Are these Suzuki's GS500's made ( built ) in Spain? :dunno_black:
its made in Japan and China, I'll let you ponder on that :icon_confused:
Yours is, mines not :flipoff: and you can ponder that as well :cool:
Quote from: codajastal on March 19, 2013, 02:24:24 AM
Yours is, mines not :flipoff: and you can ponder that as well :cool:
I'm in the US everything's made in China!!!!!!!! :tongue2:
Quote from: wayne242 on March 19, 2013, 02:25:19 AM
Quote from: codajastal on March 19, 2013, 02:24:24 AM
Yours is, mines not :flipoff: and you can ponder that as well :cool:
I'm in the US everything's made in China!!!!!!!! :tongue2:
I dont think it matters what country you are in.........except maybe China :dunno_black:
Quote from: codajastal on March 19, 2013, 02:27:53 AM
Quote from: wayne242 on March 19, 2013, 02:25:19 AM
Quote from: codajastal on March 19, 2013, 02:24:24 AM
Yours is, mines not :flipoff: and you can ponder that as well :cool:
I'm in the US everything's made in China!!!!!!!! :tongue2:
I dont think it matters what country you are in.........except maybe China :dunno_black:
I always thought Chinese where to smart to use the're own products :dunno_white:
Quote from: wayne242 on March 19, 2013, 02:30:07 AM
Quote from: codajastal on March 19, 2013, 02:27:53 AM
Quote from: wayne242 on March 19, 2013, 02:25:19 AM
Quote from: codajastal on March 19, 2013, 02:24:24 AM
Yours is, mines not :flipoff: and you can ponder that as well :cool:
I'm in the US everything's made in China!!!!!!!! :tongue2:
I dont think it matters what country you are in.........except maybe China :dunno_black:
I always thought Chinese where to smart to use the're own products :dunno_white:
With an educated guess.. I was always thinking Spain, just with what I've seen and read over the last few months... It tells me it's from Spain. :flipoff:
Mine was made in Spain: I'm Belgian.
Don't know if all european GS' were built there. I'll look into it.
Quote from: codajastal on March 19, 2013, 02:24:24 AM
Yours is, mines not :flipoff: and you can ponder that as well :cool:
Cods.... I know nothing about bikes.....SERIOUSLY!!! "Like YOU!" :icon_lol:
Quote from: W79 on March 19, 2013, 02:44:18 AM
Mine was made in Spain: I'm Belgian.
Don't know if all european GS' were built there. I'll look into it.
Thanks pal... I look forward to what you uncover. :thumb:
I'm pretty sure they been made in Japan and China mainly the last few years or so. but then again that could just be the one's coming to the US. :dunno_black:
Europeans get all the good stuff :flipoff:
Quote from: wayne242 on March 19, 2013, 02:53:42 AM
I'm pretty sure they been made in Japan and China mainly the last few years or so. but then again that could just be the one's coming to the US. :dunno_black:
Europeans get all the good stuff :flipoff:
Prolly... I'm thinking the bike that land in OZ are from Spain :dunno_black:
If your bike as this symbol on the forks it is made in Spain
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff62/icecreamhands/0a102bce-c10f-4a64-b7fb-c1a7e5626c67_zpsec9091fb.jpg)
my 2010 GS500F is made in Spain saw a December 2012 build yesterday also made in Spain, this is in Australia
Quote from: Twisted on March 19, 2013, 03:08:51 AM
If your bike as this symbol on the forks it is made in Spain
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff62/icecreamhands/0a102bce-c10f-4a64-b7fb-c1a7e5626c67_zpsec9091fb.jpg)
Ain't got one of them. :o
As I said before Both MINE ARE MADE IN JAPAN :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
Yours is made in Spain :icon_razz: :icon_razz: :icon_razz: :icon_razz:
Quote from: codajastal on March 19, 2013, 03:14:33 AM
As I said before Both MINE ARE MADE IN JAPAN :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
Yours is made in Spain :icon_razz: :icon_razz: :icon_razz: :icon_razz:
Cods.. I don't have a symbol like the one in the pic.. So ya reckon mine is definitely made in Spain :icon_question:
Quote from: peterscotts on March 19, 2013, 03:17:40 AM
Quote from: codajastal on March 19, 2013, 03:14:33 AM
As I said before Both MINE ARE MADE IN JAPAN :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
Yours is made in Spain :icon_razz: :icon_razz: :icon_razz: :icon_razz:
Cods.. I don't have a symbol like the one in the pic.. So ya reckon mine is definitely made in Spain :icon_question:
AFAIK all the latest GS's are made in Spain. The older ones like mine were Japan. I COULD be wrong and often am but I am pretty sure.
Quote from: codajastal on March 19, 2013, 03:18:51 AM
Quote from: peterscotts on March 19, 2013, 03:17:40 AM
Quote from: codajastal on March 19, 2013, 03:14:33 AM
As I said before Both MINE ARE MADE IN JAPAN :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
Yours is made in Spain :icon_razz: :icon_razz: :icon_razz: :icon_razz:
Cods.. I don't have a symbol like the one in the pic.. So ya reckon mine is definitely made in Spain :icon_question:
AFAIK all the latest GS's are made in Spain. The older ones like mine were Japan. I COULD be wrong and often am but I am pretty sure.
Cool... Thanks pal.. So I can say it's not a Jap bike :icon_question:
Quote from: peterscotts on March 19, 2013, 03:20:20 AM
Cool... Thanks pal.. So I can say it's not a Jap bike :icon_question:
LOL
here is a thread on the exact question asked before
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=44053.0
Does your vin number start with a V?
Sledge posted this about 5 years ago
"Yeah....all the Fs and the last Es were built in Spain, they moved them over around 2002."
Quote from: Twisted on March 19, 2013, 03:23:02 AM
Does your vin number start with a V?
It sure does Twisted
Quote from: codajastal on March 19, 2013, 03:22:28 AM
Quote from: peterscotts on March 19, 2013, 03:20:20 AM
Cool... Thanks pal.. So I can say it's not a Jap bike :icon_question:
LOL
here is a thread on the exact question asked before
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=44053.0
Thanks Cods.... So really I havn't got a Jap bike.. I have a Spanish one! :icon_lol:
Then it is made in Spain. J for Japan.
Quote from: Twisted on March 19, 2013, 03:31:51 AM
Then it is made in Spain. J for Japan.
Cool thanks Twisted... I now have a European motorcycle :woohoo: :cheers: :bowdown: :thumb:
Quote from: peterscotts on March 19, 2013, 03:42:11 AM
Quote from: Twisted on March 19, 2013, 03:31:51 AM
Then it is made in Spain. J for Japan.
Cool thanks Twisted... I now have a European motorcycle :woohoo: :cheers: :bowdown: :thumb:
:D At least I can say its not a Jap bike.. Ha ha!!! :icon_lol:
Vtt vin=Suzuki moto espania
J vin=Japan.
They moved to Spain in the early 1990s to save $$ for their smaller low margin bikes.
A lot if companies do that.
Look up vin country of final manufacture in Google. You'll learn a lot.
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My GS is a 2010 Spanish build. It plays havoc with US-based VIN decoders that try to tell me it is a 1980 model. Other decoder try to tell me it is a 2-stroke with an engine between 300 and 399cc. :cookoo:
Nov last Suzuki announced it was closing it's Spanish motorcycle factory in Gijon. Workers have out up a bit of a fight but the Spanish economy is fcuked and 31 March next seems to be slated as the final day for the Suzuki production line. So, that's that for the GS500 and a whole lot of other Suzuki Spain bikes. Never been really clear but got a suspicion that the GS500 motor is Jap built and the Spanish team make/assemble the cycle parts. Suzuki have been remaindering the end of line GS500 stock at amazing prices. Suzuki now looking to China for a deal of its bike production.
The GS500 was a surprisingly strong seller in Australia last year but I can see the new Honda 500 killing it even if Suzuki doesn't. It doesn't matter where it is made, the GS needs to be updated with EFI, a valvetrain that requires a lot less attention and an ABS option. Water-cooling may also help with market perceptions but I'm not sure it is necessary and it may reduce reliability.
Quote from: Banzai on March 19, 2013, 04:39:13 AM
My GS is a 2010 Spanish build. It plays havoc with US-based VIN decoders that try to tell me it is a 1980 model. Other decoder try to tell me it is a 2-stroke with an engine between 300 and 399cc. :cookoo:
Same!
Quote from: jestercinti on March 19, 2013, 04:37:13 AM
Vtt vin=Suzuki moto espania
J vin=Japan.
They moved to Spain in the early 1990s to save $$ for their smaller low margin bikes.
A lot if companies do that.
Look up vin country of final manufacture in Google. You'll learn a lot.
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Thanks jestercinti
Quote from: noworries on March 19, 2013, 06:43:01 AM
Nov last Suzuki announced it was closing it's Spanish motorcycle factory in Gijon. Workers have out up a bit of a fight but the Spanish economy is fcuked and 31 March next seems to be slated as the final day for the Suzuki production line. So, that's that for the GS500 and a whole lot of other Suzuki Spain bikes. Never been really clear but got a suspicion that the GS500 motor is Jap built and the Spanish team make/assemble the cycle parts. Suzuki have been remaindering the end of line GS500 stock at amazing prices. Suzuki now looking to China for a deal of its bike production.
Interesting... Thanks!! :thumb:
Quote from: Twisted on March 19, 2013, 03:08:51 AM
If your bike as this symbol on the forks it is made in Spain
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff62/icecreamhands/0a102bce-c10f-4a64-b7fb-c1a7e5626c67_zpsec9091fb.jpg)
I cant make out the symbol inside that, but mine as the same thing on the forks.
Quote from: Banzai on March 19, 2013, 07:08:04 AM
The GS500 was a surprisingly strong seller in Australia last year but I can see the new Honda 500 killing it even if Suzuki doesn't. It doesn't matter where it is made, the GS needs to be updated with EFI, a valvetrain that requires a lot less attention and an ABS option. Water-cooling may also help with market perceptions but I'm not sure it is necessary and it may reduce reliability.
How much for the new Honda 500.. Ride-Away :icon_question:
Quote from: wayne242 on March 19, 2013, 05:58:59 PM
Quote from: Twisted on March 19, 2013, 03:08:51 AM
If your bike as this symbol on the forks it is made in Spain
I cant make out the symbol inside that, but mine as the same thing on the forks.
Isn't this a better indicator of where it is made?
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Quote from: peterscotts on March 19, 2013, 06:00:07 PM
Quote from: Banzai on March 19, 2013, 07:08:04 AM
The GS500 was a surprisingly strong seller in Australia last year but I can see the new Honda 500 killing it even if Suzuki doesn't. It doesn't matter where it is made, the GS needs to be updated with EFI, a valvetrain that requires a lot less attention and an ABS option. Water-cooling may also help with market perceptions but I'm not sure it is necessary and it may reduce reliability.
How much for the new Honda 500.. Ride-Away :icon_question:
Just found out.. Around 2 grand more... AUD
Quote from: adidasguy on March 19, 2013, 06:10:00 PM
Quote from: wayne242 on March 19, 2013, 05:58:59 PM
Quote from: Twisted on March 19, 2013, 03:08:51 AM
If your bike as this symbol on the forks it is made in Spain
I cant make out the symbol inside that, but mine as the same thing on the forks.
Isn't this a better indicator of where it is made?
Is that the engine as well or is it just assembled in Spain with a Jap motor :icon_question:
Quote from: codajastal on March 19, 2013, 03:26:16 AM
Sledge posted this about 5 years ago
"Yeah....all the Fs and the last Es were built in Spain, they moved them over around 2002."
Stick around long enough and you will see the questions never change, only the people answering them :D
Quote from: peterscotts on March 19, 2013, 05:55:54 PM
Quote from: Banzai on March 19, 2013, 04:39:13 AM
My GS is a 2010 Spanish build. It plays havoc with US-based VIN decoders that try to tell me it is a 1980 model. Other decoder try to tell me it is a 2-stroke with an engine between 300 and 399cc. :cookoo:
Same!
Found an Aussie Vin Decoder.. See >>> http://www.irego.com.au/free-vin-decoder.php :bowdown:
Quote from: sledge on March 19, 2013, 06:26:19 PM
Quote from: codajastal on March 19, 2013, 03:26:16 AM
Sledge posted this about 5 years ago
"Yeah....all the Fs and the last Es were built in Spain, they moved them over around 2002."
Stick around long enough and you will see the questions never change, only the people answering them :D
That's because if a new person comes to a forum and asks a question that is ignored or flamed for it leaves. If you know the answer why not just type it, after all you already clicked the topic and read it..
If i had this mind set i would not do fire education at schools every year, after all they ask the same questions...
Quote from: wayne242 on March 19, 2013, 06:35:12 PM
Quote from: sledge on March 19, 2013, 06:26:19 PM
Quote from: codajastal on March 19, 2013, 03:26:16 AM
Sledge posted this about 5 years ago
"Yeah....all the Fs and the last Es were built in Spain, they moved them over around 2002."
Stick around long enough and you will see the questions never change, only the people answering them :D
That's because if a new person comes to a forum and asks a question that is ignored or flamed for it leaves. If you know the answer why not just type it, after all you already clicked the topic and read it..
If i had this mind set i would not do fire education at schools every year, after all they ask the same questions...
SPOT ON! :thumb:
Quote from: peterscotts on March 19, 2013, 06:27:06 PM
Quote from: peterscotts on March 19, 2013, 05:55:54 PM
Quote from: Banzai on March 19, 2013, 04:39:13 AM
My GS is a 2010 Spanish build. It plays havoc with US-based VIN decoders that try to tell me it is a 1980 model. Other decoder try to tell me it is a 2-stroke with an engine between 300 and 399cc. :cookoo:
Same!
Found an Aussie Vin Decoder.. See >>> http://www.irego.com.au/free-vin-decoder.php :bowdown:
Used the decoder... Result is
Region EUROPE
Country Spain
Make SUZUKI
Year --
:woohoo:
Yeah .. made by this guy ... or his brother .. or his sister!!!! (http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/newsletter/images2007/2007-01_StOurs-Mechanic.jpg) (http://cdn2.sulitstatic.com/images/2012/1123/09192921_091702724490dee403216654c134dd904213eb657198f258e.jpg)
(http://servicingstopblog.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Becoming-a-mechanic.jpg)
.. their cousins collect the parts ... (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_qu1yeEDHPFE/TLEMSCythZI/AAAAAAAAAEI/zp_OWAXlcHk/s1600/DSCF1787.JPG)
and give them to this guy for transport!! (http://morocconewstribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/A-Moroccan-judge-Suspended-For-Forcing-Mechanic-to-Kiss-Shoes.jpg) ....
he stores and sorts them .. selecting only the best and finest!! (http://www.motorcyclecolorado.com/images/Steele-019.jpg)
.... and perfection is BORN!! (http://procycles.com.au/main/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Suzuki-GS500F-470x353.png)
... so much more interesting than the BORING japanese method .. (http://blog.motorcycle.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/suzuki_gsxr1000.png)
... bahahahahahaaaaaa
:icon_lol: :thumb:
Quote from: wayne242 on March 19, 2013, 06:35:12 PM
Quote from: sledge on March 19, 2013, 06:26:19 PM
Stick around long enough and you will see the questions never change, only the people answering them :D
That's because if a new person comes to a forum and asks a question that is ignored or flamed for it leaves. If you know the answer why not just type it, after all you already clicked the topic and read it..
If i had this mind set i would not do fire education at schools every year, after all they ask the same questions...
I'm pretty sure Sledge wouldn't expect school kids to search a forum. And I am pretty sure you ask "Any questions?". So you want to throw another non-sequitur?
Quote from: Paulcet on March 19, 2013, 07:48:07 PM
Quote from: wayne242 on March 19, 2013, 06:35:12 PM
Quote from: sledge on March 19, 2013, 06:26:19 PM
Stick around long enough and you will see the questions never change, only the people answering them :D
That's because if a new person comes to a forum and asks a question that is ignored or flamed for it leaves. If you know the answer why not just type it, after all you already clicked the topic and read it..
If i had this mind set i would not do fire education at schools every year, after all they ask the same questions...
I'm pretty sure Sledge wouldn't expect school kids to search a forum. And I am pretty sure you ask "Any questions?". So you want to throw another non-sequitur?
So your saying high school kids don't ride motorcycle, good to know. Also "And I am pretty sure you ask "Any questions?"." needs to be re-typed to be understandable. Need a wet nap to wipe the brown of your nose?
Quote from: wayne242 on March 19, 2013, 06:35:12 PM
That's because if a new person comes to a forum and asks a question that is ignored or flamed for it leaves. If you know the answer why not just type it, after all you already clicked the topic and read it..
I don't flame or belittle anyone for asking questions, everyone starts somewhere :dunno_black:....but I did get bored years ago answering those same old, same old questions that constantly pop up in here and these days I prefer to leave such matters to those who.....well those who don't mind constantly repeating themselves and enjoy getting the kudos for it. :thumb:...and lets not even mention the `whats the best oil/tyres/plugs/brake fluid/chains etc etc` questions :D
Don't worry though, I still like to chime in on the more obscure, involved and complicated issues that need some real experience and engineering knowhow to answer, ones that the newbies like you tend to struggle with, incidentaly dont think I am on my own here, if you open your eyes you will see there are many more like me in here who do the same. :thumb:
Oh and....If I see someone that gives out info that I know is wrong or misleading and that could have some nasty consequences if taken on board or followed I might also choose to say something. Like I did when you suggested hosing down a bike covered in fire extinguisher residue that might have contained monoammonium phosphate. Tsk tsk tsk :cookoo: You do know how corrosive that stuff becomes when it mixes with water and turns into phosphoric acid and what that in turn does to aluminium and magnesium alloys and other soft metals don't you? :dunno_black:
If not I suggest you find out ASAP :thumb:
Quote from: sledge on March 19, 2013, 09:43:18 PM
Quote from: wayne242 on March 19, 2013, 06:35:12 PM
That's because if a new person comes to a forum and asks a question that is ignored or flamed for it leaves. If you know the answer why not just type it, after all you already clicked the topic and read it..
I don't flame or belittle anyone for asking questions, everyone starts somewhere :dunno_black:....but I did get bored years ago answering those same old, same old questions that constantly pop up in here and these days I prefer to leave such matters to those who.....well those who don't mind constantly repeating themselves and enjoy getting the kudos for it. :thumb:...and lets not even mention the `whats the best oil/tyres/plugs/brake fluid/chains etc etc` questions :D
Don't worry though, I still like to chime in on the more obscure, involved and complicated issues that need some real experience and engineering knowhow to answer, ones that the newbies like you tend to struggle with, incidentaly dont think I am on my own here, if you open your eyes you will see there are many more like me in here who do the same. :thumb:
Oh and....If I see someone that gives out info that I know is wrong or misleading and that could have some nasty consequences if taken on board or followed I might also choose to say something. Like I did when you suggested hosing down a bike covered in fire extinguisher residue that might have contained monoammonium phosphate. Tsk tsk tsk :cookoo: You do know how corrosive that stuff becomes when it mixes with water and turns into phosphoric acid and what that in turn does to aluminium and magnesium alloys and other soft metals don't you? :dunno_black:
If not I suggest you find out ASAP :thumb:
PFFFF Motor Cycle ... Was it GOD? :icon_lol: :flipoff:
(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee181/dogbpy2007/catfight.jpg)
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa176/emt18970/catfight.jpg)
Geez Sledge, if I had known quoting you was gonna start a sh1tfight I would have not mentioned it lol :icon_rolleyes:
(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/userpics/13049/popcornsmall.gif)
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRAuN9PkTrqymeVw1fPA9mtLcj_TD2Ag9blk3IebNPpnctoHMVTNA)
So is this gonna get Tarded now :dunno_white:
Guy made a comment......I answered :dunno_black:
Working on it.
(http://www.statepress.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Spanish-Happy-Cat.jpg)
Quote from: sledge on March 19, 2013, 11:47:22 PM
Guy made a comment......I answered :dunno_black:
Well that'll teach you :icon_confused:
Quote from: Janx101 on March 19, 2013, 07:16:51 PM
Yeah .. made by this guy ... or his brother .. or his sister!!!!
(http://servicingstopblog.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Becoming-a-mechanic.jpg)
She can work on my bike anytime.
Insert inappropriate joke about test rides.
Quote from: Banzai on March 20, 2013, 12:23:46 AM
Quote from: Janx101 on March 19, 2013, 07:16:51 PM
Yeah .. made by this guy ... or his brother .. or his sister!!!!
(http://servicingstopblog.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Becoming-a-mechanic.jpg)
She can work on my bike anytime.
Insert inappropriate joke about test rides.
Id like to test ride that :whisper:
Woops I gotta stop thinking out loud
Quote from: codajastal on March 20, 2013, 12:25:35 AM
Quote from: Banzai on March 20, 2013, 12:23:46 AM
Quote from: Janx101 on March 19, 2013, 07:16:51 PM
Yeah .. made by this guy ... or his brother .. or his sister!!!!
(http://servicingstopblog.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Becoming-a-mechanic.jpg)
She can work on my bike anytime.
Insert inappropriate joke about test rides.
Id like to test ride that :whisper:
Woops I gotta stop thinking out loud
That's the way.. All class... CODS! :tongue2: IN!
Quote from: peterscotts on March 20, 2013, 01:01:14 AM
That's the way.. All class... CODS! :tongue2: IN!
:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Sledge has corrected me before... I humbled myself, and appreciated the check... edited my post and noted the change to accomodate the correction...
He has an eye for details that get overlooked, and is technical with his replies and information... this forum needs the balance he mentions above. Just know that corrections come across in a personal direction on their own, and that additional wording puts those who are corrected on the defence. On the other hand, a delicately worded correction (so as to not offend anyone) would be more likely to get overlooked and would carry less weight... it can be a double-edge sword and no one has the time to mess with wording everything just right so that both sides cut straight... So try not make it personal, and accept other angles. Check the validity yourself, and add to the topic without making things personal.
Folks should be able to come to the GS500 forum to get well informed answers and information regarding GS500s. There is enough misinformation out there already, and this site doesn't need to add to it. With that, it still happens.. and I don't see any problem with corrections unless they are attacks.. it devalues the site albeit, its fun watch...
Though, it is funny that many, if not a majority, of Sledge's posts of late get returned with much rebuttal... accept that as minimal the concern may be to you, that to someone who does not know anything about a topic other than replies to a post on a forum, that it probably would be a major concern to them that would get overlooked... and some situations that overlooked bit of info could be dangerous... it sounds incredibly naive, but it happens...
Everyone has a role who participates... you create your own, in fact... and your role you created will change over time
:cheers:
- Bboy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_Identification_Number
If the VIN starts with...
VS-VW Spain
JA-J0 Japan
Quote from: BockinBboy on March 20, 2013, 07:42:15 AM
Sledge has corrected me before... I humbled myself, and appreciated the check... edited my post and noted the change to accomodate the correction...
He has an eye for details that get overlooked, and is technical with his replies and information... this forum needs the balance he mentions above. Just know that corrections come across in a personal direction on their own, and that additional wording puts those who are corrected on the defence. On the other hand, a delicately worded correction (so as to not offend anyone) would be more likely to get overlooked and would carry less weight... it can be a double-edge sword and no one has the time to mess with wording everything just right so that both sides cut straight... So try not make it personal, and accept other angles. Check the validity yourself, and add to the topic without making things personal.
Folks should be able to come to the GS500 forum to get well informed answers and information regarding GS500s. There is enough misinformation out there already, and this site doesn't need to add to it. With that, it still happens.. and I don't see any problem with corrections unless they are attacks.. it devalues the site albeit, its fun watch...
Though, it is funny that many, if not a majority, of Sledge's posts of late get returned with much rebuttal... accept that as minimal the concern may be to you, that to someone who does not know anything about a topic other than replies to a post on a forum, that it probably would be a major concern to them that would get overlooked... and some situations that overlooked bit of info could be dangerous... it sounds incredibly naive, but it happens...
Everyone has a role who participates... you create your own, in fact... and your role you created will change over time
:cheers:
- Bboy
Oh for chrissake....dont come here sprouting common sense. :icon_razz:
We wont stand for it around here :icon_rolleyes:
No no BBoy, we are all to take things personally and raise bloody hell.
I, for one, am not afraid to get pissed and start trouble. It's in my blood.
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nuthin like a virtual WWF Hoedown in MoTown biffo/argy bargy to get things interesting and moving!! .. moving right along to we AUssies fav area... TF!!! ...
we can rebuild it!! .. we have technology!! :flipoff:
And here - in the Land of Oz and Prime Ministerial frolics - comes the Chinese siht big time. Yup, Suzi Oz is bringing you the 250 Inazuma at $4,990 drive woops! ride-away. Meanwhile the boys and girls at the Spanish factory are farewelled with a few euros, a clock for the mantlepiece, and off they go into a wonderful Iberian industrial future. Still, so long as the Beijing boys are looked after............
the 5 gs' ive had all were japanese
It don't get any better for the Spaniard's. Derbi motorcycles in Spain - owned by Piaggio - closed its factory this week after 90 years of production. About 100 workers on the street. Cold winds blowing through the Euro Zone this month indeed.
Quote from: noworries on March 22, 2013, 07:36:07 PM
It don't get any better for the Spaniard's. Derbi motorcycles in Spain - owned by Piaggio - closed its factory this week after 90 years of production. About 100 workers on the street. Cold winds blowing through the Euro Zone this month indeed.
Looking like they will be built in China from now on.