Well the other day my GS had a strange noise coming from the engine
Since then I've discovered it was low on oil anyways sorted that with fresh oil and filter, the bikes back to how it was runs and rides fine, starts on the button however the small tapping noise has come back, I've sort of located it to the top left of the engine. I've got some suspicions its the left small end bearing
Any advice or what to do, I'm thinking a top end rebuild ?????
ride til she blows and then replace the motor. Could be tomorrow could be 40k miles down the road.
I guess,
There's not many engines about though
There seems to be more 2001 onwards engines around what's the actual difference between the old and the new motor
oil cooler
Is that the only difference apart from that are they the same
Quote from: joshr08 on April 26, 2013, 04:13:19 PM
oil cooler
Thats misinformation
The only difference between the newer E engines and the older E engines is the Tacho connection afaik.
Only the F's have the oil cooler
Quote from: codajastal on April 26, 2013, 04:17:02 PM
Quote from: joshr08 on April 26, 2013, 04:13:19 PM
oil cooler
Thats misinformation
The only difference between the newer E engines and the older E engines is the Tacho connection afaik.
Only the F's have the oil cooler
No its not I didn't say that was the only difference.
I just stated that was a difference between them.
Quote from: joshr08 on April 26, 2013, 04:20:50 PM
Quote from: codajastal on April 26, 2013, 04:17:02 PM
Quote from: joshr08 on April 26, 2013, 04:13:19 PM
oil cooler
Thats misinformation
The only difference between the newer E engines and the older E engines is the Tacho connection afaik.
Only the F's have the oil cooler
No its not I didn't say that was the only difference.
I just stated that was a difference between them.
Again ONLY THE F MODEL HAS OIL COOLER AND NOT THE E MODEL So there is NO OIL COOLER ON THE NEWER E MODELS
so saying the oil cooler is the only difference is misinformation when there is NO OIL COOLER
Quote from: codajastal on April 26, 2013, 04:23:29 PM
Quote from: joshr08 on April 26, 2013, 04:20:50 PM
Quote from: codajastal on April 26, 2013, 04:17:02 PM
Quote from: joshr08 on April 26, 2013, 04:13:19 PM
oil cooler
Thats misinformation
The only difference between the newer E engines and the older E engines is the Tacho connection afaik.
Only the F's have the oil cooler
No its not I didn't say that was the only difference.
I just stated that was a difference between them.
Again ONLY THE F MODEL HAS OIL COOLER AND NOT THE E MODEL So there is NO OIL COOLER ON THE NEWER E MODELS
so saying the oil cooler is the only difference is misinformation when there is NO OIL COOLER
AGAIN I WILL SAY I NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT IT BEING THE ONLY DIFFERENCE OR ABOUT THE NEWER E OVER THE OLDER E. HE NEVER STATED WHAT YR OR MODEL HE IS DRIVING
Read again. HE ASKED THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OLDER AND NEWER ENGINE AND YOU SAID OIL COOLER WTF?
THERE IS NO FUCKEN OIL COOLER
2008 GS500. WHERE IS THE FUCKEN OIL COOLER?
(http://binatani.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/suzuki-gs500e-wiringschematic-diagram-electric.jpg)
newest GS500 is an F so that would be having an oil cooler. we don't have a new E in the us.
He is not in the US.
We still get 2013 model E's WITHOUT oil cooler here as he may as well?
Well he didn't state he wasn't from the US so my info is not misinfo for the US. I guess when people want help they need to tell everyone where they are from. I should have to ask the questions to help someone fix there bike. :thumb:
Its in his profile which is the first place I looked so that I would not give him the wrong information for his country.
I thought everyone did this?
Like I said in my country you can still buy the E model new here.
All is forgiven anyway move on.
Joshr08 My opinion is if you have a GS you should know that there's 2 models
My info will be limited because I have an old GS and have no knowledge of the newer models
But I do know there is 2 models :D
Good Lord people. No need to flame and get all emotional.
This site will tell you the answer: http://wiki.gstwins.com/index.php?n=Main.YearChanges
I don't look at profiles. Im not asking for the help.
Quote from: jestercinti on April 26, 2013, 04:41:04 PM
Good Lord people. No need to flame and get all emotional.
This site will tell you the answer: http://wiki.gstwins.com/index.php?n=Main.YearChanges
You're no fun Jester, Back in yer box.
FYI you can put a newer E engine into your E or F model GS without too much issue
Cheers jester and codajastal so basically the engine is the exact same just the carb that differs but that doesn't exact ally matter
Listen here I know there are 2 models an E and a F Im in the US those are our models WE don't have a NEW E here :flipoff: And for that matter you don't know how to keep your oil filled on an oil cooled motor don't act all smart now.
I'm not acting smart buddy I'm asking for advice I do a lot of motorway miles which uses oil a lot more than small town commuting I haven't had the bike long either I'm used to 2 stroke 125s that's where my knowlage is 4 strokes are a new thing to me, everybody has a different learning curve which I think you should respect rather than taking the piss out off
As I said before the tachometer may be different than yours for the newer one as they went electronic so you would possibly need to change that at the same time
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Fair doos cheers buddy
Cods, I am fun. Funny looking that is...
**climbing back into my box**
The GS500 is like a simple 4-stroke lawn mower. Check oil often, and change no less than once a season. You'll be A-OK if you do that. My lawn mower on the other hand, you add oil to the gas. Don't do that in our GS. It will run like crap.
Milk in the handlebars on the other hand...
Eh Cods.... This Jester here.... He starting to sound almost .... Strine!! ... Hmmm... :laugh:
Quote from: codajastal on April 26, 2013, 04:38:10 PM
Its in his profile which is the first place I looked so that I would not give him the wrong information for his country.
I thought everyone did this?
Like I said in my country you can still buy the E model new here.
All is forgiven anyway move on.
I'm with you, for the record. This is an international message board and it's fair to assume that other posters are not from the same country as yourself.
And there is no oil cooler on old naked GS or new naked GS. Only the faired model.
Have a look here for a break down of changes over the years:
http://wiki.gstwins.com/index.php?n=Main.YearChanges
And the bottom end on the F bikes with coolers is different for the oil flow than that of the E w/o the cooler
Quote from: joshr08 on April 26, 2013, 03:51:50 PM
ride til she blows and then replace the motor. Could be tomorrow could be 40k miles down the road.
This is terrible advise. When my motor went, the resulting crash took my arm out of the socket. I could have bought 2 engines for the price of my deductibles.
How low was the oil? And how are you checking your level?
PROPER WAY TO CHECK THE OIL. (thanks to ben2go)
Place bike on center stand on level ground.
Warm engine.
Wait 5 minutes.
Remove dip stick and wipe clean with a lint free cloth.
Set the dip stick in the hole.DO NOT SCREW THE DIP STICK IN!!!
Remove the dip stick for an accurate oil level check.
Some people will say it shouldn't be done on the centre stand but I see no difference on or off in my experience.
Yeah I was doing it like your explaining and it wasn't even touching the bottom off the dip stick
Is the noise constant and loud?
No only around 4000 rpm any higher it goes away and any lower it goes away
vibration noise? cam chain noise?
This thread went great with my morning coffee i must say :angel:
Quote from: Joehanson70 on April 27, 2013, 01:40:58 AM
No only around 4000 rpm any higher it goes away and any lower it goes away
look for a loose bolt/screw/something. vibrations/resonance at a particular rpm is usually a body piece or loose fastener.
also, you're aware the gs will make a tapping sound at idle, from the upper left because of cam float, right ?
just making certain.
the two people making jackasses of themselves need to do it via pm. the main forum is for concrete information, not mud slinging or panty pulling.
Quote from: ohgood on April 27, 2013, 07:06:06 AM
Quote from: Joehanson70 on April 27, 2013, 01:40:58 AM
No only around 4000 rpm any higher it goes away and any lower it goes away
look for a loose bolt/screw/something. vibrations/resonance at a particular rpm is usually a body piece or loose fastener.
also, you're aware the gs will make a tapping sound at idle, from the upper left because of cam float, right ?
just making certain.
Sorry I didn't get back to this thread but ohgood covered what I was thinking. :thumb:
Quote from: ohgood on April 27, 2013, 07:06:06 AM
the two people making jackasses of themselves need to do it via pm. the main forum is for concrete information, not mud slinging or panty pulling.
Well if you bothered to read the thread properly you would have seen I was trying to inform the person of the correct information.
Also your comment is neither necessary nor helpful now is it?
Quote from: codajastal on April 29, 2013, 12:56:06 AM
Quote from: ohgood on April 27, 2013, 07:06:06 AM
the two people making jackasses of themselves need to do it via pm. the main forum is for concrete information, not mud slinging or panty pulling.
Well if you bothered to read the thread properly you would have seen I was trying to inform the person of the correct information.
Also your comment is neither necessary nor helpful now is it?
actually my comment was both. the forum is for information and help, which -I- did.
if you want to Buddha Loves You/moan with me, or anyone, do it via pm.
keep the forum clean.
So after all of the above, OP, have you come any closer to getting this problem solved?
No haven't bothered I need to get it done really as it has an occasional illness and runs bad, and the tapping noise gets a little worse, so its not getting any better I don't know whether to find another engine or repair this one