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Started by Gofer, October 11, 2004, 05:10:03 PM

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Gofer

What size and brand of radial sport tires will fit safely(and give good handling) on the GS?

i've read through Pantablo's site(recommended read for anybody who wants to know anything about the GS) and picked up some info from there, but it's just not quite enough specific info about brands and all.

werase643

110 front and 140 rear will keep you safe and happy

brand.....your call

i prefer sticky B-stones

if you run tru the pits at the WERA GNF( atlanta race this week)
you can probably get race take-offs for $50-75 a set
want Iain's money to support my butt in kens shop

juggernaught

I'm not sure if they were radials but i had Pirelli Sport Demons on my GS and was very happy with the performance...especially in the rain.  My 2 cents. ;)
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aplitz


BK

Quote from: aplitzAvon AV45/46 110/150

I was also wondering about what size rear my rim could take.  Did you do a rim swap or can you use the stock GS rear to fit on a 150?

Stephen072774

Quote from: aplitzAvon AV45/46 110/150

I love my avons, but I got the 140
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Gofer

Werase--what kind of B'stones? BT010? 020?  :dunno:

treybrad

BT45's are the forum fav...

trey

gs500rider

will the 140 fit with no problem.  I currently have 130 on the back, I want to change it!  2004 gs500f.

sblandin68

I have a 150 on the rear. Stock rim. Handles and rides great!

cajrovd

Is there any contact on the sides of the 150? Any mods required to fit a 150?
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PITBULL

I am also wanting a larger tire in the rear of my GS500f   bout burned through the stock tire with just a little over 3500 miles on them also want something that is going to last a little longer.

john

I still like Bridgestone BT45 in stock 110/130 sizes.
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pantablo

Quote from: gs500riderwill the 140 fit with no problem.  I currently have 130 on the back, I want to change it!  2004 gs500f.

Yes.
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Quote from: makenzie71 on August 21, 2006, 09:47:40 PM...not like normal sex, either...like sex with chicks.

pantablo

Quote from: sblandin68I have a 150 on the rear. Stock rim. Handles and rides great!

Your tire must still be very new. I had a 150/60 Michelin Pilot Sport on my 2001 gs500 and in the beginning it was awesome. Very sticky. As the tire wears that part at the edge that doesnt make contact with the ground at full lean will sharpen to a knife edge well before the tire is at the end of its life.

It starts to "fall into" corners more and more, eventually scaring the crap out of me when mine did it. I ran out and immediately purchased a 140/80 and preferred it overall. Got the Avons and was very pleased with them.
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Quote from: makenzie71 on August 21, 2006, 09:47:40 PM...not like normal sex, either...like sex with chicks.

pantablo

Quote from: cajrovdIs there any contact on the sides of the 150? Any mods required to fit a 150?

You mean clearance issues, dont you? Keeping in mind that every tire manufacturer's 150 is slightly different, if you get a 150/60 it'll fit without clearance issues. My Michelin Pilot Sport 150/60 cleared the chain and brake stay arm by a quite a few mm.

I dont recommend a 150 on the stock rim though. It pinches the tire so that you end up with a smaller contact patch of rubber on the road (less traction-I could more easily lock up the rear wheel for example) and the edges of the tire can't contact the road at full lean. Read my post above for what happens next.

People (including me) want a bigger tire to look better but even with a 150 the bike and tire look dinky sitting next to a sportbike. Want a bigger tire? Buy a bigger bike. My RR has a 180/55 rear.

The GS handles best with stock or near stock size tires. I suggest the Diablo's or the BT45's in 130/70, 140/70 or 140/80 sizes...nothing bigger.
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Quote from: makenzie71 on August 21, 2006, 09:47:40 PM...not like normal sex, either...like sex with chicks.

GSRider

I still don't understand why people want a larger rear tire; the smaller the better to corner with.

I am on my third set of tires now (All 110/130's) and I think things are getting better with every new tire purchase I do.

The stock Exedras were garbage. I got rid of them as soon as I possibly could.
Next, I tried the BT-45's, but I didn't like how quickly and NOTICEABLE the tire wore on the center portion. When I tried to lean the bike, it felt like the bloody tire had to go over a huge bump. Not a comfortable feeling when you're going at a "sporty" pace.
I have put the Metzler 330/550 earlier this year. Love them. Absolutely amazing grip, even wear, and great grip in the rain. The only thing I don't like about them is that my front tire has no chicken strips at all, yet my rear is still showing about a 1/4 inch of unsed tire. I rather it be the other way around...but I guess no tire is perfect.

Maybe next year, I'll try Pirelli's  ;)
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gsJack

Quote from: GoferWhat size and brand of radial sport tires will fit safely(and give good handling) on the GS?.................but it's just not quite enough specific info about brands and all.

To answer the original question, there are no radial sport tires sold in this country that properly fit the GS500 that I'm aware of.  Tires like the Mich Pilot Sport and Metz Sportec are available in a 150/60 size that will physically fit the GS and it's rims, but they are not recommended for our 3.5" rear rim because the resulting tire profile is not satisfactory in the tire mfg opinion.  Pablo relates his experiences with the 150/60 Pilot Sport above.

There are however some very good sport touring tires available for our GS's.  For the 92 and 93 seasons, I put the Metz 110/70 Z4 and 130/80 Z2 tires on my 97 GS and found them both better handling and longer wearing than previous bias tires I used.  Got about 14k miles out of the rear Z2.  For the current 04 season, I put the Avon 110/80 and 140/80 AV45/46 tires on my 02 GS and like them better than the Metz's for all around handling.  Very good in the wet.  I've got about 10k miles on them now and looks like they will wear at least as long as the Metz radials.

I'm in complete agreement with both John and GSRider about the OEM 110/70 and 130/70 sizes being best for handling in the twisties for the GS500, but there are no sport touring radials available in these sizes.  I will probably stick with 110/70 or 110/80 front and 140/80 rear sport touring radials as long as I can.  The 140/80 rear raises the rear about 3/4" and my progressing arthritis makes me want to go back to a 130/70 to lower the rear a bit.  Might just try a link change to lower it instead next year.

GSRider>>>  Next, I tried the BT-45's, but I didn't like how quickly and NOTICEABLE the tire wore on the center portion.  <<<

Similar to my experience GSRider.  I replaced the OEM tires on the 97 GS with BT45s and got about 9500 miles out of the rear.  A second BT45 rear I put on later after picking up the pace considerably was more than half worn by actual measure in 2k miles when I put on the Metz radials.  Still riding 15-20k miles a year, I have to consider tire life along with handling when choosing tires.  I have yet to try the Metz 330/550, Perilli Demon, or Avon AM51/52 bias ply tires, but I expect they would be much better than previous bias tires.  Great strides have been made in tire compounds in recently years.

Any idea yet what kind of tire life you will get from the ME330/550 tires in OEM sizes GSRider?

sprint_9

Im getting a Bandit wheel in a few days and am either going to buy Avon AM51/52 tires or I'm going to bite the bullet and get a nice set of radials.  The Avons cost around 120 for both tires, which is very nice.  I dont know what radials I would get, probley Metzler's Z4 or thier new Z6, I would like Avon AM45/46 combo put the price is a little to high for me.  Im not sure how tight funds will be since Im restoring my GS, If I was going to keep the stock wheel I would probley go with a Pirelli Sport Demon 140/70, just my 2 cents

Mat

Quote from: GSRiderI have put the Metzler 330/550 earlier this year. Love them. Absolutely amazing grip, even wear, and great grip in the rain.

the sport demons are even better
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