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Frame Sliders?

Started by vegasda9, July 16, 2004, 05:58:28 AM

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dgyver

Please do not bend a bracket for the sliders. It will cause more damage to the fairings in a slide than you think. Cutting a hole in the fairing is pretty easy to do. The first time can be scary but no big deal after doing 5 or 6 bikes.

Sliders are not tough to make, I have made them for the SV. I still have about 4 feet of 1-1/2" diameter material to make more. Plus it is easy enough to get more. I just do not have any bolts long enough to install them. Guess I could make my own bolts out of round bar stock.
Common sense in not very common.

2xs

I am definitely going to try the long bolt/cut fairing method using the Matisse kit.  But, if they aren't quite long enough, I might have to take your approach and get one's made that will use the Matisse bolt.  Unless I can get one of the longer engine bolts from Srinath.
Scott
2XS
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The Buddha

Scott ... I'll send you the bolt back wiht the pipe ... now the idea I have been kicking about it this ...
Take steel flat bar ... and bend it so that it runs very close to the engine everywhere except at that point where the round alternator and ignition covers are ... there it will stick out a inch 0r inch and a 1/2 and pretty much go back in close to the motor and the end plates will get welded on ... its like case savers made with flat bar instead of pipe ... and I belive I can make 3/8th inch thick and 1 1/2 inch wide piece and fit it comfortably ... and here is the cool part ... we can put a bolt in the middle right above the covers ... and fit a round rod delrin piece there ... case savers and frame sliders all wihtout drilling ... been kicking this idea around for the last week ... I might get laser cutting people to make the whole thing ... including bending ... if I had the numbers ... making for 1 piece wihtout welds ... super strong ... and pretty much will take a good sized crash ... cos they are also case guards ...
Cool.
Srinath.
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2xs

Very cool regarding the bolt and the pipe.  In terms of your 'flat bar' case.  This is for non-F models right?  Or are you thinking of one that will also go outside the fairing on F models?
Scott
2XS
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The Buddha

I believe I have enough room to do it on a F as well ... 3/8th thick steel should be easy to stuff in there  ... there is over 1/2 inch of room at the closest location ... I am still talking to the laser cutting people ... they need a cardboard cut out with holes and bends etc ... now I have to get that made most likely next week and drop it off ... they dont use 3/8th thick plate that often, so I might have to wait a bit for them to make them ... I am thinking of sneaking in a 3 point mount that bolts to the front ... like kerry has suggested ... let me make somehitng and I'll show you. Of course You can bolt a chunk of delrin to the case saver and make it a slider ... I am also thinking of powdercoating it silver to blend with the newer motor. Lets see how it shapes up.
Cool.
Srinath.
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2xs

Sounds interesting.  Can't wait to see it.
Scott
2XS
//www.2xsrc.com

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"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally broke and worn out, shouting...'Holy shaZam!...what a ride!'"

The Buddha

Yea working on it ... you still pushing that idea of frame sliders around ... What I actually feel is that frame sliders are too freaking $$$ at $60+ ... I believe my case guards with the chunk of delrin would be right about that ...
3 pointer ones ... maybe 15-20 more ... far better ... why do the damn things cost that much, its got 25 cents of delrin in it ... and a freaking bolt and a hole for that bolt ... sheesh ... Anyway Lets see next week ... should get some traction under it.
Cool.
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2xs

Yup.  May actually order them this week.  The part that makes me the most nervous is drilling the holes in the fairing.  But, once I get the Matisse ones...I am definitely going to measure to make sure they will stick out far enough before drilling holes.
Scott
2XS
//www.2xsrc.com

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"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally broke and worn out, shouting...'Holy shaZam!...what a ride!'"

The Buddha

Hey Scott,
I thought you were making them ... if you're buyng it and basically stuffing something made for another bike in the thing ... I'll make them next week and show you. Then decide if you want to even buy it ...
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Srinath.
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2xs

I was going to do the following:

1\ Buy the Matisse and see if they fit (Strada version)

if not

2\ Use the bolt from you and have a set lathed.
Scott
2XS
//www.2xsrc.com

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"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally broke and worn out, shouting...'Holy shaZam!...what a ride!'"

The Buddha

OK the DIY version will not need a lathe ...  You get a delrin rod of the diameter (about 1.5 inch) you want, drill a 3/8th hole through the center with a drill press and then drill all but ~ 1/2 inch of the depth with a 5/8th drill and maybe finish it with a 5/8th end mill ... all of whihc are useable with a drill press. Machining that is a total waste of time and money. Now the same idea can be extrapolated to the case guards... the delrin rod of similar diamater but shorter length can be bolted to the case guard ... The main idea with that is ... you get extra safety height ... as in if you drop it ... the plastic isn't 1 inch off the ground, its like 2 inches or 2.5 inches off, and ofcourse drop it at speed and it will slide ... and that dissipates energy well.
Cool.
Srinath.
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2xs

Very cool, re: the delrin rod.  But, when I spoke of machining, I meant an aluminum slider like the Matisse Strada.  But, the delrin sounds easier.
Scott
2XS
//www.2xsrc.com

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"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally broke and worn out, shouting...'Holy shaZam!...what a ride!'"

The Buddha

Aluminum also should be drilled and cut with a drill and a saw ... lathe is over kill again. Now I prefer Delrin ... reason being ... its oily to touch and while its strong ... its not as strong as aluminum ... but it will slide easier and Heck I think its going to stand up to the fall better, especially in my design. Aluminum is going to be too hard, take more impact and transmit all of that to the case protector, whihc now id more likely to bend and bang up your cases anyway ... but then again I guess if you crash hard enough that you mangle up 3/8th thick, 1.5 inch + wide steel ... banged up engine cases are a best case scenario ... could be a whole lot worse. Anyway Let me work on it. I'll het y'all back when I have somehting to show.
Cool.
Srinath.
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Superman55

Just found this post.
srinath-have u or 2xs come up with a set of sliders yet?
I have been trying to measure up with sliders at local shops but havent seen any worth buying and cutting and finding they dont work> Thanks guys.

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