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Frame Sliders?

Started by vegasda9, July 16, 2004, 05:58:28 AM

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vegasda9

Sorry if this is a repeat, but didn't really find anything by doing a search. Who makes frame sliders for our Gs's and will they fit on a F model? Any pics? Thanks for your help!

tdan553527

Check this site, they do have them, but some cutting of the fairing on an 04 would probably be neccesary.

http://www.whaccessories.com/GS500Accessories.htm
Shane
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davipu

frame sliders will NOT work on a GS the motor sticks out too far from the frame.

MstrsLilBrat

Quote from: davipuframe sliders will NOT work on a GS the motor sticks out too far from the frame.

Are u talking about for 500F?

I have a frame slider from Wild Hair. It helps my bike a lot when I went down.  ;)
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davipu

yeah I was, in the pic it looks like it only sticks out about a half inch past the motor.  maybe you can take some better pictures that show the relationship between the slider and the edge of the motor.

vegasda9

Yes! I'm talking about the 500F, if you have pictures, please post them! I haven't dropped my bike (luckily!) but I would like to get them just in case I do...(I think it's just a matter of time)...Also, from the Wild Hair site, which slider did you get?

Thanks!

southjerzriderz

You can get more info here...

http://www.amcmotorcycles.com.au/contents/en-uk/d139.html

or here

http://www.metisse.de/deutsch/stupads.html

http://www.metisse.de/

But...it doesn't look like one is made for the GS500F yet.  

I wonder if you could use a GSXR 600 frame slider and replace the bolt above the "S" in the side fairing...gonna have to look closer at this.  Not sure where that bolt goes into (sitting at work right now).

Scott
"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally broke and worn out, shouting...'Holy shaZam!...what a ride!'"

Edsel

2004 Black GS500F

southjerzriderz

Thanks.  Do you know what those are bolting into?  I assume, since it is so high, it is not the engine mount.  Just the frame?

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I just contacted these guys.  I'll let you know what I find out. They may be able to suggest one they have that will suit the purpose.  They even have a "how to" section.

http://www.inturace.com

http://www.inturace.com/Tutorial/FS1.htm

Scott
"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally broke and worn out, shouting...'Holy shaZam!...what a ride!'"

southjerzriderz

Ok...I've done some more research here and I think I know why no one is making frame sliders for the GS500F...not that it can't be done.  But, not as easily or as usefull/practical as other models.

The truly strongest mounting points are obviously on the frame.  In the photos below, they are either the engine mount bolts or the bolts that hold the small radiator behind the fairing (see fs1.jpg and fs2.jpg below).

http://www.southjerzriderz.com/misc/fs1.jpg

http://www.southjerzriderz.com/misc/fs2.jpg

That would place them somewhere near the red dots on the following photo:

http://www.southjerzriderz.com/misc/fs3.jpg

From the first set of photos, you can see that the 'engine mount' solution would make the frame slider EXTREMELY long to get through the fairing and do any good for protecting the fairings.  You would also have to drill out your fairing to fit the entire slider through it.

Same with the second set of photos...and those bolts are at angles to begin.

The "fairing protectors" that were described and advertised for the GS500F made by Mark Venhorst that go in the bolt above the "S" go into the metal bracket used to mount the fairing.  In my opinion, and his, this would pretty much do nothing in a crash at speed, but bend the bracket and break the fairing.  They were intented for a fall over type of accident.  Albiet...better than nothing.

To be honest...I think the best bet would be to have someone fabricate (i.e. lathe) metal frame sliders for the two "red dot" mount points I have illustrated above.  These would give the best body protection.  The lower could actually thread onto the exposed ends of the engine mount bolts (much like "riding/stunt pegs" on a kids bicycle)  the upper could be mounted at an angle if necessary (it is only a slight angle).

The ones from Metisse for the GS500E MAY work for the lower ones...IF they are long enough to stick through the fairing far enough to be effective.  Does anyone have these?  Can you measure the length from engine mount to end of slider?

Thoughts?
Scott
"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally broke and worn out, shouting...'Holy shaZam!...what a ride!'"

southjerzriderz

Update...the Matisse crash protectors are 115mm long (about 4.5") so they should be able to extend about 1.5" past the fairing if a hole is cut through.  I think I may order a set and test it out.  Has anyone mounted these on a 2004 GS500F yet?

Scott
"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally broke and worn out, shouting...'Holy shaZam!...what a ride!'"

jusAgs

i actually bought a frame "protector" from ebay made for a r1 i believe. it fits on the small allen screw top of the fairing. works great! dropped my bike recently and the only thing scratched was my bar-ends and a little of the engine cover. nothing major. none of the fairings were scratch

2xs

I will help settle this.  I am ordering both...the "Fairing Protectors" and the Metisse Frame Protectors for my 2004 GS500F.

I plan to put the fairing protectors up top for the slow speed need and then mount (and cut through the fairing) for the Metisse "Polished Strada" slides.  As I said before, they should extend about 1.5" past the fairing hopefully.

If that doesn't work, I will at least have a model (from the Metisse) to have custom one's turned on a lathe that will extend further through the fairing.

I'll update here once everything is installed.

Scott
Scott
2XS
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2xs

Update:  I got the Venhorst fairing protectors and installed them today (uploaded a pic to the Wall of Fame).  Yes, they attached to the fairing mount and not the frame.  The quality though of the protector is good.  It would definitely help protect the fairings from scratches, etc. on a fall or slow-speed crash.  I plan to get the Matisse ones sometime after Christmas too for added crash protection.  I'll send another update then.
Scott
2XS
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"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally broke and worn out, shouting...'Holy shaZam!...what a ride!'"

The Buddha

I have a plan for the 04's ... since Scott seems to have dropped the idea ...
I'll get some 1/4 by 1 inch steel flat bar ... drill a hole in it and bend it into a multi step U shape ... OK Will look positively disgusting but Like any other design is gonna look pretty ... You bolt it in the top engine mount bolt using the long bolt I will include ... and it will sit outside the fairing OK then bolt a pretty looking shiny some or other to it and cover it up... Advantage - No sawing off a fist sized hole in the fairing ...
Cool.
Srinath.
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The Buddha

OK 04 guys ... please make these measurements if you can ... I'll crank out some prototypes in the next week ... have steel will bend ...
The room between the fairing and the frame at the point where the top front motor mount is ... and OK right side only ... left we dont need no steenkin left... OK OK prototype for right first ... then left ... OK OK send me left too then ... and the distance from the bolt hole to the front lip of fairing .... and the actual fairing thickness and if there is a curled lip that will be the thickness ... cos I have to clear that as well ...
Cool.
Srinath.
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2xs

Srinath:

I haven't dropped the idea completely.  Still need that bolt from you too.  I am going to try the Metisse and use them as a "model" if they don't work.

What measurements are exactly are you looking for?  Is it from the bolt in this picture to the fairing?

http://www.southjerzriderz.com/misc/fs1.jpg

If so, it is about 3" from the bolt tip to the fairing.  See my post about the 4.5" Matisse ones extending about 1.5" past the fairing if a hole is drilled most likely.

Scott
Scott
2XS
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The Buddha

OK that is the bolt and coo thanks for the dimensions ... see making it from flat bar steel ... and bending it around the fairing makes for a fairing that you dont have to drill through ... Lemme see ... time to annoy the dealer some ... but going down there and measuring up the bike ...
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The Buddha

Hey Scott OK if you are working on it ... I'll skip for now ... but making it out of steel flat bar albeit mangling and bending and twisting it into a freaking pretzel is gonna be arm busting ... has one advantage ... no hole in fairing ... I'll wait for you to do your thing ...
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2xs

Just as an FYI...the Matisse proposition...doing it through use of an elongated engine mount bolt and then cutting throught the fairing doesn't seem really far fetched.  Check out the solution for the Honda RC51...looks similar...

http://www.inturace.com/prdifs1.htm
Scott
2XS
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