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Started by John Bates, March 04, 2005, 06:37:14 PM

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airbrush

yup...thats the concept drawing for it..its done ...i'll post some pics of it up soon.
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Blueknyt

i was thinking like differnt color back light then useing a really contrasting color placed literaly right under the numbers 1-6 so the numbers show up that odd color with each shift
Accelerate like your being chased, Corner like you mean it, Brake as if you life depends on it.
Ride Hard...or go home.

Its you Vs the pavement.....who wins today?

airbrush

okay...so who's makin up the circuit? where exactly is this supposed to hook into (the gear sensor? where's that?)...i could use just the circuit without the LED's...i'll probably do a custom install with them in my faceplate anyways...
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starwalt

Quote from: airbrushokay...so who's makin up the circuit? where exactly is this supposed to hook into (the gear sensor? where's that?)...i could use just the circuit without the LED's...i'll probably do a custom install with them in my faceplate anyways...

Not me! But I am trying to help. :)

This thread took off from a discussion involving the neutral indicator and John Bates getting a great deal on a GSXR gear position indicator on ebay. I guess he may eventually put together a write up.

The new 04+ GS has a similar gear position indicator, but not a gear display. The gear postition is now fed into the ignitor. The part description has changed and the ignitor is more along the lines of an ECU rather than just a condensor discharge type.
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John Bates

#64
Quote from: airbrush............ where exactly is this supposed to hook into (the gear sensor? where's that?).....................

The neutral switch is removed and the gear position indicator switch is mounted in it's place under the front sprocket cover. To get the cover off you first must remove the shift lever.  It's easy but messy.

The GS450/GN125 gear indicator (part# 37720-33200 or 37720-45100) is a drop-in replacement for the existing neutral switch It has seven wires. One for the neutral lamp and one for each of six gears 1 - 6. The single neutral wire can be spliced directly to the existing blue wire therefor utilizing the existing connector. A new cable assembly attached to a small display panel using six 12V bulbs or LEDs needs to be designed. It would be nice to have a brightness adjustment for day/night use.

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Prior owner of 1992 GS500E stock
Fairfield County, OH
USA

John Bates

#65
Here are some pics of my gear indicator.  I must say it works beautifully.  If anyone is interested in additional details just pm or email me.

   The LEDs and dimmer control are mounted between the spedo and rpm meter on a homemade bracket. The bracket is held in place at an existing screw location. The bracket and associated electrical parts can be unplugged from a nine pin connector for maintenance or future replacement with a digital indicator. The LEDs with clear lenses are actually amber when lit.

   I used a gear indicator switch that came from an 82 GN125. According to the microfiche it is part no. 37720-33200 which I understand is the same as 37720-45100. Both of these part no's were apparently used in the early eighties GS450. The switch is physically identical to the GS500 neutral switch. No spacer needed like on the GSXR gear position switch.

   Electrically it has six gear position contacts, each with its own dedicated wire. The six wires furnish ground to six LEDs. These six wires run to a six pin connector located under the seat, behind and to the left of the battery.  These six wires are then extended from the mating half of the six pin connector  (via a flexible plastic conduit) to a nine pin connector located at the bottom of the instrument housings. A homemade bracket fastens under the acorn nuts at the bottom of the instruments to mount the nine pin connector.
   The neutral contact has a separate wire terminating into a bullet connector which connects directly into the existing neutral (blue) wire.

   12V is supplied from the brown wire located inside the headlight housing. I wired it through the nine pin connector to a 470 ohm resistor and a 50K - 100K ohm (value, not critical) potentiometer (dimmer control) and from there to the anode (+) side of all the LEDs.

   The parts, except for the mounting brackets, are all readily available at your local electronics and auto parts stores.

edit: 50K - 100K read 10K.












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Prior owner of 1992 GS500E stock
Fairfield County, OH
USA

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seamax

That is awesome looking.  :o

How about making a few for us. I'll be your first customer.

stefman722

Can someone make us a gear indicator?I would love one. I rode with a guy yesturday that has a 1980 or 85 gs400 that has a gear indicator that was stock. Was nice. Anyways, whoever makes one, i will buy.  :thumb:
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John Bates

Quote from: seamax..................
How about making a few for us. I'll be your first customer.

I wish I could. Just don't have the time.  It took forever to do this one. And I would like to convert it to digital readout someday. :dunno:

I can supply dimensions for the brackets and a ckt schematic along with part numbers if anyone is interested.


:cheers:
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Bikes don't leak oil, they mark their territory.  (Joerg)
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2002 Harley Sportster XLH883 with V&H Straight Shots
Prior owner of 1992 GS500E stock
Fairfield County, OH
USA

jordanearl

looks like someone might have a part time job on their hands now, id be intrested in one of those if the price was right, as would a host of others id presume.
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jordanearl

damnit if i wasn't such a henpecker i woulda beat you.  is this something a shade tree electrician can do, or is it a bit more complicated
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John Bates

Quote from: jordanearl................is this something a shade tree electrician can do, or is it a bit more complicated

If you can make a decent solder connection (about 36 are required), apply some heatshrink tubing and handle a little metal cutting and drilling (two simple flat mounting brackets with a total of ten round holes and one square) you can do it. :thumb:

:cheers:
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Bikes don't leak oil, they mark their territory.  (Joerg)
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2002 Harley Sportster XLH883 with V&H Straight Shots
Prior owner of 1992 GS500E stock
Fairfield County, OH
USA

seamax

Quote from: John Bates
Quote from: jordanearl................is this something a shade tree electrician can do, or is it a bit more complicated

If you can make a decent solder connection (about 36 are required), apply some heatshrink tubing and handle a little metal cutting and drilling (two simple flat mounting brackets with a total of ten round holes and one square) you can do it. :thumb:

:cheers:

And how much will all this information cost me?  :)  j/k

John, I would love some instructions, schematics, diagrams, materials list, parts numbers, ect.

Please send it to seamax@mchsi.com

It probably will not look as nice as yours but hopefully it will function the same.  ;)

Jeppy

I want one if someone is going to make these for the GS owners. Put me on the list whoever is going to make these.

John Bates

Quote from: seamax..................
And how much will all this information cost me?  :)  j/k
Well............... lets see, how about an arm and a leg. I could use one more of each. :mrgreen:

Quote from: seamax
John, I would love some instructions, schematics, diagrams, materials list, parts numbers, ect.

I'll work something up and email to you.

Anybody else?  :thumb:

:cheers:
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Bikes don't leak oil, they mark their territory.  (Joerg)
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2002 Harley Sportster XLH883 with V&H Straight Shots
Prior owner of 1992 GS500E stock
Fairfield County, OH
USA

Blueknyt

i think the stock switches can be modified,  let me think on it abit.
Accelerate like your being chased, Corner like you mean it, Brake as if you life depends on it.
Ride Hard...or go home.

Its you Vs the pavement.....who wins today?

starwalt

A very nice solution John!  :thumb:

When I get done with Conan's Audioboss adapter project, I will put some time in on a digital option. If you still have the GSX indicator, I'll take it off your hands to play with. The 03+ GS gear position indicator may be similar in output though not physically (as you found it requiring a spacer).
-=Doug......   IT ≠ IQ.

God save us from LED turn signal mods!

Get an Ebay GS value  HERE.

1990 GS running, 1990 GS work-in-progress, 1990 basket case.
The trend here is entropy

werase643

i see we have the usual group of if it ain't to expensive i'd buy one.... :roll:


they make a universal shift indicator.... http://www.riderstation.com/DG8.php
but ya need a elec tach....

i talked to a friend.... he said he might come up with a 2 version package

1 instructions with all parts
and
2 ready to install with it's own sub harness and....1 wire hook up to bike

but ya know....people have day jobs....


the next idea would be....what are the masses willing to pay?????
this will determine if he wants to go with it
want Iain's money to support my butt in kens shop

stefman722

I would be willing to pay for one, aslong as it is well built for the price that he is offering. It all depends on quality.  ;)
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-V&H Exhaust
-K&N air filter
-15t & 14t sprockets
-Veypor MPI
-LP short stalk front signals
-Intergrated clear rear tail/signal lights
-Pirelli Sport Demons

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