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Started by Anonymous, March 05, 2005, 11:15:26 AM

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cernunos

I'll tell ya where Ed is...he's probably out ridin' that beautiful new Sportster. Gotta get them break-in miles in ya know. (envy envy) Love the GS500 and I love this forum.

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Anonymous

Where did you get your information?  Children are eligible for SS disability benefits.  People over 18 and under 24 only need to have worked enough for 4 credits (VERY part time) to qualify.  Follow this link:  http://ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/ssa.cfg/php/enduser/std_alp.php?p_sid=wxRiDRzh&p_lva=1139&p_li=&p_page=1&p_cat_lvl1=&p_cat_lvl2=&p_search_text=disability+benefits&p_new_search=1&p_search_type=search_nl  There are answers to a lot of questions there.

I'm trying to tell you that it is EASY to get free money in this country if you don't want to work.  Get a "disability lawyer" and 80% are approved.  Tell your friend.  If I didn't have morals I'd sign up too.

Nobody dies in the street because they refuse to work in America!  Nobody.  And there are a LOT of people who don't work.

You can't argue that...

cernunos

Lawyers do not obtain disability for you. Lawyers do nothing but get all the info together from your doctors, etc. Also, just because a doctor says you cannot work does not get you disability. You also have to see government doctors. So, whether you have morals or not is not the question, it is whether all the doctors you see have morals you see? Nice to see you can go to a site and read. Now get out there amongst the people and see. I didn't go look up a bunch of stuff on the net to "prove a point". I've been through this with my uncle and my friend both. It is no cake-walk...no matter what you have read. I also have an aquaintance who is a judge for disability. He says that the Clinton administration changed a lot of the wording and stiffened requirements such that now it is virtually impossible to meet the disability requirements unless over 50 years of age. And from what I have personally seen, with mine own eye-balls, that appears to be true. But I still love the GS and the twin forum.

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Anonymous

Getting touchy are we?  You were wrong.  Earlier I was too and I admitted it.

I'm done with this...  It was about why illegals are bad for our country and it's been twisted into "it's impossible to get SSI disability".

Oh, and a good lawyer (as much as I despise them) CAN do wonders if you can afford them.

The Buddha

You know who is also affected ... like on both sides by illegal immigration ...
Legal Immigrants ... Most people assume they also are illegal, and they get culture backlash ... Nothing to add than what's been said ... heck i didn't even read much of it.
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that reminds me this question I always ask to those claiming to be pro-legal immigrants...

on the streets, how can you tell a legal latin american from an illegal one?

short answer: you can't  :icon_mrgreen: so you treat them all the same, as illegals (lmao)  :laugh:

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Quote from: makenzie71 on August 21, 2006, 09:47:40 PM...not like normal sex, either...like sex with chicks.

makenzie71

not that anyone cares what I think...or that I really care what any of you think...but, personally, I like my local illegal immigrants.  They work like real men...for the work's worth.  They're honest, they're friendly, they feed me, they take care of their shaZam!, they're happy to be here every day they're here.  The "born here's" in my area are all asshat dickwads who'd steal the shirt off you're back given a fraction of a chance...they all think they're thugs and pimps and they have no respect for anything...at all.

Good example...my neighbor (we'll call him Jaun) is from Mexico City and never gained legal status, but his daughter (we'll call her Jill) was born here (I think that mandates legal status but hell if I know).  Her boyfriend (we'll call him cockhead) was born here.  When Jaun comes to my house...or anyone's house...he pulls into the drive, gets out of the car, walks to the door, knocks lightly or rings the bell, and waits patiently.  When Cockhead comes to get Jill he pulls into the drive and starts laying on the f%$king horn until Jill comes out.  Jill thinks this is appropriate behavior and that Jaun is a faggot.

I rest my case.

sinner

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This is my first post in this forum. I've been lurking for a while (a month or so), and wasn't planning on posting anything until I actually buy my GS500F, which will be happening next year in April. I couldn't pass up this thread, though.  :)

I hope that what I post here does not offend anybody. It is just my point of view on this particular subject. No more, no less.

Illegal immigrants enter the U.S. illegally this week, next week they get caught and deported. Pretty soon, they are back. If they get caught and deported again, they come back again. And so on and so forth.

Direct deportation of illegal immigrants is not and has never been the answer. The illegal immigration issue will never be resolved that way.

If somebody wishes to live and work in the U.S. illegally, I say that the U.S. government should allow them to do so. In fact, I'll even go as far as to say that the U.S. government should actually go out of their way to make sure the illegal immigrants have a nice warm, dry place to live and plenty of work to occupy their time with.

I propose that the U.S. government build a number of very large factory prisons. Yes, factory prisons. Just for the illegal immigrants. Staff these prisons with U.S. citizens as this will help alleviate unemployment.

The first time an illegal immigrant is caught, he or she gets an automatic sentence of 12 months at hard labor. Off to the factory prison he/ she goes. Do not pass begin. Do not collect any money under the table. No court. No judge. Just a one way ticket to your new home and job, courtesy of Uncle Sam.

The second offense is three years. The third and each and every offence thereafter gets five years. These sentences should be mandatory. No need to take the illegal immigrant to court. The law makes the arrest, runs prints, the record comes back and the appropriate sentence is automatically put into effect.

As to what the illegal immigrants do at the factory prison, well, that one is real simple. They manufacture goods for both the domestic and foreign markets. In demand, high quality goods.

The work the illegal immigrant does pays for their food, accommodation and any medical treatment they may require. The illegal does not get paid for his or her labors. If they work, they eat well and earn privileges within the prison system. If they don't work, they lay in solitary confinement and eat slop.

Prisoners work 12 hours a day. Not 8 hours. Make them earn their keep.

At the end of whichever sentence they serve for entering the U.S. illegally, the illegal immigrant gets deported back to his or her country of origin with the princely sum of $100.00 in their pocket.

If it is the illegal immigrant's first offense, they will be handed an application packet for a green card, which they can fill out and hand to the prison authorities for submission to the U.S.C.I.S. Whether or not the application is approved will be up to the U.S.C.I.S. This will be part of the prison reward system, and will show the illegal immigrant that it is possible to do things the right way.

The first offenders who do actually get their green card applications approved must first complete their sentences before they are released into society. After all, illegal entry into the U.S. is still breaking the law.

If the illegal immigrant is a multiple offender, they lose the privilege of being able to apply for a green card permanently.

Not only will the immigration prisons become self-sustaining, but they will eventually be able contribute to the Federal budget.

Catch and release does not work and is a huge waste of time and resources. The scheme I've outlined here might work. Then again, it might not.
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sinner

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Oh, and how have I offended you, Tad? And just what would I be searching for exactly? Immigration related articles?

Well, guess what, I'm fairly aware of what goes on in the immigration world as it relates to the U.S. I've been running the U.S.C.I.S green card gauntlet for the past seven years. Yes, I am a legal immigrant.

I might add that most of the employees of the U.S.C.I.S. come across as being on the same intellectual level as somebody who types in caps and loves saying "SEARCH NOOB!".
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Quote from: sinner on September 21, 2006, 02:11:00 AM
Oh, and how have I offended you, Tad? And just what would I be searching for exactly? Immigration related articles?

Well, guess what, I'm fairly aware of what goes on in the immigration world as it relates to the U.S. I've been running the U.S.C.I.S green card gauntlet for the past seven years. Yes, I am a legal immigrant.

I might add that most of the employees of the U.S.C.I.S. come across as being on the same intellectual level as somebody who types in caps and loves saying "SEARCH NOOB!".

That's just Eric, he was joking. Don't get too flustered.

As to your idea, it actually sounds fairly intriguing. The cafeteria food could be equivalent to school cafeteria food (which isn't really all that bad), accomodations could be something equivalent to a dorm room: two beds, a sink, maybe a bookshelf, and a toilet with a curtain around it.

Unfortunately I think there are a few snags in your idea that would have to be resolved. I think by international customs we are required to send the alien back to his/her country as their government would probably be pretty pissed if we imprisoned one of their citizens without so much as a trial. For example, here in Texas we have a lot of Mexican immigrants. If we could get the Mexican government to cooperate with us on this effort a lot of political BS would be smoothed out much faster.
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