at all and it does have a warranty...albeit not much of one.
Title: Re: Battery?
Post by: xunedeinx on February 22, 2012, 11:47:21 PM
Thats the battery I have now, and will be getting rid of.

If you lean too far, itll leak out acid. I have the missing paint to prove it.
Title: Re: Battery?
Post by: k.rollin on February 23, 2012, 12:29:48 AM
This is what I put in my bike last winter:
http://www.impactbattery.com/motobatt-mb10u.html
Title: Re: Battery?
Post by: Kijona on February 23, 2012, 06:25:48 AM
Quote from: xunedeinx on February 22, 2012, 11:47:21 PM
Thats the battery I have now, and will be getting rid of.

If you lean too far, itll leak out acid. I have the missing paint to prove it.

That sounds absurd (not that I don't believe you). If it does that I'll take it back.

As I said, I needed the battery right away, otherwise I would've ordered a really nice one like Adidas uses or something similar. I would've liked to have had an AGM battery from Walmart (yes, yes I know...but I've had good experiences with them).
Title: Re: Battery?
Post by: twocool on February 23, 2012, 07:25:14 AM
Quote from: xunedeinx on February 22, 2012, 11:47:21 PM
Thats the battery I have now, and will be getting rid of.

If you lean too far, itll leak out acid. I have the missing paint to prove it.

You mean "leaning" while riding, or "leaning" like your bike fell over in the garage?

During riding, the electrolyte level will remain parallel to the top of the battery, no matter how far you lean....laws of physics and all that..

Cookie

Title: Re: Battery?
Post by: Kijona on February 23, 2012, 07:32:37 AM
Quote from: twocool on February 23, 2012, 07:25:14 AM
Quote from: xunedeinx on February 22, 2012, 11:47:21 PM
Thats the battery I have now, and will be getting rid of.

If you lean too far, itll leak out acid. I have the missing paint to prove it.

You mean "leaning" while riding, or "leaning" like your bike fell over in the garage?

During riding, the electrolyte level will remain parallel to the top of the battery, no matter how far you lean....laws of physics and all that..

Cookie

Could you expound, please? I'm failing to see how what you're saying is possible.
Title: Re: Battery?
Post by: xunedeinx on February 23, 2012, 09:18:43 AM
I was in a parking lot once, practicing tight turns and whatnot (I can do u-turns in 1.5 car spaces.... as in if their like this | | | | from one line to the next, I can almost turn in one space.

Well, got back, and it was wet on the side of the bike, thought I hit a puddle. Next morning it was white and chalky and ate my paint.
Title: Re: Battery?
Post by: Worm on February 23, 2012, 10:21:14 AM
Expounding.....

You stay on the bike when cornering, right? That's the same g-forces that keeps the electrolyte in the battery when cornering.
Title: Re: Battery?
Post by: adidasguy on February 23, 2012, 10:49:36 AM
Not so much riding as pointed out as forces keep the acid in the bottom of the battery. It is when you park. Especially if you park on tilted ground and your bike really leans to the left. That's when the acid starts to drip out. Even with a drain hose, it is not good for the battery to get low on acid.

Hence the drain goes on the right side.
Title: Re: Battery?
Post by: SS Adrenaline on February 23, 2012, 11:40:17 AM
Quote from: adidasguy on February 22, 2012, 10:56:41 AM
(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb442/adidasguy/Videos/book1.gif) Let me interject a little wisdom here.

This is beginning to sound like another someone that buys a Wallymart battery to save $20 then does nothing but complain about battery problems and starts to say the GS is a POS.

Please do yourself a favor and spare the rest of us from woefully sad future tales of grief (http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb442/adidasguy/Videos/nopity.gif) and get the right part and fix it the correct way.

How many times have we had threads about starting problems and electrical problems due to someone saving a few dollars on a battery? Invest in a good battery and the correct one. Your bike will love you for that. (http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb442/adidasguy/Videos/bj11.gif)

Get the WallyWorld battery and I promise not to respond to postings about why the battery dies or your bike has starting problems or why thing don't run right. (http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb442/adidasguy/Videos/naughty.gif)

Another shocking buy typical thing we see is someone buying the wrong part (i.e. battery) to save $20 then spends weeks and more $ modifying things to make the wrong part fit (mod battery box for wrong battery) all the while they wish they could be riding.  :cookoo:

Very well said,  Go with a better battery, your GS deserves it.  :)
Title: Re: Battery?
Post by: Kijona on February 23, 2012, 12:16:49 PM
Quote from: Worm on February 23, 2012, 10:21:14 AM
Expounding.....

You stay on the bike when cornering, right? That's the same g-forces that keeps the electrolyte in the battery when cornering.

Duh...lol sorry. Downward force caused by the cornering...I get it.

Sorry, I only had 4 hours of sleep last night...steroids the doc gave me are keeping me up.
Title: Re: Battery?
Post by: xunedeinx on February 25, 2012, 11:23:44 PM
Quote from: Worm on February 23, 2012, 10:21:14 AM
Expounding.....

You stay on the bike when cornering, right? That's the same g-forces that keeps the electrolyte in the battery when cornering.

You, and the one time I went down, the bike was on its right side, so no reason for the battery to drip.
Title: Re: Battery?
Post by: Kijona on February 25, 2012, 11:35:11 PM
Quote from: xunedeinx on February 25, 2012, 11:23:44 PM
Quote from: Worm on February 23, 2012, 10:21:14 AM
Expounding.....

You stay on the bike when cornering, right? That's the same g-forces that keeps the electrolyte in the battery when cornering.

You, and the one time I went down, the bike was on its right side, so no reason for the battery to drip.

He's saying that the forces of the bike turning will cause the fluid to be pushed towards the center of gravity - in this case, it causes the battery fluid level to stay level, even through a turn. For the same reason you can swing a bucket of water around and around (fast enough, of course), and the water will not fall out.
Title: Re: Battery?
Post by: xunedeinx on February 27, 2012, 09:26:21 AM
All I know is the LEFT side of the bike is acid stained, and it fell on its RIGHT side.

maybe hard bumps?

Battery gremlins?
Title: Re: Battery?
Post by: Worm on February 27, 2012, 09:51:20 AM
Quote from: Kijona on February 25, 2012, 11:35:11 PM
Quote from: xunedeinx on February 25, 2012, 11:23:44 PM
Quote from: Worm on February 23, 2012, 10:21:14 AM
Expounding.....

You stay on the bike when cornering, right? That's the same g-forces that keeps the electrolyte in the battery when cornering.

You, and the one time I went down, the bike was on its right side, so no reason for the battery to drip.

He's saying that the forces of the bike turning will cause the fluid to be pushed towards the center of gravity - in this case, it causes the battery fluid level to stay level, even through a turn. For the same reason you can swing a bucket of water around and around (fast enough, of course), and the water will not fall out.

I started to use a very similar metaphor then decided to go with staying on the bike!
Title: Re: Battery?
Post by: Funderb on February 27, 2012, 01:05:08 PM
I routed my vent hose under the left seat fairing and out the tail of the bike, Read: slightly higher than the battery,

it vents fumes just fine and has never leaked. Try that out if leaking is a problem.