It depends.  If you want to spend time in your garage fixing your own bike get carbs.  If you want your bike spend time at a shop and you pay for the fuel problem fixes get FI.

I rather have someone fix it and enjoy day to day niceties of FI.  If bike goes to shop I just have to drive one of the cages.  I am lucky to have a Z3, a 328, and a 993 to choose from.  Hey... there is always GS to drive as well.  I am so spoiled. :mrgreen: I need a bigger garage for a Ducati.

I need a garage period.  Mines in the parking structure of my apartment building (below the lobby).  Hey at least my bike has some friends when I'm not around

Quote from: LEVOIf you want to spend time in your garage fixing your own bike get carbs.  If you want your bike spend time at a shop and you pay for the fuel problem fixes get FI.

I've had three FI cars and never took a single one to a shop.  One of them I bought with a blown engine (my E30), and I was able to do all of the work myself with just a reasonably stocked garage (and a friend's air compressor and engine hoist).  Why should an FI bike be any different?

I'm not in the FI-is-great-I-will-never-own-a-carbed-bike-again camp, but neither am I in the carbs-are-great-you-can't-work-on-an-FI-bike camp.  I think FI is the way of the future - more power, cleaner from the emissions standpoint, more convenient, more efficient - but there are still some good carb packages I am happy to own in the meantime.

if the gs was fuel injected this forum probably wouldnt exist as we know it  :lol:

Quote from: weaselnozeif the gs was fuel injected this forum probably wouldnt exist as we know it  :lol:

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:

I guess Srinath would be out of some income as well.

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Yeah.. Suzuki test rode day was great for past 2 weekends in Toronto:

http://www.suzuki.ca/news/pdf/2005%20Corporate%20Demo%20Days.pdf

week before: I tried SV1000S and supermoto and
last week: GSXR600

I want to try out different cruiser too if possible.

For both sv1k and gixxer, don't know if it is the bike or me.. not getting used to shifting with high power bike... transmission were both pretty bad.  Sitting positing is better for sv1k compared to gixxer.. but I guess I am spoiled by GS straight up position... or it just take some time to get used to it.

oh.. taking gixxer to 13~14k rpm in 1st gear is quite an experience! very touchy throttle.. SV is louder and both curising around 5~6k rpm at 70~80km/hr were pretty smooth.

So true so true. Carburetors...I loved the simplicity of the Linkert on the early Panheads and even the Bendix on the '70s Shovelheads. The nice thing about carbs (or points ignition systems for that matter) is the ability to diagnose and repair while on the road (or off). But then carbs started becoming more and more complicated, losing some of their advantage; simplicity. Fuel injection can't be beat for consistent performance under all conditions of temperature, altitude, humidity, etc. Just gas and go. But, with all the electronics involved anymore it has made it more difficult to do the same on-the-road diagnostics and repairs we enjoyed in the '50s and '60s. Just goes to show...you can't have your pudding and eat it too. :lol: . Love the GS (small and meek), Washington (the state, although he was a good Pres I suppose), and this forum.

C........

I never had problems with my FI cars.  I think they are very reliable.  With an FI bike... I don't know yet.  At least I don't have to rejet them...

I still love this forum more than any other.  Go carbs...

I believe FI was incorporated because of the environmental laws.  Once a FI system is designed and programmed it will remain the same practically forever.  It all has to do with the clean air standards.  A carb can be "played with" and needs adjusting to keep the pollutants down.  It's all about the pollution.  A carb will almost always offer better performance.  Yes, a carb bike/car needs a warmup period and FI doesn't.

Quote from: joerockerA carb will almost always offer better performance.

I don't think I agree with that.  FI offers more precise control of mix.

Holy BJEEBUS

learning to ride a new motorcycle again is HARD.


Just got back from my first ride around the neighborhood.  This were my thoughts:

1. TORQUE
2. What's that squeaking sound.. Is it my helmet?  nope.....  hmmm.....    <slow to a stop>  <accelerate>  *chirp*   Ahhhhh.  Car alarms.  Damn this Yosh pipe is loud.   Might need to have some sound insulation put in somewhere in the future.
3. TORQUE
4. Am I going 50 already?   <apply brake>  am I going only 20 already?
5.  I feel like I'm a little wobbly, learning to ride again.
6.  The GS has bred some bad habits.  I'm heavy on the throttle, used to being lower to the ground.  Need more finese.
7.  I'm glad I started on the GS, and not a 650.
8.  Body positioning needs some work.  Squeeze those knees... my wrists will thank me.
9. TORQUE, and with it, ENGINE BRAKING.  That didn't really exist on the GS.
10.  I'm a little concerned.  I thought I'd pick up riding the new bike right away.  I'll need to be very careful tomorrow on my first long ride.


Worst thing about it.... its only a 650 you know?  Who are these idiots starting on litre bikes?  Maybe I'm just a wuss.

In the space of a city block, you can go from 0 to 60 and back to 0 again for the next light, and it feels like la-dee-da, no biggie.  It's nucking futs.  And it sounds... almost obscenely lovely.

I rode an FZR1000 a couple of weeks ago, just to say I've ridden a liter bike.  It actually felt fine; it had gobs of torque, but it didn't beg to be revved like the 650 does.  An R1?  Yeesh.  For better riders than me.  Not to mention taller!