Quote from: davipujust go steal the sign, and be like there was no sign......

now there is an idea

and as far as the driving shcool goes
i think you can only take it for 1-10 over and you have to go to court to ask the judge if you can take it

OK, its cool if you dont even wanna bother with my offer. However, simply fighting the ticket isnt the goal of submitting a written request. Most likely they will dismiss the ticket, simply because the ticketing also has to submit items in writing as well and will often times just let it go, in which case it will be dismissed. Also, if you were to send in photographs and diagrams and all of the requests for info MK1incali is correct, they will get fed up and dismiss it. If you want to ignore good info and get analy reamed for 300 whatever dollars be my guest. I just offered up the plate, its your choice to partake or not....

you can always go to court and roll the dice that the cop won't show up.  A common method is to get a court date, wait till soon before, and then reschedule.  PO's typically have set days for all their traffic cases, so if you get it rescheduled, you might get one of his days off--PO's hate togo to court on their days off (who can blame them).

You'll likely have to pay extra court costs if you go, he shows and you get  convicted, but at over $300, it's worth a try.  Of course, a case where he busted you going 60 on a bike in a 25 is likely to get the PO's attention, so he'll probably try hard to show up.

sucks anyway you slice it.  :dunno:

Quote from: DanielyOK, its cool if you dont even wanna bother with my offer. However, simply fighting the ticket isnt the goal of submitting a written request. Most likely they will dismiss the ticket, simply because the ticketing also has to submit items in writing as well and will often times just let it go, in which case it will be dismissed. Also, if you were to send in photographs and diagrams and all of the requests for info MK1incali is correct, they will get fed up and dismiss it. If you want to ignore good info and get analy reamed for 300 whatever dollars be my guest. I just offered up the plate, its your choice to partake or not....

im not ignoring your advice, and i do appreciate it, but i really find it hard to believe 60 in a 25 will be dismissed diagrams or not... coud you explain further?

OK, i do not mean they will dismiss every case regardless of the ticket.

WHat happens is you file a paper to take the trial by mail, i believe its a written declaration. When you do this you get not only an extension, but you get to fight yoru case via mail. Youc an send in diagrams, models, pictures, requests for the radar calibration and the last time the road was surveyed for speed. The main goal is to flood them with paper work and hope the cop doesnt reply as well. Since he has to submit his side of the story via mail also.

If they say, ok your still guilty you have to pay a fine and wahtever, you can then file an appeal via mail, or set up another court date.

Its up to you, almost ALL tickets from people i know that have done this (regardless of speed) have been dismissed. If you dont wanna try something thats free to you, and pay 300 + dollars go nuts, its your insurance..

Quote from: davipujust go steal the sign, and be like there was no sign......

haha, I've done that a few times, works good and makes the person who said there was a sign there look stupid. In Canada your first speeding ticket is like 2 "demerit"(don't know if I spelled that correctly) points to your record and can impose on you when going for your N or Class 5.
Now since we have the new law that instead of not being legally allowed to chase a person at speeds over 120km they are now not legally allowed to chase a person at all. They still might follow you for a couple minutes if your going slow but I just take off up a hill if im positive they didn't catch my plate.

04gs500f wrote:

Quoteim not ignoring your advice, and i do appreciate it, but i really find it hard to believe 60 in a 25 will be dismissed diagrams or not... coud you explain further?

this past fall i got charged with reckless driving, unsafe lane change, 95 in a 55, and failure to obey a traffic signal.  i got a lawyer, took it to court, and three months later was only convicted of a 4 point speeding violation.  this happened simply because my lawyer kept filing more motions and the da's office didn't keep up on their end of the paperwork by responding to the motions.  by the time my court date came, the da didn't have a case because he didn't do his homework.  if they tried to convict me of all the charges, my lawyer was going to claim that the da's office violated my constituational right to a fair trial by not responding to the motions.  
the bottom line is courts don't want to waste their time and money battling traffic violations.  probably if you simply show up to court it will be reduced.  every time i have shown up my ticket has been reduced, and i have an awful driving record.  off topic, i've finally stopped speeding :mrgreen:

Daniely's method is sound. the court system is already up to thier necks in paper work. its worth the little bit of effort on your part to keep it off of your insurance and driving record. Like he said, it might even take it going to an appeal but at somepoint they will no longer want the headache your causing and drop it. Really worth looking into.

just .02 from the FNG

Ok, thanks everyone

Daniely how do i go about starting this?

OK first your gonna wanna fill this form out:

http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/forms/fillable/tr205.pdf

Then get it filed at the court (via mail or just go in) BEFORE your court date. While filling in that form, include as many pieces of evidence as you can, fill that envolope FULL, draw diagrams, take pictures, use little bike models for the pictures do everything you can. Then you will recieve a letter int he mail if its eitehr dismissed or if you have to appear. If you have to appear file an appeal with the requests for the info ive listed above (the radar thing and the road being surveyed for speed). Then again, if your appeal is denied and you still have to show up, at least you tried, and you can possibly get traffic school (however you WERE doing 65 in a 25....so you may be SOL regardless.)

Again, its WORTH trying, some time on your part and some money for stamps or would you rather pay 300 bucks, ahve to take traffic school or worse? Your choice.

Jeez, I sure hope this thread isn't used as evidence by the prosecution.  Fairly daming stuff, this.  I'm outta here...

LOL

hey, he has admitted to doing 65 in the 25, not denying it. We are just tryin to help .

http://www.ticketassassin.com/

for help.

Daniely, you have overlooked the fact that 04gs500f lives and rides in Florida (according to his profile), not in CA.  I don't think he would get very far with the court if he turned in a CA state traffic pleading form.  In fact, he would just piss off the prosecutor and the judge.

Traffic laws are not uniform--in fact, more so than nearly any other area of the law, traffic laws differ greatly from state to state, as do the procedural ways to fight a ticket.  

In general, using a California law or procedural rule as a model for other jurisdictions is a mistake--CA has all kinds of wacky laws.

You need to find out what is allowed in FL ifyou want to fight it.  For something of this magnitude (the points are gonna KILL your insurance), you might want to talk to an attorney.  Find somebody who specializes in traffic cases.  They should quote you a flat rate and may offer a free initial consultation.  The insurance hit you're gonna take could end up costing you thousands of dollars over the next few years before the points drop off.

Good luck.

Quote from: The_good_guyhttp://www.ticketassassin.com/

for help.

Again, that site is only for CA.  Sure, some of the strategies may work elsewhere, but you can only know which ones will work if you know what procedural options are open to you in FL (or wherever you got the ticket).

Yup, sorry i missed the fact that you live in FL, sorry bro.

i really don't want to go into court, can i request traffic school by mail??

have yo stolen that sign yet?

call the clerk's office at the court in the jurisdiction where you got busted.  They will probably be able to help you figure out what forms, etc. you can send in

Maybe you should invest your money on a radar detector.  

Oh and plead no contest!!!!