So, this might be a slow build. so I apologize upfront for the slow updates. MOST of the slowness will come from lack of funds for the project.
the base of this project is of course a GS500. I'm trying to give it a scrambler inspired look with a twist! I'm currently using the stock tank for this project and chopping up the rear end. I'm rebuilding a blown engine. [currently on the lookout for a whole new-top end.] I have valves, valve buckets, valve springs, engine gaskets, cams, camboots, and Installed is used piston heads, stock of course, with new piston rings.. Low end I have not cracked open, but I'm going to assume for now that everything is OKAY down there for now, gonna pull off the side covers when ever it gets time to remove the old oil [that's been in there for years, without of being ran.. :icon_eek:] and replace those gaskets, and clean out all the old oil, and what ever form of gunk it has turned into...
I still got to get all need cables, a pair of handle bars with 1" risers, I may go 2" though, the new seat design is flatter/lower then the stock seat.
but for now, I've been working on the rear-end because that's where most of the cosmetic work is going to be done, [aside from painting] right now. I'm re-locating the seat latch to fit flush with the frame, as the new fully custom seat is going to basically sit right on top of the subframe [frame? :dunno_black:]
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the rear tail hugger will be hand formed from metal, so will any "covers" or "accents" for the rest of the bike. Hopefully getting that started sometime this next Friday or so.
I still have to buy, cut, shape, glue, shape some more. the seat foam. though the base plate is finished, other then needing to be clear coated so it doesn't rot. even though I used high quality plywood, I want super protection!
Oh and my goal for this project is nothing but basic hand tools... :woohoo: Not even the drill press! the only electric tools I plan on using is a Sewing machine, hand drill, dremel, grinder [to cut up the frame mostly] The rest from there are hammers and wrenches! an a little loctite.... ;)
I'm keen to see how you go, I have a thing for scramblers... did this with my 450 :thumb:
Quote from: peteGS on November 08, 2014, 02:23:37 PM
I'm keen to see how you go, I have a thing for scramblers... did this with my 450 :thumb:
Thanks a lot! can't wait to share. and get it running on some dirt!
currently my issue is, handle bar finding! I want a little elbow bending! problem is, all the cool handlebars I have found so far, the clamp area seems to be kinda iffy. some have like a 4.4" center. does that mean flat area on the bars? not much of a description. and I wanna make sure I get this right...
GS500F -
years
2002-2010 Bar Diameter
7/8" Height
3-1/2" Width
27-1/2"Pullback
7-1/2"Center
6" Clamp Area
3" x 4-3/4"also from what's posted. does anyone who's reading think these would work? with 1" risers POSSIBLY 2" risers even.
http://www.dimecitycycles.com/7-8-inch-satin-black-daytona-flat-tracker-handlebars.html (http://www.dimecitycycles.com/7-8-inch-satin-black-daytona-flat-tracker-handlebars.html)
Good luck on the build. I have three GS' currently. One I want to build a cafe , the other a street tracker and then a scrambler. As for those handlebars they look like stock GS bars.
I just put some medium rise motorcross 'bars on mine and they're pretty much perfect for me...
If I was to do it again I'd look for some Renthals or something as these are a bit light weight though.
Quote from: peteGS on November 11, 2014, 01:46:55 PM
I just put some medium rise motorcross 'bars on mine and they're pretty much perfect for me...
If I was to do it again I'd look for some Renthals or something as these are a bit light weight though.
I've looked at a few of those. if you don't mind, how tall are you?
I'm about 6 foot...
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Walker, I'd worry about the bars until later. Only because handle bars are a "cheap" part of a bike build, and can always be sold off if you get them wrong the first time. Besides, if your bars are too tall / far back you'll need longer cables which add to the bottom line cost wise anyway.
That being said, I'm always up for a mutli purpose bike. So carry on with the project!
Quote from: peteGS on November 11, 2014, 04:08:09 PM
I'm about 6 foot...
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thanks, that helps a bit.
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there hasn't been any real progress on the bike, other then I've been chatting with a fellow on here about obtaining his topend. I think that's all I need, [other then tires] valve clearance should be okay. I connected a battery to the bike yesterday, disconnected the electric starter motor wires though.. just encase, don't want the bike going mad with half the engine apart. and the timing chain all jumbled up on top of itself in the engine.. :icon_eek: and I'm getting power to all the important parts. still need to get a tail-light that's effective easy to go with ebay knock offs, but they just aren't bright enough to be on the road. same goes for the blinkers.
so on my current to-do list.
sell this stupid SV650, that needs about $500 in finishing work to make it road worthy again.. that I just don't wanna throw the money into, because I particularly dislike THIS sv650, the engine is fun. the way the bike is built and sits is not fun. nothing like the gs500 I like it WAY more, even if its a glorified lawn mower engine. I embrace my riding lawn mower, even show it off a bit. :icon_mrgreen:
Rebuild the top end of the gs500, put the new valves, do valve clearance all that good jazz, torque everything down properly, and source any top end engine bolts that have been lost in time. I have all my gaskets together, but I have a feeling i've misplaced some bolts...
once that's done, reattach the stock headers/pipes and give the carbs a good final cleaning.
Oh and change all the side case gaskets, and clean out all the old oil that's sludged up by now ...
replace the oil, and oil filter. and get a new air-filter as well, just cause.
then the bike SHOULD START AND RUN! :bowdown:
Oh and I had this nifty idea, something I remembered about my old GS that I HATED. The air/fuel mixture screws on the carbs, the ones I have are a bit nicked up on the heads because who ever drilled the caps out, went a LITTLE too far. so I figured, well if I'm going to maybe get new ones anyway, lets have a little side project to make tuning the bike a little easier, I was inspired by my much hated SV650's idle adjustment screw.. why couldn't I just figure out a way to do the same? to attach two cables to each one, route them to one spot make a bracket for them, and those cables are
soldered with silver solder, to the top of brass adjustment screws and basically, to adjust all you had to do was turn these knobs, that are easily adjustable, but discretely hidden [so no passer by's or FRIENDS mess with them!] basically the same concept the sv650's idle adjustment cable works.
now, some might say, "but once your carbs are tuned and balanced you wouldn't really need these" not exactly true.. I live in Florida, but I do tend to travel/adventure out a lot. so, I do plan on traveling a bit on the bike, and I HEAR from others who travel on bikes with carbs, is they can sometimes start running lean, the higher up you go, and florida our tallest mountain is an ant-hill, I sit about 100 feet above sea level. so these little adjustment screws would be PERFECT for that situation! no tools/removing the carbs needed. just pull on over, give it a 1/4 of a turn, and see how it runs from there.
Quote from: Big Rich on November 11, 2014, 10:28:37 PM
Walker, I'd worry about the bars until later. Only because handle bars are a "cheap" part of a bike build, and can always be sold off if you get them wrong the first time. Besides, if your bars are too tall / far back you'll need longer cables which add to the bottom line cost wise anyway.
That being said, I'm always up for a mutli purpose bike. So carry on with the project!
the reason for the bars being pushed now, is I lent someone the bars that came on the bike [not stock ones] and said "if you break them you buy them" well I didn't know what kind of bars they where, so he agreed to it, well he low sided his bike, and bent them, so he has offered to replace them. thing is, he keeps talking about going back to Texas, and I don't want him to skip town before he buys me new bars.. not that he's sketchy, but people tend to "forget"
*sigh* In order for me to finish this project, I'm depending on selling my low-sided 02 SV650. only asking $1,000.. needs a new radiator. [$150] and the handlebar instruments [throttle tube/grip, kill switch, master cylinder for the front brakes] cosmetically it looks like crap.. I can see how someone would be put off by it, but it DOES RUN once it has a radiator on it.. but I just want to deal with this GS. not the damn SV.. :cry:
edit; I live in central Florida, I CAN DELIVER the bike anywhere within a reasonable distance. just encase anyone is interested... :kiss3:
edit2; I just checked, I'm selling it below the price of what I could possibly get parting it out... I REALLY want this thing gone.
Looks like a cool idea for a build!
I feel your pain on selling the wrecked SV. I just did the same 2 months ago lol. Ended up getting $500 for it, bent forks, lower triple, crushed gauges, broken water pump and a nice dent in the tank from meeting a Lexus... Still ran also! People around here just don't really want to buy them wrecked :(
I'm in Sarasota area :thumb:
Quote from: mustangGT90210 on November 25, 2014, 07:54:52 AM
Looks like a cool idea for a build!
I feel your pain on selling the wrecked SV. I just did the same 2 months ago lol. Ended up getting $500 for it, bent forks, lower triple, crushed gauges, broken water pump and a nice dent in the tank from meeting a Lexus... Still ran also! People around here just don't really want to buy them wrecked :(
I'm in Sarasota area :thumb:
Forks aren't bent, the subframe is still stock, the gas tank just has a massive dent in it, from the stupid clip-ons [did I mention I hate clipons?] the frame is still straight. the brake calipers are rebuilt, MOSFET RR installed, Barnett clutch plates installed. it was straight piped, so its jetted for it. a few other little things here and there. over all its Not totaled, plus my title is still clean/not written off.. so I really don't want to go below $1,000. I payed $1,500 for it, in worse condition than it is now! the way I see it, its a steal! if the SV650 rode and handled like a GS500 with suspension upgrades, I would be fixing it instead of this GS project, but sadly I hate the way it rides and handles, and I've ridden 2 First Gens, and one 2nd gen.
Maybe when I get this GS500 project done, I could ride out to Sarasota. its about an hour ride maybe a little longer - the GS500 is slow after all... :police:
Well, thanks to andy here on the forums, I should be getting the new head for my bike here soon.. can't wait until I get to play around with valve clearance again! .. :cookoo:
and I'm hoping to go get some foam and fabric and matching thread for the seat tomorrow. oh and spray glue..
got my head today! again, thanks andy!
so far so good, there is a valve bucket that doesn't rotate freely like it should because it looks like someone tried to grab it with pillars. :cookoo:
the valve seats are still in almost perfect condition! so that's good. right as I was wrapping up, and getting ready for tomorrows adventure of finishing cleaning up everything. as I was doing it, decided to pull out the pins that line up the head and cylinder body.. and of course, one of this pins was freaking stuck in there! took a hammer and vice grips to get it out.. luckily I have the pins from the original head. and it doesn't look like the hole is damaged/warped.
The little pins that are at the bottom that fit into the cylinder body helps keep things lined up.. one was REALLY in there, and I had to get it out to make a few passes on the face. getting it out involved vice grips and a hammer.. knacked up the face a few times, I tried to be super careful.
also for anyone reading this, I have a few "dents" into the face of the head now from the hammer - even though I was being super careful, it slipped downward a few times, luckily they are on the outer edges [around the pin] but the dents aren't gonna come completely out when I slightly face it it off. so, basically with the gasket [some sort of metal with a black coating over top.] what would be a good RTV to use on it? clearly that area sees lots of heat. or will I not need it?
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Had seen a few years ago, someone nearby put a gs engine into a quad.
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on December 22, 2014, 03:59:48 PM
Had seen a few years ago, someone nearby put a gs engine into a quad.
I've put a 94 GS engine into a vintage 74 shifter kart frame.. with the right gearing. man, does the GS engine seem fast! wish I still had the video.. but it died with my harddrive.
edit; if you're looking for an engine to put into a gokart, a gs500 engine is somewhat cheap. but it would be better/faster/lighter to go with a two stroke... lol
Years ago when I was searching my surrounding areas for GR650's, I found an ad on Craigslist that was interesting. It was a GR650 engine in one of those off-road go kart / sand buggy things. The seller mentioned a few times in the ad that it was VERY fast, and pretty dangerous if you weren't careful.
I'm very curious how your finished scrambler handles.
The reason this comes to mind is that i'm very much a dirt bike guy who happens to have a road bike,so i have no fear of taking my GS500 -a stock road version- on gravel roads.
I've noticed a curious handling trait on gravel- that is the front and rear wheels tend to slide equally on loose stuff.
I'm guessing a set of proper dual purpose tires would change it's handling,but i'm curious how much.
Quote from: Ron888 on December 23, 2014, 10:45:41 PM
I'm very curious how your finished scrambler handles.
The reason this comes to mind is that i'm very much a dirt bike guy who happens to have a road bike,so i have no fear of taking my GS500 -a stock road version- on gravel roads.
I've noticed a curious handling trait on gravel- that is the front and rear wheels tend to slide equally on loose stuff.
I'm guessing a set of proper dual purpose tires would change it's handling,but i'm curious how much.
sadly the largest gravel roads we have around here, are pinecones. :thumb:
but when everything is up and running ill do a first "ride" review for sure.
right now I'm having trouble deciding how to re-route the exhaust. without it cooking the insides of my legs, but also getting it out from under the bike.. I get about an extra 2 1/2 inches of bottom clearance without the exhaust manifold there, would also make it easier to install a skid plate.
I also don't wanna create hot-spots near the engine because of the exhaust running to close.. sometimes things like this make me wanna just
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I have no issues with the pipe going round the left of the bike under my ankle, but I tend to ride with my toes on the pegs.
I only notice it on hot days when sitting in traffic with my foot on the ground.
Two things that will help... an effective heat shield and ceramic coating.
Mine is ceramic coated... and that's water after a bath in the first photo... and I also now run Avon RoadRiders rather than the dual sports but I had a Pirelli Scorpion Trail up front and Pirelli Scorpion MT90A/T on the rear.
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/starpoint73/GS450/Finished/IMG_5379_zps24e49dfa.jpg) (http://s594.photobucket.com/user/starpoint73/media/GS450/Finished/IMG_5379_zps24e49dfa.jpg.html)
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Was wanting a closeup of th at one. Thank you :thumb: :woohoo:
I wonder if a pipe like that would fit onto a gs500 for a cafe race or fighter build
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on December 24, 2014, 03:50:31 PM
I wonder if a pipe like that would fit onto a gs500 for a cafe race or fighter build
im looking to do something LIKE this for my scrambler build... a gs500... :icon_mrgreen: :flipoff: :cool:
I just don't know the best way to route the pipes, without creating hot spots over the engine. and of course, something that looks cool. :D
also, I agree, if I run it up the side some sort of heat-shield would be a must! especially in Florida!
Pete, I forgot about your rear luggage rack. I need to make a new one for my S, I may have to rip off.....I mean draw inspiration from yours.
Walker, I don't have a 500 so it might not be much help. But be sure to post plenty of ideas when you get to your exhaust. I'm sure Pete / myself / others might have some good ideas when it comes to the routing of it.
Yama, glad I could be of service :icon_mrgreen: and this is a custom one off, so you could definitely get one made to suit a 500. The guy that did this had a jig for the 450 which gets the exhaust port angles and spacing right, then he did the rest to suit what I wanted.
Rich, that rack is now sitting on the bench after I got my hands on the made-of-unobtanium genuine optional sports rack on there :icon_mrgreen: but I wouldn't suggest shipping that one to you as it's a little crooked... haha
J_Walker... I would highly recommend the ceramic coating for heat or if you can't do that exhaust wrap will achieve the same purpose. The reason I didn't do that was simply that as a daily rider, I didn't want it soaking up water and rusting the pipe. I initially wanted the exhaust down the right side but my mock up showed me it would interfere with the dip stick so I moved it to the left.
Careful routing will mean no hot spots and a mock up is good for working that out. The ceramic coating helps with that as would exhaust wrap, and I don't have any issues with it evaporating the fuel from the carb float bowl or anything either.
Save your paper towel and toilet roll cardboard tubes up and do this:
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/starpoint73/GS450/Exhaust/IMG_2209.jpg) (http://s594.photobucket.com/user/starpoint73/media/GS450/Exhaust/IMG_2209.jpg.html)
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/starpoint73/GS450/Exhaust/IMG_2207.jpg) (http://s594.photobucket.com/user/starpoint73/media/GS450/Exhaust/IMG_2207.jpg.html)
There's a heap more photos in here:
http://s594.photobucket.com/user/starpoint73/library/GS450/Exhaust?sort=3&page=1
THIS. Is artistry. The bike, the pipe. All of it. :D
Thanks Yama! She's not so pristine these days but still going strong except for the carbs :thumb:
Quote from: peteGS on December 26, 2014, 01:02:19 PM
Thanks Yama! She's not so pristine these days but still going strong except for the carbs :thumb:
speaking of carbs.. I don't have access to a media blaster.. and im not about to pay 50 bucks to use one...
so, i've been trying to polish these carbs, and I swear they are driving me insane. they just aren't finishing up nicely. some areas are really shinny, while others have weird dull spots, almost like they're stained.. I tried a polishing liquid today, and returned it - because it did not work, my steel wool method has been the best, but I Can't get these weird stain looking spots out... at this rate, I'm about to paint them. lol
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about as shiny as im willing to get them with just steel wool. most of the hard work comes from the little tight spaces.
who knows.. I may not even keep the "shiny" and paint over it.. its good to get the outside oxides cleaned up anyway, also passes the hours waiting for parts and such.. lol
I must say i've never ever found any alloy polishing method that works to my satisfaction.In fact i'm considering building my own anodizing kit so i can make ally look perfectly new and clean without the gloss
Look into vapor blasting. It used to be unheard of (at least here in the US) but is becoming much more popular. It is a type of bead / shot blasting, but has a polishing effect on aluminum.
I'm with Rich, any sort of hand polishing just isn't going to cut it on a set of carbs I don't think. Fuel and grunge all over them in tight little nooks and crannies makes for a nightmare.
I just dipped mine in carb cleaner and called them good :thumb:
Quote from: peteGS on December 27, 2014, 03:04:21 PM
I'm with Rich, any sort of hand polishing just isn't going to cut it on a set of carbs I don't think. Fuel and grunge all over them in tight little nooks and crannies makes for a nightmare.
I just dipped mine in carb cleaner and called them good :thumb:
I think I'm just gonna get all the gunk and whatnot off, and paint them. this polishing thing is a PITA and the little steel wool pieces are getting in places they aren't suppose to be...
now to choose a color! since its suppose to be a scrambler. kinda wanna go with a camo style palette with the bike over all. So I'm thinking about maybe painting the carbs either a tan or dark green color.
Be forewarned : carbs need special attention if you're going to paint them because of all the gasoline they deal with. Stripping them completely of all rubber, boiling them in water to remove any oil / gas residue, taping off all parts that can't be painted, etc.
Not to be negative nelly, just want to give you a heads up.
Quote from: Big Rich on December 27, 2014, 07:09:02 PM
Be forewarned : carbs need special attention if you're going to paint them because of all the gasoline they deal with. Stripping them completely of all rubber, boiling them in water to remove any oil / gas residue, taping off all parts that can't be painted, etc.
Not to be negative nelly, just want to give you a heads up.
yeah I was gonna hit it with some quality paint. stuff that's rated for Nitro fuel [the stuff they use in RC related gas engines]
its coming along... the big work of course is the engine work. :flipoff: I gotta work on the seat. of course. but the pan is cut out and ready. just gotta foam and fabric.
oh and guess the mud guard.. :D
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Mate, regarding those 'strange' dull areas when you polish the carbs, I reckon there's a good chance that it is porous castings causing this.
You polish away, and whilst some areas come up beautifully shiny, as you polish, you abrade down into areas of the casting that have zillions of tiny air pockets within the alloy.
Quote from: Joolstacho on January 01, 2015, 08:18:27 PM
Mate, regarding those 'strange' dull areas when you polish the carbs, I reckon there's a good chance that it is porous castings causing this.
You polish away, and whilst some areas come up beautifully shiny, as you polish, you abrade down into areas of the casting that have zillions of tiny air pockets within the alloy.
yeah, I'm just gonna clean them, and paint em. no point in polishing as they aren't really "showing" but they show enough that anyone taking a closer look, might see them up close. so a quick paint job should just pretty em up.
today, while trying to install the engine into the frame, I figured it was easier to get it in the same way it came out..
upon removing the stud bolts, I dropped a copper washer down into the engine.. :technical:
upon that, I opened up the oil pan - forgetting I never drained the oil. :technical: :mad:
and upon that, the copper washer was no where to be found in the oil pan. :mad: :mad: :technical: :technical: :technical:
I just spent the last 2 hours cleaning the mass of oil that went EVERYWHERE out of the garage. my half mangled engine sits on a palette, ready to be taken down further. :bs: :mad: :icon_rolleyes:
Many words where spoken today, I think this post has been the nicest thing I've said all day. and my neighbors probably think I'm clinically insane. screaming and cursing at a half mangled engine.
Awwww man I feel that pain!!!! Some days you're just better off staying in bed... :2guns:
I'm sure you'll recover nicely though! :thumb:
Don't worry, it sure sucks but it's nothing that cannot be cleaned or made right. I was also cursing and getting furious over such things but after I chopped my finger I look differently on those things. :) Maybe it's for good? What if you had continued with putting the engine and that washer didn't fall into it, it would have fallen and crushed your feet? :D :D Always think positively!
Quote from: DevilDesire on January 05, 2015, 01:48:45 PM
Don't worry, it sure sucks but it's nothing that cannot be cleaned or made right. I was also cursing and getting furious over such things but after I chopped my finger I look differently on those things. :) Maybe it's for good? What if you had continued with putting the engine and that washer didn't fall into it, it would have fallen and crushed your feet? :D :D Always think positively!
Quote from: peteGS on January 05, 2015, 01:35:41 PM
Awwww man I feel that pain!!!! Some days you're just better off staying in bed... :2guns:
I'm sure you'll recover nicely though! :thumb:
edit; quick note, It seems to me, without any further research into the matter. that the GS500's clutch plates, are exactly the same as my 02 SV650s plates. - I might have to remove my Barnett plates, and springs from the 650 - since its just sitting there radiator less... hehe
aww thanks guys. as of earlier today. the engine is in the frame.
also these OEM bolts that suzuki uses. love to stretch and snap don't they?! I WAS EVEN USING MY TORQUE WRENCH. my lowest I can go with it, is 7 FT.LBs.
I follow a strange rule of thumb when it comes to torquing down bolts that I don't know what they should be.. for ever 1mm = 1 ft.lb + thread pitch. so a 8mm bolt, with a 1.00 thread pitch. would be 9ft.lbs - and because suzuki's cheapo bolts, I normally drop it by 2ft.lbs. because they love to stretch and snap.
so my chase side [the side in the picture] has all new bolts.. non-oem stainless ones. :woohoo:
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Yes the stock bolts aren't all that crash hot... I have broken a few along the way myself!
no major progress to report on. I'm actually about to go outside and beat on the rear-sets to see if I can get them straightened up.. luckly their steel...
yup it works! lol
spent 5 hours yesterday working on this seat. and it still came out kind of crappy. but I don't wanna spend more money for the vinyl and foam, and the sewing machine foot I should of bought... lol
lots of lessons learned, maybe when the funds allow it, ill build something better.
but its not too bad for my first time ever doing anything like this...
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I can't find handlebars!! :technical: :technical: :technical:
the ones that pull the bars back 2-3 inches, only have like 4" clamp areas. the GS is 4 3/4". :2guns:
well I hammered out some steel from the scarp pile to create this cover. ill finish smoothing it a bit when the adhesive is dry. I was gonna bondo it smooth, but im not sure how hot it gets.. ill have to run it and take its temperature but it doesn't look to terribly bad. fits with the scrappy look im going for with the bike.
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Good stuff mate, that will work.
Temperature wise I find I don't burn myself on that cover, certainly gets too hot to hold in your hand for any length of time but you can get the screws out of the ignition cover and take it off when she's up to temperature without blisters.
Quote from: peteGS on January 14, 2015, 01:11:28 PM
Good stuff mate, that will work.
Temperature wise I find I don't burn myself on that cover, certainly gets too hot to hold in your hand for any length of time but you can get the screws out of the ignition cover and take it off when she's up to temperature without blisters.
its rated for like 400 degrees. I think... got the bike started for a second today, will post the video sometime tomorrow.. started up super easy, easier then I remember a GS ever starting up.. makes me kinda of thing the petcock needs to be rebuilt on this one. as the fuel was directly going into the carbs. ill get around to that sometime later.
Starting is always a good thing :thumb:
Glad to hear you're making progress!
since I'm doing the bike in matte camo like colors.. I've been looking for a clear coat that's gas resistant.. and since its green and browns. and I've been doing some studying.. and I'm going with spar urethane..... we'll see, I'm doing a test piece. once everything cures, i'll drop some 91 oct. gasoline on it. [even though the gs doesn't use 91] it better to use something a little stronger. The RC guys says its almost as good as the 2k clears, the only difference is, it has a slight yellow tint. but its waterproof/UV rated/it drys hard after it cures [1 week to 2 weeks] and once it cures, it handles well. and since I'm rushing my test piece, [24 hours before I will fuel test it, plus my colorcoat never got to actually cure] so if everything holds up, i'll be super impressed!
like I said, I've been warned about the yellowing, and that would be the only down side if you where to do light color pieces. but if you stick with dark colors, it seems you should be okay. here's a picture, its still tacky, but it clearly is orange peeling a bit, I laid it on kinda thick by accident, wasn't use to its spray pattern.
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Good luck with the clear! I did mine all in 2K and for my first ever spray paint job I'm pretty happy with it. Nowhere near perfect but good for the 10 foot view and Internet photos haha
Hopefully that clear will hold up for you...
Nice vid too, sounds just like a GS :thumb:
well I haven't much updates.. last two days been helping a friend remodel? Rebuild? not sure what to call it.. this house. probably the most dodgy house I've EVER worked on. [you can step through parts of the FLOORS] but it should be a decent chunk of change into my pocket at the end.. who ever decided to work on it last, instead of doing things right, their DIY made things more horrible! I've seen trailers in better shape!
picture related at the bottom. what kind of workmen ship is this?! and yes that's exposed electrical. none of the "aftermarket" sheetrock is properly taped and mudded. its just butt jointed, and painted over... :mad:
also there's cedar studs and paneling in part of the house, and where there's "aftermarket" sheet rock hung, there's strips of moldy plywood under it.. because from what I could tell, the walls were originally plaster.
the roofs also saggy, and nothing is straight... but he wants the bathroom finished.. so I'm doing my best to make a safe and proper bathroom. so that's all I gotta worry about, even though I keep telling him that this house is a moldy death trap waiting to get knocked over by the first gust of wind.. some people really don't care???
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Wow... that's crazy! I hope he got it cheap coz it's gonna cost a bundle to fix!
my jobs finished as of yesterday.
SS brake lines, and new rear rotor and pads. HERE I COME!
well I have the clear on the tank finally, the first coat.. this stuff takes FOREVER to dry. it seems to dry faster in colder weather, assuming that's because the air is dryer.
pictures below... not the finished product, lots of wet sanding to do to rid of the tiny orange peel.and the god forsaken RUN! i didn't notice it until I re-turned the tank around. at least clear coat runs can be easily fixed.
edit; sorry for the massive pictures... lol I did resize them by half!
also explaining the walker a bit - its dedicated to Paul Walker [my grand father, not the movie star] who actually was the only person at the time who loaned me the money to buy my first motorcycle. sadly a year later, he passed away, and I never got to repay him like I had planned onto. I was going to put paul. but people are closed minded folks and will assume it has something to do with the Hollywood star, and ask me tons of questions about it. I personally don't mind answering "what bike is it" but when you have a whole slum of questions flying at you, when all you wanna do is go home and make dinner... its best to avoid.
the lettering isn't perfect. I just used regular 1 inch 3m painters masking tape. a printer, and a razor blade. to cut out a "stencil" per-say. and before that, I just polished the metal some to give it a shine, left some scratches in it because that's what gives it character? [because I was too lazy to finish it off, and will just call it character...]
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Mate that looks good! Love the personalised touch on the tank and that's a great story to have attached to it :thumb:
Quote from: peteGS on January 26, 2015, 12:22:51 PM
Mate that looks good! Love the personalised touch on the tank and that's a great story to have attached to it :thumb:
thanks.. well I sanded the spot with 600 grit, and because of its placement and my noobyness. I hit the color coat, and not all of the clear drip came out.. so I laid up another coat of clear. will let this cure for 3 days. and off to the vinyl shop to get some cool custom stickers to cover up all the "oopsys" lmao
Here is my bikes USB charging system.. The board came out of an old [and I mean old...] car phone charger. the female USB end came off a computer I pulled apart. and the blue and red wiring came from a toaster oven, also pulled apart. [because the original wiring was super short] the little metal box its in, well I made that out of one of the flat pieces I saved from that toaster oven. still got to make a lid to seal it all off, but it works!
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Good stuff, very handy! I have to do something at some point for my GoPro as well...
well since it will be hidden, I just wrapped the lid for it, in DUCT tape. lol
and say good by to the red patchy rear-sets!
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AND HELLO DARK GREEN.
I gotta go buy more clear coat and some color coat for the rims soon.
color dried. clear sprayed.
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much happier with this. then the screaming red.... :icon_mrgreen:
Nice, that will certainly suit her much better!!
still got to paint the front fender. and get a rear fender on. but everything is coming together slowly... I was hoping to of been done by now. its a bit discouraging, but I have nothing more to do, other then move forward.
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One thing I learnt with my 450... whenever you think you will be done, you won't... my aim was on the road for her 30th birthday in 2011 but I missed that by a month and a half, still got her done before Christmas of the same year :thumb:
Keep at it mate, you'll get there!
Quote from: peteGS on January 31, 2015, 01:22:03 PM
One thing I learnt with my 450... whenever you think you will be done, you won't... my aim was on the road for her 30th birthday in 2011 but I missed that by a month and a half, still got her done before Christmas of the same year :thumb:
Keep at it mate, you'll get there!
yeah just sourcing the parts is becoming the hard part. I mean I got the basic stuff down.. I also HAD the stock "e" headlight mounts the silver parts... but I have NO IDEA where they went!!
also I had an idea for building a rear-fairing/cover for the side of the seat.
since my side fairings are cracked and im never planning on using them, I personally hate the way Suzuki does their fairings, I more of a CBR fan.. I Think im gonna cut them up, and use them as rear fairings.
So while waiting for my brake stuff to come in. I decided to pull apart the rear caliper to see what it looked like...
now I know why the rear rotor looked like so.
SERIOUSLY. the problem with the GS being seen as a beginners bike, is people don't own them long enough to do basic maintenance. when something goes wrong they just sell it...
HOW COULD SOMEONE LET THE REAR BRAKES GET THIS BAD. there is NO PAD left!
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i think you might need a new one...
i used these guys on my Hyosung and had no issues
http://www.d2moto.com/1989-2010-Suzuki-GS500-Rear-Brake-Rotor-Disc_p_3141.html
just use the promocode D2M2008 you get 10% off i think or was it 15% off? can't remember
Quote from: GS500Schultz on February 08, 2015, 08:54:00 PM
i think you might need a new one...
i used these guys on my Hyosung and had no issues
http://www.d2moto.com/1989-2010-Suzuki-GS500-Rear-Brake-Rotor-Disc_p_3141.html
just use the promocode D2M2008 you get 10% off i think or was it 15% off? can't remember
Lol! I already ordered a rotor + pads + chain sprocket from them, because of the 15% off. it should be in tomorrow or sometime, I ordered from them before my bike bandit order on Saturday. I think it was around the 1st or 2nd of feb.
And why isn't there any cheap company's out there making stainless steel throttle tubes? I might have to get into the business... just realized my plastic one is kinda cracked towards the end of the tube. AFTER I placed the order on bikebandit.
also for the OEM clutch lever [20 bucks later..] I'm going to make myself a master mold of it, so I can cast myself a few new ones if I drop the bike later on... 20 bucks is crazy, but I didn't wanna source the non OEM parts, like new clutch perch and such. or get levers that fit, but most of them don't have a slot for the safety sensor. even though almost every bike I've owned so far, I've bypassed that sensor. :icon_mrgreen: :icon_lol: It's there for a reason? [at least thats what I keep telling myself to justify my laziness and the 20 dollar level.]
I've ordered all the same things for my bike
but these are my rotors
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261698998299
ooooh I like the look of those 8)
those front rotors are sexy. :icon_eek:
but mine seem to actually be NEW from the PO... :icon_rolleyes:
so I only wanted to replace the rear. before I bought the rear rotor, I made sure to check the material, the one from D2 ARE stainless steel in material, that means I can run HH rear pads without a worry of them eating the rotors alive.
waiting for mail to come is the worst part, more so then paying for the stuff... :icon_razz: :icon_rolleyes: :icon_twisted:
Quote from: J_Walker on February 09, 2015, 03:28:51 PM
those front rotors are sexy. :icon_eek:
but mine seem to actually be NEW from the PO... :icon_rolleyes:
so I only wanted to replace the rear. before I bought the rear rotor, I made sure to check the material, the one from D2 ARE stainless steel in material, that means I can run HH rear pads without a worry of them eating the rotors alive.
waiting for mail to come is the worst part, more so then paying for the stuff... :icon_razz: :icon_rolleyes: :icon_twisted:
I know what you mean. The rotors I ordered are also stainless so my HH pads with a 6 piston caliper should be okay... OOPS just gave away my next project lol
Yea i'm going to have brackets made for the Busa/zzr600 front 6 piston caliper to bolt onto the stock GS fork leg. After replacing my forks I can confirm the 1st gen caliper and 2nd gen GS500e/f calipers bolt on with no mods.
meaning the 6 piston bracket will bolt onto any year GS500!
is it normal for the front sprocket to have some play??? back and forth, not side to side. not the toothed part, basically sliding back and forth between the shaft and little clip.
Quote from: GS500Schultz on February 11, 2015, 11:08:50 AM
Quote from: J_Walker on February 09, 2015, 03:28:51 PM
those front rotors are sexy. :icon_eek:
but mine seem to actually be NEW from the PO... :icon_rolleyes:
so I only wanted to replace the rear. before I bought the rear rotor, I made sure to check the material, the one from D2 ARE stainless steel in material, that means I can run HH rear pads without a worry of them eating the rotors alive.
I thought I replied to this yesterday...
6 pistons... MAN you REALLY wanna stop.
waiting for mail to come is the worst part, more so then paying for the stuff... :icon_razz: :icon_rolleyes: :icon_twisted:
I know what you mean. The rotors I ordered are also stainless so my HH pads with a 6 piston caliper should be okay... OOPS just gave away my next project lol
Yea i'm going to have brackets made for the Busa/zzr600 front 6 piston caliper to bolt onto the stock GS fork leg. After replacing my forks I can confirm the 1st gen caliper and 2nd gen GS500e/f calipers bolt on with no mods.
meaning the 6 piston bracket will bolt onto any year GS500!
ALRIGHTY THEN!
today I got it moving and stopping...
stopping Good, moving not so much.
while fiddling around to get it to go Stock exhaust, main jets are a tad higher from the P/O noting too bad. running no airbox/filter because I was in my drive way and I noticed one of my fuel lines was a tad too short to fit the airbox back in.... so and here's what I got to deal with...... :technical:
My choke cable tugs on the choke a little when fully locked to the right.
Right carb backfires, FLAMING CARBS.
the petcock leaks from what I think is around the switch area... pretty good flow leak too, also a bunch of sludge came out of it. lucky for me, I now have clear fuel lines and the sludge got stuck at the bottom of the line.
The carbs also leak... From that stupid plastic T-connector
My idle hangs a tad bit.. oh and the idle screw does NOTHING. :icon_mrgreen:
oh and little misfire pops in the exhaust too.
edit; I also just pulled the plugs, left side looks okay, and the right side is slightly leaner. but not so lean that it would explain the backfires... I'm gonna relate this to the weird idle..
but it moved..... years later... it moved on its own power..... :flipoff: :bowdown:
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Still it's good progress!!!!
The leaks can be fixed, as for the idle... it's either way too lean on the pilot or needle or you have an intake air leak... my guess is intake leak :thumb:
Quote from: peteGS on February 20, 2015, 01:49:31 PM
my guess is intake leak :thumb:
is that a knock at my lack of air-box/air filter? :icon_lol:
its not the carbs that worry me really, its that petcock... because that's one dem "it breaks, u screwed. get a new one!" kind of things... lol I thought I was pretty much DONE using the postal service on this machine. GUESS NOT.
Hahaha no in fact I must've missed reading you didn't have anything there... that would explain it though ;)
I bit the bullet on the 450 and just bought a new fuel tap, hasn't caused me any grief over 3 years later...
Quote from: peteGS on February 21, 2015, 01:30:44 PM
Hahaha no in fact I must've missed reading you didn't have anything there... that would explain it though ;)
I bit the bullet on the 450 and just bought a new fuel tap, hasn't caused me any grief over 3 years later...
I cracked open the petcock today. the design of the thing is just silly... and I found the problem child. hopefully i can find a fix.
got it running smoother today.
had to adjust the float levels a tad. still need some tweaking. but my idle is correct and the two sides seem to be really well balanced.
also fixed both of the leaks... how long the fixes will hold? who knows..
original rim color has been changed... WONDER WHAT COLOR THEY ARE BEING PAINTED.... :icon_eek:
:whisper:*maybe its fluro pink...*
Naw I think you went with koolaid orange!
Quote from: Janx101 on March 17, 2015, 09:23:36 PM
Naw I think you went with koolaid orange!
I couldn't wait! the paint is still tacky some what, but had to peel the tape off to see what it turned out to look like! not bad! kinda thinking I should of just stayed with yellow.. ill see when it goes on the bike. one red up front, one yellow out back? :D
Plus I still need to clean up some of the red paint that got under the tape... hard to make straight tape, round... lol And of course fit a new tire on there and get rid of these old dry rotted ones... and polish the rims!
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Hmm yeah. .. looks good! ... but. . Its missing a 'zing' ... maybe coat the central rib in white? To outline the red a little.... or... either use much brighter red/basecoat it in white first to lift the red you have?
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Hmm yeah. .. looks good! ... but. . Its missing a 'zing' ... maybe coat the central rib in white? To outline the red a little.... or... either use much brighter red/basecoat it in white first to lift the red you have?
reds a really hard color to work with... im not sure what it's missing, I know what you're talking about, because once I took the tape off I wasn't like "YEAH!" I mean its a good paintjob, thats mostly what im happy about. but idk the color with the polished aluminum. I thought the dark red would be better with the polished rims then the yellow..
ERM worse comes to worse, I can just re-do it. plus I have to do one tire at a time, so its not like I did them both... lol
What was the base colour that you sprayed onto? .. if it's dark it will show thru unless you coat it more... paint man told me that when I was doing walls in a cabin
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What was the base colour that you sprayed onto? .. if it's dark it will show thru unless you coat it more... paint man told me that when I was doing walls in a cabin
I left the black on the rims, because when I do red colors, I like them to be "deeper" and more rich, normally I use black primer. as with blues. its got 3 coats, and I can't physically see any the black showing through. so I'm happyish. lol the black was missing in spots so theres some bare metal areas.
Basically my thought is, if I want a different color, I'll do it when I get new tires. and the tires are dismounted.
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The front fender im gonna chop up a bit, thats why it's not the green the tank is... and the rear section, is a freakin mess. but it will be green as well and that's it for the green.
now im starting to know why I abandoned the GS500 in the first place... they are wonky bikes. IVE WORKED WITH THE GS's CARBS BEFORE. WTH why won't they just be nice and tune themselves perfectly...
GS carbs = 5 days to get right
SV650 carbs = 5 minutes.
CBR600 carbs = 15 minutes
TL1000 = 30 minutes...
its like you take the carbs off, adjust the one side. and all the sudden THE OTHER SIDE IS WRONG NOW?! WTH.
No idea what's involved .. But isn't there a synch process to do?
... you know, finding a new tail light that will look good is harder then it seems.....
Problem I'm having here, is brightness, I need something REALLY bright while traveling down a local road, that has terrible drivers, in the mornings, with the sun IN FRONT OF Me. that means the guy behind me is blinded too. and he doesn't have a tinted visor!
lots of eBay lights are FILLED with skulls [srsly, skulls are tacky....] or they are strangely pointy.... Go forbid we make ROUND tail lights any more?!
also turn signals. [while not actually required in my state..] I would also like bright ones.
of course, its not about how bright your signals are, but WHERE they are... I've learned, that putting turn signals upfront near your headlight, is a big no-no because they're hard to see. [must be why the DOT has that "silly" 5" rule. lol.]
Sounds like a job for an add-on modulator also!
Quote from: J_Walker on March 20, 2015, 04:41:54 PM
now im starting to know why I abandoned the GS500 in the first place... they are wonky bikes. IVE WORKED WITH THE GS's CARBS BEFORE. WTH why won't they just be nice and tune themselves perfectly...
GS carbs = 5 days to get right
SV650 carbs = 5 minutes.
CBR600 carbs = 15 minutes
TL1000 = 30 minutes...
its like you take the carbs off, adjust the one side. and all the sudden THE OTHER SIDE IS WRONG NOW?! WTH.
Whaaaa ... no V twin will ever make it to my list of "easier than a GS" on anything.
You're doing something wrong ...
Unique to a GS - even compared to other bikes that use the same carbs - the pilot jet change. Its the only bike I know that reacts favorably to that. Other than that and the fact that most jetting guides are written for 4 cyl bikes - there is no real big issue - IMHO -
What is the exact issue ?
I am no mechanic really, I see a CBR600 and I cringe ... and when someone shows up with one of those for me to work on - I pretend I dont speak english. FZR600/yzf 600 same thing. What a POS. One fool round here has a chromed and stretched and slammed ... and his friend has a CBR with the same crap. I pretty much run and hide when those 2 call.
Cool.
Buddha.
Quote from: The Buddha on April 06, 2015, 05:22:56 AM
Quote from: J_Walker on March 20, 2015, 04:41:54 PM
now im starting to know why I abandoned the GS500 in the first place... they are wonky bikes. IVE WORKED WITH THE GS's CARBS BEFORE. WTH why won't they just be nice and tune themselves perfectly...
GS carbs = 5 days to get right
SV650 carbs = 5 minutes.
CBR600 carbs = 15 minutes
TL1000 = 30 minutes...
its like you take the carbs off, adjust the one side. and all the sudden THE OTHER SIDE IS WRONG NOW?! WTH.
Whaaaa ... no V twin will ever make it to my list of "easier than a GS" on anything.
You're doing something wrong ...
Unique to a GS - even compared to other bikes that use the same carbs - the pilot jet change. Its the only bike I know that reacts favorably to that. Other than that and the fact that most jetting guides are written for 4 cyl bikes - there is no real big issue - IMHO -
What is the exact issue ?
I am no mechanic really, I see a CBR600 and I cringe ... and when someone shows up with one of those for me to work on - I pretend I dont speak english. FZR600/yzf 600 same thing. What a POS. One fool round here has a chromed and stretched and slammed ... and his friend has a CBR with the same crap. I pretty much run and hide when those 2 call.
Cool.
Buddha.
Since I posted that, I've decided to rebuild the carbs and all its fixings.. and up jet it a slight tad. [easier to run leaner, then it is to run richer] they need it, 12k almost 13k miles on the bike, and it's sat a for a few years.. the gaskets for the bowls are in like 3 pieces now.. lol
One question though, adding a washer to the float needle, does that allow more fuel? or airflow? that thing always confuses the heck out of me.
I believe you're thinking of the wrong needle.....I don't think it's even possible to add a washer to the float needle.
Now the needle in the carbs slide on the other hand - adding a washer there will raise the needle up ever so slightly, allowing more fuel into the engine.
Quote from: Big Rich on April 06, 2015, 04:28:03 PM
I believe you're thinking of the wrong needle.....I don't think it's even possible to add a washer to the float needle.
Now the needle in the carbs slide on the other hand - adding a washer there will raise the needle up ever so slightly, allowing more fuel into the engine.
sorry I was thinking the right needle, said the wrong name, yup that needle. lol
So I've been doing a lot of stuff to the bike. and haven't been taking many pictures.. well I'm taking them, just not uploading them. :2guns:
so here's a set from today, Chopped the front fender up. but I also added a little "mud" flap out of a old bucket. I gotta hit it with a little heat and form it a little bit, but that's it, its done. just needs paint.
[also this 1000kb max for photos... :technical:]
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are these new website ad's everywhere a virus on my computer, or is everyone getting them @ has something to do with the site being down?
edit; nvm it was me, SOMEONE installed some google chrome extensions that were ad-spam.
I get some bloody gambling ads thru tapatalk on here now!
Quote from: Janx101 on April 09, 2015, 03:11:19 PM
I get some bloody gambling ads thru tapatalk on here now!
yah ad blocker wasn't blocking them, so I went digging.. :technical: idk where they came from, I asked people who used my computer. weird. they were not here until I opened up this site.
my bike as today, hopefully I can get that rear tire prepped and painted tomorrow. :woohoo: :icon_mrgreen:
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Looking good man! .. how's that seat for comfort? .. hopefully good? .. cos it looks like a plank! ;) lol
Oh and the red wheels... I get it now! .. looked strange when just the wheel... but on the bike. .. sweeet! .. gives it that Airborne Ranger touch!
Quote from: Janx101 on April 09, 2015, 08:55:20 PM
Looking good man! .. how's that seat for comfort? .. hopefully good? .. cos it looks like a plank! ;) lol
it is a plank, a plank of topgrade red oak plywood. lmao
No, but I used REALLY good foam. :icon_twisted: Yoga mat! so far on my tiny 33 miles I've put on it since the engine rebuild. it's been really nice, It actually gets nicer once it's been sitting in the sun, and is warmed up! but while it is fancy cut up yoga mat... I did a bit of research on how to make a perfect seat. basically its setup so the bones in your bottom, are making as little contact as possible. so basically your hip bone, and your tail bone have different layers of foam from the rest. offering maximus support! Also I'm not done with getting the seat level and attached... but I got some dense rubber grommets that will go under the plywood between the frame. for even more "bounce" lol
We will see come the end of the summer, 600 mile trip on this baby! [one way..]
I may re-do the seat.. I dunno yet, its a bit wide upfront for my inseam. :/ its not so bad when you're just sitting on it, but when you're getting on, or touching the pavement, it kinda makes you spread a little.. lol :icon_rolleyes:
I'm also in the market for some waterproof saddle bags, and I think I might do one of those DIY backpack racks that some of the guys do over on the adventure forum.
Basically a vertical rack on the back, that you just slide the straps of a backpack over and call it good!
oh and a tank bag!
oh and when you chop the front fender. lots of the guys who have. forget to tell you, not to chop too much of the sides off... because when you do, it gets stupid flimsy...
Dropped 11 bucks on some fleabay level tail lights, I couldn't find what I was looking for. hopefully they look decent enough and are bright enough... worse comes to worse, I'll take it apart and stuff some more red LED's in there. lol
here's how it sits as of yesterday.
I do have a taillight for it. but my fleabay special really stuck it to me. It has 2 little cracks in the lens, even though it doesn't make a difference from afar, I know they're there. and the freaking LEDs inside are CRAP!! :nono:
that's what I get for paying 11 bucks.
oh and on top of everything. the F***ing plate the tag mounts too. yeah, the holes... to far inside.
this is a commieforina based company [even though the light was made in china] you would think they could get the holes for mounting your tag to it, correct...
debating if I want to fight for a return and refund...
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got the seat latch mech all mocked up today. I just now have to move the latch male piece that's under the seat. I either get to pull the staples and re-drill the holes for the existing bolts I have on there now. or take my chances and use a really large but stout wood screw and just drill it into the plywood... :dunno_black:
either way, hopefully I can stop using a piece of cord and wood to hold the seat into place tomorrow.
Got the brake light installed and mounted.. actually came out better then I Originally thought. and its pointed at MOST drivers eyes, tested with a few cars.. :thumb:
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Here's what it looks like off and on the bike. 8)
and if anyone has ever been reading this an wondering what the hell that long threaded rod is for on the back of the bike... they're for future custom saddle bags. I just have to get a plastic container strong enough and the right size, and sew up some canvas to make some bags. :thumb:
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ordered a battery today that will actually fit the battery box. :woohoo: 58 dollars for a battery. had to do it over the phone too. she said that they can get it shipped out today and hopefully be here early next week. because a GS battery is a "special" order. GSs aren't common any more?
Still no battery. :dunno_black: >:( really annoyed with the place I ordered it from, everytime I call them "It should be in today, we will call you." never calls. what in the actual f :police: :police: :police: I could of ordered one online and had it here by now.
Shouldnt be a special battery, I never had a problem getting one at autozone or battery warehouse off the shelf.
As far as the carbs are concerned, if you cant get it idleing right, or it stalls when cold or upon pulling the clutch, check your valve lash. Trust me on that one.
Quote from: W201028 on May 09, 2015, 06:18:16 PM
Shouldnt be a special battery, I never had a problem getting one at autozone or battery warehouse off the shelf.
As far as the carbs are concerned, if you cant get it idleing right, or it stalls when cold or upon pulling the clutch, check your valve lash. Trust me on that one.
valves are new and in spec whole engine is... the carbs aren't. they need re-doing. but I messed with them a little and got it a lot better. now I get my front end to float at 5k rpm in 2nd. and my leak stopped for now. just need a battery its all tagged up and lit up. I just need mirrors/blinkers/tires. and a carb refresh in the near future.
hahaha my leak started today. carb refresh coming sooner then expected. man its weird when the GS runs on 1 cylinder. :cheers: so now once again, it sits disassembled waiting for a part. I'm all for amazon drones if it means I can cheaply get small parts to me in 24 hours. I think some websites processing is just straight up slow..
Oh and I bought a helmet today. :D ;)
You gotta update us! Any new pics to share? :D
Quote from: ShowBizWolf on March 17, 2017, 10:55:42 PM
You gotta update us! Any new pics to share? :D
no new pictures.. it looks worse then it did when I last started. currently helping my parents renovate their house, so everything will have to wait until the summer or late spring. but I have more resources to welding equipment so my whole sub frame is getting the chop and rebuilt, also building a cage for engine protection. I'm rebuilding my seat setup too, needs to be more comfy, sourcing the foam is actually the hardest/most expensive part...
I still have plans for wrapping the exhaust down the side of the bike, instead of under it. I have some concerns about possibly over heating the cylinders though. I also think If I go this route, it will be not Y piped to a single outlet, but just having two small mufflers out the back/sides, but this has me wondering about exhaust harmonics, and how it would affect performance of the engine, and whether or not I should somehow X pipe it under the seat somewhere... but still have two pipes.. dunno yet. lots of planning for the whole exhaust thing.
and one last thing I've been thinking about for the past couple of days... and I've measured it out on how I'd do it too and it might just work.. but doing a custom aluminum fuel cell. around 7.4 gallons. if I can get the tune on the bike correctly and hit that 50MPG [not a far fetch want for a stock engine] but even at 42MPG Ill be able to hit my 300 miles on a single tank. of course the tank itself won't be pretty and will be bare minimum. straight flat sides, and then I would create a custom fiberglass mold to represent a gas tank.. something a bit more "retro" like a Norton. an doing a custom tank would allow me to add a real good fuel float, to gauge the fuel level.
besides that I've been watching craiglist like a hawk for a cheap used but in good condition windscreen off a Harley.. I don't wanna drop 140-230 dollars on a new one, just to have to chop it up and drill holes in it an generally waste money because nobody is gonna buy a BIG :cheers: Windscreen that fits on a GS500f..
I think I need to stop saying im going for a scrambler look, and come up with my own style/look. Ultra Utilitarian look. ?? UUL? lmao
Cool beans :thumb: Yeah name it what you like and build it how you want!! The dual muffler/exhaust is an awesome idea, I like it.
What kind of windscreen/how big are you watching for? My GS came to me with a Hellfire or Spitfire clear windscreen (that I didn't want and gave back to the PO for her new bike) and it fit nice. Maybe you could fine one of those for cheap on CL or even ebay? They might be more numerous/cheaper than an actual Harley one. :dunno_black:
When I did the search some did come up on ebay.. and you know how helpful that website can be, suggesting other listings as well..!! and I saw one that says Hell Cat that looks pretty neat
Quote from: ShowBizWolf on March 18, 2017, 08:40:55 AM
Cool beans :thumb: Yeah name it what you like and build it how you want!! The dual muffler/exhaust is an awesome idea, I like it.
What kind of windscreen/how big are you watching for? My GS came to me with a Hellfire or Spitfire clear windscreen (that I didn't want and gave back to the PO for her new bike) and it fit nice. Maybe you could fine one of those for cheap on CL or even ebay? They might be more numerous/cheaper than an actual Harley one. :dunno_black:
When I did the search some did come up on ebay.. and you know how helpful that website can be, suggesting other listings as well..!! and I saw one that says Hell Cat that looks pretty neat
pretty big tbh, I need it I think like 34 inches tall.. I'm talking full size, proper windscreen. ill give it a different search. idk paying lots of money for clear plastic.. rustles my jimmies.
I completely agree with you there!!