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steel braided brake lines

Started by Frost, February 16, 2005, 02:56:32 PM

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Frost

anyone have any experience with them?
I can get 3 for $125CDN...is that a good deal?

do i need it on a GS?...will it be significantly better?
i only ride street...and sometimes agressively in twisties...

worth the investment?
wileyco, K&N pod, rejet 22.5/65/147.5, F16 flyscreen, progressive springs, 15t front sprocket...more to come: katana shock

goat

Why do you need 3? Would that be 1 for the front, 1 for the rear (caliper to cylinder) and the other for rear resivoir to the cylinder?

I bought a ss line from spiegler (~$60US i think for just the front, but I don't remember exactly. ill check once I get home), but I haven't put it on yet so I can't tell you how it changed the feel of the bike from personal experience.

I was told that a ss line will help decrease the amount of pressure that you need to put on the brake lever to stop the bike. It will make a difference on the front, but I imagine that it won't be the end all be all of bike mods.

I got it because I needed to replace my brake lines anyways and it isn't too much more expensive than the rubber suzuki lines are. I figure for the front, its worth $15-20 extra, but I don't think that its worth it for the rear.
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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Frost

comes in package of 3...

but these are not DOT approved...it's from a guy who makes them...should i trust it...or maybe i should just buy 1 front from a name brand to save money and be more reliable?
wileyco, K&N pod, rejet 22.5/65/147.5, F16 flyscreen, progressive springs, 15t front sprocket...more to come: katana shock

goat

Personally, I want to be damn sure that I'm going to be able to stop every time.

Are brake lines somewhere you want to be cutting corners? I'd buy the one name-brand one and keep the rest rubber. ~70% of your stopping power comes from the front brake anyways
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
      - Ben Franklin

tkm433

Quote from: Frostanyone have any experience with them?
I can get 3 for $125CDN...is that a good deal?

do i need it on a GS?...will it be significantly better?
i only ride street...and sometimes agressively in twisties...

worth the investment?

My person view is that you only need them for the front and with the GS500 having only a single front brake you should be able to find a stainless steel or kevlar line for less than $50.  

As for not being DOT approved it could be due to the use of alloy ends and not steel.  

For everyday use go with a stainless or kevlar line with steel ends and you will never have to worry about them again.

Again my person view you will never need the stainless line on the rear since for road use your front brake is the one that does most of your braking and the rear with a stainless steel line would become even more likely to make the rear brakes more sensitive to lock-up.

goat

This is the company that I bought my line from.

They list the GS line at $59.95US, and I think it was like $5-10US for shipping. I don't seem able to find the reciept at the moment, though so I'm not completely sure.
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
      - Ben Franklin

cummuterguy

I've actually heard of guys deliberately letting a bit of air in their rear brake system, simply because they felt it was too stiff. (stupid idea in my opinion, since that lets moisture in too)

the point is, though, it probably wouldn't be an 'improvement' to put the steel braided lines in the rear.
2000 GS500E  progressive front springs/03Katana Rear shock, Emgo headlight fairing, Vance & Hines ignition advancer, K&N 'lunchbox' filter, DIY re-jet,  Srinath fork brace, Yoshimura exhaust, Bandit 400 hugger

dgyver

Replacing the stock rubber lines is the first thing I do to any bike. There is a major difference in feel and control. Look around for some cheaper. I picked up (off of ebay) a brand new front set of Fastline braided lines for a TLR for $10 but they are going on one of my track bikes. Brake lines are pretty much the same between bikes, just different lengths and maybe slightly different angles on the ends.

Here is a good read about brake lines:

Brake Line Facts and Fiction
Common sense in not very common.

Frost

what are the recommanded brands?
is DOT approved important?...or are they all the same

what length do i need for the GS
wileyco, K&N pod, rejet 22.5/65/147.5, F16 flyscreen, progressive springs, 15t front sprocket...more to come: katana shock

dgyver

Goodridge, Fastline, Speigler, Galfer and Russell are several of the better manufacturers that I can recall.

Someone else will need to post the length required.
Common sense in not very common.

The Buddha

Quote from: tkm433
Quote from: Frostanyone have any experience with them?
I can get 3 for $125CDN...is that a good deal?

do i need it on a GS?...will it be significantly better?
i only ride street...and sometimes agressively in twisties...

worth the investment?

My person view is that you only need them for the front and with the GS500 having only a single front brake you should be able to find a stainless steel or kevlar line for less than $50.  

As for not being DOT approved it could be due to the use of alloy ends and not steel.  

For everyday use go with a stainless or kevlar line with steel ends and you will never have to worry about them again.

Again my person view you will never need the stainless line on the rear since for road use your front brake is the one that does most of your braking and the rear with a stainless steel line would become even more likely to make the rear brakes more sensitive to lock-up.

Wowee ... This might be a first ... I totally agree ...
The Dot thing I dont know about ... but I prefer to bolt a line together and I use Steel or stainless steel fittings over brass or other ... The galfer fittings are Usually brass I think .. I like galfer line and use earl's fittings ... of course being in nascar country earl's fittings are found on the side of the road like pebbles around here ...  :lol:
Cool.
Srinath.
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