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Title: want to max a gs for 1/4 mile
Post by: mahemmjr on May 16, 2012, 05:32:59 PM
So I think I'd like to build my Gs500f to the max. What's the max potential of these bikes? Any numbers or slips?
Title: Re: want to max a gs for 1/4 mile
Post by: NesquikNinja on May 16, 2012, 05:57:03 PM
Buy a different bike  :thumb:
Title: Re: want to max a gs for 1/4 mile
Post by: redge on May 16, 2012, 06:40:27 PM
Quote from: NesquikNinja on May 16, 2012, 05:57:03 PM
Buy a different bike  :thumb:

+1, unfortunately
Title: Re: want to max a gs for 1/4 mile
Post by: Suzuki Stevo on May 16, 2012, 06:41:55 PM
As previously mentioned....polishing turds can be done, if you throw enough money at the terd polishing process, I would choose a terd that shines a bit more to begin with, this minimizes the amount of money needed to make the terd a shiny terd  :thumb:

Ha...forum turns "turds" spelled in singular form to "poop"...so I have to spell it "terd", now that's funny!

Title: Re: want to max a gs for 1/4 mile
Post by: jestercinti on May 16, 2012, 07:08:15 PM
Buy a busa.  Goes real fast in a straight line.
Title: Re: want to max a gs for 1/4 mile
Post by: mahemmjr on May 16, 2012, 07:11:50 PM
I wish. So with my mods, the usual suspension mods and some pirellis can I see 13s?
Title: Re: want to max a gs for 1/4 mile
Post by: NesquikNinja on May 16, 2012, 07:23:29 PM
your best bet is practice. Practice could probably shave some time.

mods will be mostly irrelavant.
Title: Re: want to max a gs for 1/4 mile
Post by: mahemmjr on May 16, 2012, 07:25:57 PM
Any personal bests?
Title: Re: want to max a gs for 1/4 mile
Post by: Gunslinger on May 16, 2012, 07:56:31 PM
http://www.dragtimes.com/Suzuki--Motorcycle-Drag-Racing.html

15) 12.990* 98.642  8.130    1.900  Suzuki Motorcycle GS500e 1994  Gabriel Fournier 
16) 13.824 92.180  8.636  77.950  1.931  Suzuki Motorcycle gs500f 2004  brad kimbler 
17) 14.245* 92.220  9.052  76.370  2.086  Suzuki Motorcycle GS500E 1992  Nik Grubach 

You can click the times and see a description.

A 15t front sprocket on my 09 did wonders for getting out of the hole quicker.
Title: Re: want to max a gs for 1/4 mile
Post by: mahemmjr on May 16, 2012, 09:19:55 PM
See everyone told me 15t didnt do anything. What's the top end on that? I heard we top at 110 regardless
Title: Re: want to max a gs for 1/4 mile
Post by: comradeiggy on May 16, 2012, 09:52:52 PM
Quote from: mahemmjr on May 16, 2012, 09:19:55 PM
See everyone told me 15t didnt do anything. What's the top end on that? I heard we top at 110 regardless
No, they told you that you're not going to improve the top end with a 15t.
Title: Re: want to max a gs for 1/4 mile
Post by: mahemmjr on May 16, 2012, 09:56:35 PM
Clearly. They argued that the drop only affects the initial movement. I figured it would move you through the revs faster.
Title: Re: want to max a gs for 1/4 mile
Post by: redge on May 16, 2012, 10:54:56 PM
15front will bring faster acceleration, so maxing it.... 3tooth should be good :flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff:
Title: Re: want to max a gs for 1/4 mile
Post by: piresito on May 17, 2012, 02:56:15 AM
less 1 tooth in the front, less two plus two in the rear, get the best air filter and exhaust, rejet, and I can't think of nothing else. Why you don't get your hands in a old CBR, VFR, GSXR, RF600 or RF900...you might score one of those for a good price and any of them will be a completely different story!


EDIT: sorry, mistaken advice in the rear sprocket!
Title: Re: want to max a gs for 1/4 mile
Post by: ohgood on May 17, 2012, 04:00:27 AM
Wrong bike. Period.
Title: Re: want to max a gs for 1/4 mile
Post by: mister on May 17, 2012, 04:02:54 AM
Quote from: mahemmjr on May 16, 2012, 09:56:35 PM
Clearly. They argued that the drop only affects the initial movement. I figured it would move you through the revs faster.

You're reading what you want to read.  :icon_rolleyes:

You were told... it will only take off faster than a stock. Once that initial thing has been done, the bikes will be even but the 15t will be in front until it tops out and the stock passes it.

Again... if a 15t and stock 16t are in a race, the 15 will pull away first - until - the 16 gets into the revs. At That Point, the bikes will then be evenly matched - with the 15 still that bit in front - until the 15 tops out and the 16 catches and passes.

Seeing as you seem so keen to race this thing in a straight line for 400 meters, change the exhaust, change the airbox, rejet the bike, drop one on the front and go up two or three on the rear. Also, bore it out to an even 500 or 550 instead of the 487 it is. Good luck.

If I wanted faster, I'd save myself the hassle and just buy a faster bike to begin with  :thumb:

Michael
Title: Re: want to max a gs for 1/4 mile
Post by: jdoorn14 on May 17, 2012, 05:13:47 AM
Quote from: mister on May 17, 2012, 04:02:54 AM

Seeing as you seem so keen to race this thing in a straight line for 400 meters, change the exhaust, change the airbox, rejet the bike, drop one on the front and go up two or three on the rear. Also, bore it out to an even 500 or 550 instead of the 487 it is. Good luck.

If I wanted faster, I'd save myself the hassle and just buy a faster bike to begin with  :thumb:


By the time you spend all the $$ to do this list of mods, you'll be at the price of an older bike that would do this speed/time with all stock parts. But, if you really want to live your life a quarter mile at a time, you'll need to find a way to put on at least a 20 shot of NOS.   :2guns:
Title: Re: want to max a gs for 1/4 mile
Post by: bombsquad83 on May 17, 2012, 06:10:55 AM
Quote from: jdoorn14 on May 17, 2012, 05:13:47 AM
Quote from: mister on May 17, 2012, 04:02:54 AM

Seeing as you seem so keen to race this thing in a straight line for 400 meters, change the exhaust, change the airbox, rejet the bike, drop one on the front and go up two or three on the rear. Also, bore it out to an even 500 or 550 instead of the 487 it is. Good luck.

If I wanted faster, I'd save myself the hassle and just buy a faster bike to begin with  :thumb:


By the time you spend all the $$ to do this list of mods, you'll be at the price of an older bike that would do this speed/time with all stock parts. But, if you really want to live your life a quarter mile at a time, you'll need to find a way to put on at least a 20 shot of NOS.   :2guns:

Sounds like a really expensive method of suicide to me.
Title: Re: want to max a gs for 1/4 mile
Post by: The Buddha on May 17, 2012, 07:00:49 AM
Dont listen to these clowns. In a 1/4 mile - easiest way, toss it out of an airplane.
In fact if the plane can be in a dive while you toss it it will be even faster.

That's the real meaning of "jetting" it ... he he.

Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: want to max a gs for 1/4 mile
Post by: fraze11 on May 17, 2012, 07:06:58 AM
If you wanna live your life a 1/4 mile at a time...you gotta ask Toretto for permission first...
(http://i47.tinypic.com/4k8z2h.jpg)
Title: Re: want to max a gs for 1/4 mile
Post by: SAFE-T on May 17, 2012, 07:27:12 AM
Given that the GS500 won't even reach 110mph in a 1/4 mile according to posted stats, changing gearing should help get you a slightly faster time. It still won't have any effect on the overall power output of the bike though, so please stop relating gearing to the amount of 'top end' the bike has, lest you be REALLY taunted by a group of people with more disdain for your obvious lack of knowledge.
Title: Re: want to max a gs for 1/4 mile
Post by: SAFE-T on May 17, 2012, 07:31:55 AM
Because I think the members of this forum have been forthright and patient with you, whereas the people you appear to be hoping to impress are bound to enjoy belittling you to no end.
Title: Re: want to max a gs for 1/4 mile
Post by: mahemmjr on May 17, 2012, 09:00:17 AM
True. Idk I guess until i can get another bike ill just practice slow passes
Title: Re: want to max a gs for 1/4 mile
Post by: jdoorn14 on May 17, 2012, 09:15:14 AM
Quote from: fraze11 on May 17, 2012, 07:06:58 AM
If you wanna live your life a 1/4 mile at a time...you gotta ask Toretto for permission first...

Excellent! You recognized the quote.

I like the response from Torque (2004), though (also from the makers of F&F)...http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0329691/quotes?qt=qt0363107 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0329691/quotes?qt=qt0363107)
Title: Re: want to max a gs for 1/4 mile
Post by: MVent03 on May 17, 2012, 09:16:42 AM
The fastest GS500 will have nothing on any inline 4 from my experience. Its just setting yourself up for disappointment.
Title: Re: want to max a gs for 1/4 mile
Post by: burning1 on May 17, 2012, 12:18:05 PM
Quote from: mister on May 17, 2012, 04:02:54 AMAgain... if a 15t and stock 16t are in a race, the 15 will pull away first - until - the 16 gets into the revs. At That Point, the bikes will then be evenly matched - with the 15 still that bit in front - until the 15 tops out and the 16 catches and passes.

If you're race launching the bike, it should never be below power peak on a GS500. Re-gearing would probably make the process a little easier, and require less clutch-slip though. If I were building a drag bike, I'd probably reduce the gearing a little, and map the gearing chart against the power band.
Title: Re: want to max a gs for 1/4 mile
Post by: mahemmjr on May 17, 2012, 05:55:36 PM
Belittle? Hardly. I asked a question and got nothing but arguement and contradiction. just wanted to play and upgrade a lil the sprockets like twenty bucks
Title: want to max a gs for 1/4 mile
Post by: jdoorn14 on May 17, 2012, 06:02:09 PM
Quote from: mahemmjr on May 17, 2012, 05:55:36 PM
Belittle? Hardly. I asked a question and got nothing but arguement and contradiction. just wanted to play and upgrade a lil the sprockets like twenty bucks

Dude. Seriously. No one is trying to tell you not to change your sprockets. We are just cautioning you that you shouldn't expect miracles front a GS...like running a 13s 1/4 mile.
Title: Re: want to max a gs for 1/4 mile
Post by: fraze11 on May 18, 2012, 06:14:37 AM
Quote from: mahemmjr on May 17, 2012, 05:55:36 PM
Belittle? Hardly. I asked a question and got nothing but arguement and contradiction. just wanted to play and upgrade a lil the sprockets like twenty bucks
Well, *technically* you asked; So I think I'd like to build my Gs500f to the max. What's the max potential of these bikes? Any numbers or slips?

"to the max" (in my opinion anyway) means just that ... so I think everyone was just sayin' that unless you have unlimited funds (or dont care how much it costs) to "max" the GS is goona cost you and the ROI for that will be negligible.  It would definately be a labour of love :)  But if you do max your GS and bore it out, piston, sprockets, pipe, jet, intake, port, polish, max max max...let us know...I'd wanna see that!  :thumb:

Title: Re: want to max a gs for 1/4 mile
Post by: jdoorn14 on May 18, 2012, 06:34:20 AM
Quote from: fraze11 on May 18, 2012, 06:14:37 AM
But if you do max your GS and bore it out, piston, sprockets, pipe, jet, intake, port, polish, max max max...let us know...I'd wanna see that!  :thumb:

Exactly! We all want to see what it takes to turn a $5k (new) Standard into a $15k (new) Supersport...like your custom manufactured aluminum frame, which inline 4 you would use to replace the original parallel twin, etc. If you start modding the hell out of your GS to "max it out" we need PICS!!  :bowdown:

Title: Re: want to max a gs for 1/4 mile
Post by: SAFE-T on May 18, 2012, 09:02:45 AM
There is a guy on here who 'maxed' his GS500 for salt flats racing, but that's about it. He managed to get the bike to put out several times its original power output, but at what cost I couldn't tell you. More than $20, that's for sure LOL. But he wanted to break the LSR (Land Speed Record) in a category where the current record holder was a 2-stroke V-4 Grand Prix bike, so if he did it I imagine his ROI was priceless :)
Title: Re: want to max a gs for 1/4 mile
Post by: oneNonlyTu on May 18, 2012, 01:32:57 PM
Quote from: The Buddha on May 17, 2012, 10:00:49 AM (http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=60592.msg699619#msg699619)<blockquote>Dont listen to these clowns. In a 1/4 mile - easiest way, toss it out of an airplane.
In fact if the plane can be in a dive while you toss it it will be even faster.

That's the real meaning of "jetting" it ... he he.

Cool.
Buddha.


Whoa, buddha forgot about terminal velocity.  While plane in dive is fast, and theoretically throwing something forward makes it faster, the bike will hit terminal velocity as soon as it is thrown out because it has terrible aerodynamics, while plane is silky smooth.

Just leave the bike in the plane while nose diving with engines in full blast!  quarter mile in 1/4 mpm!  mpm = miles per mach, aka speed of sound.
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